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Fran Mitchell
1 Posted 16/01/2021 at 14:28:30
Cracking match that between West Brom and Wolves. Wolves looking in trouble, lots of nice play, some good players, but lack cutting edge and weak defensively. Moutinho is aging and Neves hasn't developed as much as expected.

2 players from the game who'd be good for us are Neto, and Pereira. Would be good alternatives for Richarlison/Iwobi.

Thomas Richards
2 Posted 16/01/2021 at 14:34:11
Danny O’Neill
3 Posted 16/01/2021 at 15:55:03
It was a good match.

Interesting as both manager and team have rightfully received plaudits for the past 2 seasons.

But as soon as things aren't going their way, both the players and more worryingly, the manager, looked void of ideas. Only know one way to play? Only has a Plan A?

Leeds likewise I would argue. Play one way and hope it comes off, which explains their recent two halves to every season dilemma.

Fran Mitchell
4 Posted 16/01/2021 at 16:41:41
Moyes getting a classic 1-0 here by the loks of things. maybe we could try and sell Tosun to Burnley...non of their strikers will score goals in a million years.

Declan Rice would be a wonderful addition to Doucoure and Allan in midfield. McNeill has lovely delivery too, would be a good alternative to Richarlison on the left.

Brian Harrison
5 Posted 17/01/2021 at 11:21:51
Watching MotD last night and it looks like Nuno Espirit Santo, the Wolves manager, has upset the refs with his comments over Mason. WBA's first penalty was clearly outside the box, and even more surprising is neither Lineker, nor his two pundits made any comment over the first penalty. The commentary didn't say whether VAR looked at it.
Dave Abrahams
6 Posted 17/01/2021 at 11:57:40
Brian, yes I thought WBA's first penalty was debatable and wondered why it wasn't discussed by the panel. My thoughts were the same as yours: pay-back time for the Wolves manager by the referees' mob for his comments about the referee who ran the game the other week. Doesn't pay to have a go at them, unfortunately... what a mess the game is in!!
Brian Harrison
7 Posted 17/01/2021 at 12:06:08

Do you know if VAR looked at it? As I say, it didn't say on MotD whether they did review it or not. Seems madness VAR was brought in for clear and obvious mistakes and this was clearly a foul outside the box.

Danny O’Neill
8 Posted 17/01/2021 at 12:18:37
I think they did, Brian, but I was only paying half-attention to the match. Believe it was reviewed and judged to be contact on the line, therefore a penalty.

Wolves had a shout when the defender patted the ball back to the keeper with both hands, but then we're straying into interpretation of the handball rule, which these days requires a diploma.

Michael Kenrick
9 Posted 17/01/2021 at 15:23:09
One of those classic headed goals for McGoldrick against Spurs.

The defenders are always questioned but there he was with his nonce in exactly the right spot in space for the trajectory of the falling ball.

The Spurs player in front of him jumped a lot higher but the ball curved over him. The Spurs defender behind was as close as he could be without fouling. Yet the pundits always say it was the defenders at fault for the goal.

I'm always curious – other than preventing the cross, how do you stop goals like that from being scored against you?

Danny O’Neill
10 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:18:42
Am I getting old and grumpy or does anyone else what the days of actual sports journalist commenting on football rather than ex-player pundits?

Listening to Souness using language like "our" and Keane with his "hope", why not just get a couple of supporters in?

Danny O’Neill
11 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:29:06
I have this argument with my younger brother a lot, Michael. He is from a generation and of the belief that every goal is preventable. Sometimes you just have to give credit to the forward – and I say that as an ex centre-back converted from full-back.

But, to your question, when I was playing and coaching, I would say and used to say, you don't always have to win the header, but you can do "enough" to put the forward off. Block the run, make a decent challenge; just do enough.

Rob Halligan
12 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:30:35
How appropriate Man Utd are the first visitors to Anfield and hear their song sung by Gerry Marsden, following his death.
Eugene McLoughlin
13 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:39:00
Fucking hate the media, bigging up this game, fuck off!!! Both cunts of teams and clubs!!!!
Rob Halligan
14 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:42:12
Well it only took Martin Tyler 8 minutes to mention an injury picked up in the Merseyside derby for Alcantara, even giving the player responsible for the injury a mention.
Eugene McLoughlin
15 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:42:16
But I'm still watching it!!!!!! Will I ever learn!!!!!!???
Rob Halligan
16 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:43:00
Eugene, we watch it hoping the shite get beat.
Eugene McLoughlin
17 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:45:51
That's for sure Rob!!!
Michael Kenrick
18 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:47:44
Yes, that's fair, Danny. Do enough to put the striker off without actually committing a foul that gives away a penalty.

I think you're right: that provides enough vague latitude that allows the defender to feel he could or should have done more to prevent every goal conceded.

Darren Hind
19 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:50:22
Sky used to do a show where a supporter from each club would sit and watch the match together.
It was often raucous and really quite funny if you were a neutral. Far more interesting than watching Keane and Souness give the same analysis for every game.

I'll be giving this one a wide berth. Hate the fucking pair of them.

These two clubs should be fucked off to play each other every week in the Isle of Man Super League or something... If ever two clubs and their followers deserved each other, it's these two.

No goals and plenty of injuries please... long-term if possible.

Eugene McLoughlin
20 Posted 17/01/2021 at 16:53:10
Darren, that would be the best scenario: Dire 0-0 and loads of injuries!!!! LOL!!!!
Fran Mitchell
21 Posted 17/01/2021 at 17:13:41
I have no issues with having ex-players as pundits, so long as they are pundits for games of their teams and that both teams are represented.

It's annoying when pundits are presented as neutral, when they clearly are not.

I prefer having Cahill, Osman and other Evertonian pundits for Everton games. Mainly because they actually have more knowledge. Other pundits knowledge regarding clubs outside the Sky-6 boys club is so poor that all they do is come out with long repeated cliches and zero insight. And during the game really present zero interest in doing more than the minimum.

In regards to the 'biggest game in the world'™️. Dull, again. Hopefully stays this way. a dull 0-0 will disappoint everyone so much in their advert for the 'best league in the world'™️

In other news. That Ndombele goal was ridiculous. Unbelievable.

Rob Halligan
23 Posted 17/01/2021 at 17:24:01
Fran, do you think Ndombele meant to score that goal? I thought he was just hooking it back over his shoulder hoping a team mate would be there to knock it in?
Mike Doyle
24 Posted 17/01/2021 at 17:27:28
The stream I'm watching the “biggest game in the world” on has Jim Beglin as the co-commentator.

His view – as usual – Liverpool the best team in all respects while league leaders Man Utd should consider themselves fortunate to be allowed on the same pitch etc. etc.

Total bollocks. Like listening to a bloke in the pub. How do these people get these jobs?

Danny O’Neill
25 Posted 17/01/2021 at 17:28:20
Exactly Darren, only those in the Fan Zone done it for free as far as I know. These two get paid a fortune. Not my money I guess, although I suppose I contribute to their salary through my subscription.

Personally I prefer impartiality from the commentators. I'm terrible at watching Everton and usually have to wait a day or two before making rational comment. I couldn't do it at the time or I'd just sound like one of those fan zone people.

In fairness, Michael, that's respect to you for your on-the-day in-the-moment matchday reports!

Fran Mitchell
26 Posted 17/01/2021 at 17:33:20
Rob probably not, but he'll never admit it.
Ricky Oak
27 Posted 17/01/2021 at 17:39:24
Two dirty twat teams, trying to out dirty each other, for once the referee has his work cut out,, who to favour!, both horrible, horrible teams, as for beglin, what a hole, of the arse variety, seriously.
Danny O’Neill
28 Posted 17/01/2021 at 18:25:02
Well, that was dull.

2 points off the champions with a game in hand. 5 points off top with a game in hand.

Good place to be.

Dave Abrahams
29 Posted 17/01/2021 at 18:34:26
There wasn't much between the two teams but Man Utd had three very good chances to win that game.

I thought Pogba, Fernandes and Rachford were poor for United in three key positions. Liverpool had Allison to thank for two very good saves and Thiago looked good in midfield; up front nobody impressed for them.

They are missing the lad from Wolves. When was the last time they won, was the Villa game in the cup against their reserves?

Thomas Richards
30 Posted 17/01/2021 at 18:35:00
Ollie let himself down there Danny. No courage to go for the win against two central midfielders playing centre half.

A Man Utd win would have seen them go 6 points clear of Liverpool.

Kevin Molloy
31 Posted 17/01/2021 at 18:41:52
Whisper it, but the untimely slaying of Virgil when he was at the peak of his goddam powers may well open the door to our finishing above the Reds this year. That wouldn't sit well with me, finishing in the Champions League spots only after we went out to injure one of their players.

Hopefully, if that does happen, Everton will do the decent thing and ask Uefa to let Liverpool have our seat. I'd really not want to contemplate how unfair they would think it all was if they had to slum it in the Europa League whilst we sneaked into to the top competition through foul means.

Fran Mitchell
32 Posted 17/01/2021 at 18:43:24
If that was between any two teams outside of Sky's darling 6, the adjectives would be 'boring stalemate' 'dull' 'nothing to say' etc.

Because it was the Sky darlings, they use words like 'intriguing' and 'tactical battle'.

It was dull. Boring. Uneventful.

Liverpool's front three, after 24 months, finally seem to have lost their spark.

Good result for us. 2 points behind them with a game in hand. We've won more games than them despite playing 1 less. 5 points off top

My feeling however is that City will win the league (win their games in hand and they go top - yet one of them is against us)

Rob Halligan
34 Posted 17/01/2021 at 19:25:02
The annoying thing is, all the teams around us are playing again in midweek (except Spurs), and all look likely to win. Liverpool home to Burnley, Man Utd away at Fulham, Man City home to Aston Villa. Even West Ham could go level on points if they beat West Brom. Leicester v Chelsea we could do with being a draw.

So, while some may be saying it's a chance to rest players by not playing today, we are going to be in a catch-up situation soon, with us being two games behind all teams around us.

Thomas Richards
36 Posted 17/01/2021 at 19:46:17
Stones just scored a cracker.
Rob Halligan
37 Posted 17/01/2021 at 19:50:25
Palace never seem to do well without Zaha, Thomas, so this could be a real backs to the wall job for them.
Brian Murray
38 Posted 17/01/2021 at 19:59:13
Looks like Cruyff turns in his own box are a thing of the past for Stones. He's maturing and might make the difference in this two-horse race between us and Man City. We just need an inspired last two weeks of the window from Brands. Well, as Big Nev says, aim for the top no less.
Jason Li
39 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:03:00
Upside of the Utd draw tonight... at least the RS only have a 1 in 6 chance of winning the league this year, a roll of a dice.

This one going down to one of the most nervous last week and days of the season.

Could it go down to goal difference too?

Thomas Richards
40 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:03:01

How good is this De Bruyne?

Best player in the Premier League by a country mile.

Brian Murray
41 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:07:35
Jason. All the more reason not to sit on our hands this window and miss a big opportunity to really go for it. Never have a better chance while no one going on a big run.
Thomas Richards
42 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:10:28
Stones – first Premier League goal for Man City.

Surprised me, that one.

Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:12:50
Brian (41), yes two good signings could get us into the Champions League and a chance of big money, I'll be surprised if we don't make those signings.
Jason Li
44 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:17:44
Brian, I really hope so.

I see Leicester with the magnificent Harvey Barnes and Vardy, and then some very good players.

Surely we can finish above Leicester? Champions League music is so close, the league is a 1 in 6 chance too for us.

As thousands of Evertonians know already: Come on, Burnley: sign Kenny. Come on, West Brom: sign Tosun. Come on, Roma: get in Bernard.

If needs must, throw in Simms in the deal as he is a few years off and will be a good player, but we can finance someone who will do it today and for the next few years. Anything to allow Brands to give the nod for a quality signing and Carlo more immediate quality to choose from.

Danny O’Neill
45 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:26:07
United showed no ambition to win that. Sat deep and contained for an hour then hoped to nick one.

Yes, De Bruyne is my favourite non-Everton player to watch now and has been for the past 18 months. Until this season he was just my favourite player to watch, but now I enjoy watching Everton players again.

Danny O’Neill
46 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:29:26
Gundogan. Nice
Rob Halligan
47 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:38:18
Thomas, KDB is different class. That cross for Stones' goal was brilliant, outside of the foot, to get the height and power for Stones to score the header. He now has about one hundred assists for city in five years, or twenty per season, unbelievable. He's also scored the odd goal or two I believe!

John stones gets his second!!

Danny O’Neill
49 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:42:51
And Chelsea let him go Rob. Okay I get it that sometimes players develop at different stages or don't fit a team at a time but with Kevin, you make him fit right? You build around that kind of talent and potential. Those players don't come along very often.

But then they done the same with Salah.

Rob Halligan
50 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:46:04
He's an amazing player Danny. God how much he's worth, but I think you'll need more than a few books of Green Shield Stamps to buy him!!

Don't anyone dare ask what are Green Shield Stamps!!

Brian Murray
51 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:53:17
Rob. Flashback. Hard times plus my mum had to cut out 50p-piece shapes out of oil cloth (Lino) for the elecy meter. Different times. All true but cue the Monty Python sketch – kids today don't know they're born. 😂
Joe McMahon
52 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:57:25
Rob, I remember them very well.

I think aswell as the mini fixture pile up, our main problem will be the goal difference. It will be a lot less than all the teams around us. Maybe realistically we will have to wait for the summer window, to hopefully bring in a couple more proven goalscorers.

Rob Halligan
53 Posted 17/01/2021 at 20:59:39
Brilliant goal by Sterling. 4-0.
Danny O’Neill
54 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:11:46
My mother used to speak of them.

That was indeed the finest of free kicks from Sterling.

Dave Abrahams
55 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:12:21
Danny (45),

Yes, great watching De Bruyne, so much energy, skill in all aspects of the game and a rapid thinking football brain to go with it.

Then again, it's great to watch the whole Man City team linking up and creating a nearly perfect football picture.

Dave Abrahams
56 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:19:34
Brian (51),

Making phoney 50p pieces, youse must have been posh! It took me ages to file down ha'p'nies (half-pennies) to act as shillings for the electric and gas meters. You'd get a couple of days out of a shilling then.

Mind you, getting a bit posh myself calling them shillings – better known as a “dogs knob” – a bob!!

Danny O’Neill
57 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:25:00
It is Dave. I think you nail it with them creating a picture of how they play the game. Also, and I think you've probably heard me bang on about this previously, but speed of mind and thought. A footballing brain and quick decision making is arguably more important than raw pace. But to have both, well that is just the perfect storm.

Many Evertonians rightfully are enjoying watching glimpses of what James can see and deliver.

On their day, City demonstrate the difference when you have many of those types of players, who see things that us mortals don't, in the same team rather than the odd one.

Paul Birmingham
58 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:30:23
Man City setting a benchmark, using the ball and playing with a purpose, and efficiency. They look like the team to beat, but any team that gets in their faces and gets stuck in has a good chance against them.

I still think they are the most consistent good-to-watch attacking team over the last 5 years. City play well when unhindered but get into them and they can melt. Deffo the in-form team, but they can be beaten.

Shame there's no crowds but, when Everton get to play them, I hope that a proper job is done and Everton stick it to them and beat them. Their defence is their Achilles but getting the ball off them enough, is a challenge.

Let's hope the Owls FA Cup game goes ahead. Everton are doing well.

Robert Tressell
59 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:45:47
De Bruyne is magic. Bizarre to think he was with Lukaku and Salah at Chelsea but none of them got a sniff. A proper player who runs a game with intelligence and technique. He doesn't half work hard either.
Thomas Richards
60 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:48:23
Rob. Danny.

Souness said in post match debate.

"That is not difficult to do."

He was talking about the outside of the boot cross from De Bruyne.


Danny O’Neill
61 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:54:37
What else would you expect from him Thomas?

They can only give praise to their own.

And they call us bitter?

Paul A Smith
62 Posted 17/01/2021 at 21:56:57
Apparently someone on Twitter named the Shite V Manure game as Tel Clappico.

That's the best line to ever come out of Twitter. I'd buy that person a pint.

Thomas Richards
63 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:00:30
Filing the coins down for the leccy.

Did anyone's ma/da sing while they were filing the coins on the back step, so the neighbours couldn't hear? Pouring water on the step so the coin didn't get too hot?

The neighbours were all doing it themselves, by the way.

Rob Halligan
64 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:18:42
Souness is just a Colin bellend. To get the height and power KDB got with the outside of the foot direct onto a players head and score, is, in my opinion, one of the hardest things to do, second only to that one whereby you cross one foot behind the other leg to cross the ball. I always remember Gary Jones doing it for us in the '70s. Does anyone else remember??
Danny O’Neill
65 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:28:33
When Brazilians used to do it, we called it the banana shot / cross. Use of the outside of the boot. Great technique and not easy to execute.

Unless you are Graham Souness and play for Liverpool obviously!

Brian Murray
66 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:29:09
Thomas. And to top it all, the leccy man didn't bat an eyelid when emptying meter. Here's to a title-defining last two weeks of the window for the toffs. C'mon Marcel, one last push, eh.
Rob Halligan
67 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:37:48
Breaking news from La Liga...... Lionel Messi sent off for the first time in his career, after 753 games!!

Like who gives a monkey's arse!!

Brian Murray
68 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:44:27
These pundits do out of touch and say anything without even knowing! Trevor Sinclair spouting he can't understand why we let Walcott go. The fact that he's done nothing since he joined us might have a bit to do with it.
Geoff Lambert
69 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:49:37
I can't believe we could be in 10th place by the time we play our next match. Let's hope this strange season brings up some more surprising results in the next couple of weeks.
Andy Crooks
70 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:54:03
Danny, Souness was and is as vile a specimen who ever earned money playing football. A hard man in his own mind but yellow to the core.
Tom Bowers
71 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:56:02
Man City are just amazing but big wages attracts the best and add to that a class manager and it all falls into place. I think they will win the Premier League, with Everton second... maybe third, and Liverpool fifth. Wouldn't that be nice!!!
Paul Hewitt
72 Posted 17/01/2021 at 22:57:07
Whoever wins this league will be the worst champions ever. It's total rubbish.
Brent Stephens
73 Posted 17/01/2021 at 23:00:18
Paul #71 "Whoever wins this league will be the worst champions ever. It's total rubbish."

There's something about that which seems to do us down, if we end up in a top-four spot.

Robert Tressell
74 Posted 18/01/2021 at 00:29:48
A top 4 spot will be incredibly difficult because Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea are all now getting into a bit of rythym. They've got the players and the squad depth.

But we've got Carlo. Here's hoping.

Jay Harris
75 Posted 18/01/2021 at 03:52:58
The only thing Souness used the outside of his boots for was to go down other players shins.
Derek Thomas
76 Posted 18/01/2021 at 07:32:54
Jay @ 74; well put
Jason Wilkinson
77 Posted 18/01/2021 at 07:55:17
I know predicting the outcome of any match is hard these days. I have us finishing the season on 64 points. I think that will get us 6th place this year.

The key to finishing higher will be four away games. Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool & Chelsea. I have all these as losses. I think 72 points will be needed to finish 4th.

Carl Manning
78 Posted 18/01/2021 at 09:39:56
City's defence is their Achilles heel and weakness? You blatantly haven't watched them this season. Fewest goals conceded and most clean sheets. It's been their strength this season. Yet more uninformed statements. A team concede 13 goals in 18 games and their defense is a weakness. My god
Tony Abrahams
79 Posted 18/01/2021 at 09:57:26
I'm sure Guardiola has rotated his squad more than every other team, which is why City also look very fresh at the minute.
Mark Murphy
80 Posted 18/01/2021 at 10:20:51
Jason we WILL beat Liverpool away! Believe!! UTFT
Mark Murphy
81 Posted 18/01/2021 at 10:24:07
Robert if Liverpool are now in their rhythm long may it last!
3 points from the last 12
Brian Harrison
82 Posted 18/01/2021 at 10:25:41
I notice that with no 4th official being used to organise substitutions and keeping managers inside their technical areas, I don't see managers moving out of their technical area. I also haven't seen any altercations between managers since the 4th official has been removed. Also there is no confusion in bringing on substitutes. So maybe, when we get back to "normal", we can dispose of them altogether.
Stuart Sharp
83 Posted 18/01/2021 at 10:42:13
Robert #74 - you don't mention Leicester. At the moment, I'd say they are looking at least as good for top 4 as Chelsea, though I realise they blew it last year. Chelsea were unconvincing against Fulham. Up until the red card, Fulham looked the more likely to score. It really is a tough season for predictions.
Robert Tressell
84 Posted 18/01/2021 at 11:43:46
Stuart, I didn't mention Leicester because the clubs with the big, quality squads have a huge advantage over them (and us). But you're right, they are very good and will be there or thereabouts. Like us, they have an excellent manager and some excellent players. But the richer clubs are much better placed when injuries hit etc.

Mark: As for Liverpool, they are hit and miss at the moment but I don't think anyone is expecting them to drop out of the top 4. A title win will be much more of a challenge though. Here's hoping they fall flat.

Jay Wood

85 Posted 18/01/2021 at 13:36:47
Robert, it is natural based on recent history to assume that a top 4 spot will be difficult to achieve and that the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea have got the jump on us on squad depth.

But to add 'they are all now getting into a bit of rythym' is well wide of the mark.

This is the form table since game 12 up to and including this weekend's games, when we started our recent 5 wins in 6 games v Chelsea.

Current PL Form Table

We sit TOP of that form table. One point clear of both City and United. 4 points clear of Arsenal (who have played a game more, due to our postponed fixtures v City and Villa).

SIX points better off than Liverpool. NINE points better off than Spurs. ELEVEN points better off than Chelsea. All in the same time frame.

We've acheived that with a tough run of fixtures during the most congested period in the football calendar, with many key absentees that you suggest will work against clubs such as Everton. And we've done that without our leading scorer and one of this season's standout players scoring a goal in any of the victories.

It is natural that supporters tend to navel gaze and look primarily at their own club's results and performances in isolation. It's more informative to take a wider view and recognize just how well we are performing against the Sky Six.

For example, whilst their home record continues to keep them in contention, Liverpool's away form is extremely ordinary. The 7-0 demolition of Palace a complete outrider. That was only their 2nd away win all season in nine games on the road. Contrast that to our six away wins.

Only United and Leicester have won more PL games than Everton's 10 this season. And both have played a game more.

Each season I also like to keep track of a mini-league of ALL games between Everton and the Sky Six. The current standing in that is the following (position, games played, points):

1 L'pool P 6 Pts 12
2 Spurs P 6 Pts 10
3 EVERTON P 5 Pts 10
4 City P 5 Pts 8
5 Arsenal P 6 Pts 6
6 United P 6 Pts 6
7 Chelsea P 6 Pts 2

Everton and City have played one game less than the others due to their game being postponed.

To add some further snippets of info, in ALL the games played in this mini-league of 7, Everton is the only team to score in all their games. United and Chelsea have failed to score in 4 of their 6 fixtures against the other 6 clubs. City remained goaless in 3 of their 5 fixtures. Our only defeat constitutes United's only win in this mini-league. Us, Spurs and Liverpool are the only teams in this mini-league to win 3 games.

Taking the very best clubs as the benchmark, in games against them - as we are doing in the wider PL standings - we are more than holding our own.

And arguably we've got players returning from injury to make us better.

I repeat a refrain I've used once or twice in recent weeks.

We're doing all right.

Mark Murphy
86 Posted 18/01/2021 at 13:45:53
That's all well and good Jay but just consider how much better off we'd be with Allardyce or Moyes in charge,
Coming on here with your positivity and logic...
Jay Wood

87 Posted 18/01/2021 at 14:01:17
You got me Mark!

No answer to your knock-down argument!

Is Eddie Howe still available...?

Joe McMahon
88 Posted 18/01/2021 at 14:20:19
Jay - I know you like your stats but i'm not sure exactly what point you are trying to make? It's here and now that's the important part surely. The teams around us are all bang in form apart from Liverpool, but it's gonna mean us winning hell of a lot of games and winning at Anfield to finish above them.

My biggest concern about our push the a CL place though is goals and goal difference. Our GD is a lot worse than the teams around us, and we don't score the same amount of goals. I feel being realistic it gonna take another summer window, and hopefully the arrival of another 2 proven goalscorers. Another striker and a goalscoring midfelder at least is required. Teams around us have goals, pace and quality. Everton require more of all 3. We have waited for 29 years to qualify for the CL, another season won't kill us, and maybe will be more prepared and ready.

Jay Harris
89 Posted 18/01/2021 at 15:35:03
I think its twitchy bum time for a few posters due to the lack of games recently and the top 10 being so congested but as Jay points out our form is up there with anyone and we are now much harder to beat than we used to be.

We would all like a couple of additions especially on the goalscoring front but Richy is yet to catch fire this season and JAmes should have more of an impact in the second half of the season.

Plus the postponements have given the treatment room a bit more time to get players such as Allan and Gbamin? up to speed.

Jay Wood

90 Posted 18/01/2021 at 15:43:22
Joe. This.

'I'm not sure exactly what point you are trying to make.'

My point couldn't be clearer. I responded to Robert's claim that ALL the usual suspects are 'getting into a bit of rythym' when, in truth, Everton's 'rythym' is currently better than all of them. And in some cases by a considerable margin.

That's with a number of absentees, something Robert also said that a club like ours would struggle to keep up with clubs boasting deeper squads.
During the most manic month of the fixtures.
Coming through a number of tough games with 5 out of 6 wins.

Strangely, having had it spelt out, you choose to ignore that, echoing Robert's sentiments by stating:

'It's here and now that's the important part surely. The teams around us are all bang in form apart from Liverpool.'

I repeat, nobody but NOBODY is more 'bang in form' than Everton, 'here and now'.

And the above is all without referencing the second part of my earlier post which (again, quite clearly) demonstrates how well we are doing when all results only in games between the Sky Six are taken into consideration.

To further clarify the point I was making that you apparently missed, I will simply repeat the words I ended my earlier post with:

We're doing all right.

Dennis Stevens
91 Posted 18/01/2021 at 15:48:15
Jay #90 + various: "We're doing all right."

That's all very well, but imagine how much better it'll be when we stop playing shite!

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
92 Posted 18/01/2021 at 15:54:01
Jay, my methodology is "how much better are we doing than last year in the same fixtures".

If we had the same results as last season, we would be sitting in 7th on 28 points. So in terms of fantastically performing better, I am not convinced.

Yes, we only got 21 points in the 21 fixtures we haven't played and Sheff United and Fulham (read Norwich) at home should be 4-6 points this season not 0 and similarly 3 at Brighton rather than 0. So I am sure we will improve but we need to pick up 20+ not just 9 on last season's performances.

Interestingly they who we do not name, have dropped 21 points since they lost at Watford just before lockdown. At this rate of decline they could be relegated in 22-23. Oh please let it happen. They are now 2 points clear of City and 31 from us. All the top 7 are doing better than last year, except for one team - 😁👍 Even Arsenal are 5 points up on last season. And some ginger haired manager has dragged a EastEnd club out of the relegation mire. Now when has he ever done that before?

Brian Murray
93 Posted 18/01/2021 at 16:13:02
Honestly think if Brands won't or can't get us the two or three signings we need this window to get us to really challenge then let him be Man Utd's problem or whoever wants to pay his big salary. He will be no big loss and don't want to hear about the high earning losers we can't get rid of as an excuse. Clocks ticking. Carlo made a point the other week saying how ambitious we are.

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