Calvert-Lewin vows to keep working

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Dominic Calvert-Lewin isn't resting on his laurels and is keen to build on his recent uptick in goalscoring form under new Everton manager Carlo Ancelotti.

The 22-year-old's winner at Newcastle on Saturday was his fifth goal in as many games, a run in which the Blues are unbeaten since Marco Silva lost his job following the Anfield derby.

Calvert-Lewin has been thriving since being handed the support of a strike partner under interim boss Duncan Ferguson and now Ancelotti and he admits that he is really enjoying his football now.

"Whether it's from 20 yards or two yards away they all count," the striker told after the 2-1 win at St James's Park in which he grabbed a brace of poacher's goals and moved Everton back into the top half of the table. "For me, I'm just happy to be hitting the back of the net, that's what I'm there to do and that's what I believe I'm capable of - scoring goals and getting even more.

"The work doesn't stop for me now. I'm still working hard on the training pitch to just keep progressing and keep scoring more. But I can't do that without the work ethic of my teammates."

Ancelotti has a 100% record in his first two games in charge since being installed as Silva's permanent successor nine days ago and his experience and methods are already rubbing off on his new charges.

Calvert-Lewin, whose name will increasingly be mentioned in terms of a full England callup if his he continues to score goals at this rate, is confident that he can only continue to grow under the Italian's stewardship.

"He's a fantastic manager who's worked with great players and, for me as a young player, it's the best possible learning experience I could hope for," the former Sheffield United man continued. "For me I've just got to be like a sponge, take it all in and keep growing and learning as a player. Long may it continue scoring goals.

"For me personally I'm thoroughly enjoying my football, as you can see I think. For the lads, it's been a great period and a great month. Off the back of a bad run of form, as a club we weren't where we wanted to be and it was very important that we did our utmost to turn it around.

"Dunc came in, changed the atmosphere and we got results against big teams. We've kind of continued the momentum and got that togetherness back in the team. We're getting back to where we want to be after a below-par start. It was not good enough and like I say it was vitally important we turned it around, no-one wanted to be where we were.

"Look how tight it is in that pack, we want to get into that middle cluster and then go beyond. You can't do that without stringing performances together and getting results."


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Gerard Carey
1 Posted 30/12/2019 at 09:01:26
Great attitude from Dominic. What a difference a world class manager makes. Long may it continue, and move up that table.
Frank Sheppard
2 Posted 30/12/2019 at 09:11:42
Good to see, let's hope he keeps improving, and slotting them in. If he and Richarlison can start scoring at the same time, things would be looking rosy, and save us a fortune.
Joe McMahon
3 Posted 30/12/2019 at 09:48:56
Moshiri produced the goods this time recruiting Carlo. His experience at the highest level is something new to us fans and the players. This is Dom's chance to shine, and so far it's going well. We have Anfield in a few days, a bigger test.
Jason Leung
4 Posted 30/12/2019 at 09:51:43
I apologise for being negative here, but I still don't think Calvert-Lewin has what it takes to take us to the top level. His passing and first touch are as bad as Lukaku's used to be and he has no skill on the ball.

I hope to be proved wrong, but I doubt it.

Jason Broome
5 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:01:33
In my opinion, I'm happy for the lad that he is going through a good spell however I'm not going to get carried away. His technique, finishing, positional awareness and composure needs surgery.

However his work rate, aggressive play, positive attitude, good link up, flashes of flair and commitment of getting the ball into the box from all over the field would make him a very good Number 10.

I can tell that he loves the club, his head never goes down, he puts in a shift and never goes missing. He has the right attitude. Redeploying his attributes would create space and chances for a Lineker type Number 9.

I still think we need to buy an out and out goalscorer but I'm coming around to having Calvert-Lewin as a permanent fixture in the first team.

Tommy Carter
6 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:05:36
@ Jason

Comparing players is a waste of time. Calvert-Lewin is who he is.

No, he doesn't have an abundance of natural flair or technical skill. But he has a great deal of many other fine attributes.

His performance at The Etihad a couple of years ago told me a lot about Calvert-Lewin. He was phenomenal leading the line alone that night as we came away with a 1-1 draw.

I'm delighted he's started to find a goal scoring touch, this has been greatly assisted by tweaks made by Ferguson and Ancelotti. Well done to them. That's what good managers do: get the best out of players and I think this is what we are seeing.

Yes, he could do a job anywhere across the front line because you are guaranteed 100% commitment and physicality with Calvert-Lewin. But the key is not to get him doing a job. It's getting him to do a job that will bring about the best in the player in a way which will benefit the team. He is sensing half chances and dispatching them. A very rare skill in itself.

One area that I think he could improve is his shooting. His physicality often gets him into decent positions. His shooting however in these positions often seems rushed, not very powerful and less clinical.

Phil Lewis
7 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:11:27
Along with many other TW contributors, I have noticed many similarities with Graeme Sharpe in Calvert-Lewin's progressing game. The point that the lad is making here suggests he is benefitting from the revitalised work ethic that the whole team is producing. The goals are coming his way as a result.

In many ways, there are direct parallels with Sharpe's progress back in the '80s. When Kendall first became manager, he bought a load of rubbish and, when Sharpe got into the side, the support was not there for him to shine. Plus he was still a young lad, learning his trade. When he finally found himself alongside the all conquering mid-eighties team, he proved what a talent he was.

It is almost identical to Calvert-Lewin's Everton career so far. Once Ancelotti gets a settled team, especially if our long-term injured players return intact, then we will, I'm certain, see the best of Calvert-Lewin. The signs were there against Newcastle of better things to come. Richarlison was much improved, his work ethic was first class, assisting all over the pitch. Another whose talent was never in doubt, but simply needed to apply himself.

I'm hoping the new manager can bring out the best from Moise Kean. The lad hasn't looked the part yet, but I have to remember that he is only a kid. Fingers crossed, the best is yet to come from him. As Calvert-Lewin has pointed out here, his goals have come from an all-round team effort. Hopefully the same will be said of Moise Kean soon. I would imagine that if Ancelotti feels that the boy is not up to the task, then his Everton career will be short-lived.

John Raftery
8 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:32:21
He can now make the runs and take up positions knowing the ball will be delivered and delivered early. That is the difference. Whoever has played up front over the past six years has had to suffer while the team played a pedestrian passing game which allowed defenders time to double up on the forwards. When the pass or cross eventually arrived it was all too easy for defenders to intercept.
Jay Wood

9 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:33:30
Interesting to read in the Echo this morning that Ancelotti says he has been tracking DCL for a number of seasons now - as have other clubs and managers - but there was never a chance of signing him.


But then, who is Carlo Ancelotti to judge what constitutes a good footballer, eh?

Joe McMahon
10 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:38:25
Greame Sharp always gets mentioned as a comparison, but can someone just be themselves?

I know we have been starved of strikers over the years/decades but there has also been other great old fashioned England strikers seen playing at Goodison (mainly for the opposition). Les Ferdinand and Ian Wright were awesome up front, but I wouldn't want to try and compare DCL to either. It was always good seeing Ian Wright as he was one of the best. He has said positive things about DCL.

Dave Evans
11 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:42:57
I hate to be positive but I think Dominic will soon become one of the most sort after strikers in the premier league.
Phil Lewis
12 Posted 30/12/2019 at 10:47:09
Interesting comment John, point taken.
Billy Roberts
13 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:00:17
Let DCL just be DCL and not Graeme Sharp.
Can we also let Graeme Sharp be Graeme Sharp and not be Graeme SHARPE!!!
The amount of posters who misspell his surname is genuinely baffling for someone who has spent so long at the club and achieved so much.
No offence Phil @7, I see it a lot.
Something to do with the old bookys ??
Dave Williams
14 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:03:58
Scoring goals is all about confidence. Dom's is clearly very high now and if the rest of the team continue to improve then so will he.
I have compared him to Sharp for two years now, not necessarily because of similarities in play but how they shaped up at the club. The point about Sharp is he arrived as a raw teenager from a lower, in his caseScottish,club. Sharp was blooded earlier than was ideal because of a paucity of striking options and Sharp was said to be out of his depth.
He gained a reputation for scoring a few great goals( stunning volleys against Spurs and MU) but was constantly criticised for being poor around the penalty box and being too easy to knock off the ball. As is said above he had a low confidence team around him and was very low on confidence.
Enter Andy Gray. Past his best due to knee problems and written off as a waste of £250k he set about teaching Sharp how to play CF, how to back in to defenders, how to use elbows to keep them at bay and Sharp over the course of one season became the best orthodox CF in the league. With that confidence he started to beat his man in a dribble, he gave the great Hansen/ Lawrenson combo an absolutely torrid time culminating in “that” goal and this also rubbed off on Heath who was about to become a full international until Marwood did him.
That is why I compare the two of them- their progress story is quite similar and DCL has something which Sharp never had and that is raw pace.
I think he will be in the next England squad and if so the lad has worked bloody hard for it.
Ryan Holroyd
15 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:07:15
Calvert-lewin should be a number 10? Just when you thought you'd seen it all on ToffeeWeb.
Tony Abrahams
16 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:16:32
Better to just keep reading Ryan, because the very next post@6 from Tommy, is very good mate.
Fran Mitchell
17 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:22:47
Ryan, I think he meant no10 in the old sense of the word, i.e. 4-4-2/3-5-2, with a no9 and 10 up front, one a goal scorer, the other the target man.

Surely he didn't mean the 'no10' who would float between midfield and attack, and of which previous Everton managers have been obsessed with despite it's redundance in the modern game.

I've been a big fan of DCL since his first games, his physicality, work-rate, and pace at a young age made me think he had the tools. I think he's steadily improved every season, without being exceptional, and played in many positions, coming off the bench, and playing for a team with little creative spark.

I have said for a while now that it is not personnel changes that we necessarily need. Many calling for the club to spend 45+ million on a striker (joelinton, Wesley, Haller). I always thought that with a run of games, and with the right support, DCL would hit the 15+ goals this season, and he is well on track for that.

There is still much room for improvement, but he looks like the type of lad who will work his socks off to do just that. And getting him tied down to a long term contract this summer will likely be one of the top priorities on Brands' to do list. Especially if he makes the Euro squad.

Les Moorcroft
18 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:29:11
Having two up front helps the lad. The difference to me is our forwards are facing the goal when they receive the ball not having to turn. The goals he has scored since the new manager has come in he has been running on to the ball not after it.
Derek Knox
19 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:36:55
Some good posts on here, I believe in Carlo Ancelotti that we have a master tactician, who plans each game like a game of Chess. You don't let your opponent know your next move or which system you are going to employ.

All these people that designate he should play as a Number (insert the appropriate number) isn't that a bit like Football Manager? You are employing a system where you have almost informed the opposition of what you are going to do.

I believe Carlo, loves the type of player like Richarlison, who can virtually change to any number in the front line and therefore making him difficult to keep tabs on. Maybe I'm misreading something here but I believe, he has similar future plans for Dominic who has shown a glimpse of his versatility.

The future's Bright, the future's Blue!

Paul Hewitt
20 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:38:17
Strange isn't it when your striker is told to stay in the box, and he starts scoring. Not rocket science.
Daniel A Johnson
21 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:43:37
Dominic has often suffered as a result of trying to work too hard for the team. Chasing lost causes and harassing defenders which often pulls him out of the danger zone.

Someone on here suggested he needs to be more selfish and be more Kane like hanging around the 18-yard box ready to strike and pounce.

His main criticism on here has been his lack of goals; well, they are starting to come now. He's our top scorer and with half the season left he may get even more.

He has everything in his locker to be world class; let's hope it continues.

Gaute Lie
22 Posted 30/12/2019 at 11:50:49
His goalscoring abilities are getting far better as he progress in age and maturity. He is hardly if ever injured. No bad drinking or attitude stories.

What is there not to like now about Calvert-Lewin?

If Ancelotti is doing shopping now in January, I more hope he goes for a boss in the team, a driving force. Hopefully a creative midfielder to replace Sigurdsson, Walcott, Schneiderlin, or others.

And a new centre-back. Sell Mina as he is injury prone, a liability for cards, and not scoring the goals he was being bought for in the first place.

Joe McMahon
23 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:04:32
Yes Roberto got us Lukaku, but Goodison for years was the graveyard for strikers. The Moyes system didn't help but with Ancelotti there is a plan. The Newcastle win was very astute and Dominic will only get better under this manager and his coaching team. I'm also hoping Pickford will improve and Holgate and Richie have been very impressive for a few games now. Improving Tosun may be a stretch too far.
Tommy Carter
24 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:04:36
@16 Tony. Thank you.

To some of the others. I enjoy nostalgia too.

But success for our club now must be manufactured from new. Trying to ‘recreate' the team from the mid 80s is what it seems some fans want. Yes, that level of success can be recreated, but the component parts are completely unique.

It's a strange mentality that seems to exist amongst some fans.

Let's embrace our current squad and the opportunity to improve it. We have a world class manager. Not another Howard Kendall. Ancelotti, a completely different character with a completely different background. But still, Word Class.

We have young players with lots of potential. DCL included. Not only potential, terrific character also. Between the ever willing attitude of DCL, utter confidence bordering on arrogance from Holgate and the positivity of Davies to keep trying to make things happen we have a spirited core to our team. Who've cost us next to nothing.

It's qualities like this that can be the recipe for future success.

Not trying to replicate Kevin Sheedy out of Kieron Dowell or Sharpy out of DCL because they have comparable attributes.

Dick Fearon
25 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:04:40
we each have our own idea of how Domenic could improve his game and mine may be no better or worse than the rest.
Defenders can only react to what the attacker does. +
DCL allows defenders to dictate. I suggest he makes short powerful runs off the ball combined with rapid changes off direction.
Teamates on the ball should anticipate his likely movements and time their delivery
to where he's going to be. He does not yet have the upper body strength to hold off robust defenders which is why movement and speed is most important.
Rob Hooton
26 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:11:45
You can see Dom growing in confidence and stature on the pitch and long may this continue.
He is also at the age where he will gain strength by naturally ‘filling out', he has always been super fit but might now gain a bit more muscle and be a proper nightmare for opposing defenders!
We potentially have the makings of a very good front 3 if they develop in the ways we all hope.

As an aside, manager of the month Dunco Fergelotti? Between them things have gone brilliantly so I thought they both deserved it 😀

Martin Berry
27 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:17:37
He has genetically everything in his locker to be a top striker and at international level, I have always believed this and nothing has made me change my mind.
He is a young man trying to develop as a striker, under four different Managers bringing in a lot of change and different formations. He has been deployed mainly as along striker or on on the right side of a midfield, this has been a tough baptism, however now the lad has been given some help up front he is creating chances and knocking them in.
Well done DCL, you have a fantastic future ahead of you.
Dale Rose
28 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:19:56
Always thought he was a very good player and tremendous worker but lacked the strikers bite. Past few games have proved me wrong. He now has confidence and it's showing.
Tony Everan
29 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:23:06
Dominic has had a lot of work to do in the last 2 years as a lone striker. has he ever moaned?, shirked? or shied away from the task. Never. Instead he has worked his bollocks off through tough times and desperate situations, through poor managers and unhelpful formations . He helped the team immeasurably to get through those tough times, I salute him for it. With extra support up front from Richie or Kean, it is benefiting DCL no end. He has a bit more space, a bit of a fairer a contest against defenders who have more to think about. It is no surprise he is picking up more goals.

What a brilliant attitude this lad has, he is formidable with the mental strength of a lion. A couple of months ago I wrote a fan article about the club giving him a new improved long term contract. I am sure that is a work in progress now. Whatever system we play in the future , throughout a season DC-L will always be an asset and we need to make sure he is here for the long term because of that.

As he matures he is gaining on his already impressive physicality. Defenders are bouncing off him this season, he was brilliant against Chelsea. This upward curve will continue. Also his scoring is improving along with his overall technical skills and passing. He also has the intelligence to continually learn, improve and the single minded desire to achieve his goals.

We are lucky to have Dominic Calvert -Lewin and a bit of praise should be also given to Duncan for helping him to be the best he can be.

Dave Williams
30 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:32:21
Tommy- I don't think anyone is trying to replicate the 80s team. There is nothing wrong with drawing comparisons between players or teams to illustrate how a player might be developing. Doing so doesn't mean that the player will never be recognised in his own right. We are merely drawing on our experiences of players we have seen to illustrate how we think Dom is progressing.
Brent Stephens
31 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:34:42
A good, positive piece. There's a lot to be positive about at the moment. If Dom and the other youngsters can keep progressing, and some of the more experienced players keep rediscovering their previous strengths, then the future is bright.

Joe #23 "Improving Tosun may be a stretch too far". You never know but that would be a long stretch!

Jack Convery
32 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:38:54
"Dunc came in, changed the atmosphere and we got results against big teams. We've kind of continued the momentum and got that togetherness back in the team". There's the EFC problem in one - against big teams - WE ARE A BIG TEAM its this plucky EFC nonsense that has our striker referencing others as big teams, when he's playing for one of THE BIGGEST TEAMS. I'm happy DCL is enjoying December, as we all are but it has to be carried on now into January and beyond. WE ARE A BIG TEAM that has been let down too many times lets hope this time THE BIG TEAM IS BACK IN THE BIG TIME for good.
Tommy Carter
33 Posted 30/12/2019 at 12:39:43
@ Dave.

I don't get it though? I am really lost with it?

What has the development of a Scottish striker signed in the early 1980s for a club in a league that no longer exists in an era of the game with a completely different set of rules and strategies got to do with Dominic Calvert Lewin in 2019?

Might as well compare Fraser Hornby with Dixie Dean.

Tony J Williams
34 Posted 30/12/2019 at 13:38:15
He is learning and is moving better.

2 months ago for his 2nd, he would have been on the shoulder of the defender or running to the near post, instead he peeled off to the rear setting up the tap in.

Still isn't the answer but a better part solution than before.

It also helps that he has a forward next to him now, so when he wins the headers, they will possibly go to someone, not just straight to the oppos goalie

Jay Wood

35 Posted 30/12/2019 at 13:56:19
Personally, I don't see any ill in describing a modern day player as displaying similar qualities to a player of a bygone era. Perfectly legitimate to me and is used in all walks of life, not just with footballers.

Doesn't follow that it is demeaning to the modern day player or that (in this example) DCL is being labelled Graham Sharp Mk II.

It does strike me as absurd, though, to try to counter otherwise by saying you might as well compare Fraser Hornby with Dixie Dean. That's just plain daft.

Alan J Thompson
36 Posted 30/12/2019 at 13:56:43
Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs, of all the co-incidences, we get one of the world's leading managers and he links up with two young strikers he's been chasing but unable to sign for years, and they've been hiding on our bench. Koeman and Silva must be crying into their compensation.
Jason Broome
37 Posted 30/12/2019 at 14:10:58
@ Tommy Carter no. 6

Who did I compare DCL to?

Do you even read other peoples post before adding your own?

For me, at present the true number 9 and best striker we have is Richarlison. Same age as DCL, same passion and work rate but better in the box, better finisher, better control, better composure and a true cult hero in the making.

A team with ambition requires a target man to possess goals and the qualities worthy of wearing the hallowed No. 9.

For some fans that shirt comes with a high degree of talent and responsibility when leading the line in every game. For others sadly, it's just a shirt.

As I said before I'm happy for DCL but unlike most DCL apologists I'm not going to get carried away with what he did 2 years ago at Man City or a slight up turn in goal scoring form. For now i'm remaining cautiously optimistic.

Peter Mills
38 Posted 30/12/2019 at 14:22:42
Tommy#33, I sometimes make references to players from the past, not necessarily to use them as a like-for-like comparator with a current player, but to try and provide some perspective.

So, like others, I have seen some things in Dominic over the past couple of years that have reminded me not only of Graeme Sharp, but the young Joe Royle. It has looked that there is a very good player in the making, so long as he is provided with support and, most importantly, adds aggression to his game.

Now aggression does not mean what it did 35 or 50 years ago, as you say, the game has changed. It does not mean putting elbows into defenders, but it does mean attacking space in the penalty area, just as it did for Sharp and Royle. So, having seen former players develop that aspect of their games and become great players, it does mean you have a bit more patience, knowing that things can suddenly click for the young lads playing now.

I believe Mason Holgate and Jonjo Kenny fall into the same category. Mason has a self-assuredness about him, he is a natural footballer, but he needs to concentrate at all times. He could be as good as Kevin Ratcliffe, but I am not comparing the two directly. I am hoping and expecting Jonjo will return from Germany to play for us for many years.

It's also worth remembering we have had players like Peter Eastoe and Barry Horne, older players who were written off as awful (in truth, they were for a while) but who became decent performers for us. So, Sigurdsson for example, a very good footballer who has been struggling for the past 12 months, could yet become a key player for us.

So, I agree, we are not trying to recreate the past. But remembering lessons from it may help to build the future.

Tom Bowers
39 Posted 30/12/2019 at 14:43:07
DCL is not the finished article by any means but if he keeps finding the net one way or another who cares.
Walcott used to be able to score a few but alas is becoming a back number despite still having some speed.
I would like to see Kean given a few more starts with DCL as the lad does have talent and maybe under the new regime can come good.

If they can get the other two injured midfielders back soon then this team may indeed be something to reckon with.

On another note is everyone getting sick and tired of VAR ruling out marginal offside goals ? By marginal I mean the width of a toenail.

Isn't it time to change the rule so that it is only called back when there is clear daylight between the players?

Bryan Houghton
40 Posted 30/12/2019 at 14:56:56
Give him the time he needs to develop.

I've watched DCL and his 2 peers, Tammi Abraham and Domonic Solanke play thru the national 'Under' teams over the last 3 years. All developing different skillsets at different rates. Personally I never saw what Tammi, and deffo Solanke had to offer. They probably had it in training, but none could do it on match day, DCL inc.
I think T.A's finishing this year has obviously improved quicker than DCL's, and but when DCL catches up he will be some player. A beast. (That said, if TA lays muscle on like DCL has, he will become as unstoppable as Drogba!!) As for Solanke-don't know, don't care.

Robert Tressell
41 Posted 30/12/2019 at 14:58:29
Peter I'm not sure what will happen to JJK. Doing well in Germany. Maybe champions league next year. I guess we'll keep sidibe because the purchase option is cheap and coleman seems unlikely to move on. Sad, because we should probably have made more effort to keep him. Very good attitude. One very interesting option if we're short in midfield would be to recall dowell for last chance saloon. Long shot but who knows
Mike Gaynes
42 Posted 30/12/2019 at 15:08:05
Tom #39, I've been saying for months that the VAR problem isn't VAR itself, it's the interpretation of the rules -- not just on offside, but on accidental handball as well.

Regarding the former, we're never going back to the "clear daylight" days, but to me the obvious rule change is one suggested by Robbie Mustoe and others -- foot position. Never mind where your shoulder or head or ass is in comparison to the defender... if your foot is beyond his, that's offside. Simple rule change that would resolve a lot of this chaos.

Peter #38 and Robert #41, we have three fine right backs and only need two. It could resolve itself -- JJK might decide he loves Germany and request a transfer, or Sidibe might want to return to France -- but ultimately the new manager will decide who best fits the style he wants to play.

Ray Roche
43 Posted 30/12/2019 at 15:44:22
Mike, JJK seems to be doing well at Schalke and, with Seamus getting older, I can see JJK coming back to take his place in the team. A guy I know who owns a hotel in Düsseldorf is a big Schalke fan and thinks JJK is a cracking player. I can see him and Sidibe forming a good partnership next season, if Big Sid stays.
Jay Wood

44 Posted 30/12/2019 at 16:03:30
JJK stated earlier this season his long-term ambition remains to establish himself as a first-team player at Everton.

Ancelotti has already played Coleman and Sidibe in tandem as Ray alludes to. He needs to be back at Finch Farm next season. Future captain material for me is JJK.

And I agree with Mike Gaynes on VAR. The different ways national federations are interpreting the existing rules is the greater problem.

I suppose one argument in favour that ANY body part being offside is because a player could score with said body part. To counter that, the offside calls are being made against said offending body part WAY from goal and it is an extremely remote likelihood that a player could go on to score with his dipped shoulder or tip of his nose.

Weighing it all up, I agree with Mike that in VAR calls it should be calibrated to only the foot of the body should be looked at in the tight calls and called offside.

Alan McGuffog
45 Posted 30/12/2019 at 16:37:07
Modern football baffles me. Who would have thought that playing two centre forwards might produce more goals than just playing one on his own ?
John Pierce
46 Posted 30/12/2019 at 16:56:46
So how much is Dom improving, how much is the system and tactics evolving to suit his strengths?

We are unquestionably more direct, in the air looking to win 2nd balls. By that very nature Dom takes a player with him and Richarlison and Kean have also looked far more dangerous too. It's reciprocated too.

Why have we gone long? Well we don't have a midfield. The options we have are limited and are not suited for ball retention and the figures since Silva's departure seem to point that way. Less possession etc.
Our best passers are actually our full backs, Digne, Baines and Sidibé appear to be the creative fulcrum.
The more direct nature would suggest Dom remains within the width of the penalty box and stays centre forward. We are also just getting more shots at goal. That mix certainly generates more efforts at goal and service for Dom. One thing we know is generally he was converting his chances but under Silva was starved. So was the finisher already there and we've just given him more chances or has he stepped up?
The test for me will be once we begin to control games and have better passing midfielders. We will be less direct and perhaps create less but more presentable chances. Will his conversion rate be the same?

Ajay Gopal
47 Posted 30/12/2019 at 17:00:45
I always big up our youngsters and dream big things with them. I have defended our young guns against criticism here (some justified, but mostly not):


Not to forget, Beni Baningime. I saw him play (on TV) a couple of seasons ago, and thought that he is an absolute Rolls Royce of a player, effortless on the ball, and very very composed. I don't know what happened last season, but it has not gone well for him since. I heard that he is out injured presently, which is unfortunate, otherwise I am sure he would have a role to play in the midst of our midfield injury problems this season. Hope he comes back to the level that he can play - David Unsworth always waxes lyrical about young Beni, and I can't wait to see what Carlo can turn him into.

Then, we have Richarlison, Kean and Mina (who is not that old), and we have the nucleus of a very young, exciting team.

Brent Stephens
48 Posted 30/12/2019 at 17:20:15
Ajay, Beni was doing well until he had an injury about a year ago (??). Since he's been back at Everton after a loan period he's been regaining his old strength and pace and has been playing very well for the U23s. He was on the first team bench recently, I think. Possibly injured again but I'd love to see him come through. Sat by his dad at the U23 away game a few weeks ago against the rs - proud as punch he was!

Jerome Shields
49 Posted 30/12/2019 at 18:09:52
Calvert Lewin has worked hard on his fitness and game, often alot harder than others. He will continue to progress, since he is prepared to put the work in.
Roger Helm
50 Posted 30/12/2019 at 18:23:24
I have been bigging up Dominic for a long time and I am delighted that things are working out for him - a manager who believes in him and a team set up for him to score - no more flogging himself around as a lone striker 30 yards away from the rest of the team.

I think he has one of the best goals/ pitch minutes in the league now and MOTD recently highlighted how he is beginning to bully CBs. I think he now needs to work on his shooting from range - this is the one thing that Harry Kane is better at.

With two strikers really good in the air it surely makes sense to play more direct and get more crosses into the box.

Tommy Carter
51 Posted 30/12/2019 at 18:43:57
I'd like Baningime and Kenny to be removed from the discussion.

DCL and Davies have bright futures ahead of them at this club.

Kenny and B.B. don't.

Annika Herbert
52 Posted 30/12/2019 at 19:25:06
Have to disagree with you there Tommy@ 51. On what do you base your assumption that both Kenny and Baningime have no future at Everton?
Was it not you who said Kenny would be lucky to get anymore than 6 games with Schalke? Apologies if I have that wrong. Whilst I am not so sure about Beningime, I am fairly confident Kenny will be a big player for us in the not too distant future.
So I just wonder what you base your statement that neither player have a future with Everton on?
Dave Williams
53 Posted 30/12/2019 at 20:02:42
Beni has a lot of work to do I think. Personally I thought he was better than Gueye when he last played and can't figure out what has stalled him unless it is all down to injuries. If he is given a chance he could still make it but there will be a lot of players fighting for CM places who are currently ahead of him.
JJK is different. He is making a big impact in a physically and technically difficult league and should be our RB for years to come with perhaps Sid ahead of him in wide midfield. I thought it was a huge mistake loaning him out in the first place but it looks like it's working so what do I know!!
Billy Dawber
54 Posted 30/12/2019 at 20:24:03
Paul Hewitt comment 20. Spot on. I remember a certain Bob Latchford. A great goalscorer when he was in and around the box but a shit player outside. He got 30 goals by being what we used to call a goalhanger. Hate to see a striker out on the wings when they should be in the middle of the box waiting for the ball to come to them. Not rocket science and glad someone else has pointed this out. We've got enough runners / wideplayers to give DCL the ammunition just to stay in the box and put the ball in the onion bag. The modern game sometimes frustrates the hell out of us old fashioned supporters when it can be played so simply without all of the scientific jargon these anaylists come out with. Happy new year to all the blueboys all over the world. Hope 2020 is going to be a good one for us.
Tommy Carter
55 Posted 30/12/2019 at 20:29:58

I base it on my own opinion. To which I am entitled.

You disagree. Your opinion. Which of course is fine.

It was indeed I who quoted an amount of games for Kenny at F.C. Schalke. I'm not sure if it was 6. However, clearly I got the amount of games wrong.

Kenny for me, has been up and down this season from my own observations. He scored a great goal but his limitations when defending are abundantly clear. The coverage on his performances is often sweeping and general. I've watched half a dozen entire games and my assessment is based on this and everything I have witnessed from him in an Everton shirt.

If he does become our RB for years to come then we will not have reached the level to which I aspire. Which is Champions League / elite football.

But I get accused of Kenny bashing for expressing a view on him. He's a sensitive subject for many on here, for some reason.

When I expressed similar views on a 22 year old Magaye Gueye there was nowhere near as much derision.

Shaun Laycock
56 Posted 30/12/2019 at 20:36:54
The boy's got all the tools (and will pick up a few more) to be a top Prem centre forward. He seems to have the right attitude too. Got a decent, young spine of the side developing...DCL, TD, MH, JP.
Dave Williams
57 Posted 30/12/2019 at 21:50:55
Tommy- I don't think anyone will try to say you were wrong about Magaye Gueye. Overweight, no fight and we might as well have fielded ten men in that cup semi final when he came in after the Drenthe played silly buggers with Moyes.
Awful player!
Tommy Carter
58 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:03:59
I just don't think he's a very good player. At all.

Many on here seemingly do and see him as a future right back in a presumably successful Everton team for years to come.

I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong

Cristobal Aguirre
59 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:08:48
I am glad for DCL. I always criticized him for his lack of goal instinct, but, at the same time I recognized his work rate. Hope he become one of the top striker in the world. COYB
Hugh Jenkins
60 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:17:24
Jack (32) - Well said!

The first thing we have to do is get our players realising "WHO" they are playing for.

The rest should follow automatically.

Jim Wilson
61 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:20:55
Since Siggy was pulled from playing just behind DCL, Dominic has flourished.
And Siggy has played better in his deeper role.
Also great to see Coleman playing with Sidibe.
And great to see Baines getting a game.
Things that would never have happened under Silva.
Basic stuff paying dividends.
Mal van Schaick
62 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:34:21
I'm glad that we kept faith with DCL, and I hope Ancellotti keeps faith with Moise Kean who is still learning and seemed to link up better against Newcastle.

Ancellotti is still bedding in and finding his feet with the current squad, I'm sure he will work out who to keep and who to bin in the next few months.

Exciting times ahead if this time, Brands gets his act together.

Stephen Brown
63 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:53:34
Man Utd linked with £50m move for DCL according to papers tomorrow!

Graham Coldron
64 Posted 30/12/2019 at 22:57:05
The Mail and the Sun are banging the DCL to Manure drum now.Utter utter shite of the highest order.
Tony Hill
65 Posted 30/12/2019 at 23:00:26
Yes, you'd certainly prefer to play for maestro Solskjaer than Ancelotti, wouldn't you?
John Keating
66 Posted 30/12/2019 at 23:07:11
It's a pity JJK is getting a bit of stick
He's played every game for Schalke this season.
A few German lads I have worked with seem quite impressed with him as, more importantly, is his manager David Wagner.

If we look at every team that's won things, including Everton, I doubt any team is full of top top players. It's always been about how players fit into the team rather than individuals.

If we look at our own right backs that I've watched who have been league winners, Alex Parker, Tommy Wright and Gary Stevens. I doubt any of them would ever be classed as world beaters, but, fitted into those particular teams they were brilliant.

JJK like DCL, Holgate and Davies is a young lad learning his trade and will hopefully come back far better prepared to slot in if required.
Remember it was not that long ago that those 4 young lads helped get us out the shit when the "established" professionals were crap.

Dick Fearon
67 Posted 30/12/2019 at 23:28:16
I am a bit surprised no support for Moise Kean has been made here.
Give that lad as much first team exposure as given to DCL and he could be another Lukaku. He alreadyt has a whinging loud mouth dad.
Mike Gaynes
68 Posted 30/12/2019 at 23:55:45
Tommy C... I think the opinions on Magaye Gueye were pretty much unanimous from Day 1! Sorry, you don't get any props for that one.

But I do think it's time for you to eat a bit of crow on JJK. You did say six games, and if memory serves I offered you a wager on an over/under of 15, which I believe you declined. Wisely, as it turned out.

Don't know what you saw in the games you watched, but in the ones I've seen he's been quite impressive for a Schalke club that's right in the mix for a CL spot. The club has surrendered only 21 goals, fewer than Bayern or Dortmund, and that's with opponents usually attacking down Kenny's side because he's the rookie. To my eyes, he has held up defensively very well. Also, he's popular with the fans, the media and even the fantasy leaguers:

Whether he has a future at Everton will be determined by Marcel, Carlo and the more talented Sidibe. But I think you're dead wrong in believing he can't measure up in a top side.

Don Alexander
69 Posted 30/12/2019 at 00:07:29
I respect the fact that various TW'ers dislike comparing our players to those of yesteryear but to me its a reasonable way to illustrate how I feel.

In DCL's case I see a player who somewhat resembles Sharpy and, from more recent times, Teddy Sheringham, a consummate footballing forward from whom the likes of Andy Cole, Van Nistelrooy and Solskjaer all flourished.

It's dreamworld to suppose we now have that sort of firepower up front or in midfield but I'm very confident that DCL, with the addition/development of a traditional goalscorer/s, will become a much vaunted "player's player" well before he reaches 30 years-old, as was the case with Sheringham.

How the hell the perennial player-slacker Ferguson has found the means to continue to get the lad to work so hard is to me one of the mysteries of our age.

Paul Birmingham
70 Posted 31/12/2019 at 01:11:31
Jim@61, good points and I agree.

Why would DCL, back a losing horse?

He's Everton and he plays with his heart, needs to get better descision making, but is a latter day, Sharpie and more, in the making.

Good times for EFC.

Jamie Crowley
71 Posted 31/12/2019 at 03:18:43
Derek Knox ALL THE WAY BACK @19 -

I was just saying to the Mrs. the other day.

If I was a DOF or an owner, interviewing a new prospective head coach, I'd ask this Almighty question:

"Do you have a system, and what system do you think works best? Or, would you implement a system after you've assessed the squad?"

If the answer is, "I have a system" or, "I prefer this system".??

I wouldn't hire the guy.

Surely you need to assess what you have at your disposal and then implement a system around your players strengths?

That's Carlo. And that's what has me so excited about him and the trend upwards of the Club.

No blind ideology. No square pegs in round holes.

Only, here's what I got, so here's what will work, let's do this.

Ajay Gopal
72 Posted 31/12/2019 at 03:24:44
If they develop well, a front 3 of DCL, Richy and Kean could be a handful for any PL defence. Perhaps backed up by Iwobi, Walcott and Tosun. It is the midfield which needs strengthening. Sell Schneiderlin and, perhaps Tosun and invest some money and get a world class midfielder, a beast like Yaya Toure, and we could be very solid through the spine.
John Boon
73 Posted 31/12/2019 at 04:59:22
By reading all the previous posts it is interesting, but not particularly surprising to see so many different perspectives. A great article about a young Everton prospect who has improved sufficiently enough to have many think that he could be the answer to Everton's dismal scoring record.I am in the group that think he has a lot to offer and could be part of the answer. However I still view him as a "potential" top striker. He still has a lot to learn but he seems to be aware of the fact that he can improve.

He is now scoring inside the penalty box which means he is now attacking the ball. A top striker also needs to be able to score real blinders outside the box. He also needs to turn half chances into goals. With top coaching and a willingness to learn he has every chance to continue to improve.

I would also like to see Kean given more opportunities to prove his worth. There have been glimpses of some real talent and I think he could still prove to be a winner. While goal scoring has been a problem for the Blues it will not improve merely by getting a striker. Whoever the front two or three might be they will need to link up well together. In order to complete and solve the problem we need an efficient mid field to supply the ammunition.

Perhaps I am expecting too much but we also need at least one tough uncompromising defender. We give away far too many ridiculous goals and often need to get stuck in far more aggressively than we do at the present time.

Bob Parrington
74 Posted 31/12/2019 at 05:11:24
If Manure are reported as being interested in DCL, as they are in Richie, they can go take a long walk over a short pier.

Time to say to these sheisters "NOT FOR SALE. GGF"

Derek Knox
75 Posted 31/12/2019 at 06:18:19
Ray @ 43, good assessment there of both JJK and Sid, I can't see us not exercising the option to buy him, which I understand is somewhere in the region of £11.5M.

The good thing about Sid, and he has proved it, that he has a versatility where he can play both in defence or in midfield/wing.

Although I would say when under pressure in the defensive role, he is a bit prone to giving away free kicks, or not getting back quick enough when challenged by a speedy opponent.

The future's Bright, the future's Blue!

Dick Fearon
76 Posted 31/12/2019 at 06:22:56
We should not put a price on our young guns with our estimate of their worth. To do such a thing would give potential bidders a sum that would be acceptable to fans and allow an easy get out for our board.

Derek Knox
77 Posted 31/12/2019 at 06:38:04
Dick @ 76, it's very much a money oriented business now, and unfortunately money talks. There is also an element of risk with any player who is showing great form. Will he sustain it?

We've all seen players from different sides, playing an absolute blinder or scoring goals for fun, his price rockets, someone buys him, and he reverts back to being 'run of the mill' the Selling Club are made up. The Buying Club are left confused and a lot worse off financially.

Then again it's down to the player himself, if he doesn't want to move, don't force it for Financial Gain.

Drew O'Neall
78 Posted 31/12/2019 at 07:10:34
Mike 42 / Jay 44 - on the subject of VAR and Offside

The measuring point has to be at the hip girdle, which cannot be ‘dipped' (like the chest) and measurement for breach could be automated to inform the officials with the use of body-worn sensors in the future, like the sensors the players all wear currently for individual analytic reporting.

If you measure offside at the foot/feet, simply by the cadence of running next to one another, at any given time a forward's feet will be on or offside of the defenders' despite every attempt to remain level.

John Keating
79 Posted 31/12/2019 at 08:32:27
I think these measuring points are superfluous in the extreme
VAR is to be used in cases of clear and obvious mistakes.
Why we are drawing lines on pictures and looking at armpit decisions is beyond me to be honest
Clear and obvious mistakes can be decided in a second or two.
I still think VAR is a load of shit we do not need and although I personally want it binned it seems those at the top want it so that's that
VAR is ruining the spontanaity of the game for match going fans
Arguing about human mistakes and decisions during and after the game is part of the game and VAR is going to ruin this.
Anton Walsh
80 Posted 31/12/2019 at 08:52:15
The scum newspaper has DCL going to Manure. They really are a sick rag.
Neil Wood
81 Posted 31/12/2019 at 09:11:44
Why am I seeing comments about ''Persisting with Kean'' like he's had a 6 month goal drought etc...

The kid is 19. He clearly has an abundance of talent and it's liker some people have him on last chance saloon.
He is 19 ! Cut him some slack play him and it will come... He is adapting in a new league, New language, new friends, a new country with differing pace of play.

''There have been glimpses of some real talent and I think he could still prove to be a winner''.

He could still prove to be a winner ??? How long do we afford people? He has literally had a few games during which he was inexcusably removed after 18 minutes.
We have all clambered for a world class striker since Lukaku left... This lad has the skill set to be just that but give him a reasonable amount of time !

Jim Jennings
82 Posted 31/12/2019 at 09:23:08
Slightly off topic but to add to the JJK discussion. I live in that part of Germany and have seen most Schalke games this season. He's been pretty solid and has (I think) started every league game.

There's been one or two games where he has had a hard time of it - the 0-3 defeat at home to FC Bayern early on comes to mind - but that's part of the learning curve and let's hope he comes through it stronger. Generally though, he has impressed and David Wagner is a fan.

The Schalke fans I know, work with etc have been pleasantly surprised how well he's settled in. He's playing in front of a good young keeper (club captain and about to join FC Bayern on a Bosman as Neuer's long-term successor, incidentally) and his team mates all speak a decent level of English, which helps a lot.

There are areas for improvement such as I think he tucks in too tight and leaves space out wide, plus he seems reluctant to overlap at times but perhaps that's him playing to instruction.

I'm still not convinced yet that he's good enough to slot into an Everton side with ambitions of top six etc but he still has half a season to go. Here's hoping.

@Mike Gaynes - your comment “ that's with opponents usually attacking down Kenny's side because he's the rookie“ seems a bit strange to me and no offence Mike but maybe that's putting 2 plus 2 together and getting 5.

@Ray Roche - which Hotel in Düsseldorf does your mate own? Understand if you can't or don't want to say but just curious if I've been in it!

Jerome Shields
83 Posted 31/12/2019 at 09:25:00
John# 73

Good point regarding Calvert Lewin attacking the ball in the penalty area. This is obviously part of Ancelottis coaching. Moise Kean in the second half against Newcastle had three shots on target. Again Ancelotti had spoken to him at half time regarding attacking the ball in the penalty area.

Calvert Lewin is also making more intelligent runs, particularly attacking the near post and centre. So is Moise Kean.

Joe McMahon
84 Posted 31/12/2019 at 09:27:16
Neil @81, agree with you 100%. This lad has talent.
Conor McCourt
85 Posted 31/12/2019 at 09:51:09
Mike 68- when he left the feeling was that Coleman, Sidibe and JJK were all on trial to see which of the two would be our RB's for next term. I think with Carlos vision and what ive been calling for Coleman for club and country, all three could be in the squad. Sidibe is much better going forward so its preferable to play him wing back or in right midfield.

Neil Wood 81- yes perhaps we should just give up on Kean like some of the scum wanted with Fabinho or Keita and Utds with Fred. These were experienced players who struggled initially also. I'm sure Chelsea are glad they got rid of that balloon De Bruyne as I'm sure hes done nothing since. When I hear our fans and Arsenals ripping into Kean and Pepe I think how foolish they are going to look in a years time. If you watch both you can see they are struggling with the pace of the game at times both look lost but in other moments you can see their qualities shine through. Once seettled I have no doubts on how good they will be.

Tommy Carter
86 Posted 31/12/2019 at 10:02:23
@82 Jim

Someone with a considered and informed opinion on JJK. Thank you.

The Bayern game was important as it is that level where we want to compete. And for me he was clearly a massive weakness, he showed much of the naivety in his defending that I have seen with my own eyes at Goodison.

The best defending often goes completely unnoticed. When defenders are steaming into challenges and cheaply selling themselves on a massive block attempt, which Kenny often does, then this shows their level for me. And it is not one of a top defender.

I think of it in quite simple terms. Will he be any better than Tony Hibbert?

I do not think he will.

And when we competed against the level just above us, circa 2007-2009, Hibbo was repeatedly shown up in these games as our weak link.

In repeated derby games, particularly at Anfield it was obvious that the LFC tactic was to expose hibbert. And it worked. In an FA cup semi final he was exposed as the weak link and Chelsea got all of their joy down our right hand side.

Hibbo was a great professional and a huge asset to any mid table premier league squad. As I'm sure Jonjoe Kenny would be. But if you want to compete at that next level, these players are found wanting.

Darren Hind
87 Posted 31/12/2019 at 10:04:32
Graham Sharp was/is unique.

Unique in the sense that he didnt just understand his own role. He understood everyone elses too. Not the most prolific goal scorer we've ever had, but when they give out the awards for the best team player we've ever had, his name will be right in the mix. He scored and created goals that won us cups, goals that won us leagues. He gained legendary status by sinking the shite in the most spectacular fashion - On their own midden. He terrified the opposition.
Virtually every forward who played next to Sharp had the best spells of their careers. Comparing Calvert- Lewin to him is a little cringe worthy. It's not long since people (many good judges among them) were saying he simply wasn't premiership standard.. Now he is being compared to an all time great. After scoring eight goals ? Steady on.

Nothing (and I do mean nothing) gives me greater pleasure than to see a young lad come through our ranks and become a regular starter - Which probably explains why I get so tetchy if they are not afforded extra patience. C-L may not be a local boy, but we got him at an early age and we can claim to be the club which has nurtured his talent and developed him. We got him for a song too.

He has proved the doubters wrong. He IS good enough for the premier league, but that is all he has done so far. I expect improvement, the degree of that improvement will determine whether he becomes a top class forward or not.

I wonder what his value would be in todays market ? If Ancelotti isn't just blowing smoke up his arse to build his confidence, then he is already attracting interest. If he can really push on and get between 15-20 goals this season his value can soar. . but let please lets not do the extremes, He is no Graham Sharp, but he is no Championship player either.

He's a very decent player with every chance of become a very good one. With good tuition good attitude and good health. he may even become top draw

Robert Tressell
88 Posted 31/12/2019 at 10:19:30
Well said Neil. Kean is 19, in a foreign country and had a lot on his plate last year being disgracefully picked on by fans and colleagues. This year he's been managed by 3 managers (one of whom had lost his nerve) and the team around him was generally v poor. He is a tremendous talent that needs a bit of time to settle into new surrounds. Henry, vidic, evra etc etc all looked a bit ropey initially - and they were all older and got integrated into superbly functioning teams. Turned out all right in the end. If we want a 25 goal a season developing someone like kean is our only hope unless someone like kane or rashford comes through the youth ranks. We cant afford an established 25 goal striker and without champs league football we cant attract one even if we could afford them
Trevor Powell
89 Posted 31/12/2019 at 10:40:08
Gerard Carey #1 'What a difference a world class manager makes'.
Can I add 'and a rookie Scottish manager with his heart in the club'.

It seems that anyone of us supporters could have got this team more motivated than Silva!

To see Moyes' Hammers' press conference convinces me the BKs sentimentality was totally misplaced. Winning is 'what I do' will line up against his 'Knives to a gunfight' blabber!

Brian Harrison
90 Posted 31/12/2019 at 10:45:21

I think your last paragraph sums up how I feel about Dominic-Calvert-Lewin, " He is a very decent player with every chance to become a very good player".

My main criticism is not so much of the player but of the club expecting a young man learning his trade playing game after game as the lone striker, probably one of the hardest positions for a young lad to play. We should have signed a quality striker for Dominic to play off and learn from. Equally I am even more annoyed that we signed a player even younger than Dominic in Moysie Kean who had to overcome far more than Dominic in learning a new language in a new country and a new team set up. Both of these players may well become our main strike force alongside Richarlison, but I thought the club asked to much of these boys given their age and experience.

Neil Wood
91 Posted 31/12/2019 at 11:19:51
Long shot but does anyone know anyone who has a spare for Sunday ??? I had found someone on Twitter but he seems to have gone quiet !!
Martin Nicholls
92 Posted 31/12/2019 at 11:48:23
John K#74 and Mike G & Jay W - have you seen comments made by Lukas Brud (International Football Association Board) as reported on BBC today? He says that application of VAR is "too forensic" and that those responsible are to be reminded that it is to be applied only in the event that a "clear and obvious error" has been made. He refers specifically to these ridiculous "armpit offside" situations and says clearlyy that VAR should not be used in these instances. Guidance is to be re-issued in February. I think we fans have always understood this "clear and obvious" requirement - it's alarming that those responsible for administering VAR need reminding of it!
Unlike Jay and Mike, I've always been dead set against any form of VAR. That said, I reluctantly accept it's here to stay - this very simple adherence to the "rules" would at least be a step in the right direction.
Nicholas Ryan
93 Posted 31/12/2019 at 12:10:07
Man Utd want Calvert-Lewin; the phrase 'Ancelotti says No' has a certain gravitas, and finality, that wasn't there a few weeks ago!
Tony Everan
94 Posted 31/12/2019 at 14:20:30
It should be recognised and factored in to DCLs goalscoring stats that he doesn't take pens or 20 yrd free kicks. These extra goals for some strikers make their goal tally look better than it really is.
Tommy Carter
95 Posted 31/12/2019 at 17:36:15
Tony @94,

Good point. Although I wouldn't mind if he started knocking them in too.

Tony Hill
96 Posted 31/12/2019 at 17:46:38
We need a new penalty taker. Calvert-Lewin is worth a go or Holgate whose pen against Leicester was emphatic.
Drew O'Neall
97 Posted 31/12/2019 at 17:56:48
Tony - I'm pretty sure it was Holgate who scored a ‘Panenka' in a preseason shoot out too.
Ray Roche
98 Posted 31/12/2019 at 18:01:00
Drew, wasn't that Stones against Barcelona on a pre season tour?
Mike Gaynes
99 Posted 31/12/2019 at 18:04:16
Actually, Drew and Ray, it was Stones against Juventus in San Francisco. My first Everton game in person.
Drew O'Neall
100 Posted 31/12/2019 at 18:09:32
No actually Mike, that's not the occasion I'm thinking of. Stones' penalty was outrageous though.
Mike Gaynes
101 Posted 31/12/2019 at 18:10:32
Jim #82, your informed in-person observations are far more credible than mine on TV. My comment was based on something Wagner said in the press conference after that difficult Bayern game. But I bow to your superior knowledge.

Tommy #86, Hibbo was injured for that FA Cup semi and should not have been on the pitch.

Drew O'Neall
102 Posted 31/12/2019 at 18:15:22
In searching for this Holgate penalty on YouTube I've found he's missed one when the pressure was on in a shoot out for WBA so am reserving judgement on whether he's the right man for the job (I also found the vid where he lost his rag with Firmino so am still a fan!).
Tommy Carter
103 Posted 31/12/2019 at 19:07:33
@101 Mike

He wasn't.

He went off at half time with sun burn

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