EFC's 'Enterprise Value' drops by 1.9%

And I thought Newcastle always managed to pip us somehow in these pissing contests. I guess it's a no-brainer that they will push us down at least another place if their takeover goes through – something I have not really been tracking.

The new stadium is paramount, for both Everton FC, and also the total regeneration of a big part of our city, especially because we now live in such uncertain times, and Everton have been left behind for way to long now.

I think it's quite amazing that we still make 21 based on winning nothing in 25 years and an old stadium. Imagine if we actually became good again?

What a great job our board and executive team are doing????

It is horrifying to see that we have not even held our ground since he came, but have gone backwards both on and off the field. Such an incomprehensible waste of money on managers and players who were not good enough.

He spoke of a 'limited window of opportunity' when he came... and now, post-Covid-19, it's a whole different ball-game!

But nevamind... coz EitC is absolutely wonderful and makes us all oh so proud to be Blues. Let's just become a charity and be done with it.

Michael, Terry has got a big point: EitC have been wonderful to so many people during these unprecedented times. But I didn't see sarcasm, mate, just maybe a time when Kenwright's philosophy gives his fans something to be proud of, and although I've had a couple of beers (my first since the lockdown), I'm definitely not being sarcastic, because you are normally the last person I'd stick up for on this great website.

Leicester have overtaken us as the relative pauper at the Sky feast which creates a kind of Big 7. Newcastle are a worry if they get flush with cash in a buyer's market and bring in, say, Pochettino.

Not so long ago, Martinez had us playing outstanding football and finishing 5th with a talented side. We're a good way off that now!!

And sorry, Terry, but yes, I'm one of those simple folk who think Everton Football Club should have one single solitary focus (it's in the name) and that is obviously being the best at football (and that's in the motto). All this other stuff may make everyone feel good but it's about having focus on the ball. I don't know anything of her footballing credentials but having a proven charity organizer promoted to CEO seems to also be linked to the decline of our prowess as a football club and unlikely to get us where we need to be.

Bobby @15, you seem pretty firm in your view there, so I may be pissing into the wind here but, if you look again, you might see some correlation between (i) a club's place in this ranking, and (ii) a club being successful.

If I take your post at face value, you say it's about supporting Everton... are you really suggesting that our perennial failure is down to insufficient support from (some of) the fans? Surely not!

And BTW, I think West Ham were gifted their stadium as long as they kept the running track.

'The bells of hell go ting-a-ling-a-ling, for you, but not for me...'

I can't see anyone (except you) suggesting we were 'sound' 4 years ago — but it is an indisputable fact that we finished 5th under Roberto Martinez after playing some better football that season.

Also, I can't see anyone (except you) suggesting we are now Accrington Stanley as a result of this progressive slide, and are about to do a Bury FC.

Strange way of making a point. If you don't accept the facts of the slide that some can see here, that's fine. But making stuff up that is palpably false does you no favours.

Martinez needed backing after that first wonderful season of his (until I think of Niasse) and Silva needed better players considering he lost his pace at the back and his engine in midfield. But, with Goodison full to capacity for every game, then it's only European football that could push Everton up this rich list table. I'd sooner win some cups, instead of splitting hairs over non-progress.

Eric@22, they are tenants? I already know this but, with gates of over 50,000 probably more, compared to gates of around 30,000 at the old Boleyn ground, then this shows me that you don't really need to own your own ground as long as you can take your matchday revenue for every game.

If Liverpool knocked Anfield down, they would be lucky to get 㿅 million for all the land but it's all about revenue and that's why they were prepared to spend so much money on a big massive loft-conversion.

Liverpool also started concerts then probably realised they'd better get a move on and push the world famous Anfield because, once the Bramley-Moore Dock stadium is built, playing a concert on the world famous waterfront will probably appeal to most big artistes and their audiences a lot more.

Like I said, its a false misleading metric...thus 21st isn't automatically a downer, it isn't anything but a measure of money and how you're perceived.

If there was no virus and we went to 5th when we had the chance, didn't do our usual FA Cup cave in - we'd still be 21st. on a list- but the season would be looking, as is said - sound.

You're right increased matchday income makes a difference (until now!) and WHU have nearly doubled theirs.

As Bobby Mallon rightly says, we need a decent Manager (I think we'd all agree we finally have one), well coached players (we will be patient), and decent players to start with who have the right attitude.

It's that last bit we have struggled with since Moyes left and his influence on the Martinez first season can't be underestimated.

We have a new stadium to look forward to as well.

I can't give this sort of thing much credence. Klopp has proved you can sell your best players and improve immeasurably if you create the right attitude at a club.

Or am I missing something?

And more important, is it ever going to change?

Now considering that they are similar to us in having more successful neighbours and are arguably worse than us, having been a yo-yo team in recent years, then Bramley-Moore Dock starts to look undersized.

We need a site with a future and a dry future. Far better to dismantle Goodison, play at our old gaff over the park for a few seasons, and build a new stadium at Goodison.

The old plans for a new stadium at Goodison with capacity at least on a par with the Bramley-Moore Dock site are well known, will organically build on our club's heritage, and would keep in place the sacred geography of two Merseyside giants located either side of Stanley Park.

If we are to build a new stadium, surely it has to be where we can hang the kopites one by one.

We wouldn't even need to move out if the whole project is cleverly managed, just work our way 'round the ground one side at a time. A lot cheaper too. Although many may feel the location isn't "sexy" enough.

With a depression coming, nothing can be taken for granted & the Board may have to review their plans.

But we can't say that it went downhill after Moyes left because his teams played boring football and couldn't win at any of the top 6, even if they didn't get beat and for the last half of his tenure were consistent top 6ish finishers.