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Jay Wood
[BRZ]

1 Posted 16/12/2020 at 17:18:18
I see WBA has gone for the 'Break Glass Only In The Case of an Emergency' option and appointed our esteemed former manager, Big Sam.
Rob Halligan
2 Posted 16/12/2020 at 17:30:03
Jay, the first five words of that OP makes me want to vomit.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

3 Posted 16/12/2020 at 17:33:26
You know Rob, I rebuked myself for similar after I posted, for even recalling that he was ever our manager.

Mind-boggling, isn't it, how clubs continue to turn to him.

Rob Halligan
4 Posted 16/12/2020 at 17:36:08
It's cos he's the only one who seems to be available. He keeps on getting sacked!!
Paul Swan
5 Posted 17/12/2020 at 07:44:53
He's only available because Covid has closed most Christmas Grottos and he needed the gig. Same with the evil pixie, Sammy Lee. Ironic he's joining the Baggies because, after his fat arse has been in them, that's how his track suit kecks will be.
Trevor Peers
6 Posted 17/12/2020 at 08:29:02
Maybe West Brom should have appointed Silva instead.
Barry Rathbone
7 Posted 17/12/2020 at 08:41:46
He saved us from a downward spiral, earning at least the summer transfer window to see what he could do. I never understood the odium he gets from some fans...
Robert Tressell
8 Posted 17/12/2020 at 08:46:52
West Brom should take a look at Norwich. Promoted without the resources to stay up, they used the opportunity to develop some young players and learn how to play with style against better opposition. Looks like they will bounce back after sticking to their principles and sticking with their manager.

Bilic has done a good job with WBA, but has a crap squad which wasn't improved over summer. What did they expect? They should stick with Bilic and grow as a club. Instead, they unravel the good work Bilic has done and hire Sam to see if he can grind out 30-odd points. In the process you just accumulate some high-earning deadwood that will leech off your club for many a year.

Steve Brown
9 Posted 17/12/2020 at 08:57:27
The worst feeling any football fan can experience – waking up and hoping it was a bad dream that Allardyce has been appointed as your manager. Then realising it wasn't.
David Pearl
10 Posted 17/12/2020 at 09:16:20
I can't imagine what the players are thinking. They'd all be buzzing after the Man City game. I always had time to listen to Bilic.

As for Sam? He will do a job. The man had a back 4 of Kenny, Holgate, Williams, Martina... and got us to 8th. And no, Carlo would not do better with those players. Not a chance.

Sam Hoare
11 Posted 17/12/2020 at 09:30:03
I'm not a fan of Big Sam by any stretch but he has proven to be effective more than once and he deserves a modicum of credit for leaving us in a better position to that which he arrived; even if the football was worse than dire and the purchase of Tosun and Walcott left us with more high-earning driftwood.

Allardyce may well keep WBA up this season, though the bigger question may be what they look like in 3-4 years time. Like our manager its been a while since Allardyce really built a club.

Brian Wilkinson
12 Posted 17/12/2020 at 12:38:34
Could be good news for Everton, just in time for the January window, so he may take Tosun and a couple of others, to the Hawthorns.
Brian Wilkinson
13 Posted 17/12/2020 at 12:41:06
I agree with some posters, his football was dire, but he could only work with the players he had and got us up the table playing ugly, he did what was asked of him.
Brian Murray
14 Posted 17/12/2020 at 12:56:50
Big Sam finally had his big shot at a big club. Let himself down big time. End of.
John Davies
15 Posted 17/12/2020 at 13:03:17
Not a fan of the man. However his is a fireman. He rescues clubs that are about to be relegated, as Everton could have been when he arrived. He plays a percentage game which isn't always good to look at. End of.
Fran Mitchell
16 Posted 17/12/2020 at 13:07:01
Allardyce (He does not deserve his Big Sam moniker) is a dreadful manager. The football under him was beyond awful, and he is a manager who damages clubs in the long term. After he eventually leaves, clubs generally tend to crumble because he has zero intention of building something, merly papers over cracks with overpriced 'experienced pros'. We're lucky we only had him 6 months, even if we did go for Silva afterwards.

Also, we were never in as bad of a risk of relegation and was made out.

Steve Hopkins
17 Posted 17/12/2020 at 13:17:05
Not a fan of the guy by any stretch but he happens to be a one-trick-pony that's good enough at his one trick for people to keep coming back for more. It wasn't his fault that Moshiri pulled the emergency cord.

Having him back in the game (but not managing us) reminds me of the days when The Shite weren't the best team in the country and we could actually beat them occasionally. When players like Jay Jay Okocha and Youri Djorkaeff were playing at Bolton

Barry Rathbone
18 Posted 17/12/2020 at 14:01:24
If Sam had a modicum of diplomacy, it's quite possible he could have recreated his Bolton success at Newcastle, WHU or here. Calling out cry-arse fans when they start moaning antagonises the precious souls to the point of no return; it's a lost battle from the get-go.

By contrast, our smooth-talking Italian is basking in eulogies for his version of Sam's defence first policy!!!

Sensitive fans, eh! – who'd have 'em?

Paul Swan
19 Posted 18/12/2020 at 07:27:06
Barry, I have been critical about the smooth talking Italian and still have my doubts but let's remember the final antics of Allardyce after the season finale at Goodson. Having cleared out the ground after the final whistle with yet another piss poor performance, the players emerged to maybe around 1-2 thousand who remained for the lap of “honour” but where was Sam? Hiding! shit scared to face the crowd - claiming to be doing media engagements. The final act of cowardice from an embarrassing stain in the clubs history
Ricky Oak
20 Posted 18/12/2020 at 07:51:47
Was it true that he got 12 million pound out of Everton? Seem to remember, all our finances being discussed when hiring him and we even had to practically beg him to come here!, wouldn't surprise me at all if he now adds to the media bias against us, by, turning wba into Europe contenders, lol, honestly, we really get our pants pulled down by everyone.
Kevin Prytherch
21 Posted 18/12/2020 at 08:43:16
Sam Allardyce was a stain on our history that we didn't need at the time. He might have got us 8th, but at what cost? Ranked 20th for shots... didn't we have more shots in the first 5 games this season than the entirety of Allardyces reign.

We were never going down, but we panicked. Thankfully, we were one of the few clubs he's left who didn't go down, or virtually go down, immediately after.

Our best performance under Allardyce, the European dead rubber when he wasn't even present.

Rob Halligan
22 Posted 18/12/2020 at 09:03:25
Kevin, # 21. You took the words right out of my keyboard!! I was going to mention that European game in Cyprus that he couldn't be arsed attending. Wasn't it something to do with a hospital appointment he claimed he had? Probably to remove the money belt from off his fat waist. Craig Shakespeare was in charge, but let's face it, any of the 1400 fans who went to Cyprus could have managed the team that night!!
Ian Riley
24 Posted 18/12/2020 at 23:55:18
We were never going down? Perhaps not but we were doing a good job of playing like a team heading south.

I think Sam did what was asked of him. Football was dire to watch but positive results was key. He got paid what he deserved. I have no problem with that. If we were in the same position I would appoint him.

I think some of our fans became connoisseurs of football when our billionaire owner walked in. Shame the team wasn't. Wish Big Sam all the best at West Brom.

Kevin Molloy
25 Posted 19/12/2020 at 09:33:07
Where are West Brom getting ten million to get Fatty to do his abracadabra?

Oh wait... they're not paying him ten big ones or anything like it. That was just us.

Chris Williams
26 Posted 19/12/2020 at 09:52:46
It wasn't just the appalling football, it was the torrent of negativity and excuses that poured out of his mouth.

Not to mention his frequent visits to his Villa, going awol. He couldn't believe his luck. I think even Bill distanced himself from his appointment.

He's got another 18 months contract, so another nice payoff when they dispense with services at the end of the season.

It would be nice if we never saw him blighting the game again after this season, but maybe he'll shut up talking to his media cronies about his time here.

Eddie Dunn
27 Posted 19/12/2020 at 10:08:20
This time I think Sam will get relegated which might burst his bubble.
Rob Halligan
28 Posted 19/12/2020 at 10:40:46
Interesting article in the red echo about Roberto Martinez wanted to bring Carragher in as part of his coaching team, only to have the idea vetoed by kenwright, because he thought Carragher "was a little bit too red for the role". In that case, why didn't kenwright also veto the idea of us appointing Allardyce, who obviously was going to bring Sammy "he's fat he's round his arse is on the ground" Lee with him, as surely Lee would also be a little bit too red for the role?
Barry Rathbone
29 Posted 19/12/2020 at 11:08:52
Rob

I would think Mosh was the man behind the Sam and Sammy appointments because despite the bravado of internet Evertonians there was a real chance of us going down that season. Ex reds would have been low on Mosh's priorities

Frank Crewe
30 Posted 19/12/2020 at 16:21:08
Same old same old.
1. Get a Yo yo Championship side promoted. Check.
2. Struggle in the Premiership. Check.
3. Get the sack. Check.
4. Club appoints Fat Sam on double what they were paying you to "steady the ship". Check.

The worst thing any Championship manager can do for their job prospects is get their club promoted. Better off losing out in the playoffs. At least that way you get to keep your job.

Joe McMahon
31 Posted 19/12/2020 at 16:25:12
Frank, crazy ain't it. Moyes didn't get Preston promoted and then got a Premier League job for 11 years.

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