Ramirez joins Valladolid on loan

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Updated Striker Sandro Ramirez is to make another temporary move back to Spain with Valladolid.

The 23-year-old is surplus to Marco Silva's requirements at Everton and concluded talks with the Liga side over what initially appeared to be a permanent move but is now confirmed as a season-long loan deal.

Formerly of Barcelona, Sandro was signed by Ronald Koeman amid much optimism from Malaga in 2017 for a little over £5m but his switch to the Premier League has been a failure thus far.

He scored just one goal for Everton, that a consolation strike in the 5-1 Europa League thrashing at the hands of Atalanta, before being loaned out to Sevilla and then Real Sociedad.  

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Chris Mason
1 Posted 02/07/2019 at 14:23:12
He hasn't scored for 19 years so we are lucky anyone will have him, frankly.
Tom Bowers
2 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:25:49
Like a few other forwards at Everton he has been less than impressive. I am surprised he has been here as long as he has.
Why do they have such inept scouting ?
Pat Kelly
3 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:31:02
Just in case fans of Valladolid are looking in, Sandro is a snip at £20m. I don't know how we'll manage without him but it would be unfair to stand in his way if he wants to return home. You're getting the best left back in the business. He was left back most of his time with Everton.
Si Pulford
4 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:32:02
Truly awful footballer. I know there will be some people on here saying ‘he didn't get a chance' etc but he is a horrific footballer who just isn't suited to top level football. Get rid. Move on. The money we've spent trying to replace Lukaku is ridiculous. We don't need a 30 goal a season striker but why has it been so hard to get one who might make double figures.
John Keating
5 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:39:55
To be quite honest I think if we could get rid without paying a team to take him would be remarkable

Well done if this is the case

Brian Williams
6 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:45:58
Here, this'll give you a lift.


Mike Gaynes
7 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:49:29
Hope there is some Valladolidity to this report.

He'd be a fine player if someone could explain to him that the big white rectangular thing at the end of the pitch is actually related to the objective of the game.

I'm 63 years old, and I play on a men's open league team of 25-year-olds (when I'm healthy enough and they're desperate for players), and, in the past two years, I have scored more goals (2) than Sandro (1).

Dave Williams
8 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:53:31
The scouting which resulted in us buying him plus Klaassen and Bolasie really makes you question what Walsh was doing. I remember the delegation which went to Italy for several days and came back empty-handed – what was that about?

Sandro and Davy were totally unsuited to the Premier League as neither could cope with the level of fitness and strength required. Bolasie was a show pony similar to the likes of Beagrie. Dreadful amount of money recklessly squandered.

Fingers crossed Sandro leaves without us having to pay up part of his contract. His transfer fee was low but his wages are huge... get rid!

Sam Hoare
10 Posted 02/07/2019 at 15:55:01
From what I've heard, this move would be a loan.
Jim Bennings
13 Posted 02/07/2019 at 16:25:49
Even from a few games in it was obvious that Sandro was not the most gifted of footballers, he played the game like a kid on the playground, simply getting the ball and blasting it from anywhere, most ended in Row Z in the Park End or Street End.

Can only assume that the 14-goal season at Malaga was a fluke, a rare exception to the rule.

Wherever he goes from now though he needs to put down some roots and make a career for himself, the Premier League just wasn't for him at this moment in time.

Kenny Smith
14 Posted 02/07/2019 at 16:32:17
The captain of my all time Shittest Everton XI.
Tony Everan
15 Posted 02/07/2019 at 16:46:43
Probably earns more than the rest of the Valladolid starting 11 put together, so I think we will be paying for him to go.
Geoff Trenner
17 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:15:20
Brian, gave me a lift. I remember as a young boy watching it live on TV and crying and leaving the room when Wednesday scored the second. Only my old Dad telling me that Everton had got one back brought me back into the room. I cried again when Derek Temple got the winner and again on the final whistle!
Peter Warren
18 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:22:21
Since I've been watching the blues regularly (90s) I can only remember us signing 2 very good strikers being Ferguson and Campbell. The Yak was okay as too was Lukaku but had limitations.

Our acquisitions of strikers has been unbelievably bad for 30 years! Only Rooney has been world class and he was world class at 15!

Duncan McDine
19 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:30:59
Peter (18), you're right, we haven't done well signing strikers and this fella is certainly one of the worst. Despite his limitations though, I'd put Lukaku ahead of Ferguson, Campbell and Yakubu.
Peter Roberts
21 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:40:05
Peter Warren,

The Yak's only limitation was his ability to link up play but that wasn't what we bought him for. We bought him as a goal poacher and that he certainly was. Sadly he was never the same player after his Achilles injury.

Eddie Dunn
22 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:47:33
Mike @7... Valladolidity! Great stuff!
Joe McMahon
23 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:50:55
Even everyone's fave, Steven Naismith, couldn't hold a place at Norwich in the Championship. We have had on the whole truly awful strikers at Everton for decades. It's sickening when our neighbours score for fun.
Jack Convery
24 Posted 02/07/2019 at 17:51:59
In 1968 Jeff Astle caused me to cry for EFC. That was the first time and unfortunately it wasn't the last. My tear ducts are worn out and I gave up on my finger nails a long long time ago.

Good luck to Sandro - score 17 goals lad and we might get our money back.

Kevin Molloy
25 Posted 02/07/2019 at 18:08:33
All the utterly disastrous signings were Koeman's; I'm convinced this was also one of his. Klaassen, Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Martina... 㿞m on Sigurdsson, he has wasted about 𧵧m when you take wages into account. My only consolation is that the blond dickhead is awake night after night worrying about how he blew Moyes's golden financial legacy in about six months, but I suspect he sleeps like a baby.

If Marcel hadn't come in and saved us with some terrific signings last year, god knows where we'd be.

Paul Setter
26 Posted 02/07/2019 at 18:24:45
It's like trying to flog a dead horse.
Frank Wade
27 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:09:26
This is the player we thought we were signing for €5m.

Sandro Ramírez | Malaga | Goals, Skills, Assists | 2016/17 - HD

I've seen worse players in an Everton shirt. I don't know what happened when he got to Finch Farm, but I and many others were happy.

I located Lyndon's article on the signing: Everton seal Sandro transfer. Unfortunately, all the ToffeeWeb comments saying this was a disastrous signing have been removed.

Brian Williams
28 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:19:06
Watched the footage from the first link. He must have been playing against some shit teams there!

Bottom line is that he's just not good enough for the Premier League.

Martin Berry
29 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:21:38
Sandro's credit rating must be good to have all these loans!!

On saying that, I wish the lad well and hope he moves on.

David Hallwood
30 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:27:59
Yet another player signed on the back of a decent World Cup (U21). He won't be the last.
Steavey Buckley
31 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:32:21
It is 2 years since Lukaku left Everton and Everton have not found another striker who can average 1 goal every 2 games but Everton have found a striker who can't score goals even though he is given bags of money for not finding the back of the net. Koeman has to be the worst manager in Everton's history to spend so much money with little or no return on investment.
Hugh Jenkins
32 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:46:37
Mike (7), If Koeman was still here, with that scoring record, he would have signed you like a shot – but I doubt if we could get a work permit due to your lack of international appearances.
Christy Ring
33 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:50:24
Sadly Sandro won't be gone until his contract runs out – no-one is going to match the huge salary he's on.

I remember when Chelsea signed Bogarde in 2000, he was on 㿔k per week: he played 11 games in his first season, he played 1 more game in the next 3 seasons, wouldn't move because of the money. Then again could you blame him?

Jim Bennings
34 Posted 02/07/2019 at 19:56:18
It brings home really that not many other clubs would have misused so much money when taking in 㿲 million for a prolific striker that at that time, Lukaku had just recorded back-to-back 25-goal seasons. We still, two years on haven't replaced him with a natural finisher and number 9, a clinical front player worth his salt.

Steve Walsh should have been taken to court for the gross neglect that took place and as for Koeman, too much time spent on the golf course in summer 2017 thinking he had Giroud “in the bag” rather than seeing what was going on under his nose.

Si Smith
35 Posted 02/07/2019 at 20:04:42
Jim, I agree the money was wasted, but many clubs have done it, do you think Man Utd spent well after Ronaldo's exit? Spurs after Bale? Liverpool after Suarez?

Imo, all the above spent almost as bad as us, none improved, most sacked managers afterwards.

Our biggest problem was we hammered the transfer window on around 10 players who didn't really better the team.

Rooney, Vlasic, Williams, Schneiderlin, Sandro – all pretty much flopped, so did all the others really apart from Sigurdsson, and he struggled once Koeman decided to play him wide.

We have to take it on the chin, get the wage bill down, kick our wounds and crack back on. We should just be thankful Moshiri allows us to keep spending!!!

Buying Tosun and Walcott was another waste of a fortune, add that to Sam's paydays and we lost unbelievable amounts of good money.

Frank Crewe
36 Posted 02/07/2019 at 20:09:29
I remember when Koeman signed this guy we thought he was a steal at £5 million. Looks like he's been stealing a living off Everton ever since. We're never going to sell him. Just have to keep loaning him until his contract runs out. What a waste.
Ray Roche
37 Posted 02/07/2019 at 20:16:53
Si, don't forget the £10m Roberto trousered as compo.
Lev Vellene
38 Posted 02/07/2019 at 20:51:05
Actually, when we signed him, I thought he looked like the quickie we needed just outside, and then inside the box!

No matter how it went wrong here, I can't understand why it all fell apart for him back in Spain? There was obviously ability there to get into positions to put that final ball away!

Oh, well. Much regret, but I hope he makes it wherever!

Fran Mitchell
39 Posted 02/07/2019 at 20:53:47
Just hope they are paying at least 50% of his wages. And with any luck, he'll do well enough to convince them to make it permanent.
Derek Knox
40 Posted 02/07/2019 at 21:04:33
Should be having this same conversation next year, by all accounts it's reported to be another loan, so we will have to put the Testimonial on ice.

Thanks also, to the thousands who volunteered to drive him to the Airport, but it could be a Taxi Service you may come to regret.

Mike G, Valladolidity? 😂

Keith Gleave
41 Posted 02/07/2019 at 21:15:41
Sky sports report loan is done.
Christy Ring
42 Posted 02/07/2019 at 21:17:08
Jim @34, agree completely, it's staggering to think we sold a prolific striker, Lukaku, who scored 25 goals in his last season, and Koeman and Walsh wasted the money on three No 10s, and no striker.
Tommy Surgenor
43 Posted 02/07/2019 at 21:18:07
For what it's worth, I thought he was okay before he came to us. Just okay. Workmanlike.

For those of you into your stats, I remember reading that he exceeded his expected goals metric in Spain for that one fluke season. He shouldn't have scored as many as he did. He just caught lightning in a bottle that year.

All seasons prior, he had a much lower expected goals. Meaning he wasn't getting into scoring positions and, when he did, he was wasteful.

I'm not sure what weight to put in that new “expected goals” stat as it's only been around a few years.

Tommy Carter
44 Posted 02/07/2019 at 21:29:44
Good luck to him. I hope he does well. It wasn't his fault that the senior figures at our club threw money at him with big wages. I'm sure he's tried his best, whenever I saw him play I didn't think he was ever not trying. But he did have a bit of the 'rabbit in the headlights' look about him. Because I think he realised what everyone else could see that he was garbage at Premier League level. He probably has many qualities but none were suited to the English Premier League, or Europa League football.

As for Peter Warren @15. To put Duncan Ferguson ahead of Lukaku is absurd.

Granted when he first signed in 1994-95, loan and permanent there was no doubt we were signing one of the hottest striking prospects in British Football. However, he failed to live up to his potential for a large number of reasons. Discipline was one, missed too many games through suspension and cost us games by putting us down to ten men. Injury, missed a lot of games through injury. Not his fault.

But most importantly this was a guy who simply could find no consistency at all in his motivation. He'd be unbelievable against Liverpool and Man Utd. But when we were rank desperate for 3 points at the Dell, or a performance at Highfield Road, even against the likes of bog-standard Wimbledon sides at home, this man was nowhere to be seen. Hence why we were often in a relegation battle. This man was a 10- to 12-goal-a-season striker at best.

Brian Wilkinson
45 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:01:28
Made Rod Belfit look like Dixie Dean, so poor he even failed to score against ATV Irdning in our 22-0 win.

Has to be one of the worst signings ever.

Paul Dewhurst
46 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:10:44
Christy – For that, someone needs shooting! How the Lukaku deal was signed without the replacement deal being done first is criminal... and then the three Number 10s.

It's the worst business we have done since selling Lineker and spending the money on a new roof on the Gladwys Street stand.

Andy Meighan
47 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:11:32
Kenny @14, Brilliant. But I'd actually make him player-manager of my all-time shittest XI.
Mike Gaynes
48 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:12:49
Hugh #32, thanks for the laugh!

I do have one international appearance. Pickup game in Hong Kong. But I was wearing an Argentina shirt at the time.

DK and Eddie, glad you liked that one. I was a little sleepy when I posted it, that's my only excuse for such a painful pun.

Hugh Jenkins
49 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:36:22
The fear that haunts me with all players like Sandro is... we eventually let them go and they sign for another Premier League side – then explode onto the scene as a 20-goal-a-season striker, year on year. It keeps me awake at night.
Sam Hoare
50 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:43:43
I see that Leicester are signing Perez from Newcastle for 㿀m. I think that will be a very decent signing for them. He's a smart player who can do a bit of everything. Apparently he created more chances from open play than Sigurdsson last season.
Steve Ferns
51 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:46:27
Mike, that game in Hong Kong, was that the one against England when our own Dave Watson turned out for them and was the best defender on the pitch by a mile. How that man only got 18 caps and had to watch the likes of Butcher and Wright playing ahead of him, god only knows.

As for Sandro. Good to see that video again. If you watch it thinking Sandro is shit, then there's some signs, the control is not quite close enough, and there's some luck combined with some bad defending. But you have to say, if the lad gets a head of steam up, his touch is not bad. He's just not as quick as he needs to be and clearly needs confidence to hit the back of the net, but then what striker didn't? I think he'll come good again, but he's not a top class player and bottom half of La Liga is his level.

Darren Hind
52 Posted 02/07/2019 at 22:52:55
He could have been the Spanish Andy Johnson; sadly he simply didn't have it.
Steve Ferns
53 Posted 02/07/2019 at 23:08:50
The question is, Darren, just how good was Andy Johnson, if Sandro didn't have it to be the Spanish version?

Personally, I'll never forget That Hat-trick. One of the best days ever. He gets a lot of respect for that, but he doesn't make a Premier League era top-five list for Everton strikers for me.

Don't know about you though?

Rob Dolby
54 Posted 02/07/2019 at 23:10:56
The lad won the Euro millions the day he signed for us. I don't recall many other teams in the mix for him at the time.

A lightweight poor man's Jason Statham earning stupid amounts of money.

We are desperate for a striker... Would anyone take Lukaku back?

Steve Ferns
55 Posted 02/07/2019 at 23:17:50
Sure Rob, I hear we need a big strong lad for the ground work on the new stadium!

Only joking, he'd be our best striker still, but he's moved on, and we've moved on. We'd need to completely adjust our tactics to accommodate him and so whilst he's better than we have, would the team be better for having him, especially when we'd have to sacrifice a lot financially to get him back.

Anyway, let's see if Calvert-Lewin can have a top pre-season and start banging the goals in and silence his critics. Meanwhile, maybe Simms will score six against the Kenyans and force his way into Silva's thinking? Maybe Tosun will put on those tight shorts again and start scoring for fun in pre-season and not stop once the season kicks off.

Or maybe Brands will pull off a master stroke and we will forget all about Romelu. Gonna be an interesting summer for sure.

Liam Reilly
56 Posted 02/07/2019 at 23:23:53
In the very minority but I'm sad about this.

I was very excited about his signing and I still believe there's a player in there. His confidence is shot to shit but should it return?

Bit like I say, I'm in the minority.

Brian Wilkinson
57 Posted 03/07/2019 at 00:47:55
Hugh @49, I would not let the thought of Sandro banging in 20 goals in a season keep you awake, mate.

I think me with Mark Labett strapped to my back has a better chance of winning the Grand National, than Sandro banging in 20 goals, mate.

Sleep easy.

Peter Gorman
58 Posted 03/07/2019 at 02:21:31
Darren, is he the Spanish Andy Johnson by virtue of his male-pattern baldness?
Peter Morris
59 Posted 03/07/2019 at 03:32:46
Sandro has got to be the highest paid player no-one has ever heard off. I reckon he gets his money left in an envelope for a courier to pick up for him. You get obscenities like these when there is too much money in the hands of people who don't have the talent to use it properly. Walsh and Koeman won't even remember doing the deal I expect.
Derek Knox
60 Posted 03/07/2019 at 03:43:05
Knew it wouldn't be long before someone snapped him up, being confirmed by all sources. :-)
Tommy Carter
61 Posted 03/07/2019 at 06:36:29
@51 Steve

Waggy was a very good defender and no more.

The two you mention, Wright and Butcher were far superior players. If Weight were not so injury prone he'd have won even more caps. He was an excellent player.

In an era of Bould, Adams, Walker, Mabbut, Pallister, Keown and even fellow ex-Canary centre-back Steve Bruce winning no caps at all I think Dave Watson will be pleased he managed 12 caps.

Hugh Jenkins
62 Posted 03/07/2019 at 06:39:26
Brian (57) - Thanks for the reassurance. I will try... LOL.
Ralph Basnett
63 Posted 03/07/2019 at 06:39:56
Si (4), what a crazy statement that we don't need a 30-goal-a-season striker, just one that gets in to double figures?

So you would be happy if we had Austin, Crouch, Calvert-Lewin kind of striker rather than a Lacazette, Aubameyang, Salah, Aguero kind of striker?

The difference being the first ones are in also-ran teams such as ourselves and the latter in top teams.


Dave Abrahams
64 Posted 03/07/2019 at 09:38:13
Steve (53), sorry but which hat-trick are you referring to?
Steve Ferns
65 Posted 03/07/2019 at 10:17:34
Tommy, I disagree. I feel Butcher was not fit to lace Watson's boots and whilst it shows the strength of the English game as to the quality of players we had to choose from, Watson was head and shoulders better than the pair of them. Gary Pallister only had about 20 caps despite being the best English Defender of his generation and Man Utd captain Steve Bruce was uncapped. I always questioned the England team in those eras as they had a bigger pool of players to pick from and in my eyes, blue bias or not, they overlooked our lot time and again.

Dave, sorry it was a brace! My memory of the game is a little hazy now, probably the amount I had to drink that day, and the picture is always of him holding up three fingers and so my memory transformed that into a hattrick, but having check I do remember Cahill's opener and can't believe how long ago that game was now.

Ralph, we didn't need a 30 goal a season striker last time we won the league. We sold Lineker and Sharpy was injured for a large part of the season. Instead we had a load of players score a lot of goals.

How often does the league's top scorer play for the side that wins the league? Alan Shearer was top scorer nearly every season he played and yet he only won the league once, and that season he was not top scorer!

We do not need one player to score 30 goals, we need to score goals, it does not matter who gets them. If we share them around like in 1987 and win the league, who would moan about DCL leading the line and scoring 9? The point Si was making is that Dominic can bring others into the attack and as long as the goals are scored to win us the games, then the name on the score sheet does not matter.

Gary Ashworth
66 Posted 03/07/2019 at 10:29:10
I had high hopes for this guy when he arrived for what felt like a bargain. High hopes came from the fact he was (at one time) a promising prospect from Barcelona's academy. He did well in their B team and at Malaga, but something went wrong in the UK.

I know from personal experience that it takes time to adapt to the challenges of living/working abroad, but I think whatever his issues, they are still there. Three different clubs with a combined 40+ appearances and not one single goal!! Sad thing is he's only 24 on a downward slope now, Sevilla to Sociedad and now Valladolid.

John Hall
67 Posted 03/07/2019 at 10:45:28
He really is a loan forward.
Paul Burns
68 Posted 03/07/2019 at 11:28:27
Tommy Carter, get a grip, Dave Watson was a far superior player to both of those donkeys and had the medals to prove it.

It seems even some our "supporters" are unable to distinguish good players from average.

Derek Knox
69 Posted 03/07/2019 at 11:52:09
Liam @56, I will jump to Sandro's defence too, but only this once, he has scored more goals in his 2 years with us than Tony Hibbert scored in his whole Everton career.

We could risk missing that goal come the end of the season, just imagine getting pipped at the post for the Premier League title by one goal, it would be all Sandro's fault! :-)

Phil Smith
70 Posted 03/07/2019 at 13:57:28
There is a player in there but he's not a striker. Not sure what his best position is. His confidence has taken a nosedive since he "failed" at Everton. Hopefully he can relaunch his career at a club where he's not under a microscope. Good luck to the lad.
Tommy Carter
71 Posted 03/07/2019 at 13:59:37
@65 Steve

Terry Butcher has a lot of top-evel experience at World Cups and in Europe acquired before Waggy would have even been remotely near contention for an international cap. He was the mainstay of a superb Ipswich defence. To say he wasn't fit to lace the boots of Watson is nothing short of absurd. Upon leaving Ipswich, he had the pick of any top English club really. He chose Rangers for his own reasons.

@68 Paul.

Surely you aren't serious? Unless I'm mistaken, Watson won a League Championship medal. Then he was the mainstay of a side that went into freefall thereafter. He featured in our worst ever top-flight sides. A brief reprieve and a further FA Cup and Charity Shield medal in 1995.

Hardly laden with medals.

Tommy Carter
72 Posted 03/07/2019 at 14:02:51
Added to my previous comment, Steve & Paul. Watson was ideally suited to the direct style of the English game. I don't think he'd have coped well in tournament football for England.

Throughout his career he was massively exposed by pace. Ian Wright destroyed him often, as did Les Ferdinand. He didn't have enough to deal with players as technically gifted and paced as those two.

By the time he was up against Overmars in 1998, it was like he was playing a different game entirely,

Gavin Scott
73 Posted 03/07/2019 at 16:15:53
Can't we just play him in the U23s? At least get some return on our investment... or is he that bad?
David Pearl
74 Posted 03/07/2019 at 17:59:45
Well, no option to buy and they couldn't afford his full wages. His agent earned his money when he got his Everton contract, didn't he?
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
75 Posted 03/07/2019 at 20:03:17
If his problem is confidence, why does he not move to a summer league (Scandinavia) and bang in a few goals?

Confidence back and ready for a new season.

No, I would rather play in a league where I will be lucky to score and feel even less like trying and take a bigger nosedive in wages when it is all over.

Brian Wilkinson
76 Posted 03/07/2019 at 21:59:02
Phil@70, left back mate, preferably let back in the changing rooms, slicing the oranges for half time.
John Maxwell
77 Posted 04/07/2019 at 04:04:32
For 120k a week, would you want to leave ? Take it easy out on loan and 5 years later I have 31 million in the bank for nothing really what would you do ?

He was always a risk at only 5million but it wasn't long until we realised he wasn't good enough or suited to the EPL.

Someone needs hanging out to put him on that salary.

To respond to comments about Lukaku, he is by far the best striker we've had since Lineker, sure he has his faults but he is our leading PL scorer for a reason... We haven't replaced him and look lost without him.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
78 Posted 04/07/2019 at 06:21:21
John @#77

I am sure the way the powers at the time we thinking - £36m over 5 years for a 20 goal a season striker from Spain. That is a bargain.

And I do recall significant enthusiasm on here for a steal by Walsh and Koeman. How did we ALL get it so wrong?

Kevin Prytherch
79 Posted 04/07/2019 at 06:40:05
Does anyone actually know that he's on £120k a week when some fairly accurate websites quote £65k a week?
Brian Williams
80 Posted 04/07/2019 at 08:18:20
Kevin. He isn't and never was on £120k a week. That figure is another example of rumour being repeated often enough to become accepted as fact.
As you say there are a number of "reliable" websites that put the figure, more accurately as £65k a week.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
81 Posted 04/07/2019 at 08:58:42
So it was only £22m for a 5 year deal.

Even bigger bargain

at the time.

Kevin Prytherch
82 Posted 04/07/2019 at 09:15:18
I know many lament Steve Walsh on here, and there are some obvious failings. But was he as bad as everyone makes out?

Here's the signings under him, you decide..

Stek - probably signed by Koeman
Gueye - definite success
Williams - regarded by many as what we needed at the time
Bolasie - poor
Calvert-Lewin- rumoured to have been signed by Unsworth
Valencia - who?
Lookman - still bags of potential
Schneiderlin - Koeman signing
Klaassen - poor but highly regarded
Pickford - definite success
Keane - success
Sandro - regarded as a steal at the time
Rooney - Kenwright signing?
Martina - Koeman signing?
Sigurdsson- success but overpriced
Vlasic - made a profit (just)
Tosun - awful, Walsh or Allardyce?
Walcott - poor, Walsh or Allardyce?

I'm sure there were a few youth signings dotted about as well such as Gibson, but not 100% sure.

Walsh could definitely have been better and I am glad we have Brands in his place now. But he wasn't all bad.

Tommy Carter
83 Posted 04/07/2019 at 09:50:02
@82 Kevin

Unsworth is signing nobody Kevin. Absolutely no say in transfers I would suggest.

Keane being a ‘success' would be far too early to say.

I think you also have to judge it on how bad some of the signings have been. Not just the amount of good vs bad.

For example is it worth having 5 truly horrendous overpriced players for every Idrissa Gueye that is signed. I would argue not

Kevin Prytherch
84 Posted 04/07/2019 at 09:54:05
Tommy - I didn't say he was a success, just not as bad as some would make out.

As for Calvert-Lewin, it was rumoured at the time that Unsworth was given a say in some under 23 transfer activity and the likes of Calvert-Lewin, Matty Foulds and that guy who came to us in unusual circumstances (Donkor I think) were attributed to Unsworth. In Calvert-Lewin's case, Unsworth knew about him from Sheff Utd.

Jason Broome
85 Posted 04/07/2019 at 10:40:15
I hope he scores lots of goals so that we can sell him next year.

As for the incompetent Koeman and Walsh fiasco they are nothing more than a sickening virus that won't die and that we are still paying for.

Shit tactics, predictable slow football, 4 No. 10s and no striker, failure to sign Barkley to a 5 year deal, pissing away the Lukaku money and buying (in most part) dogs of war era level players whilst spurs and liverpool leapt forward.

Even Hitler did less harm to all things Everton.

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