Ancelotti to Everton’s fans: Stay together while we work towards success

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Carlo Ancelotti says that with the support and patience of Everton's fans, he will do his best to realise the dream of bringing success back to Goodison Park.

Speaking in his first interview since being appointed as the Toffees' new manager yesterday, the Italian expressed his excitement at being at the club, acknowledged its proud history but also cautioned at it's going to take time to turn things around.

“Well, I am excited, too, to be here at one of greatest clubs in England,” Ancelotti said when he was told how enthused Everton fans were by his arrival. “I'm really excited — I enjoy the the place, the team, the club so I'm here to try to do my best, of course.

“I think this is a club with a lot of ambition, with great history and the squad is good. Of course, I am here to improve the team, to put better quality in the squad and I will try to do my best.

“Our goal is to be competitive in the Premier League, to try to stay at the top of the table and to try to be competitive in Europe. It's not going to happen straight away but I think we have to work for this.

Asked what his message to the team would be, he said:

“The Evertonian has to stay close to the team as they are used to doing. I would like to say to the [fans]: stay together, stay close to the team because for the players, it's really important to have the support of their fans.

“It takes time. It's not going to happen straight away but, working together, we have to try to do it as soon as possible. My dream is to bring success here.”


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Andrew Merrick
1 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:17:19
The man's getting our measure...
He's the man for the job...
Welcome to our world, Carlo!
Andrew Laird
2 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:21:37
Love it. You won't please some, Carlo, just please most!
Alan J Thompson
3 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:23:10
I've got nothing against him and it should be a step in the right direction but haven't we heard this story from every manager starting with Martinez. Or is it the PR Dept yet to catch up with things?
Stan Schofield
4 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:27:31
Alan @3: Cheer up, we've just appointed one of the best managers in the world.
Alan J Thompson
5 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:31:25
Stan (#4); Right, dons funny hat as already have the nose and 2-3-4, "It's just one of dem songs you hear now and then "
Paul Birmingham
6 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:38:19
Rejuvenated, optimistic and genuinely proud and glad to be an Thanks to Duncan Ferguson for deliverance, and now for Don Carlo, to take us to the better places. It will take time, but I'm feeling a sense of being with Everton, I've not felt since the early, and mid 80s.

Hopefully this is the dawn of a new era for EFC, where we create new records, win trophies and no longer be prisoners of our past.

Forget the RS, this is Everton and is all that counts in football.

John Davies
7 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:51:15
Good luck, Carlo.
Brian Wilkinson
8 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:56:25
Good luck Carlo, some tweaks here and there and a dive into the January Market for a proven goal scorer and a centre half for starters will do for me.

The fans are behind you, just avoid ToffeeWeb like the plague and you will be alright.

Darrel Pugh
9 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:57:03
For some reason (and it will obviously be put to the test), this feels like it has the makings of a long-term plan. Can the new manager take a competitive Everton team into the new stadium in 3 years? Is Big Dunc his natural successor? Will we finally get a long-term player strategy that both works and we actually stick to?

These are the long-term questions that the club needs to address and execute on. I hope we have finished with short-term thinking. But football isn't a normal business environment and only time will tell.

Jason Broome
10 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:00:04
Carlo... You had me at 'hello.'
Mike Benjamin
11 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:10:51
Alan #3. Koeman, Martinez, Silva v Ancelotti. Are you sure you are comparing like v like?
Barry Connor
12 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:12:37
Good to see an established manager in place with influence to bring quality players in, rather than gambling with 'the next big thing'. However, we cannot ignore that our league position is dire, so what are his immediate priorities?

A centre forward like Ibrahimovic? A playmaker? A defensive midfielder?

Duncan McDine
13 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:14:23
It's a strange feeling to be an Evertonian right now. On the one hand I'm excited about welcoming the most decorated top class manager I've ever seen at Everton, but there's always that nagging feeling that things will just turn to shit as usual!!!
Alan J Thompson
14 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:15:38
Mike (#11); No, word for word.
Brian Cleveland
15 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:17:09
Firstly, yes I am very happy to have him on board, but I did get the same feeling as Alan #3. The words become like a stuck record, even if the artist is different.

The difference this time is that it is an appointment I support. I wanted none of Martínez, Allardyce or Silva.

Paul McCoy
16 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:28:31
I'm pretty chuffed we have Ancelotti, but the man has his work cut out to a) get the team to not be shit and b) keep the fans onside if we lose any of the remaining games this season.

In all seriousness, glad he's keeping Dunc on the staff. He'll finally be learning from a true great instead of Fat Sam.

Eddie Dunn
17 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:29:50
Brian, nor did I but I honestly don't think we could have dreamed to get a manager of this stature. It's all about timing. Just watching Chelsea lead 0-2 at Spurs with a rookie coach against a so-called great. Rookie ahead.
You never can tell with anyone, but surely if anyone can sort us out, he can.
Ian Riley
18 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:33:24
First time while I've been supporting Everton that we have a manager who comes with a CV that has trophies on it. Alan (#3) the PR department don't need to build up this manager. Martinez nearly relegated Wigan 3 times before finally doing it. Yes, the PR department had to spin it.

For the first time, Everton need to provide the tools for the manager to deliver. The Director of Football needs to earn his money in bringing players in to take Everton forward. Yes, it will take time... but already I feel proud that we could convince a manager of Ancelotti's standing to come to us.

Ancelotti will walk if the board don't meet his ambition. His reputation will come before Everton. It's a new chapter but one that could lead to success.

Pat Kelly
19 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:42:48
Well he got our measure yesterday. The message is don't expect anything instant. Or espresso. But he's willing to take us on and I for one am looking forward to seeing what he builds over the next couple of years.
Fran Mitchell
20 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:44:31
Of course, what he says is not too dissimilar to any managerial appointment, all come in and say about plan, development, ambition.

He obviously isn't gonna come in and say "yeah, but shit are Everton like, 2nd club in the city, living off the success of 30 years ago, top 8 wouldn't be too bad but if we do finish in bottom half, who gives a monkey's, it's only a game ffs, and I ain't gonna struggle to pay the mortgage, that's for sure"

But Carlo Ancelotti is an unbelievable appointment. For ages, when debating potential managerial appointments, the general consensus was 'someone who plays good football, and who is a proven winner' we get the manager who is probably the dictionary definition of that, and people are like 'he's not proven himself at a small club'. Make up your mind!!!

A 'proven winner' or 'Sean Dyche-like'. who is it you want???

Derek Taylor
21 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:46:38
Let's face it, he's only come here for the money. His agent has discovered a mug who will cover him and half-a-dozen members of his family in riches us mere mortals can only dream about.

But I guess, given the chance, any one of us would take Moshiri to the cleaners if the money was burning a hole in his pocket, as it clearly is.

So, although I fear it will all end in tears, good luck to the guy and his flock, I so dearly want them to prove me wrong.

Brent Stephens
22 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:50:41
If all there is to criticise is the cliched words of a new manager, then the new guy (I forget his name) must have something.
Brian Williams
23 Posted 22/12/2019 at 17:55:59
"But I guess, given the chance, any one of us would take Moshiri to the cleaners."

The fact you say that sums up why you've got the opinion you have mate.
Thankfully we're not all the same.

Dennis Stevens
24 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:02:09
At least Ancelotti hasn't started off by saying what a struggle it'll be to avoid relegation!
Brian Cleveland
25 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:05:51
Eddie #17. Totally agree, bit of a crap shoot. I felt though that, had we gone for Arteta, it might have left Dunc in a bit of limbo given that he is no less experienced than Arteta at management level and might wonder what his next step is. With Ancelotti, he will be happy to soak up the knowledge and there is no possible thought in the back of his mind that he has the same level.
Steve Ferns
26 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:10:16
Ancelotti could have gone to Vancouver for Christmas as planned. Somewhere special to him and his new wife, or something.

Man Utd will need a new manager at some point soon. Ole might be at the wheel, but he's driving like a drunk, and needs to be replaced. Maybe they would prefer a Pochettino but they'd have considered Ancelotti for sure.

Chelsea might have all but beaten Spurs, but they have been on a tough run for a while now. Lampard could have found himself below Mourinho if he'd lost when the gap was 12 points on Mourinho getting the job. Lampard isn't likely to lose his job anytime soon, but we all know Chelsea haven't kept the same manager for more than a couple of seasons since they sacked Mourinho.

Carlo Ancelotti would also get the job at Milan, Madrid or in China.

Sure, he's getting paid a shed load, but he'd get paid more in China and as much wherever else he went. The guy has chosen a tough job. These superstar managers have massive egos. He will think he can fix Everton. It's like when you see those great but troubled players (like Balotelli) keep getting moves to decent clubs despite not performing. The managers all think they can fix him. He will think he can fix us.

Joe McMahon
27 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:12:05
Alan @3, yes, we have heard it before, but never from an absolute winner. Remember the 16% who wanted Moyes back or even Unsworth. Surely you weren't one of them?
Chad Schofield
28 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:20:12
I do really hope that this time it works out.

That sounds really negative, and usually I don't like to be negative. However, I see inexperienced Frank Lampard's Chelsea beating won-everything Special One Mourinho's Tottenham 2-0 at half time, at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

I can only imagine the apoplectic response the moment we find ourselves in a similar position... and we undoubtedly will do.

I do hope we don't load the team with mercenaries. I have no idea how we will manage Financial Fair Play. I don't know how we will balance youth and potential versus experience and expected results.

We have been here before, excitedly looking at what might be in maybe three seasons - but all too often with the patience of a 3-year-old.

I don't really see what we could have done differently, outside of the Allardyce mistake... but there were those who feared we were on the brink of relegation then. I was more worried until Ferguson gave us some real bite. Let's see who arrives in January.

My biggest fear is we get in a host of players, older players in, in an echo of Koeman Walsh, but bigger contracts harder to escape the clutches of FFP. We push out the Unsworth and Ferguson's et al in a nouveau riche blitz. We get slapped with an unspeakable transfer ban and we disintegrate within 3 years.

That's all very negative I know... but in a season where Liverpool are running away with it and technology which is meant to level things has just exasperated problems, I'm just not the most optimistic.

We have landed an incredible manager though – and we will all have wobbles, but maybe it's time to really block out the negative nonsense.

Colin Malone
29 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:20:55
Welcome to Everton, Carlo.

Let's hope you're not like a kid in a sweet shop, as Koeman was, when he wasted £millions.

I hope you change the youth set-up by bringing in a continental coach to teach vision and guile, instead of crab play.

Sean Callaghan
30 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:24:01
Derek...I'm guessing that you're not the same Derek Taylor who was press officer for the Beatles? I can only imagine the spin you put on it in summer '67:

"Coming soon, Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Due to the band being skint and contractually obliged to do so, they have had to churn out another album, and frankly it's a bit pants. You know all that fannying around with 'experimental music' on Strawberry Fields (and how did that work out? Beaten to Number One by Engelbert effing Humperdink)...well, there's a whole chuffing album of the crap now. I dare say that some so-called 'fans' will lap it up, but let's face it, it's not exactly proper music, is it?"

Derek Taylor
31 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:27:03
No, Brian at 30, I'd have done the job for 'Moyes Money' and donated the balance to EitC. But then, I've only got one mouth to feed – not half of Italy!
Brent Stephens
32 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:28:17
Chad #36 "That sounds really negative".

Not at all, Chad. You end with "We have landed an incredible manager though - and we will all have wobbles, but maybe it's time to really block out the negative nonsense". In between, and overall, it's a balanced piece which has hope, for good reason, while pointing to some of the possible negative outcomes. At least it's not writing the guy off even before he starts.

Colin Maughn
33 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:28:57
Hiring any Manager is a risk because we don't know how it will turn out. I think, with Ancelotti on board, people will now start to look at the club in a different light. A lot of haters were of the opinion that we were crazy to want him at this club.

What we need to do is give him and the team our utmost support. He will make mistakes sometimes which we will be critical of but, once he can realize that, correct them (not keep making the same mistakes) and move forward, we should see success in some form.

I think having reviewed the games he watched and along with the game yesterday, he already recognizes that we do need to change some of the players.

Derek Knox
34 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:31:27
I, for one of many, am really glad that Carlo Ancelotti is on board and equally glad that Duncan will remain a major part of the 'new machine'. I'm sure Carlo has an idea already of what this Club is about and has sampled the crowd inside the Old Lady.

Although there wasn't a great deal to shout about yesterday on the pitch, he at least acknowledged the importance of the fans, and their contribution towards a successful side.

As someone mentioned before, the so called pundits have mostly suggested this appointment is not the right fit, reinforces my belief that it is the right fit, and I can almost smell the fear in them, that we may just be The Kraken re-awakened.

The next few matches will be interesting, and the Transfer Window even more so, the appointment has come at the right time in that respect, he will have adequate time to assess, which parts need to be brought in, to get the machine up and running properly again.

A lot clamouring for Ibrahimovich, which I am not sure would be the answer, he is in his late 30's and would be a very expensive sticking plaster. I would prefer to get an established younger man who will grow (hopefully even better) with the team.

We also need a rock in defence, preferably one who doesn't get injured easily, and a dynamic midfielder or general. Remembering of course that we are fairly well stocked in that department, but many are injured unfortunately, Gomes, JP Gbamin, to mention two.

I know I am asking for a lot and do appreciate it won't happen overnight, but I hope he still, with Dunc's influence, doesn't totally ignore our 'young guns' and introduces them gradually into the matchday squads.

Or, I fear many, who are nearing the end of their contracts, may just decide to move on, as there appears little or no prospect of breaking in to the first team plans.

Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:43:15
Why aim for one of the best managers in the world, for 'plucky little Everton'?

Maybe the best thing to do would be to tell Moshiri to fuck off, and then we can get Kenwright back, giving David Moyes, ٣ million a year to spend, and another ٣ million in wages to keep us in the Premier League, at dilapidated Goodison.

Gary Willock
36 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:48:17
I believe there are 3-4 players (max) in the dark side that turn them from also rans to trophy winners. 3 came in the same year. We have MUCH more chance of getting that calibre under Carlo, than under nearly anyone else.

Let's roll the dice and go for it. A top left sided centre half, a temporary Gomes replacement, and that illusive goal scorer please.

Jim Bennings
37 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:51:31
If the players can't raise their game some level playing for this man Carlo Ancelotti, then I'd honestly just put them all up for sale in the summer and see how many takers there are.

Ancelotti is no certainty to work out, nobody suggested for one minute it's a certainty, but a man that's been to the clubs he has and has won the trophies he has. That does enough for me, and if I was a footballer I'd be delighted at the opportunity to work under a manager of this ilk.

Ancelotti's CV speaks for itself.

I can understand people feeling that, because he's not used to such a mediocre bunch of players, maybe it will be a shock to the system but the more I've thought about it, I know Ancelotti will be too clever and wise to let this stagnant under his feet.

People say he merely puts shine on top-class players by fine-tuning them with information, so what's to say that he won't make Richarlison a five times better player?

Why can't he bring the very best out of our French International fullback Lucas Digne?

Why can't he get Bernard playing well enough to win back his place in the Brazil team?

That's before we even think of him bringing his own players in, the contacts he'll have, the attraction he brings.

Saying Ancelotti has worked wonders with the big boys so won't suit Everton is like saying we should never have signed Andrei Kanchelskis in 1995, arguably the most exciting player in the Premier League back then, what on Earth were we thinking bringing him to a relegation-haunted Everton?

That didn't turn out too badly, did it?

Brent Stephens
38 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:51:50
Tony, just think that in 2020 we will see in operation a new manager with a world-class CV; possibly a decent signing or two in January; more probably several very decent signings in the close season; work begin on Bramley-Moore Dock.

And my prediction – a win at Anfield after Xmas (ah, "which Xmas?", you ask? – the one next week).

Derek Taylor
39 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:51:51
No, Sean. I'm not that Derek Taylor although I did sit next to McCartney and his lad at the' Watford' Final in '84. He arrived after kick-off and asked me which team was Everton. Honest.
Kevin Molloy
40 Posted 22/12/2019 at 18:58:52
This chap is one smart cookie, isn't he. He'll have been, I think, vaguely alarmed at points in the game when the crowd visibly got on the players' backs, and is diplomatically trying to nip it in the bud. It's marvellous having a professional about the place, just like Howard Kendall.
Bill Watson
41 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:02:02
I know we're short of cover at centre-back and could do with a proven goal scorer but, to me, midfield is the area we most urgently need to address.
Clive Rogers
42 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:04:51
If he wants fans' togetherness, hope he doesn't read some of the posts on ToffeeWeb.
Martin Mason
43 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:05:41
I must admit that it is a devastatingly positive measure that the club has made. We have been lucky beyond belief to get this financial power behind us.

Please, though, Kenwright, put yourself into retirement, you are a millstone around the neck of the club. You need to be replaced by a professional. You've done wonderful things but it is time to go.

Paul Jeronovich
44 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:17:53
This is the best I‘ve felt as a Evertonian since Moshiri bought in. Good luck Carlo.
Derek Knox
45 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:18:09
Martin @ 51, agree totally, and for fear of repeating myself, I found the actions of Kenwright to be sickeningly sycophantic, and embarrassing, being televised on a World Stage. I am of course referring to his fawning towards Carlo almost giving him a hickey, and fondling the man like someone who had engaged an expensive call girl.

Clive @ 50, I wish Kenwright would read ToffeeWeb, never mind Carlo! :-)

Barry Rathbone
46 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:22:58
Smart move, reducing immediate high expectations among the faithful.

I think he realises how horrendous the set-up here has been (and remains) but he has to somehow get a tune out of these overpaid monkeys for the foreseeable.

I'd be delighted if he binned the lot bar Digne and started again, tbh.

Brian Harrison
47 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:24:14
Carlo Ancelotti could have had his pick of teams to go to had he waited till the summer, as was forecast he would when he was sacked by Napoli. But obviously Farhad has offered him a big contract with at least a 4-year contract.

I think Ancelotti wanted to take on this challenge, he knows were we are in the league and where we have finished during the last 5 years. He probably thinks this is one of the biggest challenges he could have taken, but I believe he wants to see if he can build a side from nothing and challenge for honours.

I am sure he would have also asked what funds would be available to rebuild this club, so I am sure he was happy with the assurances that Moshiri gave him.

He will need time and patience and I know Evertonians have been asked for patience from previous managers and it all went pear-shaped. But none of our previous manages could hold a candle to Ancelotti.

Being a blue for a very long time I know that we are afraid to get too excited because when we have thought things are really improving we seem to get let down which makes it harder to get excited the next time we see this happening

But I have a lot of faith in Ancelotti and believe he can put us back competing with the very best.

Terry White
48 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:25:05
Derek (#50), you should be afraid. You ARE repeating yourself. And too often. Let's give it a break.
Steve Ferns
49 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:26:45
Jim, Michael Keane was with him, but not on the clip I saw. He's behaving himself on these ones and indulging in behaviour that all our players got up to on a weekly basis in the 80s. He was much improved against Arsenal and maybe he needs to let his hair down to get rid of the stress? As long as performances do not suffer, who cares?

Edit: Yes Brent, that's the clip doing the rounds.

Simon Dalzell
50 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:28:33
We're all together Clive. Sometimes our opinions vary. I hope he reads the glorious ToffeeWeb. Proper site for proper fans. It's a shame you have such a downbeat view of it.
Sean Callaghan
51 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:35:48
Doesn't surprise me about the Sainted Macca, to be honest Derek. My dad met him a couple of times, many years back, and still speaks very lowly of him.
Colin Glassar
52 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:50:03
Still gutted the Moyesiah didn't get the gig. I was looking forward to all those awe-inspiring speeches of his, eg, “Let's get to 40 points first”, “Let's not get too excited, there's still a long way to go”, “knife to a gunfight”, “Hibbo is world class”* etc.

So I suppose I'll just have to stick with a guy who's won too much in his career and give up my dream of a ginger resurrection.

* I made that one up.

Oliver Molloy
53 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:54:13
One thing is certain, no matter what: this appointment is going to cost Moshiri a hell lot of a lot of money!
Derek Knox
54 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:54:31
Terry @ 57, as far as I am aware I only mentioned it ONCE before, and I did qualify that by intimating a latent apology.

Furthermore, when did you become one of the Editorial Team?

Joe McMahon
55 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:00:30
I'm hoping that Carlo won't resurrect Moshiri's Fab four or Cenk Tosun, Wayne Rooney, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Yannick Bolasie. It's worrying that Bolasie is still on loan.
Clive Rogers
56 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:05:10
Simon, 60, my comment was tongue in cheek really. I love TW and read it everyday especially the variation in opinions.
Simon Kennedy
57 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:11:21
I think if we can score more goals than Burnley in our next match then we could possibly win the game. Also, if the FA award us 384 points for the win, I think we can win the league! Other than that, we may have to give Carlo the time he needs.

Jokes aside, with the position we're in, he needs to be picking up points during the transition period. I agree that at least one centre back and a forward are the immediate priorities in January. If I'm honest, I'd get what I could for Michael Keane and bring in two centre-backs.

Tony Everan
58 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:12:41
The is a calm assurance about Carlo Ancelotti.

The players and the fans will believe him and trust him to make the big decisions. I think he will get a good response from the players and will make signings that will have immediate first-team impact.

I can see us making incremental progress under Carlo's guidance over the next 6 months and, after the summer window, next season, we will be a club transformed.

Paul Hewitt
59 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:25:53
Oliver @65. More like Usmanov
Ian Edwards
60 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:36:28
He mentioned twice about fans sticking with him. I'm guessing he's going to try and scratch results out for rest of this season in an Italian defensive style so it may not be pretty.
John Hall
61 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:40:30
Liverpool will be shitting themselves in January. Or, more likely, Kloрр will throw in the towel and let the U-9s рlay us. :)
Des Farren
62 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:41:27
Let's forget about the past and our history, which won't change. It's done and recorded.

What can change is the future of this club over next 5 years and beyond, and we have, at last, the man who can do this. The best that money can buy. And he's ours!

But, he needs us as much as we need him. We should support him unconditionally. It will be worth it.

Drew O'Neall
63 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:46:39
Dunc had better learn Italian if he wants to ‘soak' anything up.

What a fucking nightmare working environment now all his peers are Italians. He may as well go and work for Juventus!

Robert Tressell
64 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:54:29
Right on, Bill Watson. Clubs are always tempted to buy strikers – but we need a cohesive midfield most urgently. If the midfield works then the attack will score more goals and the defence tightens up. Not many strikers available in January. Maybe Diaz, Belotti or even Ibrahimović. Many more quality midfielders available. And the key is quality.
Thomas Lennon
65 Posted 22/12/2019 at 21:08:34
A proven winner comes to struggling Everton, who seem to be hemmed in by FFP rules and who have an underperforming squad, underdeveloped, underconfident. Why? If he doesn't think he can make the Champions League, why accept the challenge?

One reason, he knows something we don't. Moshiri finally has his dream manager and has clearly said he will back him. Up until now, new sponsorship has been minimal. Expect a big change.

Colin Glassar
66 Posted 22/12/2019 at 21:14:22
Thomas, it has to be the Man from ‘Stan who's behind all this. Moshiri doesn't have the money.
Derek Knox
67 Posted 22/12/2019 at 21:22:18
Simon @ 61, I take on board what you are saying, but it's not that easy to get rid of players these days, what with lengthy contracts, wages and agents etc.

However in Keane's defence if there is one, he hasn't been a total disaster, and is capable of much better performances. I believe Ancelotti and his defensive team should be able to sort out both Keane and the defence, but do agree at least one quality addition is a must, even to keep the others on their toes.

I have read elsewhere that he is an admirer of Piotr Zielinski, currently at Napoli, and the 25-year-old midfielder is stalling on a contract at present (Hmm...) and Unai Nunez, a no-nonsense 22-year-old centre-back, currently at Bilbao, may be available in the January window, reportedly keen on trying the Premier League.

Which leaves a striker, hopefully not a short-term fix in Ibrahimović or Giroud, although at the moment we do need someone, but a striker Carlo knows could do a job for us for years to come.

Steve Ferns
68 Posted 22/12/2019 at 21:36:46
Derek, how can he sort Keane out? The guy is 6 foot 3 inches tall and he weighs over 13 stone. Yet, he was bullied by little weedy strikers.

He has no strength at all. He is slow. He cannot turn. His passing can be woeful. He shrinks mentally at the first sign of trouble. He is a confidence player. He can defend the 18-yard box well, which is why he shone for Burnley, but he cannot defend higher up the pitch unless he has a speedster like Zouma alongside him to sweep in behind.

You either sign a Zouma and keep covering for him, or you cut your losses.

Eddie Dunn
69 Posted 22/12/2019 at 21:55:05
Steve, it's normally a problem with aging defenders getting done for pace or on the turn once isolated away from their own goal. However, as you have put it, Keane is a truly awful player. Yes, of course he can win headers in the box. It is shocking how he was scouted and the many defects were overlooked.

He was certainly found out playing for England. He was sometimes unfairly the scapegoat, as Maguire had made errors too and a lack of midfield cover cost them both. Hence Everton's recent obsession with two holding midfielders.

It was great watching the Chelsea back three of Tomori, Zouma and Rudiger. They kept Kane and that twat Son quiet. Height, strength and pace.

Tom Bowers
70 Posted 22/12/2019 at 22:00:54
What needs to be done will be done and if Ancellotti doesn't want some of the existing under-achievers then they will be let go by the end of the season. Everton have too many slackers or should I say those that don't measure up.
One or two may go in January but it's understandable that once he has run his eye over some of them then he will ask that they be shown the door.

His first priority is to get a back four that is mobile, can gel together and be dependable when they need to be.

I am still not sure about Holgate as a reliable central defender.
He was at fault for the first Foxes goal the other night.

It would be a real bonus if he could muster some good performances during the next month.

Derek Knox
71 Posted 22/12/2019 at 22:01:58
Steve F, appreciate what you are saying, but I did say in his defence, if there is one.

It was another Koeman & Walsh frivolous unresearched purchase, based on him being okay for Burnley, and yes you are right with a Zouma type player alongside he does look better.

I am fairly confident that Carlo knows who is available and what they can do for us, the January Window will be an interesting one, to say the least.

Paul Tran
72 Posted 22/12/2019 at 22:03:00
Handsome is as handsome does in my book.

I'm excited at the prospect of a manager of this quality joining us. And yes, I'm wondering if he's past his best, if he can turn this water into wine and buy us some new vintage bottles. Ultimately, I'm glad we've got someone with his track record.

Is that hard for some people to take? It might be currently fashionable, but we don't all go for this binary bullshit of adulation or negativity.

Jay Wood

73 Posted 22/12/2019 at 22:24:31
Paul @ 73.

"Ultimately, I'm glad we've got someone with his track record.

"Is that hard for some people to take? It might be currently fashionable, but we don't all go for this binary bullshit of adulation or negativity."

Amen to that, Paul. All the more so that Carlo has yet to take a single nano second of training or an actual game as Everton manager yet.

John Pierce
74 Posted 22/12/2019 at 22:33:56
This appointment should be lauded. Whilst it's taken too long for our Board to finally pay for a manager with a good track record it's certainly one in the eye for those who believed we couldn't attract a high-calibre candidate.

Too many have thought too small and limited themselves to a fate of everlasting mediocrity. Maybe the Board has to this point thought the same?

It should be clear if we can attract a manager of this type, players can be gotten too.

Despite Carlo's words, I fully expect an upturn in our results, maybe not style but that will come.

He is calm, affable and has a huge presence both from his playing career and managerial achievements. There's no doubt he can handle the ‘Park Enders and the Everton Da's questioning why Niasse will play right back!

He will undoubtedly get support where others would be lambasted; that will buy him time.

Come on, Carlo!

Derek Knox
75 Posted 22/12/2019 at 22:49:47
I can just envisage now, come the January transfer Window, like a scene from 'Oliver', where Carlo dressed like the austere Mr Bumble, and instead of Oliver, he has about ten Everton players, in procession.

All chained together, thumping the ground with his staff, and singing, "Boys (and men) For Sale" "Boys For Sale"! The shopkeepers and street folk disappear indoors or out of sight.

Only Mr Sowerberry is interested, as cheap labour for his funeral processions, be cheaper than horses, and easier to feed he thinks!

On second thoughts, "Take 'em back to the Workhouse, Mr Bumble"!

Tony Abrahams
76 Posted 22/12/2019 at 23:00:05
Derek, that little sketch where the late, great Evertonian, Leonard Rossiter, gets his head down in the coffin, uttering the words about it being “really quite comfortable” definitely helped me get over my fear of dying!
Robert Tressell
77 Posted 22/12/2019 at 23:03:39
We seem a fickle bunch re Michael Keane. Was shit, then he became good (alongside Zouma), then he became a bit of a hero because it turned out his foot was falling off when he was shit. Now he's shit again.

I agree with the comments that he's a confidence player. In the right set-up, he's pretty decent. Obviously best suited to 18-yar- box defending – and we're better than that. But a good quality 3rd choice as demonstrated by quite a few England caps.

The trouble we have all over the pitch is a collection of players suited to different systems and not especially well suited to each other. Just a couple of very good quality additions could change all that. (And a timely return to fitness for Gbamin!)

Jerome Shields
78 Posted 22/12/2019 at 23:11:27
Speaking to my nephew, a Chelsea fan, who said, of all the recent Chelsea managers, he thought that Ancelotti's team produced the best football. That's good enough for me.

I think Ancelotti has the expertise to iron out the weaknesses of Everton's current play, which would be an essential foundation. We all know that it will take time to sort Everton given the transfer debacles of previous managers prior to Silva and the risk of having to break injury-prone players since.

Being an Italian, a leaky defence will be a no-no and possession a must. If he can sort these two areas, it will be a great start.

Ancelotti may also change the current perception of Everton as a career move.

Bob Hannigan
79 Posted 22/12/2019 at 23:25:26
I loved big Dunc as an interim gaffer but recognized that he had a limited tenure due to his lack of “FIFA credentials”. That said, I hope one day he returns to lead Everton.

I've only been an Evertonian since 1999 so my club history is limited. Since and including Walter Smith, I believe our gaffers have been mostly acceptable to quite good but hardly on the level of Ancellotti. Let's start fresh and give him a bit of space. He wants what we want: silverware. COYB!

Dominic Tonge
80 Posted 22/12/2019 at 23:33:31
Firstly, Welcome aboard Mr Ancelotti. I wish you luck, as I am sure we all do.

This to me feels like a very good appointment. I am 38, which is a terrible age to be a Blue, I was too young to properly appreciate us being brilliant, saw a tiny glimpse of success with our FA Cup win, and then have seen false dawn after ring-fenced money, after destination Kirkby.

For anyone who says Ancelotti is only here for the money... Yes, nailed it. But so is literally every professional football manager and coach, by definition. Dyche, Moyes, Jesus, Nuno, Emery, Jose, all take a wage. The only difference from normal is his wage is massive, but then so is his CV.

Is Ancelotti the right man? Dunno, but having taken managers from Watford, Southampton, Wigan and North End, one of Europe's elite is a definite change. He has managed huge players, massive teams, rabid fan bases, harsh media scrutiny, he has seen it and dealt with it. Successfully too.

He will, come January, get on the phone to players and be the name they work under. He will have some real clout, he's football royalty.

He garners respect too, a lot of individuals who he has managed refer to him in glowing terms. And he was a good player too, so he knows that aspect of the game.

It's more a case of are Everton right for Ancelotti, and the answer is, sadly currently no.

Bit sad really, we are languishing near the bottom of the league, we have a slightly unbalanced squad, out of one cup competition. But – and here's the but – we are finally looking like we want to be ready.

Planning permission has gone in for the new ground after a successful consultation. We have spent some money, and we now have more saleable assets regards players than we have had, we have money to spend, and if the rumours regards a certain Uzbeki steel magnate are to be believed, we will soon have a lot more.

I genuinely was happy about Ancelotti Not "meh", not "weeeell it's okay I guess and who knows it might be good", but happy that the club had actually gone by the ethos of the club, it's motto.

There is no argument regards a better CV among those available. He was the best. We will hopefully be moving into the best available ground, rather than spray-painting the running track blue, or spray-painted murals, or new flags along the Bullens Road stand.

I'm all for this. If he can't get a tune out of Everton, then he won't be the first or the last. But I tell you what, I believe he's got the best chance in a while of doing something special. It's time for us as a club to step up and act like we are a massive club again, be the best.

We have a cracking fan base, passionate, knowledgeable, and patient. We all loved watching Big Dunc on the sidelines, and Carlo Ancelotti knows football, so, if we give him time, back the team, and turn Goodison back into an absolute bear pit, then I think he will get us. And that's important.

Forza Don Carlo; forza Everton.

Tom Dodds
81 Posted 23/12/2019 at 00:41:01
I wonder, if we'd've kept Idrissa Gueye and Kurt Zouma, would we have needed this fella !?

I know, we will never know.

Mike Jones
82 Posted 23/12/2019 at 00:42:54
Steve Fearns @68. I'm 6'0' and 15 stone and I'm better than Keane.🙂. We should all give Ancelloti 18 months. After all he will still have 3 years left. This is different for us. I think an Uzbeki may be involved somewhere...
Mike Jones
83 Posted 23/12/2019 at 00:44:01
Steve @68 *Ferns no slight intended fellah
Jim Harrison
84 Posted 23/12/2019 at 04:22:18
I love this. Lampard's Chelsea beat Jose's Spurs. Therefore Lampard is now the master and Jose is past int. by which logic, Dunc is better than Lampard!! Never mind that Lampard has been in charge of his team for longer and that they have been more successful so far this season than spurs!?!

The next level people have taken it to is mind boggling. Because Lampard is now better than Jose, because if one result, we should be worried because a less experienced manager beat a more experienced one in a single football match. Therefore, appointing an experienced manager is a risk!!!

Let's face reality. Carlo isn't turning Everton into Real this season or the next. But hopefully he can make a decent fist of turning this season around and get us into the summer transfer window looking healthier.
All this about him only being able to manage at elite clubs, does that mean average managers can only do well at average clubs? Therefore, we should recruit someone average because that's where we are???better to be disappointed by someone we expect to be be disappointed by than by someone who could offer more. Or maybe, just maybe, an elite manager, who has had genuine success could, maybe, help get us back up and competing.

Alan J Thompson
85 Posted 23/12/2019 at 06:24:57
Ian(#18)&Joe(#27); I'm pleased we've aimed high as there are not many managers out there, never mind available now, with Ancellotti's record and Ian it isn't the PR Dept building him up although they may have had input and Joe, no, I wasn't one who wanted Moyes back but what we are hearing is obviously how the job is sold at the interview. The Project, one of England's most historically successful clubs, with great support, new ground on the horizon and while we will make money available for transfers we need to qualify for all the big cash cows, sorry, most sought after titles and competitions.

I'd prefer something along the lines of; a new manager is expected to bring instant change, there's a lot of hard work to be done first, players and staff to settle into new procedures but we are in a position where we must hit the ground running while seeking almost constant improvement.

Just as bland but it sounds more honest.

Alan J Thompson
86 Posted 23/12/2019 at 06:36:56
Oh, and he could have added, "Forza Azzuri" or whatever Royal Blue is.
Gerry Quinn
87 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:13:30
Carlo's first action on Monday?

Sort this dickhead out.

Jimmy Digney
88 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:21:14
What is it some of you people really want? A manager who has won probably everything there is to win. What are you doubters trying to dig up now, ffs? (Don't we have enough losers taking the piss... Carragher, Charlie Nicholas, Merson, Sourness etc???)

Make no mistake about this appointment: he is the real deal. Klopp took just on 3 years to get a team in his image, so the losers out there give the man time. He has a lot of shite to move out, punching the air only lasts for so long, then your technical and managerial skills need to come to the fore. Calm down, calm down and enjoy...

Allan Board
89 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:24:48
He doesn't strike me as a shouter, more a thinker who gives player's a job to do, a way to behave and expects them to do it. An expectation to do it for the team and it's system. If you fail to live up to that expectation, for whatever reason, you will be surplus to requirement.
Serial winner's don't tend to be over sympathetic.
As for Pickford, we'll, he is the polar opposite of Peter Cech
Derek Knox
90 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:29:46
Gerry, wouldn't surprise me if he was driving after that too!

Don't know how much CA looks in to what 'his players' (sounds good that) do when away from the Club, they are human after all, but being filmed 'pissed' and distributed to all and sundry, by Twitter/Twatter or whatever can't be a good image for the Club.

Furthermore, it doesn't set a very good example to young fans, who may idolise him, and look up to him as a role model!

Or am I showing my age, and this is acceptable in this day and age?

Paul Smith
91 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:34:05
Interesting take on his time at Napoli on ESPN seems the club took leagal action against its own players and they lost 6 on the bounce.
Jim Harrison
92 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:41:38
Gerry 87

Apart from being the lamest pint downing ever, what's wrong?
You don't even know what he is drinking!

Derek Knox
93 Posted 23/12/2019 at 07:46:39
Jim @ 92, IF, that was a 'soft drink' and had that effect, we want to know what it was, as we could all save a fortune on ale! :-)
Gerry Quinn
94 Posted 23/12/2019 at 09:33:41
Jim, this guy has a very unprofessional way of using his time off - see previous idiotic events in Sunderland, etc. He just comes across as a lame dickhead like Barkley and Gascoigne!!!!! On the pitch he doesn't seem too professional either. I am old school - by all means enjoy yourself, we all have, but never forget that nowadays, as a supposed professional, you are going to go on somebody's frickin mobile...
Clive Rogers
95 Posted 23/12/2019 at 10:00:20
I would imagine that Carlo's first impressions of Saturday's game would be players like Davies and Richarlison lose the ball far too often, Sigurdsson never got in the game and our two strikers never get a shot in or threaten the goal.
Jim Harrison
96 Posted 23/12/2019 at 10:11:45
Gerry, the old school??

Like Kendall, Keane, Robson, Mgrath?

I think we should get over it. Pickford drank beer, possibly. If he sucks on Boxing Day complain.

Steve Ferns
97 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:09:24
Don Ancelotti's first press conference: Link to Official site

If we are going to call him the Don, then surely we can get it right. It was Don Corleone not Don Vito or Don Michael.

Derek Knox
98 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:31:14
Steve F, saw the press conference on SSN, thought Don Carlo handled it well. I liked when then the journos asked about funds for Transfer, he diplomatically avoided any mention of what he has been told is available to him.

Equally he did not take any bait on who his targets were, but reading other sources it's amazing on who we have been linked with.

Although caution must be the key word as we don't want to be seen as a cash cow, as we have in the past, and got very little to show for it in terms of quality.

Steve Ferns
99 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:33:00
It is Don Carlo, did some reading on it. Apologies.

The interview was great. Ancelotti seems to have understood how the fans "pushed" the players and says he will play football to suit that. Came across great I thought.

Ernie Baywood
100 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:36:08
To be fair, Steve, the title Don should be used with a first name only.

They might not have done that in the Godfather but, unless one of us is part of the Mafia, we don't know really know whether or why they break that rule.

Edit - missed your second post, Steve.

Brian Harrison
101 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:47:47
I know this is not related to the thread but I think Gary Neville deserves a lot of praise for what he said about racism. Just a pity Sky decided to distance themselves from his comments.
Paul Tran
102 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:53:34
Hear, hear Brian. More people should speak out about this. Being a good person has nothing to do with 'political correctness'. Racism should be called out and condemned at all times.
Steve Ferns
103 Posted 23/12/2019 at 11:59:43
Ernie, it's Americans isn't it? I remember when the Glaziers took over Man Utd and they kept talking about Sir Ferguson, instead of Sir Alex or Sir Alex Ferguson.

They can't get the hang of Sir = first name and Lord = surname or place.

So they probably cocked up and went with Don Corleone instead of Don Vito.

Stan Schofield
104 Posted 23/12/2019 at 12:04:54
Carlo came across very well in that press conference. Ultimately it's performances and results that matter but, in that press conference, Carlo looks to be an authoritative and statesmanlike personality.

Perhaps we will finally start getting rid of a problem that's been a big one at Everton for a long time, the mental fragility and lack of winner's mentality that have often made us look like a rabbit in headlights. That would certainly be a good start of great things to come.

Paul A Smith
105 Posted 23/12/2019 at 12:15:51
I enjoyed listening to simplified answers from Ancellotti and also think Moshiri has just spoken the most sense he has spoken since arriving at the club, when he spoke to Talksport today about recent times.

I think he was also respectful to Silva in his words about luck and fans patience. Absolute spot on to be fair.

Steve Ferns
106 Posted 23/12/2019 at 12:29:41
Paul, he seemed to be saying that the fans turn on the manager after two successive home losses and that the young managers cannot handle it. Well I don't think he will consider Allardyce or Koeman to be young managers so he has to be talking about Martinez and Silva.

This was interesting to me, and betrayed the frustration that he is surely thinking:

“Well, it was supposed to be 5% of my time, not 95%. I think it's just a very, very, one of the most difficult clubs. We don't have the financial base but the fans expectation is huge. I think this miss-match somehow needs to be resolved. We've put a lot of money in to give the club a platform to match fans expectation and sometimes, it's just too much for a young manager that's why we hope an experience manager can cope and deal with it better.”

What exactly does he mean by saying we don't have the financial base? is he trying to quell expectations that we will not spend big? Has Ancelotti really come here to carry on the way Silva was, with shipping out the deadwood before brining in new players?

Now, that does not make any sense with the manager who we just appointed.

Kevin Molloy
107 Posted 23/12/2019 at 12:57:01
Very revealing, that interview from Moshiri. Explains a lot. He was sold the club on the basis of minimal involvement. I can only take from that that Bill must have said, "You sort the finances, I'll run the club side."

I like the way he has exempted himself from blame for the series of catastrophic decisions he has made, and the massive financial cock-ups all on his watch, and is putting the blame for the state of crisis at the club firmly on the fans' shoulders.

But yes, what does he mean, "We've got to square off having no money with the fans unrealistic expectations"? Does he not realise that, in the last 48 hours, he has bet the farm on spending another massive wedge (which will be necessary just to keep Carlo happy, let alone the fans)?

I can only think he his shooting from the hip because Uncle Alisher has had to take over and he is now firmly on the naughty step.

Jay Tee
108 Posted 23/12/2019 at 13:26:36
Both him and the Team can have all the time in the world so long as they show effort. If this happens then, come what may, the fans will be behind them. Play without effort as seen in the last 2-3 seasons, then they won't retain support. It has sometimes been better to try to have a sleep at Goodison than watch the wretched tactics unfold.
Dave Abrahams
109 Posted 23/12/2019 at 13:41:16
Clive (95), let's be honest here, how was Sigurdsson selected as captain? One of the most ineffectual players all season picked as captain, along with Tosun going on as substitute and the energetic Kean left there, along with Bernard. It didn't make much sense to me.
Jay Wood

110 Posted 23/12/2019 at 14:19:18
I thought the club presser with Carlo was pretty much standard fare with no great revelations.

I would be interested to know who the individual journalists were and who they represented because one of them failed to hide his incredulity that Ancelotti has chosen Everton, echoing a popular theme many across the media are trying to project.

I liked his droll response to the question if Zlatan Ibrahimovic is on his shopping list: "Zlatan is a good friend, but he is finished now in the United States and I have no idea what he plans to do. He is welcome to come to Liverpool. But only for a visit! Not to play!"

The most interesting and relevant comment he made was about Moise Kean, saying what a fantastic season he had with Juventus and that he and Napoli tried to sign him in the summer, but Everton beat them to it.

He spoke sensibly about how difficult it is for a 19-year-old to adjust to a new country, league and culture. Gives me hope that in Carlo Ancelotti Moise Kean now has the best possible manager at Everton to help establish him in our first team.

TBH, I found Farhad Moshiri's interview on TalkSport more interesting. Listen to it here (main photo of Big Dunc with a smaller circled photo of Carlo and Farhad. Click the play button below).


He spoke of just how important a lift Duncan Ferguson gave the team and the club in his four games, giving Moshiri possibly his best couple of weeks in his time at Everton.

He believes we have a good foundation and with the wiser head of Carlo, together with the passion of Duncan, we can start improving things on the field.

But as Steve Ferns noted, he made very reserved comments about finance, so don't expect another spending spree in January.

Frank Wade
111 Posted 23/12/2019 at 14:24:01
Dave #109, Sigurdsson is captain of Iceland and an experienced player. As regards being inneffectual. The Silva system, as you are well aware, was based on holding possession and working the ball up the wing. If no opportunity to cross arose, it's back through midfield, for transfer to the opposite wing, or back to full back, across the back four and up the other wing. Sometimes, it's back to the keeper for a hurried clearance and loss of possession.

So inneffectual under the Silva system. I've watched Sigurdsson closely when TV pictures allow and he works really hard to get into little pockets of space just off our striker, but the Silva system did not include passes to him, even though the pass is on. When the opposition have possession. Sigurdsson is the hardest working 'presser' in the Everton team. In my view, a worthy captain. On Saturday, he covered a huge amount of ground in the midfield and granted there was not much joined up passing, but that was as much down to a hard working Arsenal side as our own shortcomings. I'd love to see the Opta stats on ground covered. I watched Man City the other night and their running, chasing and harrying when Leicester had the ball was remarkable, way above our levels.

Stan Schofield
112 Posted 23/12/2019 at 14:33:56
Frank@111: That last sentence is true of this season, but not of last season under Silva. We often played a high-press very effectively, in many games controlling possession (albeit ultimately lacking goal-scoring punch despite that control up to the final third). Gylfi scored 15, and had a very good season. He was particularly effective in midfield alongside Gomes and Gana.

We don't lack fitness or energy levels, but we have been lacking good organisation this season. When there's good organisation and the team is a good unit, the running and general effort are far more effective, the ball being made to do more of the work.

Gana has been a big loss.

Dave Abrahams
113 Posted 23/12/2019 at 14:51:56
Frank, well as a very experienced player and captain of his country I expect a lot more off him, much, much more than I have seen off him all season. Can't he do anything off the cuff, use his instinct and anticipate where the ball might go, for all the hard work, you say he does Frank, he achieves very little if anything.

Last season, when he was playing better but nothing special, Icalled him the ‘nearly man' he nearly wins a tackle, he nearly gets a pass straight to his man, he nearly gets theball under control but it bounces away from him. If anything he gets in the way of other players and they both lose the ball to the opposition, he wasn't missed at Old Trafford, when a patched up team played very well and could have got a victory, he slows the team down.

For such an experienced international player he did little to inspire the team on Saturday, as the captain you might of thought he would be going all out to impress the new manager, he wouldn't have impressed his best friend with that performance.

Now for his good points, his dead ball expertise, I haven't seen much of them either, as someone said to a really outstanding footballer “ Where did it all go wrong” maybe the answer in Siggy's case is, “ Not long afterhe came to Goodison”.

If he doesn't improve significantly I can't see him lasting long under this new, and hopefully, demanding manager.

Charles Barrow
114 Posted 23/12/2019 at 15:19:00
Clearly there must be 5-10 million reasons per annum why he took the job. But unlike Koeman (who I think came solely for the money and couldn't care less) I feel this could be a great appointment as Ancelotti surely had plenty of other clubs who would have paid the same for his skills. And, most importantly, with his CV he won't want relegation or mid table mediocrity to sully it. So I think he's put all his effort into the job, unlike some managers we've had.
Jay Harris
115 Posted 23/12/2019 at 15:31:42
First a question of etiquette:

In Italy it is normally correct to call someone by their surname unless and until you know them really well. So Ancelloti would be more polite than Carlo or Don Carlo.

Secondly I thought Moshiri was far too generous to Silva although his points were factually correct about the injuries and absence of required acquisitions. Maybe he was just trying to justify his absurd pursuit of Silva in the first place. Also Bill must have thought Xmas had come early when Mosh said he only anticipated minor involvement. Maybe the bell has only just ring as it did with Paul Gregg and not Moshiri has realized he cannot trust the family silver to Bill.

I also hope they haven't conned Ancellotti by telling him funds will be available and then attaching conditions to it like you have to sell to buy.

Tony Hill
116 Posted 23/12/2019 at 15:34:39
Moshiri may be talking down our buying power in order to avoid being screwed. I hope that is the case.
Paul A Smith
117 Posted 23/12/2019 at 15:55:46
Steve 106 I have only read the highlights of the interview and knew it was from Talksport.

He may just be trying to say our hands are tied to go crazy on spending but look at the red shites latest deal with the japanese fella and its good to see clauses can be met at good cost for an international.

Martin Mason
118 Posted 23/12/2019 at 15:58:01
I love it when he says, We don't have the financial base, but the fans expectations are huge. I think this mismatch somehow needs to be resolved. Also that any manager is 2 home defeats away from losing the fans.
Jamie Crowley
119 Posted 23/12/2019 at 16:09:33
I think this development in our football Club is one that is fascinating, for me at least.

Someone above said that his red mates said Carlo wouldn't come to Everton. Honestly, I was with the reds on that score - I never in a million years thought Ancelotti would come to Everton. Nor did anyone in America would be my guess.

Steve Brown, on another thread, pointed out to me that the Yanks who “joined up” in the Moyes years have a different perspective of Everton, and he was spot on.

I've only lived with plucky little Everton. I know they've been successful in the past, but haven't seen it with my own eyes, nor lived through it.

This feels like a massive change for Everton, to me, amplified by my Everton experience.

Age brings wisdom. And all the contributors who are a bit longer in the tooth see this as a return to a rightful place, as Steve Brown so eloquently explained to me. I hope we get there for all whom have lived through this quarter century of mediocrity.

One thing is for sure, from my perspective. This is weird. It's.not a hire where we think we bring in a bright, up and coming manager who can get us there possibly. This is a warhammer thrown down basically saying, “We're sick of the experiments and waiting. We're here, get the fuck out of the way.”

I truly believe we're going to shake up the footballing world in the next 2-3 years. So all you old farts out there - enjoy the ride. ;0) I'll be the Yank pip-squeak in the back row cheering in a high-pitched voice.

It really is exciting times. Don Carlo. Who'd a thunk it?

Dave Abrahams
120 Posted 23/12/2019 at 16:25:51
Jamie (119), why have you put yourself in the back row? You're as Everton daft as most of us, get yourself down nearer the front, I could do with another loon sitting next to me at the moment, getting dirty looks from people around me on Saturday because I was giving the team plenty for the abysmal performance from many of them.

If they take the cheers for their good games then they can take the stick when they stink, and they stunk the place out on Saturday, three games in a week or not.

Darren Hind
121 Posted 23/12/2019 at 16:43:41

You are always so respectful and polite when you post, but I bet you can give it out with the best of them when you see players dropping below minimum requirement.

Spot on regarding Jamie by the way.

Paul Tran
122 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:07:28
I've only met Dave once, he's polite as he is on here, but the way this team plays sometimes brings out something in all of us!

And Darren, Trump is spot-on for Boxing Day!

Raymond Fox
123 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:07:58
He's correct in what he says about staying together, he's not going to wave a magic wand over our players on Thursday and make them world beaters. In fact we know what Burnley will bring, exactly what we don't like playing against, two big bruisers up front waiting for balls in the air.

He's here for the long term and he obviously needs time to put his stamp on things. Who knows… we may be wonderful and play them off the park, but I'm not expecting miracles just yet.

Ed Prytherch
124 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:08:01
Drew 63 thinks that Duncan will have to learn Italian to soak up Ancelotti's knowledge. I think that Ancelottti will have to work harder to understand Dunc.
Mike Doyle
125 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:11:00
Hope the new fitness coach Carlo has brought in knows what he's in for. We look one of the most sluggish teams in a league where Klopp's team has set a new benchmark.
Tony Hill
126 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:14:53
Yes, Mike, I wonder what magic juice Klopp gives his players. There's all sorts of stuff available these days.
Steve Brown
127 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:16:32
Jamie @ 119, you are a top blue as far as I am concerned. You've had the tougher job staying passionate about the blues because you haven't had the fortune to see them winning leagues and cups. Your love of the club shines through.

I always read your posts as they are fair, balanced and positive despite the wringer Everton put us all through. It improves my mood to read them actually.

Gerry Quinn
129 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:23:42
Jamie - this includes you, Mike G, and all of the other fanatics "over the pond" who were "born and chosen"

Evertonians are born not manufactured, we do not choose we are chosen, those who understand do not need explanation, those who don't understand do not matter

Gerry Quinn
130 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:26:46
That poem is still painted onto the floor of my garage in the house I sold in Katy, near Houston, recently. Yael, the Mexican who bought the house still wears the Everton jacket I gave him... and still talks about them.
Mike Gaynes
131 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:39:22
Jamie #119, I actually did think he would come, but as you know, I'm a starry-eyed idiot.

Darren and Paul, Dave is certainly a true gentleman in every sense, but having had the cherished experience of sitting next to him for 90 agonizing minutes at Mordor last year, I can tell you there is definitely a volcano of fire under that politeness.

Gerry #130, that's priceless. Love it. And Texas misses you.

Paul Tran
132 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:46:29
Absolutely, Mike, enjoyed talking to Dave & Steve so much I forgot about the actual match!

Didn't even consider the likes of Ancelotti, but I knew it wouldn't be Moyes!

Incidentally, I was trying to connect with you on LinkedIn yesterday. Apparently I can't without joining the paid-for option, which I'm not! Over to you.

Gerry Quinn
133 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:48:49
I MISS TEXAS, Mike - it's fuckin freezing here in Scotland!
Mike Gaynes
134 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:52:14
Paul, you and I were the only two who knew it wouldn't be Moyes. I was absolutely certain from Day 1 he wouldn't be back, and said so repeatedly. I would have had to hide under my desk for a year if I'd been wrong.

Just tried, but I can't even find you on LinkedIn to connect. Found 4 Paul Trans, but none in Scotland. I'm not on the paid version either, but we should be able to at least see each other. Odd.

Mike Gaynes
135 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:54:07
Condolences, Gerry. But while the temperature may be way lower in Scotland, the average IQ is definitely way higher.
Paul Tran
136 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:02:50
Come on Gerry, it's warmed up the last few days!

Mike, apparently if you type in Paul Tran Highland, that finds me!

I was going to agree with you about the IQ level in Scotland, but it dropped when we moved here!

Mike Gaynes
137 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:09:06
Paul, got ya spotted. Fine-looking fella with distinguished hair! But I can't connect or message with you either. Must be LinkedIn's well-known Cheapskate Restriction. Ah, well.
Jay Harris
138 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:13:47
And you can get a purer version of moonshine in Scotland Gerry.

I always had it in my mind you were in Georgia not Texas but Happy Hogmany all the same.

Paul Tran
139 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:20:55
Just sent you an invite, Mike!
Tony Abrahams
140 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:24:09
It sounds to me that it has been Duncan Ferguson, and not Bill Kenwright, who has finally made Farhad Moshiri realise what Everton football club, is really all about?

A Billionaire from Monaco, buying a club whose stadium had holes in its roof, off a fella who used to have holes in his shoes, probably couldn't understand why he had spent so much money and yet nobody was happy, and then he saw the main ingredient that has been missing from Everton, since before he bought us!

It sounds like only the stadium can bridge the financial gap, but I love to hear the words mis-match, because he's now aware of how much the club means to the people, and hopefully a world class manager can make us competitive until Everton can get over FFP?

Paul Tran
141 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:30:40
Tony, he's just seen the difference between hot air/bullshit & action.

And I hope to God he's scouring the FFP rules. I keep thinking about Ancelotti building a great Everton team and then finding out that we're the first PL team to be severely punished under FFP rules! They'd throw the book at us wouldnt they?

Hope Farhad's doing his homework!

Mike Gaynes
142 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:35:21
Tony #140, that's what he said in the Echo:

"We have discovered Everton in the last two weeks. I've had my most enjoyable time with Duncan and feel really grateful to him. This is the club. We need to keep this. That's the most valuable aspect of Everton. Not hollywood. This passion, the celebrations with fans and manager together. Carlo is a real football man. We hope with Duncan next to him we keep the passion and build on it."

Moshiri has had his money in the Prem for more than 12 years now, so he certainly knew about the club's tradition before he bought us, but the crowd noise the past couple of weeks has shown him what's truly possible.

Paul #141, that would be Brands' job.

Tony Abrahams
143 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:28:20
I think that one of the main reasons for life's failures, is that you can tell people until you are blue in the face, but they can't take on board what you are saying, until it's either to late, or they have actually seen it with their own eyes, and thankfully this seems to be what Duncan, has made Moshiri see?

He's stopped dreaming, and started seeing things the way they are, "singing, we are the boys, that make a lot of noise, and we didn't want that Divvy Moyes!"

Bob Parrington
144 Posted 24/12/2019 at 01:07:09
Carlo - welcome to Everton!

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