Everton vs Manchester City

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André Gomes misses out again with a rib injury that has now sidelined him for four matches in all competitions

Everton host Manchester City at Goodison Park this afternoon hoping to spring a surprise on the reigning champions and reignite their Premier League season.

With the pressure mounting following three defeats in four, including losses to newly-promoted Aston Villa and Sheffield United, the Blues were boosted by victory over Sheffield Wednesday in the Carabao Cup on Tuesday, but the resumption of the league campaign will return the focus on the need to start winning matches and keep alive the club's hopes of finishing in the top six come May.

Given Everton's recent struggles and City's superiority, there's a temptation to write this game off or at least not be all that concerned about the result and look to the trip to Burnley next weekend as a better barometer of how well Marco Silva's men are responding to their early-season set-backs.

There is plenty to be gauged from how the team goes about their business against this type of opposition, however, and as an injury-hit Norwich ably demonstrated earlier this month, Pep Guardiola's side are by no means infallible.

They can be devastating from an attacking perspective, however, and with Everton disappointingly porous so far this term, that will be a concern, particularly as City put eight past Watford last Saturday while the Toffees failed to register at all against Sheffield. Still, this is a match that an on-song Everton can win and title race be damned at this early stage.

At the back, Michael Keane is expected to return to partner Yerry Mina after being rested in the cup on Tuesday and even though he hasn't been in the best of form so far this season, Seamus Coleman's experience should get him the nod over Djibril Sidibé, despite the Frenchman impressing at Sheffield Wednesday, particularly going forward.

Along with Jean-Philippe Gbamin, Silva is still without André Gomes in midfield who continues to recover a rib injury that has kept him out of the last three matches. That would ordinarily mean the manager having to choose between Morgan Schneiderlin and Tom Davies but his team selection for this fixture in February, one designed to cope with City's dynamic midfield threesome, suggests that both the Frenchman and the young Englishman could be involved alongside ex-Citizen, Fabian Delph.

That would mean a front three, Silva's preferred formation, and, in all likelihood, Gylfi Sigurdsson starting on the bench, with Alex Iwobi and Richarlison the likely to play either side of the chosen striker. Silva has chopped and changed at centre-forward to a maddening degree and, after Moise Kean was chosen to start the match against Sheffield United and Dominic Calvert-Lewin led the line at Wednesday, the latter could get the nod on the basis of his well-taken brace at Hillsborough.

Where Calvert-Lewin's usefulness has often been his hard running, physical presence and aerial ability, Kean's greater mobility — or even that of Cenk Tosun, for that matter — in and around the box might favour him against the less conventional central-defensive partnership of Nicolas Otamendi and Fernandinho.

While Everton have struggled against teams employing the low block and been depressingly vulnerable at set-pieces, City's more open style and preference to play free-kicks and corners short to work the ball in on the floor means that the Blues should ensure that his is a very different contest to the one against the Blades.

There will almost certainly be opportunities at one end but Everton will have to be at their very best defensively to keep the top flight's most prolific attack at bay.

Kick-off: 5:30pm, Saturday, 28 September 2019
Referee: Michael Oliver
Last Time: Everton 0 -2 Manchester City

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Mina, Digne, Delph, Schneiderlin, Davies, Iwobi, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin


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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 28/09/2019 at 05:45:22
3-2. Gylfi from long range to win it.

As long as we don't give up any set pieces.

Bobby Mallon
2 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:06:56
We can all be optimistic and I had high hopes of us winning a cup this season and finishing top 6, but alas we will finish below 10 and today get a lesson in how to finish with lots of possession
Bobby Mallon
3 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:11:59
I just hope we have some bloody shots
Frank Sheppard
4 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:12:35
We are losing games, and losing badly against teams we would expect to win against, so perhaps we can get a unexpectedly positive result here. Free kicks and corners into the box are still a cause for nightmares. Let's hope it's not carnage. COYB.
Sam Hoare
5 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:24:14
Last season the less possession we had the more likely we were to win. I expect us to play better today but be undone by the scintillating attack that City possess. Sterling and Aguero running at/past Keane and Mina is potentially the stuff of nightmares. Huge test for their partnership.
Derek Knox
6 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:29:14
It would be good to think we could get some sort of performance against City, but recent showings have been so poor I can't see it at all.

Even though the scoreline against Wednesday got us through to next round, the overall performance didn't provide any evidence of major improvement. I have almost given up trying to predict anything anymore, with this stubborn idiot in charge anything could happen.

Kim Vivian
7 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:33:32
Not able to watch this so recording for later viewing. Not expecting great things but will of course be made p if we can pull something out of the bag. I suspect this will not be a classic and realistically to go down 0-2.

Having written that hopefully I will be wrong as usual and we will do a Norwich!

Kenn Crawford
8 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:43:29
Nothing will change because Silva cannot change Sniederlin is crap Siggy is playing to far forward and Delph is hot and cold. Everyone is blaming the forwards for not scoring but the problem is we are not creating many chances, to many sideways and back passing, no forward thrust so do not expect anything different and I will be happy with a draw. Jesus guys it's the hope that kills us. But like every other blue come on Everton show us what your made of.
Tony Everan
9 Posted 28/09/2019 at 07:55:58
Norwich City did a job on them, why can't we ?

Our chances rest in the work rate of our midfield, we need a dogs of war attitude today from our 5 midfielders. Richarlison , Bernard/Iwobi have massive jobs on to contribute defensively .

Norwich worked harder than Man City, fought for every ball, closed down, first to knock downs and tried to restrict City's space. They had a bit of luck, took their chances very well and got the 3 points.

Man City have defensive weakness, we can exploit it - pressurise their defence and they will buckle.

We have got better players than Norwich City, we need to be organised, well set up and fully motivated. Execute the game plan ruthlessly.

As far as I am concerned no team should come to Goodison and expect anything less than a, fans and players created, bear pit.

Come on Man City bring it on.

Jack Convery
10 Posted 28/09/2019 at 08:04:05
If the team are not up for this then things are bad. COYBs !!
David Pearl
11 Posted 28/09/2019 at 08:30:07
Chelsea, the arse, spurs and utd all look pretty poorish so far, and as predicted the opportunity has been presented for another team or two to break into the European spots. Leicester seem likely... and its down to them having a better manager.

Our manager prefers 433 (my arse). Brave shout from Lyndon to suggest a change in formation for this game. I hope he is right. You just can't say that Sigurdsson isn't capable of operating deeper as its just not true. He isn't asked to. His form is down to the manager like a few of the players.

Silva might or could go 3 at the back and bring in Holgate at the expense of a forward player. Schneiderlin and Bernard were our two best players last week and they were both replaced after only 10 minutes of the second half when Silva panicked instead of having the ability to tweak things.

So there you have it. If we start well we have a chance to get something from this game. If we don't then l'm not expecting any kind of fight back from tactical genius or motivation. We have spent a lot of money on players (good players) use them Marco!

Justin Doone
12 Posted 28/09/2019 at 08:39:45
I'm very excited to watch some good football and hopefully a good competitive game.

Better individuals in a team doesn't make a better team. No point in comparing us to Norwich, we got beat by Shef U and Villa.

We lack pace, strength and leadership at the back and in our central midfield. Agree we need to close city down but not at the expense of leaving gaps at the back or pushing both full backs up at the same time and out of position.

Silva and several players need to take charge and step up. Stop the mistakes. Stay switched on. Don't give the ball away cheaply. Get bodies in the box for crosses. Crossing needs to be better, beat the first man away from the keeper.

Ernie Baywood
13 Posted 28/09/2019 at 08:50:52
DCL up top and Iwobi in instantly improves us from last week's team.

That would make me hopeful. Except in-game management remains key. And our manager remains beyond poor in this area.

If we're losing, throw attackers on. If we're winning, throw defenders on. He's done it from the very start of his time with us. Not changing now.

Hope for a miracle.

Darren Hind
14 Posted 28/09/2019 at 08:53:09
I certainly wont be writing off our chances. I think the crowd will have a big influence on how we play.

We know the old lady can be an intimidating place were the mighty can fall because we have all seen it.
Lets make the City players spend the afternoon wishing to fuck they were somewhere else.

If City play well, they could win in a canter. We, on the other hand, will need all of our stars to be aligned just to scrape a win. But the that's BEFORE we factor in the twelfth man

Here's an omen (I generally make one up before big games); I Checked me 365 account this morning and after a poor day yesterday, I found there was a sad looking 13 quid left in it. Having messed around winning a tenner/losing a tenner for about three months, I decided it was time to freshen things up and I put it on an Everton win at 9/1.

Thirteen - "Unlucky" (so they say) "for some"

If we win I'll be the noisy fucker singing his way down County road and if we lose. . I'll probably be on here moaning like fuck

COYB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jamie Evans
15 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:19:08
With the greatest of respect Lyndon, how is 4-3-3 Silva ‘s preferred formation ?

If you or anyone else (Steve Ferns ?) could explain that please I would be eternally grateful.

Steve Ferns
16 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:21:19
Because it's the one he's played the most. It's also the one he always talks of as his preferred formation.
Jamie Evans
17 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:24:38
Played the most where Steve ? Serious question.
Dave Abrahams
18 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:24:57
I'd love you to be right Darren but I'm hoping for the best, expecting the worse.

I can't be confident against any team with Mina and Keane at the back, I think the two of them will be spun dizzy with these quick interchanging City players although they will add to the rhythm of the game, slow, slow, quick quick slow, you know where they fit in.!!

Darren Hind
19 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:28:49
Jamie @

The "intention" is to play that system most of the time.
Unfortunately we lack pace, confidence and conviction and become raggedy.

Thats probably why you are not recognising it


Agreed regarding the central defensive partnership.Silva seems determined to go with it though.

I`m hoping that having had a few games, Mina will start to take charge of that situation. He`s going to have to. I believe Keane is more of a follower than a leader. I`m hoping better opposition will bring out the best of both of them

Mark Burton
20 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:29:01
I am in a delemma. Win today for us hands Red Shite a bonus, I love Everton but would hate to see our hated neighbours gloating at eight point top of the table. I want a win today for us and two wins against ths Shite and it will be the best season ever.
Steve Ferns
21 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:30:53
Estoril, Sporting, and Olympiacos. Ie 5 seasons of his 8 year career. It's his we're the superior side formation. It's better suited to having more of the ball and pressing to get it back. He used 4231 for counter-attacking. He feels obliged to play 4231 because of Sigurdsson. A player he feels obliged to play, not least because he's one of our best players. But silva will go against what he wants to do to get the best out of the side. Sure he's made some errors of judgement, but don't we all?
Paul Birmingham
22 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:33:57
Surely today the team will be focused, and up for it?

Nothing less and there could be be big trouble ahead. The media and the RS prejudice and the facts our scoring capability, and form, is not good enough, means that a hammering is on the cards.

On the day The Old Lady plays her part, and arguably the most partizan crowd in the EPL, when the tempo is right on the Park, against high flying rivals from down the East
Lancsc Road, could see a surprise.

The problem is we don't convert possession into chances and when we get chances we are not deadly enough..

Too much respect in the midfield and we will get hammered. But I'm being optimistic, and we will recover from last weeks abyss and take courage from Norwich.

But no basic mistakes and 100% application for 97 minutes and if we believe, then we can win.


Tony Abrahams
23 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:37:41
Fuck Liverpool, Mark, Everton need a lift mate, and no team has ever won the league in September, I hope Darren is on the ale spending his winnings, and it would be lovely if we didn't have to read anything off Jim B, until tomorrow!

Steve Ferns
24 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:38:02
When he arrived at Everton, before a ball was kicked, he gave an interview saying he wanted to play 433. He described having 1 DM or he could go with 2 DMs. So clearly he classes his 4231 as a 433. A 4213 if you want. His wide forwards are meant to work hard and track back and so can get pinned back into midfield.

For the 433 with 1 DM, he foresaw a key player in Schneiderlin. He hoped he could play the single pivot role in the way the great Sergi Busquets does, but clearly with inferior skills. Busquets is able to plug holes, tackle, intercept, bring the ball out of defence and pass. He thought Schneiderlin had such qualities

Then he got our players in to train and he quickly abandoned the idea. Clearly, Schneiderlin was not what he hoped he was. But I still think the bigger issue is Sigurdsson. And no, he can't play deeper. Time and time again he fails to. He could easy drop from his marked out the game position and get the ball and try to make something happen. Other number 10s do it. He seems happy to let others take responsibility.

Chris Gould
25 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:39:17
Surely we have to be focusing on plenty of crosses and high balls into their box. They have no height or imposing players, and a makeshift centre back.
This is a game for DCL. If he can play with a little more aggression then he has the beating of Otamendi and Fernandinho in the air. If he gets the support, and we can win the second balls, then we may have some opportunities.

Trying to be positive, but it will take something that we haven't seen this season for us to get a decent result.

Steve Ferns
26 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:41:35
Poor Jim B, Tony. I hope we do hear from him, and that Darren is spending his winnings and Jim is on to say what a wonderful game it was.

Personally, I'm worried we'll play well and lose easily. 1-3 I think. The worrying thing is well then be 16th or 17th and the level of crisis will be ramped up by the press and the pressure will be on from all sides.

Jonathan Tasker
27 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:51:10
Silva out
Mark Brennnan
28 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:52:29
Mark. "We don't care what the r*d shyte say...….. + they won't win it - they'll bottle it again
David Pearl
29 Posted 28/09/2019 at 09:54:53
and with all due respect as you have many insights on the game and l enjoy reading your posts. Not once, never have we played 433 under Silva. Sigurdsson didn't play midweek and we still played 4231.

Schneiderlin has been one of our better players this season but people look through him. He does exactly what he is supposed to do. If a ball is on ahead he will make it. If not, he won't. He is in the right place most of the time playing the role asked of him by the manager.

Siggy can play deeper, he is a talented all round player, not an imbecile. He is being asked to play that role close to the striker because our other 2 forwards are too busy chasing back into our own box and stuck wide leaving the middle open.

We should do better today. The players will be up for it, as will the crowd and we will suit playing on the break instead of attacking from wide as we always do.

This game could kick start our season. If it doesn't and we lose against Burnley... then I'm sorry but surely he will be gone. He has enough good players to be doing a lot better with them. One thing that might save him is if Moshiri wants to see both the manager and young players grow and improve together, then he can throw another £100M + at us next summer too.

Cristobal Aguirre
30 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:01:15
It would be very difficult to take something here. Our set pieces record is dismay. Is you think for a moment about it, a manager work could be size for the set-pieces record and for the attack system in both we are terrible. I would love we to win here, but with Silva in charge, the way we defend set-pieces and our lack of variants in the attack, it seems to me almost impossible. Hope for a miracle 2-1 but I believe we will loss 1-3 or 1-4.
Tony Hill
31 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:06:51
I share Steve Ferns' worry @26 about today and the consequences, but let's hope we get a break and that we play bravely. Their defence is quite a significant weakness - if we can get through to it.
Derek Knox
32 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:08:49
There's been a couple of articles I have read this week saying there are two sides in Portugal (must be masochists) are trying to lure Marco back to Portugal. I sincerely hope he is tempted.

It would possibly be a face-saver for him, would alleviate of us a major problem, and would save us another compensation for failure scenario. I am sure there will be no shortage of volunteers to carry his stuff to the airport and ensure he get's on that plane with a Single ticket.

We won't stand in your way Marco, in fact we will endorse it wholeheartedly. Now F*** Off!

Raymond Fox
33 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:10:53
Well I've two small bets on, 10/1 for us to win and took 5/1 the draw
It will be a totally different game than recent games against opposition that come for a draw and I think those prices are on the generous side.
I can see us playing well but I fear that their attacking ability will probably in the end be a little too much for us.
Thats the obvious forecast but I still have a sneaky feeling that we might get something out of the game though!
Kunal Desai
34 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:11:58
Just make it some kind of contest. Show a bit of effort and committment rather than producing displays and a body language like you don't give a shit.

Not sure if its a good thing. Will be missing this as I am out for the evening.

George Cumiskey
35 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:12:43
Silva plays 433 you must be joking, I don't know what matches some people are watching.
I'd sack Silva before the game if he picks Siggy and Sneids.
Jerome Shields
36 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:13:36
I think it would be better to play Sidibi rather than Coleman. Sidibi actually. is more experienced than Coleman and his feeder pass to Calvert Lewin during the week shows a awareness and accuracy that Coleman now lacks. Man City will see Coleman as the weak link, whilst Sidibi will cause them to think twice.

I also prefer Holgate to Mina or Keane. He is more effective than either at distributing the ball our from the back and now is match fit. My thinking is that short or poor pass completion results in more momentum for Man City.

I agree with Schneiderlin, , Davies and Iowbi playing. Aleast they get on the ball or try to.

Calvert Lewin of course leading the attack.

David Pearl
37 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:14:51
This is Everton though and it would be true to form if we beat City today and then lose against Burnley. That said if their two smallest players score headers against l won't be shocked. I hope to see a game plan and the players giving 100%
George Cumiskey
38 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:23:25
It's ok everyone saying City have a dodgy defense but you still need a good attack to exploit it.
I'm afraid we haven't got one at the moment.
Sean Kelly
39 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:29:30
TONY #9 You say we have to be well organised, well set up and motivated. I'm fine with that. You also say we have to execute the game plan. You do realise Marco is our manager. Since he came here I've seen none of that but I live in hope. As for motivation just gave a look at his demeanor on the side line. Arms folded no emotion. He's a f...ing corpse.
Dave Williams
40 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:32:00
I agree with Tony Everan. Our front six have to work like never before to close them down and stop Sterling and Aguero from finding the space to pass around our CBs. Stand off them and they will pull us apart but get touch tight and stay with the man and they may find it difficult.
I don't fear set pieces today because they will try to play through us and they don't have the height to launch a succession of high balls.
Our team selection is a puzzle. Play our best team and we look defensively vulnerable. Play Morgan and the defence looks stronger but we lose attacking mobility. Delph and Davies will run all day and we need a top performance from Fabian against his old team. On balance I would play those two with Alex, Bernard and Richi out wide with DCL told to burn himself out in the first hour making way for Moise to have half an hour against a tiring ( hopefully!!) defence. Coleman edges the RB slot as he can still defend well.
Silva has to show his mettle today because organisation of the team and their attitude will be telling- poor organisation and wrong attitude will see us badly beaten. A decent structure with everyone knowing their job and a dogs of war approach will at least see us put in a display to please the crowd and give us hope that Silva can turn this current shambles around.
As Tony Abraham's says, if we can keep Jim off this site this evening ( no offence Jim) by DCL scoring the winning goal then it will be a great day!
I wonder???
Ernie Baywood
41 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:32:25
I'm more worried about our defence than our attack to be honest. If we insist on playing out through Mina then we may as well not turn up. If I can see that you just let him have it and then put pressure on the recipient of Mina's pass then Pep can see it.
Eddie Dunn
42 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:43:37
This team has to display real fighting quality as well as play their best football to ignite our season and restore their own self-confidence.

I honestly think we can cause an upset today but we may need a little luck. At least we won't have the kind of aerial bombardment that our defenders hate.

It will tell us a lot about our team and coach.

Rob Halligan
43 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:45:47
Off topic with this one, but I see the RS face expulsion from the Carabao cup due to fielding an ineligible player on Wednesday night.

Of course, we all know all they will get is a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.

Jamie Evans
44 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:47:54
Thanks Steve. I (like David Pearl) really enjoy your posts but talking about playing a system, or intending (thanks Darren) to play a system is different to actually doing it.

This is not a Silva out rant by the way, far from it. I just think he has the players to play his supposed, preferred system now.

Also, if as you say 4-3-3 is his “we're the superior team” formation then he should be playing it every week and telling his players they are superior, regardless of the opposition.

Really not sure how today is going to go.
Would it be like us to get some kind of result? Probably.

Onward Evertonians.

Laurie Hartley
45 Posted 28/09/2019 at 10:56:48
We have no choice but to have a real crack at this lot so my version of 4-3-3 would be:

Coleman, Keane, Mina, Digne
Sidibé, Delph, Bernard
Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin, Iwobi

Up the Blues!!

Rob Halligan
46 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:05:19
City are short of defenders due to injuries. Contrary to popular belief, we do have the players to hurt them, it's just a question of those players believing in themselves. Is a 3-5-2 formation too risky in this game? We could potentially flood the midfield with Coleman or Sidibe and Digne, thus cutting out their supply to their front line. Would just mean Coleman or Sidibe and Digne having to work their bollocks off. Play Kean and Richarlison up front.

Holgate, Keane, Mina
Coleman/Sidibe, Delph, Iwobi, Sigurdsson, Digne.
Kean, Richarlison.

Martin Nicholls
47 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:09:10
Rob#43 - I think it'll be taken more seriously than that. Maybe ban us instead? Wouldn't be the first time!
Dave Williams
48 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:13:20
Rob #46 that did occur to me too. The risk being if we haven't practiced it but the idea is a good one and if the players bought into it then it would be a good one to try.
Gerry Quinn
49 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:25:14
Everton fans make CNN news in the US of A


Frank Crewe
50 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:29:32
No doubt Silva will be insistent on 4-2-3-1 as usual. This being the case I would go with.

Sidibe, Mina, Keane, Digne
Delph, Shneiderlin
Richarlison, Iwobi, Bernard

Bench. Stek, Coleman, Holgate, Siggi, Kean, Baines, Walcott.

I've benched Coleman because his form has been poor recently so lets see what Sidibe can do. I benched Siggi because I just don't see how he can fit into a 4-2-3-1. He's not mobile or quick footed enough. He just slows us down during transitions. I was temped to play Kean in Bernard's place. He's quick, good dribbler and willing to shoot and maybe would he shine in such a big game. But I suppose opting for the more experienced Bernard is the better choice.
If Delph and Shneiderlin can avoid getting themselves sent off I think that's a side that can give City a run for their money.

Peter Mills
51 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:30:46
Martin #47 - you beat me to it!

Just been reading an interview with Pep, how he “loves his job, watching how a team defends, working out how to break them down”. I wonder what he's been doing with his time this week?

Rob Halligan
52 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:41:05
Martin, it won't happen, as this is what happened to Sunderland a few back.

In 2014, Sunderland were fined by the Premier League and the EFL after they fielded an ineligible player in four league matches and a League Cup match.

The club admitted they made an administrative error with striker Ji Dong-won but were not deducted points or kicked out of the cup.

Trevor Powell
53 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:41:31
An interesting match up of managers. According to managers in the firing line, this is a battle between the least likely to be the next sacked manager AND the most likely to be sacked in the Premier League. If only it was the other way round?
John Davies
54 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:47:01
We Blues are the eternal optimists aren't we? Posts a plenty predicting a shock home win today. It's just wishful thinking on our part & it's not going to happen. BUT I hope I am completely wrong.

What I'd like to see most today is us give it a really good go and our team (ALL of them) breaking their backs out there to give us a reason to get behind them. That's all we can ask and then not get too further down if we lose to the Premier League's best side.

And whilst I have advocated for months now that Silva is not the man to manage our team, you won't hear me calling for his head off the back of a defeat today. It's up to the players today and I hope we see some leadership and fight out there if nothing else. For me it's all about the performance today and not necessarily the result.
COYB !!!

John Kavanagh
55 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:48:26
Rob @46. I can see your thinking, but DCL scored twice in the week. He was subbed and dropped last time he scored. For me, DCL is far more capable of causing problems today and should start. Kean I'd use second half. He should have been brought on against Wednesday. I'd play Sidibe ahead of Coleman, whose form has been very disappointing this season and who is now seen as a weak link by opponents. Sigurdsson is still on holiday this season and Iwobi deserves to start ahead of him. As we are far too slow I'd give Davies another run out in midfield and hope he can produce another goal against them.

Following last weekend's results no one expects us to win or even draw, so it's a free hit. It would be Everton to a tee to shock everyone and give a huge boost to our lovable neighbours.

Oh and please God NO Walcott at any stage. COYB.

Kevin Molloy
56 Posted 28/09/2019 at 11:55:34
We've not been right since game 1 of pre season. I am feeling very let down by the players and manager, to the extent that if they do put in a performance today, it will only raise the question, What about the other 15 games when we have been dreadful?

It seems to me we have two fundamental issues, the centre-back pairing, and the No 10 role. Until these are sorted, don't expect a thing.

Brian Harrison
57 Posted 28/09/2019 at 12:04:42
Couple of hours before setting off for Goodison, more in hope than expectation I am afraid. City are a handful at the best of times but seeing they lost their last away game to Norwich, they will be more determined than ever to make sure they don't lose 2 away games on the bounce.

I am sure the crowd will give the team all the backing they need, but this will be a massive test today. I am sure we will see everybody fully committed but whether that will be enough I don't know. I dont think playing Fernandhino at centre back is a weakness in fact quite the opposite, he is quick and strong and a good reader of the game. Should we lose this game on its own it wouldnt be a massive problem but if other results go against us we could be somewhere near the bottom 3. I know Marcel Brands is saying we need to be patient but I think the pressure on Silva would be immense, I am sure with the relatively easy set of fixtures we have had to be anywhere near the relegation zone would send alarm bells ringing.

Despite us wishing for years to have a billionaire owner and now we have got one the results are getting progressively worse each season. Only this club could have this sort of financial backing and be going backwards. I have no idea what Moshiri must be thinking, but having ploughed 𧹺 million into the black hole that is Everton he must wish that he had never heard of Everton.

Simon Smith
58 Posted 28/09/2019 at 12:33:28
We will lose this 3 or 4-1.
I've already lost hope for this season
Martin Berry
59 Posted 28/09/2019 at 12:42:45
For starters, we need three in the middle to attempt to compete and cut off any supply line so no No 10 today.

Also we must take any advantage of City's weakness at defending crosses, so DCL – step in, pal, his hold-up play and aerial threat is vital.

Any other formation and I think we are going to find it really hard.

George McKane
60 Posted 28/09/2019 at 12:43:30
“Oh That Magic Feeling
Nowhere to go
One sweet dream
Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear away
One sweet dream came true today
Came true today
Came true today (yes, it did)
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven
All good children go to Heaven”

50 year's ago - - (remember Charles Laughton in Hobson's Choice - -" 50 years") - - I remember those days wonderfully well - - just bought The Beatles Album - - spent the whole weekend listening to it in the front parlour at The Britannia Pub at the bottom of Great Mersey Street - - that's where I lived throughout the 50's and 60's - - Bluetiful Days - - - just kept playing it over and over again on my Blue (of course) Dansette Record Player - - - makes you think - - believed Everton were unbeatable then - - loved going the match (still do) - - the walk along Smith Street - - along Wessie Road - - up Spellow Lane and into Goodison - - some days we would walk up The Valley along Walton Breck Road - - past the Church which later in the 70's would famously have a poster outside - - “Jesus Saves” and some Blue Wag wrote underneath “but Latchford nets rebound” - - along past Stanley Park not even turning our heads to the right in case we turned to stone - - and onto Goodison - - my match days these days are - - many would say - - nostalgic and out of date - -- I, of course, would argue - - the football for many years has been dire - - grim - - so I have turned going to watch, generally, a poor dull, dreadful 90 minutes - - watching football and I mean Football in general - - that is corrupt - - phoney - - means little to real people - - there for the rich elite - - that costs me too much money - - into something different - - a newer experience - - where the holistic experience of Being Blue means something - - touches some part of my spirit - - my soul - - my heart - - my brain - - so I go to The Dark House every week - - cannot even drink these days due to illness - - but to see Blue friends - - listen to them - -watch - - it's like being On The Road with The Dharma Bums - - become filled with wonder - - truly A Sense OF Wonder that we are all still Fanatical Blues - - last Saturday after getting beat by Real/Sheffield United - - we sat late into the night talking about Everton Heroes - - favourite games - - favourite times - - remembering a horse tied to a lamppost in Leeds - - a pub full of Sikhs who welcome us like nutcases at WBA - - Stoke away in the Cup - - Kendal and The Window - - and God Bless Sammy Styles (what a Blue)

“I awoke this morning
Love laid me down by a river.
Drifting I turned on upstream
Bound for my forgiver.
In the giving of my eyes to see your face.
Sound did silence me
Leaving no trace.
I beg to leave, to hear your wonderous stories.
Beg to hear your wonderous stories.
He spoke of lands not far
Or lands they were in his mind.
Of fusion captured high
Where reason captured his time.
In no time at all he took me to the gate.
In haste I quickly checked the time.
If I was late I had to leave to hear your wonderous stories.
Had to hear your wonderous stories.
Hearing your wonderous stories.
Hearing your wonderous stories.
It is no lie I can see deeply into the future.
Imagine everything
You're close
And were you there to stand
So cautiously at first and then so high.
As he spoke my spirit climbed into the sky.
I bid it to return
To hear your wonderous stories.
Return to hear your wonderous stories.”

Any good football in between is welcome - - - held in my memory - - shared and loved - - but the camaraderie - - friendship - - warmth - - humour that also draws me - - OHHHH Everton why don't you get this - - don't you understand that we Evertonians are a Wondrous Group - - We Love You - - Remember This - - Keep It Close To Your Heart - - In Your Plans - - We are Wonders of The World Us Blues - - so Friends go to go - - stupid KO time - - go to get ready and go:

Bit of Lennon:

“There are places I'll remember
All my life, though some have changed
Some forever, not for better
Some have gone, and some remain
All these places had their moments
With lovers and friends, I still can recall
Some are dead, and some are living
In my life, I've loved them all
But of all these friends and lovers
There is no one compares with you
And these memories lose their meaning
When I think of love as something new
Though I know I'll never lose affection
For people and things that went before
I know I'll often stop and think about them
In my life, I'll love you more
Though I know I'll never lose affection
For people and things that went before
I know I'll often stop and think about them
In my life I'll love you more
In my life I'll love you more”

Best wishes and Cosmic Blue grooves to you all:

“Won't you look down upon me, Jesus
You've got to help me make a stand
You've just got to see me through another day
My body's aching and my time is at hand
And I won't make it any other way
Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain
I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end
I've seen lonely times when I could not find a friend
But I always thought that I'd see you again
Been walking my mind to an easy time my back turned towards the sun
Lord knows when the cold wind blows it'll turn your head around
Well, there's hours of time on the telephone line to talk about things
To come
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground”

Up The Blues (UTFT) - - George

Anthony Murphy
61 Posted 28/09/2019 at 12:45:02
Although a win/draw is possible, we will probably witness another defeat today. If so the manner of defeat (if that's the case) will be important. A closely fought contest with 100% commitment leaves room for Silva. However, a lacklustre, clueless performance (think last days of Koeman) will ratchet up the pressure with a must win game away at Burnley next up. One thing is for sure, we will see today if the boys are behind the manager.

Additionally I would add that I don't think we will see the club sack Silva even if up and coming results don't go our way.

Dave Lynch
62 Posted 28/09/2019 at 12:45:27
I've just watched the Man City vs Watford game extended highlights.

I'm serious here lads. God fucking help us if they are in that type of mood today.

Cristobal Aguirre
63 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:06:33
David 37,

I agree, this is Everton so anything can happen. I also expect for the players to give their 100%. Having said that, let me be reluctant because I do not trust in our manager and I think we have some players who rarely give his 100%. Everton had been loosing their identity since the second Martinez year that is the main problem from my point of view and the thing I regret the most.

Mike Corcoran
64 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:09:00
Turn the tunes up George, I'm listening out from Seabank Road
Dave Abrahams
65 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:12:43
George (60)as Bob Hope would sing “ Thanks for the memories”. I walked all those streets you talk about or went along them on the No. 3 bus,lovely days so long ago.

George, are you a bit ‘ brassic lint', you never mentioned the 4-0 bet this week, surely youhaven't give up on that ?

Anyway best wishes as always,hope it is a very happy evening in the Dark House tonight.

Derek Knox
66 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:33:00
Dave, maybe George's bookie has made that much he now living in the Bahamas! :-)
George McKane
67 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:36:13
Dave and Derek - - running gag in TDh - - Mick The Bookie has a place in Spain - - no wonder - - will put 4-0 on today - - memories of my 4 - 0 @100:1 recorded on French TV.

Mick - - nice to hear from you - - just off to the game now.


Tony Abrahams
68 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:37:39
Your paragraph about football being phoney, captures my thoughts George, but As hard as it is, I will always love my team, even if I'm falling out of love with football. UP THE FOOKING TOFFEES, INDEED!
Rob Marsh
69 Posted 28/09/2019 at 13:50:41
Mike Gaynes # 1

You've certainly got out of bed this morning in a winning mood.

Yes please, I'll have a glass or two of whatever you were drinking last night!

Rob Marsh
70 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:11:29
Dave Lynch # 62

Dave, remember the look on the faces of Mike Tyson's opponents as they stood on the opposite side of the ring waiting for the first round bell to ring?

That's us, we're about to become Mike's next victim!

Rabbit caught in the headlights!

Dave Lynch
71 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:18:20
But I'm still praying for a Buster Douglas type moment Rob.
Danny Broderick
72 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:29:38
City are one of the best teams in Europe at the minute. Let's just hope we give it a good go and see where it takes us. It's a free hit really, as no one will be expecting us to get anything today, and surely even Silva will not be in the firing line. I say that more through hope than belief!
Michael Burke
73 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:31:40
Bringing my boy down from the north east for his first ever game today. Hoping he gets the bug and supports the blues and not his hometown team!
Rob Marsh
74 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:41:34
Dave # 71

They're going to need to be having another Norwich day, I can't see that twice in the same season or so close to each other.

We're certainly not going to "float like a butterfly and sting like a bee".

Do you rememeber Tyson v Spinks? That's how I think today will go, what there is of it is worth a watch on youtube.

Derek Knox
75 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:51:08
Rob, recently we haven't even been able 'to float like a bee and sting like a butterfly'.

I see the RS have scraped a win again, watched most of the game, luck is still with them, SU should have had a corner but it was deemed a goal kick to RS, among other favourable decisions.

Jay Wood

76 Posted 28/09/2019 at 14:57:34
I really hope we go nowhere near three at the back today as some propose.

After an impressive start last season when Silva set us up away from home to play our game, rather than compromise to stop the opposition, away to City was when, for me, he 'blinked' for the first time and played Kean-Zouma-Mina in a back three. It was disastrous.

Shortly after half time, but only after going 2-0 down, he changed the shape again to a flat back four and we were immediately better for it, defensively and offensively.

As Rob March says, with this City team Norwich results are truly 'Blue Moonish'. Very rare occurrences. Everton is so bipolar in its performances. But the personnel and a large make-up of the team that closed out last season so well are still at the club.

It's time for them to show up.

Rob Marsh
77 Posted 28/09/2019 at 15:01:21
Derek # 75

Lady luck adores that lot across the park, they'll nearly always get any that's going.

Having said that, their average game is so much better than ours and that's why they're testing City so closely.

Dave Lynch
78 Posted 28/09/2019 at 15:05:39
I do Rob@74.
Trump arena if memory serves me right.

They said a body shot put him down first but he hit him with a lovely left uppercut just before that.

Ashley Roberts
79 Posted 28/09/2019 at 15:19:33
I just hope Silva learned something from last week's debacle? All the press seem to have him hanging by a thread and the next one for the chop. If he plays the same team as last week and the same tactics, we will get thumped and I think I would probably have to say that the end would be near. If I see a pairing of Schneiderlin and Delph in the middle of a defensive midfield we might as well just roll the dice to see the humiliating score.
David Thomas
80 Posted 28/09/2019 at 15:23:58
Steve 26

If we lose today the pressure should be on from all sides.

If we start the season with 4 defeats after 7 games and the pressure wasn't on I'd be even more worried because that would mean most people aren't surprised and just expect Everton to lose regularly.

Annika Herbert
82 Posted 28/09/2019 at 15:48:59
Steve #'21, Sigurdsson one of our best players? Sorry but I am just not seeing it.
Steavey Buckley
83 Posted 28/09/2019 at 16:11:16
Everton went into the new season without a regular goalscorer, that is the main reason why the points haul has been disappointing, which is condemning Everton to another disappointing season.

If, by a miracle, Everton win today, it will only help Liverpool win the Premier League. So it's going to be one of those games, damned if you do or damned if you don't.

Jay Wood

84 Posted 28/09/2019 at 16:14:39
No such mixed emotions for me, Steavey Buckley.

I want an Everton win. ALWAYS!

Mike Gaynes
85 Posted 28/09/2019 at 16:20:41
Dave #71 and Rob #74, I knew Buster Douglas. Worked out with him a couple of times. Even when he was just an obscure ham-and-egger who didn't like boxing, he and his manager John Johnson were always convinced he had the tools to whup Tyson, if they could ever get the fight. They finally did... and he did.

Of course, winning the title was nearly the death of Buster, but that's another story.

Gerry #49, good job spotting that! Hope you and yours are well. And to any of the County Road Bobblers who may be on TW, please pass along our congratulations to your group. Superb gesture.

Tony #9, best post of the day.

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