The Iranian-born billionaire was pictured leaving Runcon train station before traveling to the club's training complex amid fevered media speculation that Silva will be sacked today following yet another damaging defeat. He was joined by Sasha Ryazantsev, his representative on the Board, and Chairman Bill Kenwright.
Three days after throwing away a 1-0 lead at Leicester, the Toffees were beaten 5-2 in last night's Merseyside derby, their eighth defeat in their last 11 games.
It appeared last Friday as though Silva would be given more time following an interview by Director of Football, Marcel Brands, in which the Dutchman stressed that the club was going to stay united and that the manager would be retained.
The nature of the derby defeat, however, in which Everton conceded four first-half goals for only the second time in the Premier League era, combined with the supporters' reaction, might have forced Moshiri's hands.
Everton's players were also reportedly asked to stay behind after training to be addressed by the owner and at 7pm the first report emerged via the BBC claiming that Silva had been sacked and would not be in charge against Chelsea on Saturday.
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1 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:49:55
2 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:49:57
Hmmâ€¦ I wonder. ðŸ™„
3 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:50:03
Or maybe not.
4 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:51:15
5 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:51:24
6 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:51:43
7 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:51:58
8 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:53:14
9 Posted 05/12/2019 at 16:54:04
10 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:00:18
That causes concern on two fronts, not just that Silva remains, but it also hints that he does not have anyone lined up to come in immediately.
So, if true, I wonder what the split would be on Silva or Moyes for the next game.
11 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:00:22
12 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:00:24
13 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:01:40
14 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:02:20
15 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:03:02
16 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:04:05
But will Brands want to stay as well if Silva ditched and Moyes gets job. Will Moyes be willing to work with DOF denying him his wish to run the lot as I'm sure he wants to.
I don't think it's just an easy sack Silva job, there is far more at stake, maybe even Moshiri's willingness to keep pumping in millions.
17 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:05:03
18 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:06:07
19 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:06:08
Not biting the bullet now is merely delaying the inevitable. Silva is a piss poor manager on so many fronts.
Just do it.
20 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:07:33
I remember being excited when Moyes walked in the door, called us the People's Club and got Unsworth scoring in the first few minutes against Fulham. Football has changed and Moyes hasn't.
Please don't bring him back.
I'm deeply concerned for our future. We're heading to be the next Leeds United or Nottingham Forest.
21 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:09:11
22 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:10:46
Boy's pen Bill has sent out for a Pantomime Horse's Outfit, a Mankini, a Bottle of Gin, and a round of sandwiches, what the f*** is that all about?
23 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:11:07
Not that it will probably bother them. They'll be more interested in getting home safely in their Ferrari's and Bentley's to check their bank balances.
24 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:12:21
25 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:16:52
26 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:17:30
27 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:20:48
28 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:25:47
29 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:26:22
30 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:28:32
31 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:28:58
Can they not decide? Can they not get their man? Do they seriously think Silva is remotely confident? Are they asking him to resign to save £? Is the delay because the asked Silva a question, and he is still going through one of his long, meaningless waffles about “momentsâ€ and they can't stop him?
32 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:29:44
Noticed the current voting on the Grand Old Team poll for / against Moyes returning:
That is a landslide & echo's the sentiment on here after Norwich when the rumours surfaced then.
Why make a hugely unpopular decision & potentially bad footballing one given his recent record? If the club's media team are monitoring the web & social media to gather data & advise, you'd think they'd listen . oh wait, it's Everton. Moyes it is then.
33 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:32:14
34 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:32:19
35 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:32:29
36 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:32:57
What Moshiri must do to move the club forward is remove Bill Kenwright & all the ineffective hangers on (i.e. Ferguson, Unsworth, Jeffers, Ebbrell etc), and let his man i.e. Brands do the job he was brought in to do.
All BK ever does is go back to failures & non-achievers - in spite of some bad signings, particularly before Brands came on board, why are there so few truly home-grown young players coming through from the youth set-up? Going back didn't even work with Howard Kendall, who was successful first time round partly at least because the club gave him time.
The sale of Lukaku in order to get Rooney back was obviously a ridiculous move at the time, clearly initiated and driven by BK for his own sentimental reasons, and caused the waste of a season, demonstrated a lack of ambition and entrenched us in a low-scoring, painfully slow playing style.
This non-sensical speculation about bringing back Moyes, who made us a laughing stock by his treatment of the club in his last 6 months, needs killing rapidly.
37 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:34:59
38 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:40:35
39 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:42:07
Only Everton could drag it out like this.
40 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:42:47
Either the bloke they have in mind can do the sodding job or he can't. So having some boring turd "minding the coats" makes bugger all sense.
And as DoF then surely Brands must already have some names to discuss positively with The Mosh, I mean that is his job isn't it ?
Last bloody thing we need is bloody Widow Twanky interfering unless The Mosh & Brands preface Bills input with "Whatever the gushing one says is an automatic NO!"
If we thought a shit start to the season, getting tonked at Anfiled and dropping into the bottom three was embarassing, now we have to stand by with our kecks down as the three stooges appoint fuckin Arthur Arsekey !
"Matron, my revolver, set one less place for supper. I'm taking a stroll in the woods".
41 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:42:56
But the big one is fear. This is rarely a major component of news stories, texts or speeches, but it is very high on TW at the moment. The profile for Michael's report and the BTL comments has exactly the same profile as does Lyndon's.
At least we are consistent. We are fearful.
42 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:44:30
43 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:45:22
The performance of the whole club at the moment is woeful. We've absolutely spunked 𧺬 million on crap players. The money for Bramley-Moore Dock will probably go on players now and we'll still be at Goodison Park in 20 years time. I hope Moshiri and his henchmen give them both barrels.
44 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:47:46
45 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:48:33
46 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:48:36
47 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:48:41
Yes Danny they were savaged with the feather duster Bill Kenwright passed to Moshiri.
48 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:49:17
The fact that most consider Digne one of are best players just about sums this wreckage of a Club up.
49 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:50:19
50 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:51:29
Of course it shouldn't be a simple as that and we should have someone else/better in mind, but I wonder what other people's views would be if it came down to this -
Give Silva more time, or have Moyes on the sidelines at Goodison this weekend??
51 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:53:21
Top teams will come to Goodison and smash us to bits, the other 14 teams will come to Goodison, park the bus and hit us on the break, knowing that they'll be given golden opportunities on a plate. We'll actually pass to them, give them the ball on the halfway line and then all they have to do is run at the defence, who will part like Moses and the Red Sea and say "there you are have a goal"
Whose fault, Silva, coaches, Brands, lack of decent academy players, doesn't matter, we are where we are with a 3rd rate squad and even if Klopp came in he couldn't save us !
52 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:53:49
53 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:54:12
Can a big boss not tell his staff that what they are producing is not good enough?
Can a big boss not tell his staff that they will be replaced if they don't improve?
The players might well be able to throw Silva under the bus. If I was Moshiri, I would make it clear that they will not throw him under a bus. He can afford to let them rot in the reserves if required. They either buck up, or rot in the reserves.
54 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:54:16
55 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:55:26
Made me chuckle anyway.
56 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:56:01
What was it John McEnroe said at Wimbledon?
Suicide rates would hit an all time record high, Global Warming would increase, we're doomed, we're doomed!
57 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:58:56
It sums up this shit show perfectly.
58 Posted 05/12/2019 at 17:59:39
59 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:01:34
I remember saying to Tony A and his dad at one of the get-togethers (after the 4-0 win against Man Utd I think) that I felt Silva was the man and I thought he'd take us onwards and upwards and be here for some significant time. How wrong could I be?
Thing is I find myself numb and not knowing what or who to want. It's a feeling of total and utter despair that has been with me for weeks and has been getting worse the worse we've done.
I sometimes wish I could walk away because this is fucking affecting my life in a really bad way.
I was looking forward to a really good Christmas but some chance of that! Am I a fucking idiot for letting it mean so much?
60 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:01:59
Yes it can! Gollom leading us into Mordor!
He took a knife to a gunfight last time he was with us, and that was him at his peak. He's older and tired, so what would it be now? Moyes with his feather duster into that flamethrower fight we had last night with the RS?
61 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:02:10
Amateur hour continues.
62 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:03:01
63 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:05:02
64 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:05:50
65 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:05:52
First off Silva needs to go. I've never seen a manager so out of his depth.. I'm not even sure he will be gone at this point. Any new manager won't even have a training session before our next game. If Silva is here still, l will back Chelsea. If he isn't, then l'm backing the blues.
Also a watchful eye on Richarlison. Who I'd pair with Kean. Have lwobi behind them. Davies and Bernard together in midfield. Schneiderlin sitting deep and under instruction to find runners ahead, if they are moving. And a back 4.
We have to play 3 in midfield, not at the back. Control the game. And fuck me, this supporting the blues is hard graft. I think Moshiri came to drop of Christmas cards.
66 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:07:20
So given the choice between Silva and Moyes who do you want?
67 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:08:27
68 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:09:20
69 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:10:15
Neither. Rhino or Dunc for me. This is ridiculous, Silva should have been given the boot last night. We used to laugh at Moyes for his dithering, but he moved like the Flash compared to this slow motion car crash.
What a joke.
70 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:10:34
71 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:10:34
72 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:12:11
73 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:12:40
74 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:13:03
Moyes would keep us up just by tightening up the defence but agree it would be a backward step.
IMO - I like the idea of Marcello Gallado or Bielsa.
I can't cope with not knowing. The silence is killing me.
75 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:13:35
Alarm bells should have been ringing then, and shouldn't really have stopped ringing. Brands and others are delaying, prevaricating and coming across like haven't got a clear idea what to do.
76 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:16:18
77 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:17:33
78 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:18:47
That's nothing against Moyes the person, just Moyes the manager.
He done a job for us at the time but I think he couldn't do that again now.
79 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:18:56
80 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:19:05
81 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:20:07
82 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:20:26
If it's to be anyone else, then that'll take time and no guarantee they'll get who they want. Look how long it takes to sign players, and what we end up with.
I think we'll get an interim manager, most likely Moyes.
83 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:24:55
Keep your chin up mate, you never know this time next week we could have Diego Simeone as our manager and Warren Buffet as our new owner after having completely cleared out the board of wingnuts and dingbats and feeling in a generous mood.
84 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:26:40
85 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:26:43
It's "Operation Goodison Exercise" all over. If anything epitomizes the utter brain-dead mindlessness of screaming that out at every game... does any other Premier League club find it necessary to do that during each and every home match?
Maybe Ged the Steward could explain it...
86 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:27:39
87 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:27:59
88 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:29:20
89 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:31:31
It's not really been mentioned but I think, as much as losing Gueye and Zouma has hurt us, losing Silva's experienced assistant manager has been a problem. That same Number 2 is doing very well with a little team back in Portugal now. Was he the driving force?
90 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:32:25
91 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:32:30
92 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:34:23
They don't confirm to the rules we have to adhere to. Martinez, Koeman and soon to be, Silva, reinforces my theory. They haven't performed, what are rhe consequences for them?
I'm sure the £60k a week, the players get paid, lessens the blow of sitting in the reserves
93 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:34:30
This has now stretched out so long as to be beyond absurd. Everton 2019 folks, we can't hire people and then we can't fire them either.
A total total joke.
94 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:35:32
95 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:35:33
96 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:35:39
97 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:35:47
If I had my way, I would get Peter Reid, Tim Cahill and Roy Keane, yes, Roy Keane, in at Finch Farm and on the sideline for a match or two...
98 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:35:55
Richarlison "get out of contract clause to be met" in the next window.
Sign some misfits/or not wanted by United or Top Six club in exchange for Richarlison and undisclosed fee.
Sign a player called "Everton" but not the one widely linked with top teams.
99 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:37:31
100 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:40:12
Then that cretin announcer bleats out "Give a Great Big Goodison Welcome to returning hero, David Elizbeth Moyes!"
101 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:40:14
The wedding between Diego Simeone and Atletico appears to be over, but as someone earlier noted, he'll be off to Arsenal with our luck.
Yes, Kieran @ 73, Louis van Gaal was the coach at AZ, but it was Marcel Brands who assembled the team.
PSV were on the ropes when he took over there.
He turned things around, with the academy finally bringing players through.
You'll not find anyone in our country echoing your words, it'll be the opposite.
As for the mess at our club, we can only wait and hope.
102 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:40:15
They will say it's them being supportive but in reality they are hanging him out to dry by making sure he finishes this tough stretch of fixtures, before a new victim is installed.
103 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:41:46
No real coincidence that he wanted to prove he is his own man, and not Silva's teddy bear, yet he has done well at his new Club, what has Silva done?
104 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:43:40
105 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:44:22
106 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:45:11
Never ever understood what that was; at first, I thought a fan had left their car light on or something.
No such announcements at any other Premier League club...â€¦..more amateur hour stuff from us no doubt.
107 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:47:25
I've been a supporter since 1978 and if he comes back, that's it for me. Divorce. I'll invest my support elsewhere such as Rugby League or lower division football.
108 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:47:45
109 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:48:15
This would also indicate that they're not in favor of making an interim panic move like Moyes would represent. And allow them to mirror the Spurs by firing Silva / announcing the hire of his replacement in the same week or even same press conference.
It's still speculation on my part but I believe it makes the most sense. Yes it'd be class if they told us that as fans, but if we're honest, that's an unreasonable expectation.
110 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:48:25
111 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:49:00
112 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:50:14
113 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:50:43
114 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:51:24
115 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:51:45
116 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:51:52
117 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:53:06
You're the American fan are you not? Have you been to Goodison when the air is thick and toxic?
Silva looked like he was about to vomit at the tin mine last night. Silva sitting in the dugout against Frank Lampard's young team is to me, unfathomable. It would be completely pointless and counter productive, and really really piss off the natives.
118 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:54:32
1. To be informed SIlva is staying and get a rocket off Moshiri for their shocking play.
2. To meet the new manager, which if this is the case it must have to be Moyes as no one else could possible be around anyway at this short notice.
119 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:57:15
120 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:57:54
121 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:59:52
122 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:59:56
123 Posted 05/12/2019 at 18:59:56
124 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:01:05
125 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:01:48
126 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:02:36
I'm having a hard time determining which has reached maximum fever pitch; desire for Silva to be gone or the utter ridiculousness on the topic from the interwebs.
127 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:02:53
128 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:05:08
Who knows? All I know is we cannot get this wrong, and letting Moyes get even one foot in the door, particularly on the rumoured top 10 and I get the job full time contract, is wrong, very wrong.
129 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:05:46
131 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:07:16
132 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:08:57
133 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:09:56
134 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:12:08
135 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:12:57
136 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:13:52
137 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:14:13
oh well, he gone
138 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:14:14
139 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:14:20
You could have saved all that wahwah nonsense and realised that the vast majority of knowledgable Evertonians don't want Moyes because hes not a good football manager,
Do you get that ?
140 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:15:05
141 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:15:07
142 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:15:09
143 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:15:46
144 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:16:07
145 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:17:02
146 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:17:12
147 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:17:38
148 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:17:39
Not just Brands, they can all go. Every one of them
149 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:18:08
What clubs do you consult for on transfers Mark G?
150 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:18:48
151 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:19:50
Should Moyes return, interim basis or not, my 33 year love affair with the club is well and truly over.
Moyes coming back says everything to me. It speaks loud and clear...this club has no ambition, with no intention of challenging or winning in the future.
As such, all hope is extinguished. It's game over and I'm completely out...
152 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:20:01
No successor as yet
153 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:20:20
You were right to call it out.
On an unrelated note, was it you that speculated thirty minutes ago that Silva himself was the caretaker / interim manager?
154 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:20:51
155 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:23:20
156 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:23:20
157 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:23:22
Moyes favourite as interim
158 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:24:06
Hold it...hold it...hold it!
Who is his replacement?
159 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:27:17
It will be interesting to hear Moyes address his attitude to the club during his final season here. We clearly weren't big enough then so what has changed now? Probably Kenwright giving him a kings ransom in wages!
160 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:28:45
7,884 fans voted.
YES: 1,478 (18.75%)
NO: 6,406 (81.25%)
161 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:29:19
162 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:31:20
Forget that. We're a laughing stock whatever happens.
163 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:31:26
164 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:31:49
Sure I've seen you on Match Days in the same garb! ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜˜
165 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:33:22
166 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:36:44
167 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:37:11
Madness to agree long term contracts in the knowledge they will not be fulfilled. They have to be earned (although I realise football doesn't really operate like that.)
168 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:41:16
169 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:45:43
170 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:52:51
Now Dunc - grab some players around the neck (think leicester kraut midfielder)
171 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:54:43
172 Posted 05/12/2019 at 19:56:22
173 Posted 05/12/2019 at 20:30:40
174 Posted 05/12/2019 at 20:48:47
I never thought I would be worrying about relegation , but looking at our fixtures we are in real trouble and so we need a manager who knows how to keep us up and sorry all you big Dunc fans, he is not the guy.
This team is full of prima donna's and if they were all honest would hold their hands and take responsibility for showing sweet fa, they eventually led to Silva getting the sack.
Silva has been unlucky with the injuries and Brands has delivered to him nothing special.
Their performances have been just fucking awful, the only player trying last night was Richarlison, like they can not even pass the fucking ball to each other a lot of the time.
Moshiri apparently has told the players " the club needs you to step up " while the awaiting on the next managerial appointment.
Fucking Moshiri should have stepped up after Norwich home defeat if not before.
For me, I was always wary of Silva's appointment, his record in the premier league was awful.
Moshiri's reign to date has been a total fucking shambles and it has set us back in my opinion.
I also agree with those who say that Silva was hung out to dry by the club this week.
The next appointment will be Moyes I believe !
175 Posted 06/12/2019 at 09:05:14
176 Posted 06/12/2019 at 10:25:48
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