Pereira out of the running for Everton post

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Vitor Pereira has taken himself out of contention for the vacant Everton manager's role amid speculation he was the favourite to succeed Marco Silva.

The 51-year-old was reportedly in negotiations with the Blues with some outlets like Sky Sports claiming that the club hoped to have him in place by the time they travelled to Old Trafford for Sunday's clash with Manchester United.

However, Pereira, who interviewed at Everton in 2013, is also in talks with SIPG Shanghai over a new £25m-per-year contract, has withdrawn his name from consideration.

"It's always an honour and I am utterly grateful to be considered on a list by a club that I have so much respect for," he told Sky Sports News.

"At this point I am still the coach of SIPG a club close to my heart in a country that is growing immensely in football.

"Currently I am not in a position to make any other commitments. I cannot decide now I need time to think and plan my future by looking at all the options I have."  

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Mark Brennnan
1 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:22:10
Brian Williams
2 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:25:20
So much for Sky Sports News. Lesson to anyone who believes a word they say in the future!
Les Moorcroft
3 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:26:41
Come on down Dithering Dave.
Graham Coldron
4 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:28:01
Looks like he was offered a massive wedge ( even by Chinese standards) to stay put.The speculation relating to Moyes will increase now along with the others.
David Pilkington
5 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:28:49
Good, what we don't want is a manager that moves from one club to another for fun, he'd be another Silva. Let big Duncan have it until the end of the season then take it from there. Can't afford to fuck up the next appointment.
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:34:43
I don't think they'll go for Moyes, I'd imagine if that one was a goer then it would have already been done by now.

The board are probably too fearful of a backlash if they went and brought Moyes in again.

I'm guessing that it's erring towards Big Dunc until after Christmas at least, maybe until May although judging by Benitez's comments last night on Monday Night Football he's open to managing Everton, a thinly veiled hint dropped.

Joe Ainsworth
7 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:35:13
Absolute result. Five clubs in six years including China, Saudi and Greece? No thanks. Moshiri's football knowledge is non-existent, he's too easily led by outside forces (i.e. self-interested agents). Kenwright's mawkish influence is toxic, he's too easily swayed by his terminal sentimental streak. They stuck the Director of Football on the board so why don't they let him get on with directing the football???
Graham Coldron
8 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:39:39
He began his statement with the words "In this moment..."

Dodged a massive bullet there, eh?
Steve Jones
9 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:40:54
That means Pereira doesnt think turning us around will be that easy an achievement so he's staying put and taking the cash. Not good news.

Big Dunc can do the same job Moyes or any of the unemployed journeymen would. Makes no sense to put someone else in if they are not going to bring in some new ideas and evolve the team. Dunc knows he doesn't have the skillset to do that at the moment.

Jay Wood

10 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:41:25
Relieved. But also concerned.

Relieved because he simply didn't strike me as a good fit as to what we require right now.

Concerned because he confirms we have definitely been negotiating with him.

I hope the alternatives are of better quality.

Lyndon Lloyd
11 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:43:24
I really wasn't all that concerned by the talk of Pereira – classic Sky Sports noise (Sky Bet, anyone?) on one side and an obvious mate-doing-a-mate-a-favour play on another to get his client a fat new contract. Still doesn't get us any closer to a manager but I suspect this isn't going to be an easy one so hopefully Dunc keeps picking up points in the meantime.
Ryan Holroyd
12 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:46:52
Everton just used as a negotiating ploy by Kia Joorabchian
Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:54:00
Unwanted loser rules himself out. Great news.
Brian Wilkinson
14 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:54:20
For the time being, I am happy to go along with Dunc on a match to match basis.

Not sure about dodging a bullet, smart bomb more like.

Neil Carter
15 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:54:38
In this moment, thank f**k for that!! Just need another moment for Moyes to be counted out too!!
Dave Williams
16 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:57:14
What he said does not confirm that he was talking to us. Looks like agents at work here to strongarm the Chinese club.
I doubt that Duncan lacks confidence in his abilities to do more. He struck me as playing down his chances to safeguard his job if someone else comes in.
I do hope he gets at least the rest of this year- we will need his motivational skills against Leicester and RS and I'd prefer to tackle them with Duncan rather than some new guy who is trying to get to know the club.

Stephen Karnes
17 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:57:32
Dunc till the end of the year then get Benitez in.
Robert Tressell
18 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:57:59
It obviously feels like a slow process for us but expect the club is sorting things out with actual candidates who did not include the very average pereira. Spurs got lucky because mourinho engineered the sacking of the excellent pochettino. Arsenal are taking their time too. Its what often happens even if you more or less know who the replavement is. Watford moved quick to get the never popular nigel pearson. We'll be ok.
Jack Plant
19 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:58:30
For the record I would also like to rule myself out. NEXT
Jimmy Hogan
20 Posted 10/12/2019 at 17:58:51
£25 million a year. Nothing else.
Paul Jeronovich
21 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:01:02
25m - end of.
Martin Mason
22 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:03:08
Good, another potential Silva/B2S's removed from the reckoning. I believe that Everton will function best with a British Manager if necessary promoted from within.
James Marshall
23 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:03:23
To be fair, I'd also take the £25m a year over the Everton job right now.

Seems like a sensible bloke if you ask me

Daniel A Johnson
24 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:10:36
Used us for a pay rise good riddance...…...hope we never cross his path again
Iakovos Iasonidis
25 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:11:22
Thank god
Daniel A Johnson
26 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:13:17
The Emery links scare me shitless. Especially when you consider the lack of respect and bad discipline in the Gooners squad that got him the sack. Apparently such was his status he was even mocked and laughed at.

Good manager Laliga maybe but not one for us no no no.

Bill Watson
27 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:17:10
Thank goodness for that!
Raymond Fox
28 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:21:28
I'm big on Dunc. I think he can do an excellent job, he surely has enough nouse after the time he's spent in football. He need not be on his own in that department anyway.

Maybe he doesn't want all the pressure and shit that goes with the position though, who knows.

Trevor Peers
29 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:22:13
Looks like a mercenary, acted like a mercenary, therefore he's a money grabbing mercenary, we dodged a bullet with this chancer.
I'd keep Ferguson in the job for the time being unless we start losing heavily, which I doubt, I think he will do just great.
Mike Gaynes
30 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:23:54
Ron Marr
31 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:26:31
That's a relief.
Tony Everan
32 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:28:25
Very upset at this news, I will be crying myself to sleep tonight. It's such an earth-shatteringly, devastating blow that we won't be getting Pereira.

Jer Kiernan
33 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:28:37
@Daniel 26
You are onto something, I think Emery is a good coach but probably a bit of a dick, We should defo pass on him also, if the behaviour of Xhaka is anything to go by and others he doesnt have respect, a fundamental for a manager

I will start off the Dunc comparison's here and now but can you IMAGINE any glorified show pony disrespectin our blue jersey in a similar manner with the big man in the dugout !!!

Doesnt bare thinking about, Tactical nouse is one thing but not having the respect of the dressing room is terminal, I think Henry suffers a similar affliction (good enough for him though the cheatin fecker!)

This guy (Perrirea) is not going to succeed in the PL simple

Jer Kiernan
34 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:28:37
@Daniel 26
You are onto something, I think Emery is a good coach but probably a bit of a dick, We should defo pass on him, if the behaviour of Xhaka is anything to go by and others he doesnt have respect, a fundamental for a manager

I will start off the Dunc comparison's here and now but can you IMAGINE any glorified show pony disrespectin our blue jersey in a similar manner with the big man in the dugout !!!

Doesnt bare thinking about, Tactical nouse is one thing but not having the respect of the dressing room is terminal, I think Henry suffers a similar afflication (good enough for him though the cheatin fecker!)

This guy (Perrirea) is not going to succeed in the PL simple

Soren Moyer
35 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:29:10
Hell I would take 㿅m a year over ANY club in the world! Now Emery says he is interested ffs! Please god NOOOOOO!!
Steve Ferns
36 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:29:54
If we appoint Jardim, Gallardo or Marcelino then we've got a better man. Only one of them is in town to talk. The other two have jobs. With the rush of betting I fear Moyes will be appointed and that worries me. I also think this job is far too big for a novice.
Peter Neilson
37 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:44:06
Can see Duncan being in charge on Sunday. Get something out of that game then maybe he stays but would the club back him for the season or game by game? Tricky situation. Having said that United looked great attacking against City, seemed to get their mojo back just in time for us.
Geoff Williams
38 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:44:43
That's Good News but some of the other names also worry me.

James Marshall
39 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:45:51
Before Silva loads of people on here wanted Emery, and some said no due to him not having PL experience and not speaking English. Well now he has PL experience and an excellent grasp of English.

"Good ebening Eberton"

Graeme Beresford
40 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:46:39
Apparently Bill offered him 3 million a year and a part in a panto each Christmas. Not enough apparently.

Martin Mason
41 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:47:08
The DoF position means that you don't need a manager but a coach to keep the players fit and playing to consistent standards and motivated at all times but even that doesn't come from the head coach but from the very top. We should take the risk of DF because even 25MM a year is a risk. Brands as DoF is the Manager and that is where the buck stops.
Anthony Newell
42 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:49:50
looks well shady in that photo (is he clapping his hands or rubbing them in glee thinking about his pay day?)

thank fuck for that

Mike Gaynes
43 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:50:35
Based on the spirited performance Salzburg is putting on against the RS -- way better than ours -- maybe we should hire their Yank manager Marsch.
Bill Gienapp
44 Posted 10/12/2019 at 18:54:00
The idea of Pereira left me totally apathetic. The only appeal, as Steve Ferns and others pointed out, is that he seems to have a bit of attitude about him - that alone would make him more appealing than a wet noodle like Emery.

The biggest fear is that the board acts like they have no alternative and appoints Moyes... similar to when Allardyce was hired. Let's hope Ferguson can pick up some more points in the interim and make it clear there's no crisis.

Daniel A Johnson
45 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:01:19
Emery couldn't get Pepe, Lacazette and Aubameyang to spark.

Well good luck then with Iwobi (lol), DCL and Kean/Tosun

Emery was an abject failure with better players and with more resources available. To think the board are considering him is laughable.

The press have no idea at all, just ignore them.

Brian Hennessy
46 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:04:19
All we need now is for someone else to snap up Moyes so he can be ruled out as well. Although that is easier said than done.

Andrew Laird
47 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:04:49
What “list” is this tool on about? Maybe fucking Liam Neesons on it as well? The sky sky bet sun talksport fuelled this shite to rinse punters! In no way did this bellwhiff talk to Everton, I bet he talked to an agent (or one of the above company's employees) who claimed to be working for them though.

Moyes works for talksport. His mates keep sticking his name in the hat and the flurry of money was because he drifted to 10/1 yesterday so people think their buying money, wedges go on Moyes so his price comes in. That is all.

I hope

Paul Birmingham
48 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:05:39
That's a bullet swerved, and let's hope that the club, is learning from experience, the hard way, that they must pay top dollar and get the next manager of EFC, right, in terms of profile, persona and track record.

No mean fear but that's their job, and second best and yesterday's managers, aren't an option. Failure this time, is not an option.

The board must take stock and look in terms of football, what they want to achieve.

Mike Gaynes
49 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:11:13
Daniel A #45, say what??

Aubamayang had 22 league goals last season and Lacazette had 13. Together they scored 48 in all competitions. This season 18 so far.

Emery had a lot of problems at Arsenal. Getting his strikers to "spark" wasn't one of them.

James Stewart
50 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:15:00
Phew. Mostly likely just a contract ploy as Lyndon mentioned but still worrying none the less.
Colin Glassar
51 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:18:09
Even I'd turn down the Everton job for £25m. Who wouldn't?
Kunal Desai
52 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:24:35
I doubt this is even true, probably was never in the running in the first instance. Media spinning more bullshit in all fairness.
Shaun Laycock
53 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:29:41
Thank goodness...
Brian Porter
54 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:30:52
Thank God for that
Terry Farrell
56 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:43:09
Excellent also hope Moyes announces he is out of the running too
Derek Taylor
57 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:43:46
Fancy turning down the chance to play fourth fiddle at Everton behind Mosh, Bill and Brandy in favour of a £23M contract in China. Although, he might just be kidding as Mosh plans to match the offer.
Gavin Johnson
58 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:46:24
I think he might have been using us to get a pay rise from his Chinese club. That all said, it's great news. He had all the credentials to be Marco Silva MK II
Tommy Carter
59 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:48:16
Are we going to win anything this season? No

Are we going to qualify for the champions league?

On that basis, give Duncan until at least the Brighton game. There are a number of winnable games in there.

Should he collect 10 points in that timeframe. And possibly advance us in either cup competition then I'd suggest he deserves to takes us until the end of the season.

I am completely happy that Perreira is not an opportunity missed.

All managers have to start somewhere. Some work their way through a system, some, including some of the most successful managers of all time have started out with great opportunities near the top of the game.

It so happens that circumstances have dictated Duncan manages us now.

The evidence of the first game illustrated to me that there is much about him that I did not give him credit for.

Our most successful ever manager in his ill fated 3rd spell in charge saw something in Duncan to give him the armband.

If we get to the end of the season, safe but underwhelmed then we have had 6 months to have secured the right man for the job.

Brian Harrison
60 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:53:45
Well while the indecision at board level continues then the speculation from the media will carry on. Tomorrow somebody else will be favourite, I think this also underlines how ineffective Brands is.

Maybe Moshiri has seen the backing that Ferguson got from the crowd and maybe he thinks I will give him a bit longer. But more likely he will bring in an experienced manager maybe with Duncan as his number 2 enter David Moyes.

Jim Bennings
61 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:55:25
Tommy 59

Try telling Duncan we won't have a chance to win one of the Cups!

We are in it to win it.

Joey Crawley
62 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:57:24
If Brands has got any clout left in the boardroom I really hope he sees sense and gives Big Dunc till the end of the season. If we try and poach another clubs manger right now he will be a disloyal money grabbing mercenary who we will have to pay compo for, a big salary to tempt them to jump ship to come to a so called sinking one and we will still not know his capabilities in the premiership as this is the most competitive league in the world, not the place some exotic dandy can just rock up and thrive in. Brands can be the DOF he's supposed to be, go get us the players, go sell the bums, all Big Dunc needs to do is crack his whip, set the team up to win with variable tactics to defeat varying opposition and command the respect of the dressing room, he can do all that and more, it's football not bloody rocket science and nah buggers gunna dinny respect tha glasgee gaffer should he nah want a glasgee kiss planting on his schnozz, right?
John Graham
63 Posted 10/12/2019 at 19:57:44
Was he ever in the running?
Seems to me that he's been pulling a fast one with his Chinese team.
In the interview I saw he never committed to answer any of the questions put to him about the Everton job and just kept bigging everything up.
Think a lot of these managers and agents are wise to the publicity they can get now by being connected to any job going.
Let's see how big Duncan gets on.
May not have been the nicest football but there was effort, grit, togetherness and passion which is a great start.

Nicholas Ryan
64 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:13:49
Just had a crazy idea. Silva was thought to be an excellent technical coach, on the training ground, but a bit useless at tactics, game management and motivation.

Duncan F. appears to be hot on motivation, game management and tactics.


Duncan Ferguson as Manager, with Marco Silva as a Head Coach, back at Finch Farm, doing the technical stuff ….. Simples! [as they say].

Björn Kausemann
65 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:15:55
He ruled out himself ? The best that could happen to us. He was the worse manager a German football club had ever seen. We need a manager from a leading football nation like England, Spain, Germany ore Italy. Winning a title in Greece as Portuguese ? Portugal will never be a great football nation and Greece ? A third class league. We made this experience with Silva.
Mike Connolly
66 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:15:59
Manuel Pellegrini needs sacking fast then we may dodge the Ginger bullet. with him going to the Hammers.
Oliver Molloy
67 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:28:12
Portugal will never be a great football nation ?
Dennis Garlden
68 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:28:29
A bit left field here, but there's a coach in the J League that took unfancied Yokohama Marinos from relegation to champions in the space of 2 seasons. He has an attacking, exciting brand of football, dominated Australia for years and back in 2014 took the Socceroos role a mere weeks before the World Cup after successive 6-0 thrashings and took the team to put in some thrilling performances against Chile and the Netherlands. This guy is a winner, knows how to handle big personalities and believes in a unified club approach from juniors to seniors to create long term dynasties. When he eventually goes to a European club I have no doubt he'll kill it. I'd love that to be with us.
Jack Convery
69 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:32:40
A new play - 10 little applicants. ( based on a non pc idea by Agatha Christie ). Produced by Bill Kenwright.

Ten little applicants standing in a line,
One fancied a Chinese and then there were nine.

Oliver Molloy
70 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:34:11
I'm with those who reckon Ferguson should get a few more games in charge, but the reason for me is I want to see what he does when we get beat ( and I would be happy to wait a while by the way ).
Marcus Leigh
71 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:35:24
㿅 million pa? No brainer. Now give DF three months to show us what he can do.
Frank Fearns
72 Posted 10/12/2019 at 20:47:07
Great news. Stick with Dunc.
Andrew Hight
73 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:02:02
His words translate in the real world as “I wanted the job but realised I wasn't going to get it so I quickly called my PR team who came up with this old tripe so it sounds like I'm the winner here”
Paul Armstrong
74 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:08:30
Jim #61. Spot on. You never know.
Steve Ferns
75 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:15:28
Definite no from me for Paulo Sousa. Don't know much about the Portuguese. I believe his three jobs in England did not include any time in the top flight. He's never managed in his native Portugal. His whole career seems underwhelming. Some success in Hungry, Isreal and Switzerland. Did alright in Italy. Another who had a(n unsuccessful) spell in China before an unsuccessful spell in France. Arsenal can have him.
Tony Abrahams
76 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:29:59
Give it to The Bogeyman, is what David Prentice is saying on the echo website, and it's an interesting thought after what happened last Wednesday night!
Andrew James
77 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:38:42
Nice of him to rule himself out.

Really? Were we really in for him?

From what I gather, there's no point in dismissing Marco Silva if this was going to be the replacement.

Frank Sheppard
78 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:52:18
Great post by Jack at 69. Very good.
Dennis Ng
79 Posted 10/12/2019 at 21:52:40
Dunc should get a shout for a while more but Gallardo, as touted by some, seems to be a great fit if we somehow work up the courage to try.
Roger Helm
80 Posted 10/12/2019 at 22:01:34
Duncan is great and I loved the match but can he and the players keep up that intensity every match all season? It is a marathon, not a sprint.

After so many failures, the next manager for me has to be someone with experience in the premier league and no relegations or sackings on his CV.

Frank Bortoli
81 Posted 10/12/2019 at 22:08:36
Staying up is the priority this season.
Let's give Dunc the job on a match by basis or until the end of the season. If it's not working let's give the job to Benitez.
He is the best candidate, let's forget the few comments he made and look forward and get on with it.
Vijay Nair
82 Posted 10/12/2019 at 22:22:52
Dennis (79), totally agree!
Chad Schofield
83 Posted 10/12/2019 at 23:04:42
John Davies
84 Posted 10/12/2019 at 23:08:19
Good news. We dodged a bullet there.
Derek Knox
85 Posted 11/12/2019 at 02:27:10
I'm with Dennis and Ajay, let Duncan hopefully do his 'magic' in the next couple of games which we are not expected to get much out of.

Don't rush in where Angels Fear to Tread, and get the next appointment right this time, which will hopefully be Marcelo Gallardo.

Mike Veitch
86 Posted 11/12/2019 at 02:33:51
Guys. Dennis at 68 is talking about Ange Postecoglou. I also suggested we have a look at him on another thread.

You can see his impressive record on Wikepedia. He has succeeded as both a player and manager. Took Brisbane Road to successive A-League premierships which included a sequence of 36 matches undefeated. He seems to succeed wherever he goes.

Jamie Crowley
87 Posted 11/12/2019 at 03:08:09
I'm with the host of posters who feel:

1. Dodging the P bullet is a blessing

2. Emery is not the man for Everton, no way

3. If we actually sign Moyes thousands of Evertonians will drink arsenic

4. Give Big Dunc some time. That shine might wear off next week? Conversely, that shine might turn into the Scottish Mastermind Sir Duncan Ferguson? Who the hell knows? But after last week I don't care is we miss out on 3-4 managers while we give Big Dunc a wee bit of time.

Last week was a game changer for me. I witnessed a human being with some type of abstract charisma. A level of invisible charisma. Charisma that motivates human beings beyond. Not just the attention grabber in the room, but the guy who people follow - a leader of men in the truest sense.

Then I witnessed that human being show humility in a presser. And while exuding that humility, displayed a high level of intelligence behind his decision making - no matter how elementary the way we played, it took smarts to come to the conclusion, and bravery too, that “less is more” with the approach and tactics to the game.

I also saw a man who will make unpopular, out of vogue, decisions. [Paraphrasing] “You played two up top, not a very popular thing these days.” Dunc's answer: “Why not?” Then Dunc went on to explain why he thought that “rudimentary” approach actually made the most sense.

In short, the man showed me every single thing I could want out of a manager on Saturday. Charisma, intelligence, bravery, humility, passion in spades, all of it wrapped up in one neat little package called Duncan Ferguson.

Give the dude another week. We might be on to something here! If not and we miss out on Moyes, Emery, and a host of other mercenaries? Pfft. Who cares!

Phil Smith
88 Posted 11/12/2019 at 03:40:25
Phew, dodged a bullet there. I'd given Ancelotti no chance yesterday, but today there is, albeit a small one. He'd choose Arsenal over us any day of the week.
Brian Porter
89 Posted 11/12/2019 at 06:59:49
Jamie Cowley #87, you just saved me posting. Your post cites everything I was about to say.
Mark Andersson
90 Posted 11/12/2019 at 07:32:01
Looks to me that Moyes will get the nod for his experience and the fat controller will laud his love child, even the boys of Toffee web are now saying it could be a good thing if Dunc is made his number 2.

Most fans don't want Moyes and as soon as it goes tit's up which it will, the knifes to a gun fight GINGER looser will be run out of town. START AGAIN and AGAIN this club is a joke.

Martin Mason
91 Posted 11/12/2019 at 07:42:39
Ancelotti would seem to be totally unsuitable especially after just being sacked.
David Nicholls
92 Posted 11/12/2019 at 07:49:49
Big Dunc was a hero of mine as a teenager but I fear that a Keeganesque chest beating team-talk will soon stop being effective
Dave Trickey
93 Posted 11/12/2019 at 08:54:06
I'm pleased that Pereira is out of the running.

Controversially, I am coming round to the idea of Moyes returning. While I would love us to be playing slick, fluid, continental style football, realistically we aren't there yet. We actually need to take a step back before we can move forward; become hard to beat again.

If we can become hard to beat, with the quality of player we have in the squad, it won't take long to transition from hard to beat, to winning more often than not. I think Moyes can deliver on making us hard to beat and with some quality additions to the squad, we can start being taken seriously again.

Time to swallow some pride and bring him back.

John Hammond
94 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:05:49
Well thank f**k for that. I just can't believe Pereira was ever a serious option.

Rather than bring Moyes back (sigh) let's give Ferguson a few more games and see how we go. The players clearly played for him so let's keep it going.

Karl Masters
95 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:21:14
There's this young Manager who has taken a team of comparative nobodies who were struggling to a team challenging hard for their League and doing ok in Europe too.

Strong links with Merseyside, even photographed in an Everton shirt when he was 7. Champions League winner and played in 3 World Cups.

British, strong will to win, ticks all the boxes in many ways but it's Steven Gerrard. Damn

Karl Masters
96 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:26:10
Kovac, Ancellotti, Gallardo or Ten Haag for me with Big Dunc if those not available.

No to Moyes, Emery etc and I was also underwhelmed with Pereira.

Benitez is the one I just can't get my head around. FSW, little cloob, it's all in my mind, but take emotion out of it and maybe, just maybe...

Christopher Timmins
97 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:30:44
It's not looking good, Moyes was hot fav on odds checker last night and picking the Carlo would be totally at odds with what Brands stands for.

Marlon Hoff
98 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:31:08
We will never know if we dodged a bullet or not. We will never know who is the right fit but lets not compare VP to MS. His only failure was Munich 1860, when he took a team that was already destined for relegation. His win percentage over his managing career is as impressive as Jose (who most here wanted) himself. Don't know why everyone is on about PL experience (Silva had PL experience) as a host of successful coaches came here with no experience (Ancelotti and Mourinho included). Sometimes a you just get the right fit at the right time.

Big Dunc as a manager may be our answer and perfect fit who knows. I for one have been very negative towards him being on the coaching staff as he has been a common among the failed managers, then bang he pulls off a performance of passion and grit as manager. So who knows.

Steve Ferns
99 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:42:28
Christopher, so would picking Moyes. Seriously how can Brands continue in his job?

It is clear that Kenwright and his Little Miss Dynamite have screwed us over. The club is a complete mess and all the little factions have hamstrung Brands at every turn and this is the result.

I am very, very angry right now. I have never been more angry with this club.

Tony Hill
100 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:50:12
Let's wait and see. I remain hopeful that our club will have an outbreak of intelligence.
Christopher Timmins
101 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:51:00
Steve, I can't see how Brands would want Moyes back unless he thinks it would solve a very short term problem while he finds the long term solution. If Moyes is brought back in circumstances where Brand's does not approve it then Brands has to consider his position.

Is it not the sad reality that nobody of merit appears to be interested in the job!

Jay Wood

102 Posted 11/12/2019 at 09:54:38
Steve, your anger is not misplaced.

I posted on the Moyes thread last night when this story broke before turning in how it was going to cost me a good night's sleep. It did.

But I'm not in full-blown despair or volcano erupting anger mode just yet.

There has been a whole raft of rumours and favourites in recent days.

Let's see how this actually plays out before going into full meltdown.

That said, if Moyes does return, the club and its guardians will fully deserve all the scorn and outrage that I believe will follow from the supporters.

Karen Mason
103 Posted 11/12/2019 at 10:15:00
To sum up our situation, check this out

I know some people have toooo much time on their hands, but this one is well worth it.

Terry McLavey
104 Posted 11/12/2019 at 13:48:58
The transformation in the last match,whether or not it was completely down to Duncan or not was remarkable, a least stick with him for a few more matches rather than go hunting for someone on the millionaire merry go round that says all the right things but doesn't give a fuck about the club.
Jamie Crowley
105 Posted 11/12/2019 at 14:46:19
Karl @ 95 -

One of the secret reasons I want Dunc to continue, is that I'd like him to make it through the rest of the season because:

1. If he lights it up, we can then award him a contract, or

2. If Dunc sees us safe but that new car smell wears off, at season's end we can go full bore for Ten Hag. He is my #1 dream pick in an honest moment.

Jack Convery
106 Posted 11/12/2019 at 17:02:26
10 Little Applicants standing in a line
One fancied a Chinese and then there were nine

9 Little Applicants having to wait
One preferred the Argentine and then there were eight

8 Little Applicants to be continued.

Steve Ferns
107 Posted 11/12/2019 at 21:02:15
Pereira is now going to Arsenal, his agent must be after another £5m a year from Shanghai SPIG!
Gaute Lie
108 Posted 11/12/2019 at 01:24:41
Mike Veitch,

Stats on this Ange Fella from Wikipedia:

Not so good as you say..

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