If the rampageous daily onslaught of internet clickbait is to be believed, Everton have now 'withdrawn from the race' to sign Denzel Dumfries from PSV Eindhoven (assuming they were ever interested).
Everton were believed by many online sources to be looking for a ready-made right-back to step in behind Seamus Coleman, even though the Irish international and long-time Everton captain has extended his contract on the back of glowing admiration from Rafa Benitez. Dumfries seemed to fit the bill, his Dutch heritage aligning nicely with presumed connections to Everton's Director of Football, Marcel Brands.
But it seems Dumfries favours a move to Inter Milan, with Everton's efforts to sign him apparently hampered by limited funds and FFP rules. At least the Italians can provide Champions League football, which remains a dream well beyond Everton's current grasp.
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1 Posted 02/08/2021 at 15:41:20
2 Posted 02/08/2021 at 15:44:29
The waste of £30M on Iwobi, £20M on Sandro Ramirez, £25M on Tosun, and £20M on Walcott has come back to haunt us.
Even if Seamus lasts the season, he is still quite a bit short of his best.
3 Posted 02/08/2021 at 15:52:22
I also thought when Martinez was in charge and Baines got injured towards the end of the season, Luke Garbutt was his heir apparent.
So probably not….
4 Posted 02/08/2021 at 15:52:32
5 Posted 02/08/2021 at 16:01:23
6 Posted 02/08/2021 at 16:03:32
7 Posted 02/08/2021 at 16:14:19
In real terms, unless we sell, we have an incoming transfer embargo until some of these losers' contracts expire. No fucker's going to sign them. They're shit.
Ahh well, another season of shit. We might have a plucky season if we're lucky! Getting bored of supporting shite though!
I'd take Barry Horne over some of the wasters in our current midfield, and he was in the midfield when we narrowly escaped relegation!
Plus, relying on Kenny and Coleman for right-back is just fucking daft…
8 Posted 02/08/2021 at 16:23:04
Otherwise, with Coleman and Kenny, we are unfortunately effectively taking a step backwards. A player whose best days are behind him and one who will not make it at a top club challenging for honours.
9 Posted 02/08/2021 at 16:28:27
Hopefully we'll be able to shift some of the average players that could generate a decent fee: Mina, Gomes, Davies, Holgate...
If we could have signed Bailey, Dumfries and Koulibaly I think we'd have really pushed for Top 4. Without that level of quality, we'll be mid table again.
10 Posted 02/08/2021 at 16:59:13
11 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:06:02
I think we could possibly get around £10M maximum for Mason. Maybe off one of the promoted teams. Should anyone offer that amount, it's sell, sell for me.
12 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:18:38
13 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:22:01
We won't get much for Holgate; he would need to take a step down. Likewise Keane who we got mugged for by Burnley.
Sadly, our most sellable assets in defence are our best ones. Mina, Godfrey and Digne.
14 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:25:51
If you are including wages, you need to up the rest of those numbers, because even if including his wages over 4 years + fee, you get around £18M, ignoring anything recouped from his loans.
Better make Iwobi more like £43M if he sees out his contract. Walcott was more like £48M for his 4 years, including transfer fee. All in for Cenk, it's £33M.
Source: Alex Iwobi at Spotrac
15 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:34:30
16 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:49:26
Managers throwing other people's money away, we have just recruited the master.
17 Posted 02/08/2021 at 17:53:33
You can include Brands in your line-up for the execution squad. He chooses our players and has done for the past few seasons and should be held culpable.
Imagine what you could get for the money squandered on the fee and wages of Iwobi, Sigurdsson, Delph, Schneiderlin to name but a few. All crap by and large. Players who were past their prime when coming to us. Mis-managed from the very top.
It's clear this season that, in terms of Marquee players, we're signing nobody... and the likes of even Nuno Espirito could see we were brassic – hence us getting Rafa. A man who wanted the job on any terms – and so good luck to him is what I say; he's getting no financial help whatsoever because we've blown the gaff.
18 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:05:56
19 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:08:57
If we have to go into the season with the squad we have got now, it's going to be a very long and underwhelming season.
20 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:12:01
21 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:20:42
Andrew. Sadly we've been in worse places than we are now. It's not that bad and if we look forward, there is a lot to be positive about.
In 1998, we stayed up by 5 goals and a dodgy decision away to Bolton earlier in the season. No sign of a new stadium other than talk and we were in a desperate financial situation. We had a player like Gareth Farrelly as our ultimate saviour. Dark times.
Now right now, if some are to be believed, then yes we are having to play clever to adhere to FFP rules, but we and our owners aren't skint. And this is still a squad that almost qualified for Europe last season. On top of that, we have "spades in the ground" to build a magnificent stadium that will transform our club and city.
Much frustration at the way we've cocked up the last few seasons. But much to be optimistic about if you look forward. We may have to take a step back as a result of mismanagement, but in 2 or 3 years time, I'm confident we will have taken several forward. Onward Evertonians.
22 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:29:06
Karma's a bitch, Farhad. Maybe it's time to sell up to Boys Pen Bill for a fiver and sod off!! That was the Blue Buddha's intention all along.
23 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:30:07
24 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:36:21
Good going forward but weak defending imo.
25 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:48:15
Well, whether we sign him and get banned or don't sign him and don't qualify – it is the same thing.
26 Posted 02/08/2021 at 18:50:37
Always exciting rumours, then we do next to nothing or an 'Iwobi'.
27 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:12:42
28 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:13:30
Only Everton could bring in a billionaire (or two if some are to be believed), buy a load of absolute shite and then get hamstrung by some rule made up to maintain the disgusting status quo of the monied clubs (was it a £2m fine for ESL?). I also heard yesterday from a director at another club that one of the Sky 6 is practically bankrupt and theyre on an emergency loan. Believe what you will…
The club has been run so badly for the past 25 years its not true. Its unlikely well see anyone else come in now and I fully expect this dysfunctional rabble to be in a relegation fight given how well (once again) the clubs around us are recruiting. Nirvana it certainly isnt.
29 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:27:04
30 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:29:57
31 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:36:45
32 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:44:57
33 Posted 02/08/2021 at 19:45:00
A bigger priority is to sort the Kean situation out, get some money in and splash the cash get a player who can score some goals for us. Someone like Matheus Perreira who can bring goals, assists, and something different to our attacking play.
34 Posted 02/08/2021 at 20:28:13
35 Posted 02/08/2021 at 20:40:43
36 Posted 02/08/2021 at 20:43:05
I'm really struggling to see how we are as broke as the papers make out... With Usmanov's nephew being promoted to the board (and all the other ties), I thought it was all but confirmed that he has a bigger stake than we were led to believe!
The optimist in me thinks maybe we are using the narrative to lower the prices on some of our bigger targets!
37 Posted 02/08/2021 at 21:03:47
We might be lucky to get a few youngsters in with potential and on £20-30k a week and hope Benitez can craft a team out of them.
We really are done for re FFP – no easy way out. The big boys don't want their cream pie diluted by new boys on the block. Leicester have nearly done it twice recently but they've been well managed.
38 Posted 02/08/2021 at 21:07:30
The Kean situation is most likely holding everything up; I'd take £40M for him right now or we say "It's too late, you are with us until January, deal with it."
We can buy two players for that money.
39 Posted 02/08/2021 at 23:14:56
40 Posted 02/08/2021 at 23:35:29
Everton have been amateur-ish with player purchases and player management and the building of a solid spine to the team that would last years (or lack of) and this being all under Moshiri's reign. A raising of standards is definitely required; purchases with promise – not OAP seasoned professionals.
41 Posted 03/08/2021 at 00:47:48
The "youth" produced a perfectly competent right-back in Jonjoe Kenny.
Nathan Markelo and Kyle John are probably competent right-backs.
But "competent" won't do it if you want this club to play in the Champions League and challenge for silverware. We need star players, top players.
42 Posted 03/08/2021 at 01:07:38
43 Posted 03/08/2021 at 03:45:30
Doesn't FFP nominally exist to prevent clubs acting as Leeds and Portsmouth did? On the face of it, it is sensible regulation to stop clubs operating beyond their means but, in practise, it cements in place the current status quo.
If a club can't use the largesse of a benefactor to improve their squads, then they are left with attempting incremental growth through coaches improving the performance of the players they already have or by bringing in and developing youngsters with potential. That is fine in theory but incredibly difficult to achieve in practice because of the hit-and-miss nature of managers and coaches and youngsters still developing, and all the time you are still liable to lose your best players to the richer clubs.
To my mind, Leicester City are perhaps the only decent example (in this country) of a club changing their status since FFP was introduced. If you don't achieve that jump in standards in one go, then it seems likely clubs will have to spend some seasons recouping their losses before they can try to bridge the gap again.
Missing out on a relatively inexpensive ready-to-go player like Dumfries seems to put us back to square one as far as the right-back position goes.
44 Posted 03/08/2021 at 07:11:05
The team that finished 10th last season and is starting this one as a shambles. It's not a pretty scene right now.
45 Posted 03/08/2021 at 07:16:13
My Portuguese aint great but I think thats what it said.
46 Posted 03/08/2021 at 07:44:09
Most Blues seem to think we'll be playing a starting 14, trying to shoehorn a 3 pronged attack, 2 wingers with pace, a No 6, 8 and 10, 3 centre-backs and a couple of attacking full-backs. I'm afraid were going to have to sell a couple of regulars to finance a move for a full-back or more likely change the formation to one that fits our current squad.
Conte at Chelsea upset a few superstars and fans with his 3 at the back, 2 wing backs formation a few years ago, but the Premier League trophy sweetened the blow for many of their fans. If we do something similar, I wouldn't put it past Townsend doing the same job as Victor Moses did as a right-wingback.
47 Posted 03/08/2021 at 08:05:23
48 Posted 03/08/2021 at 08:06:32
Have the flexibility to mix it and change the formation. Both in terms of how you set up generally but then on the pitch when you have possession as opposed to when you don't.
Most teams will do that. Liverpool were a bit of a freak in that they were so predictable and you knew what was coming but it was difficult to combat. Man City; does anyone know if they even play a formation?!!!
49 Posted 03/08/2021 at 08:23:50
50 Posted 03/08/2021 at 08:36:51
In either system, Benitez is likely to play Digne on the left of course. As for the right flank – and a modern full-back should be capable of playing right-back or right-wingback – that includes all those recently linked like Dumfries, Aarons and Dalot.
At the moment, we have Coleman and Kenny. Iwobi can just about play right-wingback but not right-back. Holgate can just about play right-back but not right-wingback.
I suspect we will strengthen this position therefore... but we're probably waiting for selling clubs to show some desperation to sell (reducing the price), for players' preferred destinations to not work out (like Dumfries to Inter), and maybe some players to become available for loan (like Dalot).
This is very much the Moyes-era scenario. So it might go right to Deadline Day for us to complete our business.
51 Posted 03/08/2021 at 08:50:40
Seems to me like it's just Mendes gobbing off again, providing morsels for the rabid pack of clickbait hounds. I don't usually engage until it makes the pages of more reputable sources... but nothing is certain in this malarkey!
52 Posted 03/08/2021 at 09:11:05
53 Posted 03/08/2021 at 09:15:24
As with any formation, it comes down to having the right players and the right calibre of player. If you play 3-5-2 with the wrong wing backs or don't have a rapid covering defensive midfielder who can slot in when the wing back gallops forward, your flanks get exposed. The likes of Gueye could have done that well I think.
And, in the modern game, formations fluctuate during a game, let alone from game-to-game. Gone are the days when you pick your best 11 if fit and line up in a predictable 4-4-2 every week. Or try to make a 4-5-1 regardless (Moyes). It's a squad rotation game and that includes the formation. Hence the discussion elsewhere about James Rodriguez and the obsession he must play every week to prove his worth. Play the formation that suits the players available. Don't make the players available try to suit the formation you insist on wanting to play.
Kenny did actually play wing back for Schalke when I watched him there. He done okay, but he was a bit of a headless chicken. He took it as a licence to run forward; almost Forrest Gump style. Admirable you may say, but there were two problems with it. Firstly, he left the defence exposed and he got roasted by the centre backs. Kavak, who was on loan across the park last season in particular was not impressed with him in one game I watched. Secondly, he kept running into the space of the forwards trying to make diagonals, so his eagerness to get forward actually compressed the space. His reading of the situation wasn't great.
Shame about Jonjoe; I always had hope for him.
54 Posted 03/08/2021 at 09:33:12
My understanding of FFP is conceptual. Like many, I guess the concept and principle is well intended to ensure clubs live within their means. But on the flip side it seems it is there to preserve an elite club of clubs.
But like any walk of business, if a benefactor decides to invest, within reason, why should that be constrained?
I say within reason. Any industry or commercial vector is subject to governance and regulation and there is good reason for that. But it should never get to the point it stops startups from challenging the established elite or sleeping giants awakening to realise their potential.
Business is business and outside of the playing field, football is no different in my opinion. The "suits" in Switzerland and their Premier League / FA counterparts in London seem to enjoy dining at the table. They also seemingly like to choose who they dine with. Mainly whoever is buying dinner and the expensive wine.
1984 and George Orwell. All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others.
55 Posted 03/08/2021 at 12:56:17
The trouble is that unless a regulator is dissolved as soon as the objective it has been created for is met, it will inevitably be captured by the most powerful members of the industry it was set up to control.
The objectives of FFP were originally to improve competition and constrain the purchase of success. In fact, it has now become another method whereby the Shitty Six and their mates in Europe retain their stranglehold on the game by preventing any other clubs from spending as they do.
Uefa, the Premier League and the rest do not "represent" the game of football any more than the European Commission "represents" the interests of anyone apart from German and French oligarchs, or the current US government represents anything but the interest of the technology monopolists, or the BBC "represents" anything but an arrogant but intellectually unimpressive clique from England's increasingly poor self-styled "elite" universities.
56 Posted 03/08/2021 at 13:37:40
57 Posted 03/08/2021 at 13:55:04
As one of those described above as a pontificator relating to FFP my take on it is a very simplistic one, Income minus expenditure equals either profit or loss, if the losses accrued over a 3 year period exceed £105m on average, a club incurs the wrath of the governing body, with possible sanctions to follow. Certain expenditure doesn't count in relation to FFP, so building a new stand, stadium is exempt from the calculations.
Everton's problem lies with its commercial revenue stream, we've had 20 years of very little income from sponsors, etc when compared to our rivals whilst the monied clubs are backed by large internationally known corporations, therefore, the rich clubs are unlikely to be loss-making to the same extent as a club like ours. Similar to a poker player the player with the biggest pot to spend at the start of the game, will likely end up in a better position than a player who has a small stash, to begin with.
Many of the 'elite' clubs don't like the fact that Manchester City has attempted to circumvent the rules, claiming that City is merely putting wealth in the club via the backdoor and City saying it is legitimate commercial income enabling the Manchester club to spend huge amounts on transfers and wages.
58 Posted 03/08/2021 at 14:36:50
It would be quite simple for say the chairman to say my company USM agree to sponsor the shirts for £500m per year. Problem solved. But that is clearly £10m for the shirts and £490m as an investment by an company linked to the club which is restricted under FFP. It could be that £10m is for the private box and a meal in the Alex Young Suite, but again is that the true value of a few soggy roast potatoes.
The rules are geared to getting joe public from all places between Alaska and Auckland to buy stuff to provide the income. What would be an interesting question. Instead of £60 a shirt we only charged £30. Would we get many more people between Auckland and Alaska buying our shirt because it is cheaper and actually have a bigger gross income? One for the marketing guys.
59 Posted 03/08/2021 at 14:58:32
There are many ways in which this club can capitalise on existing and growing markets but just like the players we have (James apart), there is no outstanding marketing dept to take advantage.
60 Posted 03/08/2021 at 15:01:36
It's not the sale of football stuff that provides the bulk of the income for the chosen few, although they do make a lot more than Everton in that respect, rather it's the deals they do with household brands that provide them with loadsa dosh. Look at the adverts featuring Chelsea since they became European Champions, they help to promote the club and sell the product that the sponsors want the public to buy.
It really is a catch-22, become successful, which will attract better commercial deals, helps to put finance in place for new players, which helps the club to remain successful in the case of Chelsea and the like. For clubs like us, unsuccessful, scrabble around for significant sponsorship, unable to purchase the very best players, have to sell the assets to refresh the squad every few years, remain unsuccessful.
61 Posted 03/08/2021 at 18:38:08
62 Posted 05/08/2021 at 13:37:32
Like Ray Roche said the other day, Koeman and Allardyce, aided by Walsh, should have been put against the shithouse wall and shot, after flame-throwing their genitals! Bastards!
63 Posted 06/08/2021 at 06:57:31
I expect Moshiri to release funds at the last minute as usual, but FFS rules are going to set limits. If Benitez can spend another £1. 8 million before then and get a right-back, maybe not.
I remember the seasons we were looking for a left-back and along came Digne. Here's hoping. I do expect a few movements out to part-finance any comings in.
Is Brands back from his holidays yet?
64 Posted 07/08/2021 at 09:21:51
Surprised no one else has come in for him mind.
65 Posted 07/08/2021 at 09:32:27
66 Posted 07/08/2021 at 09:50:26
He looked great going forward, but positionally popped up everywhere. Even left wing for the Dutch 😆.
67 Posted 07/08/2021 at 09:59:47
We've bemoaned being too defensive. Let's get players who give the other side something to worry about and put them on the back foot.
Let's get on the front foot. This player can help us do that.
68 Posted 07/08/2021 at 10:13:15
69 Posted 12/08/2021 at 11:22:58
Everton should of reached an agreement months ago when it was first reported not now all of a sudden, once again they have wasted time on bumbling around and another club has come in, disgraceful!
70 Posted 12/08/2021 at 11:39:23
Still not quite sure how Moshi's millions went from causing jealousy from clubs around us, to scratching the bottom of the barrel and becoming a laughing stock.
All feels very peculiar and is becoming very difficult to take seriously. Also, getting a bit sick of reading articles stating Townsend, and Gray could be the steals of the window, it just adds to the embarrassment and desperation for hope. Everton are a museum curiosity at best these days.
71 Posted 12/08/2021 at 11:55:30
Dumfries has, by all accounts, been lukewarm especially since his good showing in the Euros. He's good but not that good. There are always other options.
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