Unconvincing win restores a little bit of pride

With the hectic Festive programme out the way, Carlo Ancelotti has finally had a full week with the players on the training pitch
Everton 1 - 0 Brighton
Everton turn their focus back to the only remaining business of the 2019-20 season and that is making a concerted push for the top six over the remaining 17 games of the Premier League campaign.
Davies, Bernard & Keane start as very one strives to forget the horrors of last weekend, Carlo Ancelotti promising that this is the first day of anew era at Everton. Mina, Coleman and Schneiderlin drop to the bench.
Brighton kicked off, Dunk getting his first touch early on. Everton tried to pass the ball around but it was a scrappy. Start, Sig with a clumsy tackle, the free.kick causing havoc but Pickford then grasping it out of the air. Some half-decent attacking ended within Walcott running in, getting pulled back by Duffy, and finally the VAR check came but no penalty despite the clear pullback.
Some decent crosses were headed away by Duffy before they reached Calvert-Lewin, who later got into good space but nothing really came of it. More good build-up play ensued but that perennial final ball, this time in from Digne, missed everyone. But at least it was Everton controlling the play. Bernard played in Calvert-Lewin but Ryan was out very quickly to deny him the shot.
Brighton finally mounted a good offensive move Jahanbakhsh shooting high over Pickford's bar. Richarlison could only do the same with a dreadful strike of a great feed from Bernard at the other end. Bernard once again forced a decent ball to Walcott, thanks to a defection off a defender, and Walcott was again impeded as he shot: nothing given.
Everton had heavily, almost leadenly controlled the first quarter of the contest with ominously few real chances created. Calvert-Lewin Got behind again and tried a finish that was way above his pay grade, from an impossible angle the ball missing the far post by mere inches. What a goal that would have been!
Bernard lashed a shot of Dunks chest, with every Evertonian screaming for a penalty that never was. Sidibe then demonstrated why he's not a forward, launching a hopeless shot beyond the goal with at least 3 other players waiting for a meaningful cross.
Richarlison managed to injure himself as seemingly only he can, needing treatment off the sidelines. Walcott got in but passes to a defender; perhaps there was space for a shot?
Richarlison was next to be played in but Matt Ryan fully had the measure of his goal bound attempt. Richardson would then find the back of the net with some fine football, a really good goal by the Brazilian, turning well and firing far beyond Ryan but just inside the post.
A great ball in seemed destined for Keane to finish but the slightest glance from Duffy redirected the ball onto the Everton defenders arm and the chance never came. Holgate accidentally caught someone with a high boot.
After the restart, Holgate got a push In the back but was far too dramatic in his reaction. Calvert-Lewin got bundled over and needed treatment. Trossard got some space to deliver a teasing shot that beat Pickford but not the bar.
Signs and Rich showed some good invention down the left but the cross was easily volley.ed behind. Brighton were seeing more of the ball as they made a double-change, while Ancelotti looked on passively, biding his time, with the crowd less than convinced by this lukewarm 2nd half display.
Bernard did well to play in Calvert-Leon but Ryan pulled off a vital save from a rare almost powerful shot from the Yorkshireman. Ancelotti decided it was time for Delph to come on as Richarlison put in some good moves. At the other end, Holgate had to scoop a cross over Pickford and his goal as Brighton threatened, and Bernard was withdrawn for Fabian Delph. Walcott off for Coleman was the next change by the Italian maestro.
Richarlison got through but Dunk in close attention prevented a meaningful strike for a corner. Keane's header hit the bar then Calvert-Lewis bundled it in over the line with his arm (so says VAR) and an ensuing injury multiplied by a yellow card for his troubles.
Glen Murray forced a fine save from Pickford, with Mina then coming on as Brighton threatened from a corner inside the final 10 minutes, with the Everton defence living on their nerves, Diane the one coming off, to protect an injury.
Calvert-Lewin chased down a ball and wanted a corner but no dice. Duffy put his arm across Holgate's face, bringing him down.
Scorer: Richarlison (40')
Everton: Pickford; Sidibé, Keane, Holgate, Digne; Walcott, Sigurdsson, Davies, Bernard; Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin.
Subs: Lössl, Baines, Delph, Mina, Schneiderlin, Coleman, Kean.
Brighton & Hove Albion: Ryan; Webster, Duffy, Dunk; Montoya, Propper, Stephens, Bernardo; Jahanbakhsh, Trossard; Maupay.
Subs: Button, Schelotto, Bissouma, Gross, March, Murray, .
Referee: David Coote
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2 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:13:40
3 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:22:22
Gordon didn't make the bench (many were predicting he would actually play).
I think that CA is going to try to use the senior players to get as many points as possible on the board against the perceived "weaker" teams and then we may see some youngsters being given a start - but, for now, professionalism dictates that the first priority is points on the board.
4 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:24:09
Not the side I'd have picked but maybe last chance saloon for some of them.
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5 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:26:35
Coleman, Mina, Delp and Davies I believe are in that group, so Carlo not risking exposing our limited options further, for example, at centre back by pairing Mina and Keane together and pushing Mason Holgate into midfield as Duncan did.
For anyone bewailing the continued inclusion of Siggy, Delph and Schneiderlin in the match day squad, they are basically all we've got at present. No exasperation or chagrin at their continued inclusion will change that unless and until players return from injury or new recruits for their position come in.
The uplift to the club and the fanbase Ducan Ferguson gave in his tenure was completely deflated last Sunday. I expect the Goodison crowd to be a wee bit subdued initially. It is up to the team to perform to get them back on side.
If they fail to do that, things could get very toxic very quickly.
6 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:30:19
7 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:35:54
8 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:36:45
9 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:57:04
10 Posted 11/01/2020 at 14:58:35
Cant understand that at all...I'm no fan of Mina, but Keane is abysmal.
11 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:00:10
12 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:00:50
13 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:04:14
14 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:10:58
As far as skill set and experience and price tag is concerned Siggy is one of our top drawer players. Yes his performances this season havent reached the goal scoring and performance levels of last season, but hes still one of our top players when hes on song. Trick is finding his best position to help the team. In the no. 10 role we get him further up the pitch to create opportunities for himself and others to score, though he is not always the most creative game to game within play (but not all his fault as we are team that dont take our chances when we create them like last Sunday). His vision and weight of pass is better than most. In midfield we lose his forward play but we gain is he does cover some ground and can tackle / block when required.
He plays forward penetrating balls better than Schneiderling and Delph, and his weight of pass is better than Toms consistently (though Tom will improve no doubt). Against Chelsea at home and Burnley I thought hes tracking back and tackling was really good. For sure he doesnt have the legs to close down quickly in midfield but Gueye has gone and until Gbamin comes back we dont have that energetic combative midfielder anywhere in the team, closest is Tom or Delph.
Siggys dead ball delivery can be quality, we dont score enough from his deliveries more cos of poor execution from the players on the end of his deliveries ie Holgate last Sunday. He is better than most at shooting on goal and placing the ball away from the keeper (unlike all our shooters last Sunday). And maybe giving him the captains armband and that arm around the shoulder from Mr Man Management himself Carlo Ancelotti is what he needs to get going again. Tell him he is the most important player in the team, we need his skills and experience in a positive way. Hes not carrying the team but is integral part of it. And not slagging him off as a waste of space and waste of £45million quid.
15 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:17:33
16 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:23:01
17 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:54:25
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18 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:57:04
Bernard has been the pick. Finding and creating space in midfield, played in at least four very good passes in behind the Brighton defence. Tom doing very well also, doing what he does well. Showing for, collecting, turning and moving the ball on quickly.
Richarlison did superbly for his goal. Great awareness, technique and finishing in such a confined space.
Interesting that the camera picked up Ancelotti a couple of times signalling to Pickford to hit a long diagonal to DCL rather than play it short from the back.
Brighton has hardly laid a glove on us, but we've seen too often in recent years that Everton rarely plays well over a full 90 minutes. Time to do so.
19 Posted 11/01/2020 at 15:57:31
Clear penalty too in my eyes.
20 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:04:57
They're not having bad games.. they're just extremely limited footballers.
21 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:06:22
22 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:24:20
23 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:31:26
Sigurdsson played well in the middle against Chelsea and was instrumental in at least one of the goals, breaking up play and laying it off to the wing.
Hes always given 100% as far as Im concerned but I think the role is made impossible by Schneiderlin vacating the midfield to walk around in front of the defence.
24 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:54:37
It seems the crowd were as baffled with it as I was...merited discontent.
A win it is.. but that second half was worrying and baffling in equal measures.
25 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:56:31
I just hope Everton don't ruin a world class manager.
26 Posted 11/01/2020 at 16:59:25
I bet tranmere would take Walcott on loan if we offered to pay his wages, although bit unfair on them if they did.
27 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:02:06
By the way imho DCL is a championship player at best.
28 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:02:17
Ancelottis subs were poor. Sigurdsson poor and should have gone off.
Good first half though. Should have had a pen. Gonna have to have a think about this and shake the last 30 minutes from my mind as that might be distorting my view.
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29 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:04:35
VAR again not our friend today. Two clear penalties for me. Walcott after five minutes. The clear shoulder charge into the back of Holgate in the second half.
I can just about accept rubbing out DCL's goal being interpreted as handball, but to book him for deliberate handball having also denied him a goal was rank poor refereeing.
A more nervous final 10 minutes than was necessary to endure, but the good run in the league continues since Silva's dismissal.
P 7 W 4 D 2 L 1 F 9 A 5 Pts 14 from 21. Three clean sheets in those games also.
It eases the pressure and gives everyone some breathing space.
30 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:06:58
9 points from 12 under Carlo.
That, at this point is all that needs to be said.
Lets just remember for a moment, this team, expensively assembled, was on a collision course with the championship in many peoples minds.
31 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:08:10
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32 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:08:27
The manager and players deserve praise for how they've recovered from that humiliation. They've been on a good run since then, even before today.
Whoever gets relegated, I don't think the Saints will be amongst them.
33 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:08:39
34 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:09:06
That Alzate looks to be a real find for Brighton; he changed the game when he came on and was the best player on the park by some distance in my opinion.
35 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:12:13
36 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:12:17
37 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:13:58
38 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:14:21
Some really poor footballers in our squad. We desperately need a top striker (as do most teams), a good centre-back, and two midfielders: one attacking and one holding. Our options in midfield and up front are very limited.
I'm sure Ancelotti will have players in mind in the next 2 windows. I'm looking forward to clearing out the dross we have on our books. It won't be easy given the fortunes they are on.
They just deserved the win. But they made bloody hard work of it. Good job there are some shit teams in the Premier League or we would be in real trouble.
39 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:16:28
40 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:16:33
41 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:22:37
42 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:22:42
IMO the best player on the park was Bernard till he went off then Richy.
The worst player on the park was Sidibe.
In the first half we were so good down the flanks we kept their wingers and full backs in check and played some great stuff.
The second half when Digne took a knock and Sidibe seemed to be marking space they came into the game.
@2 blatant penalties so much for VAR although it was Michael Oliver.
It seems to be Carlito's way (Pardon the pun) to start off very attack minded then beef up defensively later in the game.
I believe we have the walking wounded at the moment so it will be good to have a week to recover before West Ham.
We are now level on points with Arsenal and only 2 points behind Spurs so lets give some credit here.
43 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:27:48
44 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:27:52
I stick by my opinion of Siggy as well.
45 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:28:52
Again a poor referee, are there any decent ones in what is supposed to be the best league in the World? Anyway can't grumble with another 3 points but the way other results have gone we stay in 11th.
46 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:29:44
However, we were the better side, created the most chances, good 3 points.
47 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:37:33
The performance firmly establishes Everton as a bottom-of-the-table team. Absolute rank.
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48 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:37:39
He is excellent going forward. I like his crisp angled passes into our forwards' feet and his crossing. But he has near zero awareness defensively of the play going on around him, or players running off him.
And that aspect of his game makes him quite a liability, IMO.
49 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:40:16
50 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:40:59
51 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:41:16
This was an important win, 5 more needed and quickly but this game just greatly highlighted the failings of this club in its quality of coaching and the player / manager purchasing. Let's put to bed Ancelotti's past, what he does from now on is the only thing that matters, he really needs to raise his game as he almost threw away that win today.
A wins, a win and very welcome.
52 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:41:41
We dominated the first half, and looked good doing it (Richarlison's goal was a thing of beauty). Less sharp in the second half (though still had chances), Brighton looked a lot more lively as the match wore on and Ancelotti went full-Italian hyper-defensive with his subs. But guess what? We still saw out the victory.
Bottom line - we've played seven league matches since Silva was dismissed and won four, drawn two and lost one (which was Man City away - typically one of the toughest fixtures in any given season). I know the FA Cup debacle is a cloud that hangs over everything and will for a while, but who honestly wouldn't take that sort of league form right now?
Jay (32) - credit to Saints for sticking by Hasenhuttl, who I think is a good manager. Figured they'd panic and sack him, bring in someone worse and basically seal their own fate.
53 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:43:17
54 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:44:16
Richarlison and DCL are forming a very decent partnership
Bernard, if he gets good support in the midfield can become our playmaker. Walcott and Siggy cannot be in our 1st choice MF, but can be decent substitutes. Davies, Bernard and 2 others (Gbamin & Gomes?) might constitute a decent midfield.
Keane and Holgate formed a good partnership, and looked solid until Digne and Sidibe started tiring.
Pickford was solid - another clean sheet will do his confidence a world of good.
Miraculously, with the teams above us drawing/losing, we have a real chance of clawing our way into the Top 6, which seemed laughable about 3 weeks ago.
You can't fault the effort put in by the players - as the commentators said, it was end-to-end stuff, pretty 'lung-bursting'.
Moyes was in the stands today, and he would have noted the weaknesses - especially our full-backs and centre midfield seem to be the weakest positions. Hopefully, Brands can strengthen us in a few positions.
55 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:44:44
56 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:45:54
Agreed. New manager, crap players, nothing much to play for. A win is a win as we are going through the motions until the summer.
57 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:46:41
58 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:46:46
59 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:47:06
60 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:47:14
The ginger one will be seething if we do, noticed he was on a spying mission in the crowd today. Mind you we will have to play a bit better than today.
61 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:47:23
Oh and all of this after 3 wins in the last four league games.
Because we are Barcelona
62 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:49:02
A win is a win anyway but much quality is needed next season.
63 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:49:28
64 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:50:32
Today: continued green shoots – let's notice them and keep some bloody perspective.
65 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:52:05
66 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:52:58
67 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:53:48
68 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:56:45
Another clean sheet but I thought we were cut open a few times.
At the other end need more goals from Walcott, Bernard and midfield.
Need to find a way of scoring a few more from corners too
69 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:57:14
Wash, rinse, repeat - bring on the purge
70 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:57:57
71 Posted 11/01/2020 at 17:59:34
The three points were very welcome, but with each substitution by Ancelotti Brighton lookedvthe team more likely to score and only a great save by Pickford and a poor effort from a Brighton player kept us ahead.
VAR again giving some terrible decisions and the inconsistency of them carries on. The three points will keep me happy, lets see if the January transfer window improves the squad, it is certainly very limited as it stands.
72 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:01:11
The defence and goalkeeper seem to have tightened things up a bit. There are signs of a partnership developing up front with Richarlison and DCL. But centre mid remains weak, and the wingers blow hot and cold. Top 8 finish at best in my opinion.
73 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:16:55
Bernard motm for me today even though he only played for an hour or so. Would like to see the little magician getting fully fit and giving us his magic for the full 90 mins.
74 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:17:02
75 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:18:03
76 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:22:52
77 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:28:20
Richi has a real go in defence as well as attack. The lad is no longer on the deck half the game, but often still rubbing sore bits!
Bernard was instrumental in many of our good moves and brings the best out of Digne, Davies and Richi.
I thought the subs were weird, but they worked. Digne was injured, the right wing was open season, and we needed a big lad to compete with their two massive lumps.
One guy who I would try to buy is Dunk. He is a collossus and his pace to block (Richi ?)when coming from their left across the area was surprising for a big chap.
78 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:29:47
Sidibe can play both left and right back. Obviously, he can also play right midfield. With a relatively cheap purchase clause, I think we should definitely exercise the option to buy. Coleman is on his way out, and Kenny could be viewed as first choice right back with Sidibe as the cover for Digne and an option at right mid. Unless of course the world class manager from the country most renowned for defensive ability can turn him into a better defender. I really want Jonjoe Kenny back in Everton blue though.
79 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:31:04
Rich finish was a joy to watch.
Walcot. same as last week, great first half...
Dcl always busts a gut, always on the edge of greatness...
Holgate, worked his talent in various positions..
Pick ford did enough when asked..
Then there are players that leave you wondering...
Gylfi...great dead balls but otherwise just balls...
Sidibe...where do you play him..
Dinge, great with bernie, but average without..
Carlo, your subs left me guessing, but you have the biggest job of your life on your hands now, and I can only hope you are up for it...
80 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:35:44
81 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:40:07
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82 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:40:36
Interesting, Steve.
Sidibe does represent good market value in spite of his obvious defensive frailties.
You know I'm with you 100% on Jonjoe Kenny. I want to see him back at Everton next season cementing himself into the team at right back.
83 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:44:37
Not exactly all round central midfield performance but he's not exactly a central midfielder.
That was a game that for 70 minutes I thought we bossed and were also creative enough. A couple of VAR calls and a touch more cutting edge and it's a big win.
I also thought Carlo went a bit defensive a bit early but he got the win so maybe he was right.
Sidibe and Coleman really struggled with their positioning. Became a big problem for us. Actually thought Sidibe had a poor game. Lots of baffling decisions with the ball.
84 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:44:46
85 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:50:42
86 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:53:01
87 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:54:15
88 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:56:03
But we've a number if players with that problem
89 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:59:04
90 Posted 11/01/2020 at 18:59:28
Id take a 1-0, won every game, but theres along ha d road ahead. Road our luck, stage usual VAR, and some players lucky to be on the pitch.
Honest players, and perhaps they should go down more, but enough been said this week.
But we start next week with more hope than we we began this week.
Id love to know from todays line up, whose still genuinely in the squad come next preseason, or is sold.
The beers tastes better tonight. Good weekend All.
91 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:00:05
Bernard showed that he has the vision for the pass and played very well until he tired, an definite starter every game for me.
92 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:03:33
Crowd felt like when you meet family youve had murder with, but you keep shtum just to keep the peace. Going to take time for us to forgive them for last week, and they will need to earn our trust back in time.
Disappointing to see Theo and Siggy on the team sheet, and even more disappointing to see Schniederlin and two full backs on the bench with no youth. Subs were bizarre too. if that had been Silva we would all have been questioning loudly.
However its not Silva. Its a serial winner. Who the fuck am I to question him? He sees stuff in training that none of us do its time to just have some faith, and In Carlo I Trust. He clearly has a system and a style, its getting results even though it will take time to get the players used to it, and others in to help it too.
So, all in all its glass half full for me. Work to do, but heading the right way. COYB!
93 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:12:56
94 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:13:59
We are Everton.
95 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:16:49
96 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:18:48
I was disappointed in Calvert Lewin in first half in that Brighton where able to defend near post crosses unchallenged. Calvert Lewin as Centre Forward should have been challenging at the near post. Richarlison did likewise at the back post. Ancelotti has got Everton to attack through the centre, the benefits are obvious.
I agree that Sidebe needs cover, but think his strength is spotting the opportunity to release a early ball, something that Roadrunner Walcott rarely does. Digne appears below par fitness wise. Keane should have had a goal, but doped it. Ancelotti was not impressed with his pass in the first half balloning into the stands.
The Brighton pressure of the second half was as expected. The opposition pushing into midfield make Siggs anomoyous and causes Everton to play deeper. The Prancing Clown Klopp learn't this tactic from the lower half of the table, against Everton.
Glad of the win though, but Everton need major changes.
97 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:23:17
However, once the effort level dipped (probably due to the extra efforts of the first half) the grumbling started and by the end the crowd were starting to get on players backs. Rightly so, as there was a gluttony of errors.
The substitutions did not help, and if anything, made things worse. When Delph came on for Bernard, everyone rose to give him a standing ovation. Then immediately sat down and Delph ran on to a chorus of boos. He made a point of clapping the Street end at the end of the game, but I'm unsure how they reacted as the music was now on.
One curious thing was half time. No not speedo Mick's cross bar challenge. Kean was out with Francesco Mauri and what looked like Davide Ancelotti. They spent at least 10 minutes intensively warming him up. He was really going for it and I fully expected him to be on at the restart, presumably for Richarlison who had been down for a while. But when the players came out, Kean went to the warm-up section in front of the main stand, towards the street end. He then stayed there for most of the second half, stretching and jogging around. I can only assume that there was concern for Richarlison and that he recovered sufficiently to stay on and then surprisingly Kean never came on at all.
98 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:28:13
99 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:28:46
We, again, should have killed the game off when on top and, again, couldn't keep two halves up to speed.
Brighton were crap and we made them look good second half.
My distaste of VAR hasn't changed one iota and is ruining the sport.
The VAR decision on Walcott was a disgrace but an even bigger one was that the ref who had a clear view didn't give it. Unbelievable.
Main thing today was 3 points
100 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:31:52
In the next six weeks before Arsenal away, we have just four games.
Time for some rest. Time to clear heads. Possibly even a couple of signings. And time for Carlo to get his head round things.
101 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:32:15
102 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:33:56
Jesus. We're in bigger trouble than I thought.
103 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:34:38
104 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:34:42
Ultimately, he isn't quiet good enough is he. Is he going to learn to defend at any stage, for all his quality going forward?
I'd rather keep looking. Maybe not even look further than Schalke.
105 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:37:06
Not one youngster on the bench and three defensive substitutions at home to the mighty Brighton!!!!!
Next week we have the struggling hammers who with Noble in midfield will totally dominate.
Bollocking players for playing shit will not change a thing, give someone else such as the kids a chance, others do and it works.
The young 20 year old Tanganga who made his debut against the shoite was actually my man of the match!!!!
106 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:42:08
107 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:48:40
Have we had a VAR awarded penalty in our favour yet this season that I've forgotten about? Off the top of my head, that's Brighton away, Spurs home, Liverpool away and Brighton home where we've either been denied utterly blatant penalties or had absurd ones given against us by the buffoons in Stockley Park.
But then, did we as Evertonians seriously expect anything else?!
108 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:50:58
109 Posted 11/01/2020 at 19:54:01
An aside, no one mentioning Tom Davies' moustache? He's singlehandedly bringing the 70s back to Liverpool! The lad just does not give a (insert expletive here), and you gotta admire him for that. I also thought he had a very good first half, but struggled in the second as Sigurdsson became invisible and the others stopped making runs and gave him no passing options.
Statistics courtesy of @EFC_Statto on twitter:
Touches: 57 TD
Successful passes: 33 TD
successful attacking third passes: 9 TD
chances created: 1 TD
passing accuracy: 80%
recoveries: 5 TD
successful tackles: 4
aerial duels won: 2
interceptions: 1
And how about this for Dominic "Championship player at best" Calver-Lewin: only 3 players scored more goals for Everton in the entire of the 2010s!
110 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:00:17
Did I say we won?
111 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:03:04
112 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:13:49
Also thought Keane was very solid defensively.
Digne still playing rubbish - wouldn't surprise me if he's playing with an injury.
All-in-all, please with a win. Baby steps...
113 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:15:57
Of course, if this run of good form continues it may well be able to withstand the occasional horror show to see us claim a top eight spot. At least.
114 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:18:04
115 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:21:06
116 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:26:38
117 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:28:19
118 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:47:09
from an attacking point of view, I think CA would have been pleased with the movement in the first half. Defensively we looked a little steadier. keane surprised me. he looked like a defender today. Holgate continues to mature and for me, he probably edged MotM.
I liked the work of Davies, Bernard, DCL Richarlison and even Walcott during that first hour, but the same old problem surfaced as the game went on. The wonderful movement we saw in the first half disappeared and as a consequence passing fell off a cliff.
Why oh Why cant these players pass and move for the entire ninety ? Do they run out of steam ? confidence ? Nerve ?
Ancelotti will not have enjoyed hanging on for a win which should have been secured by HT. However, by now, he will know that if he can succeed where previous managers have failed and get this crew to play consistently well over the ninety, Our season may not yet be as over as we thought it was.
119 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:54:05
As regular supporters we were all aware of the huge job that Ancelloti has, as we new what the squad was like. The new manager has had less than a month to get to know the players mostly with previous looks at videos, the few games he has been in charge of and the training ground..
I think it is too soon to start criticizing him regardless of who he plays or subs during a game as some players may look good in training but are poor in games. He may only now know how fit, or the lack of fitness some players have during a game, and sometimes wishes he had a better squad to work with but he hasn't. Every time we have got a new manager we have said, give him time and be patient and it hasn't worked out, this time i believe it will
120 Posted 11/01/2020 at 20:57:50
121 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:01:25
122 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:03:56
Richarlison and Bernard were really good today. Lets hope the corner has been turned.
123 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:06:43
124 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:13:42
Could we see a little charge now and another at the end of the season?
125 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:14:56
Contrary to some views on here the more I see of Calvert-Lewin the more impressed I am of him as a footballer. Delph continues to be a disappointment. As for Walcott and Sigurdsson...
126 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:15:11
As ever, I think it was more mental than physical fatigue that caused the last 20 mins drop-off.
Before Silva was rightly sacked, I'd have bitten your arm off for this run. It's all about grinding out wins against the teams around us and strengthening the team so we become more competitive against the 'bigger teams
I've moved on from Sunday. Maybe it's easier from up here. I'd rather focus on the games we can influence. The longer the players go on the pitch knowing they're hard to beat (City & Lpool aside), the quicker they'll express themselves and play better stuff.
3 wins out of 4, but he's the 'Italian Walter Smith'. So far, so pretty good for me.
127 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:15:55
The team do look knackered, jaded, fatigued already, why who knows, injuries, knocks, illness ect ect
You would have thought it would be the perfect time now to introduce the likes of Gordon for example but even Moise Kean, a £27 million pound player cant get enough game time.
Its disappointing that we arent producing quality from within to freshen things up.
128 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:17:07
Bernard my MotM by some distance.
I didn't like the defensive subs but it worked; after all, a win is a win.
Be good to bring in a couple of players next week. We are carrying too many passengers... Richarlison's back must be killing him.
129 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:18:15
I thought Keane did well once he settled down, because you could see how nervous he was, especially considering he wasnt even on the pitch last week, but everything went through Bernard imo, and Richarlison also looked a lot more refreshed, and although I like DCL, I didnt enjoy him that much today.
Maybe Im wrong, he was up by himself against two big defenders, but sometimes I wanted him to do the things that he his better at, rather than letting those big two dictate a lot of his performance. I disagreed with Jerome saying he should of attacked the front post more, simply because he was upfront by himself, and most of our crosses never got past the first grock.
When he scored against Burnley, Kean being central allowed Dominic to attack the front post, but this is so much harder to do when you dont have a partner, because its much easier for them to squeeze the space, but when DCL, had a chance to run them a few times today, he usually elected to play it off, unless the ball had been played over the top?
He wasnt our best player today, but he epitomises what I want to see out of every Everton player, for sheer hard work and effort, and refusing to ever go missing. I enjoyed Tom Davies today, except when he got very lucky, losing the ball just outside our box, and luckily getting a foul, because the kid has got loads of desire.
130 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:44:15
Silva simply didnt get this. Win some horrible ugly games, its a platform for your style. If he understood that hed still be here for sure.
A quick fire 4 or 6 points from two pretty poor sides in west ham and Newcastle will see us in a very encouraging position.
Its clear without any sort of midfield combination, Carlo is looking for a more direct approach and trying to use our best ball carrier, Bernard as the way to create. Simple observations but he has distilled this in only weeks and attempted to work around it.
Our midfield might as well be water carriers because theres nothing there due to injury, hes recognized that we either go over them or use them a transfer pivots.
Walcott is starting to get an influence due to a more direct style and hes running from out to in, he strongest suit.
A midfield loan or two is the deals we should be after.
131 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:44:31
132 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:50:14
He isn't paid to listen to us or to ingratiate himself with us, he's paid to win things for us. Last week runs very, very, very deep but I am glad now that this manager hasn't soft-soaped the fans. He just proceeds.
Bernard was lovely to watch, Richarlison great, and Holgate very good.
If we can expel last week's poison - which is going to be very hard to do, at least it will be for some of us - and have a quiet look at the table then, as others have noted, all is not lost.
Damn them.
133 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:54:09
Bernard was far and away the best and most creative player. He is exactly what we need to control the game and make unexpected passes. Considering his size he also gets stuck in as good as any player. I hope he was substituted because he had run himself into the ground and not for tactical reasons.
I really do not like to slag players on TW. However Sidibe didn't hesitate to be critical of the city of Liverpool so I don't feel too bad adding my own few words about his play.I think he was awful today and he has never impressed me since he came here. I don't care how old Coleman and Baines are they are far better options than him. We have made some lousy buys and I sincerely hope we do NOT take the option to buy him. I would be quite happy to see his loan reversed as soon as possible. As an old long time supporter he makes me more nervous than any other fullback I can remember.
134 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:54:56
135 Posted 11/01/2020 at 21:58:42
Leading 1-0 is always a nervous time with Everton and the Seagulls often looked dangerous against Everton's problematic defending.
It's looking more likely that Gomes and Gbamin won't figure much in the rest of the season so we need another solid midfielder given the inconsistency of those we have.
136 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:01:17
137 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:13:43
138 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:15:46
‘Keane should have had a goal, but doped it.
Was that the one that the defender touched to take it off Keanes boot? I think you need to reassess that one because Keane had no chance of reacting and scoring.
Im really confused to see Digne getting so much stick. Hes not at his absolute best but he was totally fine today. He got an assist and created some good chances. Of all the players to find fault in, I think hes one of the last who should be called out.
Sidebe is an interesting one. I would definitely question Steve Ferns assertion that he ‘can play left back. The blokes left foot is abysmal. He has his assets though. He can certainly swing in a cross with his right foot and at times he looks menacing going forward. Unfortunately his performance today was soured by the last 15 minutes. After Coleman cafe on he seemed to think his job was done. I suppose he will blame fatigue but I saw a player who I thought wasnt giving his all.
Bernard and Richarlison both class. Ive got to praise the latter for his change in attitude. Hes stopped his diving and has pulled himself together. A lovely goal from him today too.
Lastly, a word on VAR. that Walcott decision was a disgrace, as was the shove in Holgates back. There is just no debate whatsoever. Both were stonewall penalties. Its really quite sickening that we have been cheated like that. To think about the decision given against Michael Keane (earlier in the season) for standing on someones foot while both players looked up at the ball. How can two DELIBERATE fouls not be given today and yet a clearly unintentional coming together is punished. I really hope Ancelotti publicly calls this one out. We are quite clearly being unfairly treated.
139 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:17:25
140 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:21:29
141 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:22:51
142 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:26:48
I get nervous though when I see comments like we should beat our upcoming opponents.
Yes we are on a roll as far as League results are concerned but our next fixtures are just the sort where we usually go pear shaped.
They are not the hardest games on paper, but lets face it we are pretty average ourselves.
143 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:36:39
144 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:49:01
I seen the ball come off Keanes shoulder, had not seen the defender got a touch, which you seen. I did see the replay as well and did not see the defenders touch. Will watch again on MOTD , if I don't fall to sleep waiting.
145 Posted 11/01/2020 at 22:59:21
What makes you think we have the mental strength to win must win games?
As soon as it gets serious we get scared and run away like little children
146 Posted 11/01/2020 at 23:32:21
Not shown on MOTD.
Bernard excellent.
147 Posted 11/01/2020 at 23:33:43
Not bothered about the performance as this season is now damage limitation and getting some stability back. If Ancelotti can get us top 7 and EL after the shit Silva got us into, that would be a great achievement. Anything extra would be amazing.
Win gets the players a bit more confidence and confident players play better. Hopefully a few of the injuries will clear up now we have a week to rest.
148 Posted 11/01/2020 at 23:35:36
149 Posted 11/01/2020 at 23:53:41
150 Posted 11/01/2020 at 23:53:46
At the start of the season, Silva established the following pecking order --
1. Coleman
2. Baines
3. Sigurdsson
4. Digne
So Coleman's the Captain, but the armband goes to the next highest ranking player when he doesn't start. Since Baines rarely plays, that's Sigurdsson.
Ancelotti clearly hasn't felt compelled to change the system... and frankly I'm not even sure who his alternatives would be at this moment.
151 Posted 11/01/2020 at 00:13:59
The refereeing and VAR were both sh*t. Michael Oliver at VAR should be sacked for the decision when Walcott was pulled back. Clear as daylight and couldn't be missed by a blind bat. Nailed on penalty and send off the defender!
We did enough to win but some of the players can't last 90 minutes. Sigs was just about on his knees after 60 minutes. I thought he'd played well in the first half but he was making too many mistakes in the second. Some strange passing decisions (short) when there were better (and simpler) options led to pressure on us from quick breaks, too!
In addition to the penalty that should have also been given for the barge in Holgate's back, there was another penalty perhaps when one of their players on the deck used the middle-to-top of his arm to stop the ball.
For several years now we might have lost this game from 1 - 0 up or drawn at best. 1 - 0 win, so 3 points. I'll take that.
152 Posted 12/01/2020 at 00:36:11
We looked highly likely to find a second goal before Ancellotti's puzzling defensive minded reshuffle. Some may say his substitutions worked, as we won the game. But Brighton we unlucky not to equalise on a couple occasions after our changes were made. Had that happened it would have put Ancellotti's tactics under much more scrutiny.
It is glaringly obvious that we are desperately weak and lacking creativity in midfield. For long periods Sigurrdson was once more chasing shadows. Davies battled to the best of his ability, but reactions were sluggish. The only time we came to life was in flashes from Bernard, Richarlison and in the first half, Walcott.
The slow build up from the back and tedious sideways and backward passing from our back four was reminiscent of the Martinez era. We do not have the players to employ these tactics successfully. All it served to do was to constantly give Brighton time to regroup and keep their shape, which for long periods they did with great efficiency. Our injured midfielders cannot come back a day too soon. If not new signings, then surely loan deals are imperative right now Carlo?
153 Posted 12/01/2020 at 02:07:00
I thought that we looked well balanced and organised in the first half with Bernard the best and Sibide the weakest but nobody playing poorly. We may be able to wait until the summer to bring in new blood if Carlo can get them the play like that for 90 minutes.
I watched the early kick off game and when Tosun came on the commentator commented that it is rare for a club to loan a player to team that is above them in the table. Hopefully that won't last long.
154 Posted 12/01/2020 at 02:08:42
155 Posted 12/01/2020 at 02:37:22
156 Posted 12/01/2020 at 02:52:24
SIMON(139). Sidibe said that he thought Liverpool was a "sad" city. Even if he was right it is a stupid, naive statement to make for a new player. Unfortunately, I really don't rate him as a right back, and had to find something to help support my criticism of him as a player. Not really logical but I have been supporting Everton for ever so I am not too likely to be logical in stressful times.
157 Posted 12/01/2020 at 04:00:54
Len #143, Sidibe is our leading tackler despite having played only a little over half our games. He also leads us in assists. Yes, he has some positional challenges defensively, but I think your comparing him to Cuco is bizarre. You should listen to your son.
158 Posted 12/01/2020 at 04:58:17
Why the rush to push Baines out? Pearcey played till 40. Frankly Im surprised Baines hasnt been used more given Dignes form.
159 Posted 12/01/2020 at 04:58:56
And how and where did he say it, a letter to the papers, in answer to a question of comparing Liverpool to Monaco or just the first impressions in a private conversation of somebody who isn't allowed out on the booze and has had more to do checking in to his company assigned hotel/apartment?
160 Posted 12/01/2020 at 05:00:58
Hes just class. Weve got one hell of a manager. Im not sure how we actually convinced the guy to come to us, but Im very happy he did.
While praising Rich and DCL, he made sure to mention Moise Kean as a superb striker, but one well need to “wait on” [be patient] with.
This project will take some time, but I dont think weve ever been in more capable hands.
161 Posted 12/01/2020 at 05:03:23
One thing I dont get is, VAR is supposed to correct “clear and obvious” errors. Ergo, shouldnt that mean any time they intervene they reverse the decision as its “clear and obvious”?
How in the fuck was DCLs “Handball” clear and obvious yet Dunks foul was not? Especially given the controversy surrounding Keanes “foul” away to Brighton youd have thought theyd be careful about showing bias. Luckily it didnt matter in the end but I assume Michael Oliver picked up his supplemental paycheck from Emperor Palpetine nonetheless.
162 Posted 12/01/2020 at 05:08:03
From what I read, Sidibes comment was “lost in translation.” I read he used a French word that better translates as depressed as in economically but it was picked up by the UK press as in depressed meaning sad.
163 Posted 12/01/2020 at 05:12:34
The Premier League have taken a wholly good thing in video replay, and completed screwed it up. It is absolutely making the game worse, when it absolutely should make it better.
Ive no problem with them disallowing the DCL goal. How in the holy hell the tug on Theo isnt a PK you, me, and Jesus Christ himself will never know.
The Premier League needs to seriously review its VAR protocol, and they must strictly define its use next season. Its presently this nebulous interference which messes up the game. And, something no one is really talking about too much, it could easily be used as a tool of corruption in its present form.
Im a big, big fan of VAR. In its current iteration / form, its an abomination.
164 Posted 12/01/2020 at 07:05:07
165 Posted 12/01/2020 at 07:08:40
Do they think this is the Wedding at Cana ?
Take deep breaths and calm down.
He can only work with the tools at his disposal.
Winning games is his priority not flash football.
166 Posted 12/01/2020 at 07:08:40
Do they think this is the Wedding at Cana ?
Take deep breaths and calm down.
He can only work with the tools at his disposal.
Winning games is his priority not flash football.
167 Posted 12/01/2020 at 07:25:07
Obviously he is young, still learning the game and still has some lapses, but I think he shows desire, passion and commitment and demands this from his more experienced peers.
168 Posted 12/01/2020 at 08:37:23
Also DCL's goal was extremely hard to call as deliberate hand ball, it looked like the shoulder and was chalked off and card issued within about 15 seconds.
2 blatent pull backs on the last man by the same brighton player were quickly discarded. I have wanted Var in for years but for EFC in particular it seems to be working againstus on a weekly basis.
169 Posted 12/01/2020 at 08:50:53
170 Posted 12/01/2020 at 08:57:49
There isn't any pressure on us with being out of both cup competitions and only progression in the league to play for.
171 Posted 12/01/2020 at 09:13:33
172 Posted 12/01/2020 at 09:45:31
We should have had at least 2 penalties. What do VAR not see, how can they not give blatent penalties that the referee has missed. Isn't that part of the job?
DCL should have had at least a goal. Harshly yellow carded for what was impossible to clearly see if it was arm or shoulder.
But when running through those are the chances a top striker finishes. At least he hit the target, an improvement from a few similar chances he blazed high and wide last season.
Holgate was outstanding. Davies also very good closing down all over the pitch. Richarlison took his goal well. Yes all 3 made the odd mistake which they need to stop.
Bernard very good in patches but still wasteful and goes backwards too often.
Our general passing was OK. Crossing poor. 3 decent crosses from a dozen or more attempts. What's happened to Digne?
It was against a decent Brighton side but tougher challenges ahead.
173 Posted 12/01/2020 at 10:14:09
DC-L has the same and gets his goal chalked off and yellow carded. Was this clear and obvious ???....no . So why overturn it?
Spot the difference?
VAR ref needs to explain clearly why a pen wasnt given for Walcott being dragged back and losing his momentum and balance before trying to shoot.
We need that transparency of the logic behind the VAR refs decision.
174 Posted 12/01/2020 at 10:23:05
I think he remains a very good option for us. He's also an intelligent man who is probably a good all-round influence. Of course, he may want to move on for his own reasons but I hope not.
175 Posted 12/01/2020 at 10:51:36
While I would love it to be true, my distrust of Media Gossip, especially during a Transfer Window, is 90% brown stuff and 10% speculation. Just hoping that either of you may have heard something more concrete.
Must admit we have been very quiet in the Transfer Gossip as a whole, but I prefer it that way, with a couple of quality additions wheeled out 'through the back door'.
176 Posted 12/01/2020 at 10:52:20
He is still plenty good enough and I think he has been underused over the last year. This has contributed to Digne's loss of form either through fatigue for the Frenchman or the fact that he feels he is undropable.
Hopefully Carlo will use him more for the remainder of the season, give him 4 or 5 games while resting Digne and if Baines continues his recent form I would hope we give him a contract for another season.
177 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:06:26
Baines has looked good, but he can't play a sustained amount of games.
People who think International players aren't really trying hard in a year when there is an International tournament coming up, are probably quite wrong about where their heads are regarding motivation. There are many other factors, fitness being the main one.
Just look at our right back, Sidibe as a case in point. He's clearly motivated and has been recalled to the France squad based on his performances for Everton this season.
178 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:07:33
179 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:16:24
You can't have it both ways, Len. With respect.
180 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:23:24
This versatility, and the relatively low purchase option in his contract, make me believe that he should be retained. I think that you can keep sidibe, bring back Kenny and keep Coleman for this reason.
Sorry Kieran #158, I wouldnt offer Baines a new contract, not unless he takes a substantial pay cut, and Pearce might have played until he was 40 but I wouldnt have retained him either, and it was a different game, in terms of the distances ran, back then. I think that whilst Baines has shown he still has a decent left peg, he cant get up and down the left like wed need him to, and hed fade further in 12 months time after turning 36.
181 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:40:35
182 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:46:28
The one thing Im confident about with Sidebe is that he can cross the ball with his right foot. Its literally his greatest asset.
Im at a bit of a loss as to how youve come up with that one.
183 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:50:17
Some of the decisions they make are unbelievable.
When is a foul a foul, there no ifs and buts about it, if its a foul and the player doesn't end up on the ground its still a free kick or a penalty.
184 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:52:38
185 Posted 12/01/2020 at 11:53:17
I don't know where you sit in the ground but I sit in the Upper Bullens and especially in the 2nd half the times Sidibe could have crossed with his right foot and didnt. This caused the fans to get really annoyed with him for constantly stopping to move the ball back onto his left foot, which slowed everything down.
186 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:09:16
I posted a week ago the stats on his crossing and it showed that whilst Digne has better volume, Sidibe has better quality.
187 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:15:30
How many times do referees go to the screen at the side of the pitch, to verify the Camera Angles where he has probably been up to 40 yards away from the original incident? No he relies on his 'mates' who are all pissing in the same pot, and up to 200plus miles away who look after each other, and goes with that.
Certain sides also seem to have different interpretations applied exclusively to them, it should and MUST be the same for everyone!
188 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:46:50
189 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:53:00
Withdrawing Bernard surprised me - he was our best player up to that point IMO - but it was probably the sensible move in order to shore up to get the points. While he was on the pitch He seemed to be drifting into a left sided number 10 role, with Siggi in a deeper number 8 role, or was I imagining that? Whatever, it seemed to work for both players,
Strangely, after such a disappointing season, there's a chance we could finish top six if we get a bit of luck.
190 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:53:16
He proved yesterday that his left leg is for standing on only. Could tell by his body shape when he went to cross with his left that it's not his natural foot whereas his right footed crosses are generally excellent and completely natural to him.
With regard to a top six/eight finish. Personally I'd rather NOT see us qualify for Europe this season and allow Ancelotti the summer to recruit the players we need and have a "normal" preseason and start next season with a bang! I think if we qualifies for the Europa league it'd do more harm than good, just my opinion.
191 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:54:37
1. Same handball rules apply to attackers as defenders - with one exception namely that you should never be allowed to actually score with your hand
2. If any part of the body is on-side, that's ok
3. You have a maximum of one minute to confirm / change a decision. Anything taking longer than that is not clear and obvious
4. The referee makes the decision by consulting the screen
How that decision was not given in favour of Walcott yesterday smacks of corruption - and I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist. Decisions like those are supposed to balance out over a season. Well we must be due a few favourable decisions between now and May then!
Besides, our account against Brighton cannot be levelled out now. They have had 3 decisions against us go in their favour this season. If things do "even themselves out", it'll be at another team's expense. Such decisions can make the difference between survival and relegation.
192 Posted 12/01/2020 at 12:59:32
193 Posted 12/01/2020 at 13:01:31
The problem with penalties or not penalties these days is that the rules seem to have annoyingly naturally changed without there being an official change.
How many times have you heard a pundit say "Don't think there was enough there for a penalty, yes he impeded him but it'd have been a soft one for me."
Even my neighbour at the game yesterday said "Yeh he tugged Walcott back but not a lot in it really."
There seems to have grown a belief that you have to be hit hard or impeded greatly for it to be a penalty. There is NO scale as far as I know.
It's either a penalty or it isn't!
Yesterday's was a clear cut penalty. The fact that Walcott carried on and took a shot made it easy for them to not give it!
194 Posted 12/01/2020 at 13:04:46
195 Posted 12/01/2020 at 13:16:42
We can see Gylfi"s arse has completely gone, playing in the most important position on the field. Aaron Mooy would be my first choice then Jonjoe Shelvey.
196 Posted 12/01/2020 at 13:47:18
197 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:02:34
You beat me to it, and you're 100% spot on. Those four criteria for VAR are exactly what are needed.
Same handball rules apply to attackers as defenders - with one exception namely that you should never be allowed to actually score with your hand
1. Stops the worst rule change in soccer history, and actually has nothing to do with VAR but will assist it's implementation massively.
If any part of the body is on-side, that's ok
2. Yes, yes, and yes. There's too many "by a whisker" offside situations actually calling goals back. It's insane and shouldn't happen.
You have a maximum of one minute to confirm / change a decision. Anything taking longer than that is not clear and obvious
3. Stops the ridiculous delays.
The referee makes the decision by consulting the screen
4. The referee has always been the final arbiter in football since I can remember. This shouldn't change. He needs to be able to review himself, and make the final call on the field.
I'd add a fifth point:
5. All video reviews can be shown on the big screens at all games. This has to be done in England. It's absolutely ridiculous that the fans sit there, completely in the dark, wondering what the hell is going on. I'll never forget when I found out, on TW, that VAR replays weren't shown in England. I about fell out of my chair. If some inbred idiots get raucous over it, throw them the hell out. That's what security is for.
There ya go! VAR sorted. Only on TW could this occur in 10 or so posts. 😉
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198 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:06:03
But yesterday - I think it was the Ancelotti transfer comments thread - I posted that this rumour was again doing the rounds in Brazil.
It's in Portuguese, but basically says Everton intends to put in a 30 million euro bid for him. It goes as far as to say that Ancelotti himself has called and spoken directly to the player.
Something I didn't know is that he separated from his then agent in August when an expected transfer to Arsenal fell through. Borussia Dortmund is another club mentioned as sniffing around for him.
The article mentions he scored 20 goals in 57 games last season. Indeed, he was mid-table Gremio's top scorer. Not bad for a (nominally) wide man.
You know my feelings about him, Derek. Quick, tricky, technically adept, both unselfish and knows how to finish. Bums would not be stuck on seats with him in the team.
It makes sense based on Carlo's latest presser also. He talked about not being tied to one system but adapting to the players he has. He specifically mentioned as an example that in DCL and Richarlison we have two good headers of the ball in attack.
Carlo went on to say, a good tactic then would be to get more crosses into the box. Methinks Cebolinha more than delivers that in every sense.
As for Fran Mitchell, he is back in the UK permanently. Working around Milton Keynes, I think he mentioned.
199 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:12:29
Brian #193, yes I agree. There are degrees of contact but that was so blindingly obvious yesterday. The pull threw Walcott off balance which affected his shot / ability to try and round the keeper. As they said on MoTD last night, Walcott was too honest and should have gone down. What a perfect opportunity to encourage players to be honest instead of going to ground. Imagine if Salah / Mané had been in that position.
200 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:17:27
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201 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:17:58
Sidibe, as you also mentioned Brian, concerns me on his defensive capabilities, his poor positioning and lack of awareness of the play and players around him.
But - at least in the final third of the pitch - he has a wand of a right foot. He has shown time and time again in a Blue shirt just how good.
As others mentioned, he was forced by Brighton to check and switch to his left foot a number of times yesterday. Why? Because they had done their homework: don't give Sidibe the space or time on his right foot to deliver into our box, or he will hurt us.
You've called this one wrong, Brian.
202 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:23:57
Didn't realise Fran was back in England, so thanks for the 'head's up' on that too. We will have to get at least of couple of players in especially in Central Defence and midfield, whether Everton Soares is seen as a possibility we can only hope.
203 Posted 12/01/2020 at 14:47:23
204 Posted 12/01/2020 at 15:50:36
You dont get many clearer penalties than the Walcott incident, and as there was obviously no intent by the defender to get the ball, its also a sending off.
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205 Posted 12/01/2020 at 16:19:47
'A lot of posters seem to forget that right back is a defensive position. Sidibe at present cant defend so his other perceived attributes are pretty pointless.'
Read any post in this thread which mentions Sidibe. Pretty much every single one of them expresses concerns at Sidibe's poor defensive play and consider him a liability on that front, so nobody 'forgets' or overlooks that.
Nor has he played exclusively at right back. It's a matter of balance. Do we play him in front of the true right back as has been the case in recent games knowing his defensive deficiencies, but that is offset by what he does offer in the attacking sense.
That's why we have a manager making such selection and tactical calls.
206 Posted 12/01/2020 at 16:24:10
207 Posted 12/01/2020 at 17:53:50
This seems a bit excessive, I'm not saying this is the cause of these shocking decisions
BUT it could be, when a panel of individuals can watch that Walcott incident and decide that 1) it wasn't a foul and 2) it didn't affect his attempt at goal , the mind boggles.
A similar panel decided that a defender looking up at a ball in the sky and stood accidentally on a strikers foot deserved a penalty awarding against him.
Evertonians often feel paranoid about decisions against us but on days like this Saturday it is well justified.
208 Posted 12/01/2020 at 17:58:56
Just imagine if the Premier League were based in Italy or Brazil? Two countries, with apologies to Jay Wood, that have a history of corruption of near epidemic proportions.
Give the VAR ref in the booth ten grand and watch how fishy the calls become!
I'm not, as you are not, saying this has occurred. But it certainly creates a more ripe field in which to sow evil oats!
And that's the reason for strictly defining VAR's role.
209 Posted 12/01/2020 at 18:06:48
Why cant we have the ref, making these decisions, instead of a man watching on the telly, miles away from the actual pitch? Do they even use one studio to save on the costs, in the richest football league in the world?
210 Posted 12/01/2020 at 18:32:24
This is definite, VAR has to change, when it can throw up some of the shockers we have seen this season it is clearly failing.
I think it is/ has fundamentally changed the game for the worst significantly.
As Jamie says, if these decisions were being made in Argentina let's say we would be sniggering at the dubious logic being applied.
Why can't the referee look at the screen for fucks sake ? He should always have the final say, he should just have so with all the help of the VAR team and of course the assistants who are becoming virtually redundant also.
211 Posted 12/01/2020 at 19:43:48
212 Posted 12/01/2020 at 19:43:48
213 Posted 12/01/2020 at 19:53:25
Sigurdssons took a no risks approach, but is a long way off the £45 million player needs in his position, when pressed he disappears. Sidebe is still a improvement on Walcott who still falters to decieve. Everton under Ancelotti do offer a central attacking threat, but positional basic attacking play is still weak.
The amount of times that Brighton defenders where able to clear their lines unchallenged, even having time to look round, with Everton attackers yards away will not go unnoticed by Ancelotti. Holgate is a miles better player than Mina and Keane, but even be found it difficult to get a tellingly forward, having to relie on midfielders to come short, rather than player movement creating space.
Everton weakness under pressure in the final quarter was exposed, when the opposition pushed forward, nearly with success, as the lower half of the table has done since the start of the season. A tactic the prancing clown copied at Anfield.
214 Posted 12/01/2020 at 19:53:25
Sigurdssons took a no risks approach, but is a long way off the £45 million player needs in his position, when pressed he disappears. Sidebe is still a improvement on Walcott who still falters to decieve. Everton under Ancelotti do offer a central attacking threat, but positional basic attacking play is still weak.
The amount of times that Brighton defenders where able to clear their lines unchallenged, even having time to look round, with Everton attackers yards away will not go unnoticed by Ancelotti. Holgate is a miles better player than Mina and Keane, but even be found it difficult to get a tellingly forward, having to relie on midfielders to come short, rather than player movement creating space.
Everton weakness under pressure in the final quarter was exposed, when the opposition pushed forward, nearly with success, as the lower half of the table has done since the start of the season. A tactic the prancing clown copied at Anfield.
215 Posted 12/01/2020 at 20:28:28
It's yet another major issue confronting Brands and CA as they attempt to sign players of the quality we need.
216 Posted 12/01/2020 at 21:11:18
217 Posted 12/01/2020 at 21:26:08
I agree with you that Manchester is a bigger city with more " venues "but it is still a quite drab uninteresting city although it has never put off a multitude of stars signing for United +City.
If Liverpool fc can attract players to live here then so can we, also most of them live in an area 40mins between both cities.
So to sum up what I'm trying to say Everton being in Liverpool shouldn't be an obstacle to players signing unless they want to live in London then
218 Posted 12/01/2020 at 22:01:17
219 Posted 12/01/2020 at 22:21:31
The Prem. has become a haven for many international stars as their names alone will attract the fans.
Some foreign managers tend to sign new players who speak their language, Wolves being a prime example.
Everton have a ways to go to get players of a high enough calibre
to compete with the likes of City and RS but we all hope Ancelotti is the answer.
The biggest difference is having class strikers of which City and RS have an abundance of. That has to change at Everton.
220 Posted 12/01/2020 at 22:23:39
I thought we did ok yesterday.
A few player observations; Although Keane started a bit shaky he played well overall and put through one or two very good balls.
Siggy deserves credit, he was rightly lambasted following the farce last Sunday but put in a full shift yesterday and again did ok overall. I dont think he is the answer longer term though and a squad player at best I would say.
I also noticed Sidibe changing from right to left but I didnt think the defender was necessarily blocking a right foot cross.
As for VAR; doesnt the very name define as assisting the referee as opposed to overruling him? The refereeing standard appears to be dropping and I am not surprised with VAR being implemented the way it is. The refs look just as confused as everyone else. I think the suggestions for improvement made in previous posts look good but particularly the suggestion that the on field ref must consult the replay evidence and has the final say. I assume that should a team score whilst play continues during a VAR check that results in the original decision being changed then the subsequent goal will be ruled out? To add complication, what if the player who scored was subject to a red card VAR check - same result I presume as in goal chalked off, player sent off and play taken back. What a potential mess that is.
221 Posted 12/01/2020 at 22:31:04
I agree with you that we will see more of this tinkering with seemingly odd combinations of players, in order to give the new manager a clearer picture of who he can use and where.
222 Posted 12/01/2020 at 22:42:43
I know from some of your previous posts that you have refereed at a good standard. Interested to know how you would feel, as a ref, knowing that a crucial decision may be overruled by VAR?
223 Posted 12/01/2020 at 23:21:41
As for Manchester being a bigger draw as a city, fuck that. It's just a shit little wannabe-London. Liverpool is by far the more interesting and characterful place, and I say that as someone who now lives in that there London myself. When I left Liverpool, there was no way I was moving to Manchester - if you're after the big city experience it doesn't even come close.
224 Posted 13/01/2020 at 08:08:06
All 5 get my vote!
225 Posted 13/01/2020 at 15:13:41
The signing of Ancelloti more or less guarantees such, so let's all relax and look forward to better things next season.
It was always thus.
226 Posted 13/01/2020 at 17:35:51
227 Posted 13/01/2020 at 18:38:58
228 Posted 13/01/2020 at 22:32:13
The problem is the rules. They need to be simplified and explained. Offside by VAR that can spot (but still some debate how accurately) a few centimetre is annoying but more accurate and therefore correct.
What isn't clear is how far back do they check in the lead up to goals? Debatable free kicks, corners, throw ins. If this isn't the job of VAR let us know. If it is there needs to be a consistent approach say any infringement in the prior 60 seconds etc.
As for hand ball, diving and free kicks VAR is being used by referees as an excuse not to give out yellow cards and not stop play as VAR will let them know. It doesn't, it's inconsistent and is being used the wrong way.
Totally agree referees should be made to view VAR if the VAR assistant over-rules referee. Not shoulder shrug and point to the sky. It's a cop-out.
Anyone approaching the referee when viewing or attempting to view VAR should be booked instantly.
229 Posted 13/01/2020 at 22:52:28
Just let Referee and yes they are all barely average, run the game. What we have now is worse.
VAR should NOT tell the Referee, The Referee asks VAR - did I see what I thought I saw...or didn't see. Then blows his whistle.
230 Posted 14/01/2020 at 15:10:35
It is the same with this handball thing which VAR is ruling out decent goals with. I know it is only working to the rules but the goals would stand if VAR wasn't there checking them. To say it's handball when the ball hits someone's arm with no chance of them avoiding it is silly.
On the subject of the last game – a decent win and a welcome 3 points. But we should ditch Sidibe as he is a total liability. He was terrible in the cup game and not much better in this one. Yes, he can cross a good ball but that's about it. If we are really trying to improve, that is not enough to get him a move here. I wouldn't even give you a tenner for him - to waste even a few million on him would be criminal.
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