Blues victorious in a tremendous Goodison exhibition

By Michael Kenrick 01/09/2019 225comments  |  Jump to last

Fabian Delph makes an impressive home debut

Everton kick off their second home game on Sunday with the visit of Wolves to Goodison Park.

With Jean-Philippe Gbamin suffering a long-term thigh injury, Fabian Delph makes his home debut this weekend while upfront, the need for goals is entrusted to Richarlison, Iwobi and Kean. Schneiderlin, Bernard and Calvert-Lewin drop to the bench.

Wolves make five changes from their last Premier League game as they continue to manage Europa League commitments as well, with Ryan Bennett, Ruben Neves, Patrick Cutrone, Ruben Vinagre all coming into the side. Jesus Vallejo, Joao Moutinho, Jonny and Diogo Jota all drop out from the side that beat Torino on Thursday.

Bright sunshine at Goodison Park for an early Sunday Afternoon kick-off thanks to the Europa League. Everton started slowly but showed early intent to get the ball up to Moise Kean playing on the right. But Sloppiness from the Blues allowed Wolves to press and advance.

Smooth movement saw Sigurdsson head over from a very nice position off Iwobi's cross, but no drive or direction on the header. But a crazy mistake at the back and Richarlison took full advantage, Cody at fault with the backpass to Rui Patricio but the perfect start for goal-starved Evertonians.

Wolves pressed well in response but the ball would to stick with Kean and Trare was completely sozzled Coleman and the ball sat nicely for Saiss to knock it in from 2 ye=ards. Terrible defending.

Iwobi was tackled by Bennett and went down but no penalty. But a great hook up t Sigurdsson gives him space for a fantastic cross that was very difficult for Iwobi but he made no mistake, heading into the roof of the net. Simply brilliant from the Blues.

And incredible Wolves move from a corner deserved a goal but was denied by a fantastic save, and he plucked the ensuing corner out of the air well then picking out Richarlison, the ball reaching Coleman and out for a corner. Tremendous start to the game, At the other end, Cutrone got sight of goal but shot well wide.

Richarlison clumsily fouled Boly but hurt himself and stayed down, twisting his ankle and needing lengthy treatment but eventually walking off normally. Everton defended a free-kick and looked to break fast until Delph reversed it back to Mina. Sigurdsson tried a clever ball that cannoned out off a Wolves player. Richarlison went down again but was adjudged to be the offender.

Gomes gave away a trademark soft but dangerous foul, the free-kick swung in well, crossed back in but saved well by Pickford, but very threatening from Wolves, who look like they can score each time they attack. Jimenez then beat Coleman easily and fired at Pickford.

Vinagre beats Coleman like he was standing still and the ballin fell nicely to Coutrone who lashed goalwards but it's deflected for a corner that Everton defend well. Ironic cheers for a call finally given in Richarlison's favor.

A great crosses from Coleman, then from Sigurdsson wins a corner, Mina jumping high but a soft header to Rui Patricio. Another good ball in for Kean to attack but he was blocked. Another Wolves long throw from Bennett ended in a corner for Wolves. after good defending by Digne.

Richarlison delivered a fine cross as it was Everton's turn to attack but nowhere near as threatening as the visitors as Everton slowed things down too much and lost the ball. A great ball forward to Cutrone was picked up well by Pickford. Everton pressed forward again but the ball would not fall for a Blue shirt in the area.

Kean tangled a little with Boly, who was close to a yellow card for his physicality. A tremendous piece of anticipation and skill dispossessed Coutrone in a very dangerous position. Richarlison was scythed down by Vinagre who went in the book. But nothing from the Everton free-kick and another long ball over the back to Jimemenz was saved by the offside flag.

Everton were struggling at times with the strong midfield press from the swarming Wolves player who wanted to deny them any space. Another long Bennett throw, a bad pass to Jimenez and he interfered with Digne taking the throw-in: stupid yellow card.

Keane was called for a nothing foul, hugging Cutrone a little in the middle of the card, and everyone screamed at Anthony Taylor. Traore beat Digne with consummate ease again but Pickford picked out the cross. Cutrone then fouling Keane, and a little bit of needle. A late corner to Wolves was defended away, bringing a very lively half to an end.

Soon after the restart, Mean wins a corner that Sigurdsson sends in high and the ball went all round the Wolves are in the air. Sigurdsson ran brilliantly at Wolves but passed behind Kean. Richarlison then takes out Richarlison who fouled him cynically. Nothing from the free-kick as Wolves tried to break, Sigurdsson fouling Cutrone.

Another threatening long throw was eventually dealt with, Pickford collecting the final cross.. Rapid switches in play made it a very high-paced game, with action all over the pitch. Sigurdsson played it too far ahead of Coleman who was held a little by Siass.

Jimenez this time dod not win he battle with Coleman, at the expense of a corner that Mina got his head to, but another long throw, but a foul called. But playing it out from the back was risky at best. Some lively fast play and a lot of turnovers in midfield, Kean getting pressed hard by three defenders each time the ball came to him. Richarlison tried something clever that did not quite work, but was appreciated

Kean got to run into the area but Bennett tackled him very well. Digne's run off the ball was impeded by Bennett. Moutinho came on for Saiss, the pace of the game unrelenting, Everton getting a reasonable free-kick for Sigurdsson to play in a fabulous ball but Kean was not well-positioned and headed it over.

Everton's build-up play was deliberate but not inventive enough and as Wolves broke, Delph was done by Jimenez and reacted with a poor late lunge. Iwobi fought well only to give the ball away.

Delph was done again but the Wolves player breaking took the ball too far, only for Gomes to steal it from him. Richarlison did brilliantly to win a tussle on the right but then passed straight to Boly. Neves catches Siggurdsson's ankle in a lunge but is not booked. Cutrone replaced by Jota.

Digne did better to thwart Traore, both glaring at each other. But the turnovers were nerve-wracking. Boly stamped on Kean's boot, and should have seen a second yellow but wasn't. Another chcne for a ball in from Sigurdsson, right into the danger area, the return in from Digne winning a corner.

From the corner, Mina's shot hits a shin, and then a hand, deemed accidental cos it was a defender's... no penalty. Calvert-Lewin was readied to replace Kean but Iwobi went down injured. Another long throw and it bobbles to Jimenez who heads home with Digne's boot in his face. It had been coming since the 11th minute.

A double change planned before the goal: Bernar and Calvert-Lewin on for Iwobi and Kean, and a really determined attack from the Blues, stunned by giving up that goal.

Richarlison scores again with his head, coming in behind Boly with a fine fine header off a brilliant cross from Digne, a simply brilliant Everton goal to reassert control over this tremendous game.

Richarlison, on a hattrick and full of confidence, jinks inside past Boly (?), and fires a superb shot across Rui Patricio but hs fantastic stretching save denies the Brazillian, and Wolve go up the other end for another fearsome attack from another llong throw and corner.

Some more great attacking play from Everton but the passing wasn't quite accurate enough, but the Blue knew that, in this game, attack was the best form of defence, Sigurdsson with another corner, somehow kept out by Rui Patricio, a perfect header from Mina in a lot of space, going in to his left but brilliantly saved. In the reprise, Mina headed wide.

A coming together off-ball, and the resulting Wolves free-kick was repelled by ta n Everton defence that simply had to hold firm against this fantastic Wolves side, marshalled so well by Nuno Espirito Santo.

It was a fantastic atmosphere as the final minutes played into 5 of added time, 5 minutes for Everton to hold out...

Vinagre fouled Colemen as Everton tried to press forward, Richarlison winning a corner, taken short for Calvert-Lewin to hold up but the ball was eventually lost and a final attack, but Neto crashed into Rcharlison and saw yellow.

Everton pressed again but Bernard lost the ball, the Calvert-Lewin's shot was blocked. Richarlison was then brutally body-check by Boly who git a second yellow and a red, for another cynical foul, the only blot on an excellent battling display from a very impressive Wolves side.

Scorers: Richarlison (5', 80'), Iwobi (12'); Saïss (9'), Jiménez (75')

Everton: Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Keane, Digne, Gomes, Delph [Y:63'], Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Iwobi (76' Bernard), Kean (76'Calvert-Lewin).
Subs not Used: Stekelenburg, Holgate, Sidibe, Schneiderlin, Tosun.

Wolves: Rui Patricio, Bennett [Y:59'], Coady, Boly [Y:49';YR:90+5'], Traore, Dendoncker, Neves (84' Pedro Neto [Y:90+4']), Saiss, (59' Joao Moutinho) Ruben Vinagre [Y:39'], Jimenez [Y:44'], Cutrone (68' Jota).
Subs not Used: Vallejo, Gibbs-White, Jonny, Ruddy.

Referee: Anthony Taylor

Attendance: Anthony Taylor

Reader Comments (225)

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Brian Murray
1 Posted 01/09/2019 at 12:41:59
It's not criticising just for the sake of it but if Silva continues to dither over big moments like subs and in game management then the squad we have at the moment will continue to flatter with good days and bad. Not dissimilar to Ole at Man Utd.

If we can say after every 90-plus minutes we have done everything possible to get the win, then the fans will be fine with that until we get the team we really want. It's the cheap goals and defeats, like at Villa that will, that will accelerate Silva's fate. Let's hope he is learning fast and we turn out to be so lucky to have him. Coyb

Sam Hoare
2 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:05:02
Strong team! Though one I fear may be very susceptible to the counter attack.
Christy Ring
3 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:10:33
Happy with team selection, Davies out of favour completely, no Doherty for Wolves.
Derek Knox
4 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:11:55
I like the positivity in that team selection, and Sam hopefully the above selection will give Wolves problems, which will limit their potential counter-attacks.

Hats off to Marco's selection, here's hoping that we are rejoicing from a loftier position in the table, come 4 o'clock.

Teddy Draper
5 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:15:17
Looking forward to this one, the team selection is the one I think will tell us if Kean is the one to put the ball in the onion bag. Hopefully on a regular basis which we all know has been lacking to give us that extra boost in league placings. My prediction (based solely on the starting eleven) 3-0. COYB
Ian Lloyd
6 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:22:52
At last!
Jim Harrison
7 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:25:28
Feel for Bernard, for me Richarlison has been disappointing, but if he is back in the left maybe he will improve.
Francis van Lierop
8 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:29:31
Pleased that Alex Iwobi and Moise Kean are starting.
Derek Knox
9 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:38:44
Francis, a lot were skeptical when we paid what we did for Alex Iwobi, and I include myself partially in that too, not about his playing ability but the amount we paid.

I think he has shown thus far that we have made a good investment and he gives us something that has been sorely lacking for a long while. I really like the guy.

Jay Wood

10 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:39:13
On form and potential to deliver, that's a good starting XI, other than Gomes for Schneiderlin with the former offering very little thus far whilst Morgan has been playing well.

As suspected, Bernard is the one whose starting place is most at risk with the signings of Kean and Iwobi. Delph I feel is going to prove a very important signing for us.

Let's hope for a marked improvement to last season's horror show at Goodison Park against the Wolves.

John McGimpsey
11 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:43:13
No sign of Davies which to me is a good sign. Maybe now this attack-minded side can put Wolves to the sword.
Dan Nulty
12 Posted 01/09/2019 at 13:59:47
No excuses today, think that is the team most of us wanted to see.
Ian Lloyd
13 Posted 01/09/2019 at 14:22:30
Oh look we have picked some new signings and dropped side ways bob and DCL and we look dangerous at last ! It’s not rocket science is it?!?
Ciarán McGlone
14 Posted 01/09/2019 at 14:50:35
Enjoying this immensely.. but I wish Silva would move Richarlison of the right. He clearly isn't suited to it.
John McGimpsey
15 Posted 01/09/2019 at 14:51:22
Much better and quicker. Moisse movement is creating spaces for others. Playing Awobi in a bit quicker and we will scoring again..
Jay Wood

16 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:02:10
Thoroughly entertaining game. If anything, TOO open for comfort!

Sigurdsson has been excellent. Further goals for Everton are likely if he can keep delivering from the flank as he has. Iwobi again showing that maybe, just maybe, we did well to land him instead of Zaha that so many lobbied for. Totally logical to play Iwobi left and Richarlison right when the Brazilian showed his best form in the closing matches of last season in that position.

Kean a bit peripheral. We are not playing to his strengths asking him to be the target man, playing with his back to goal. Like Richarlison who was asked to play there, he is better collecting and running from deep front on at defenders.

The concerns are down both flanks. Digne is having a real struggle against Traore and got roasted for their goal. Coleman has been zipped past a couple of times also. Delph showing good control and awareness at the heart of midfield, albeit with one or two loose plays also.

Gomes continues to be Gomes. Very little impact on the game other than to lose the ball and cough up cheap free kicks. He really needs to step up.

There will be more goals in the second half. Let's hope we get the bulk of them.

Ian Lloyd
17 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:55:16
Get in!
Martin Berry
18 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:56:24
Wolves are a good footballing side but Everton were better and excellent today and thoroughly deserved the win. Well done lads
Steve Brown
19 Posted 01/09/2019 at 15:59:29
Delph was magnificent in that game. What a performance.
Jamie Crowley
20 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:00:04
I'll just copy and paste Colin Glassar's comment from the Live Forum:

Good result but loads to improve on. We are crap playing slowly but look really good when we up the tempo. Be brave Marco. Unleash the hounds!

Massive 3 points. Thrilled with the result!

Ciarán McGlone
21 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:00:50
Full credit all round. Everybody played their part. Still shaky at the back though.. needs more work.
Ernie Baywood
22 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:02:47
3 points and plenty of entertainment. Some really good performances but I'll pick out Delph and Sigurdsson plus the obvious Richarlison.

Don't understand why we try to slow the game down when we're ahead. We never look as good when players are waiting for passes instead of moving the ball quickly.

The only question mark for me was who starts as centre forward next game. Kean looked a bit lost being asked to play right up top. I think he'd rather be pulling into the flanks. Maybe it is DCL after all until Kean adapts.

Thomas Lennon
23 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:04:47
Good win, new players, new formation, three goals. Progress in attitude and altitude.
Mark Frere
24 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:05:05
Delph, excellent. Siggy, excellent. Gomes, very good second half. Richarlison always works very hard and scores goals... but needs to improve his final ball. Digne at fault for both their goals... needs to improve defensively. A lot of room for improvement but we were worthy winners.
John Boon
25 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:05:10

Just made up.Why say anything else!!!!
David Milner
26 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:06:10
Yerry Mina was immense & unlucky not to score with his header. Rico was unlucky not to get his hat trick. Rui Patricio was the busier of the goalkeepers.

Thoroughly good match played at the speed it should be. Our midfield looked much better with Delph & Gomes together. Feel sorry for Seamus but both goals were his fault.

Paul Hay
27 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:06:25
Steve & 20.
Totally with you but Yerry superb as well.
Jamie Crowley
28 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:07:33
Ernie @23 -

I thought Kean was very good today. Surely I can't be the only one?

Every time that kid is on the ball it gets me on my feet. A real danger up top - he has to continue to lead the line for me.

Oodles of talent in that boy. Keep running him out there!!

Paul Tran
29 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:08:19
I enjoyed that. They sat back, begging us to over-commit and get us on the counter-attack. We didn't fall for it and worked our socks off. How many chances did they have?

I keep hearing Wolves are a good team. We've just beaten them. Deservedly.

Jamie Crowley
30 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:08:28
That handsome bald fella in midfield sure made a difference.
Danny Baily
31 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:10:03
Delph looked great, love Richarlison's attitude. A good response to the Villa match!
Jamie Crowley
32 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:10:30
Just realized, we have the best looking midfield in the Prem - Gomes, Delph, Sigurdsson.

Lady slayers who happen to be damn good footballers when it all clicks.

Dangerous on the pitch and in the nightclubs and pubs!

Andy Crooks
33 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:10:38
Bill G from USA, so pleased for you. Great game and a glimpse of what this team can do. Bill, please write an article about your trip.
Paul Jones
34 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:12:05
At half-time, my wife asked me how I thought it would end up. I said, "If we don't score in the first five minutes of the second half, it would be 2-2."

And then it happened – they equalised. And I thought "That's that".

But I was wrong. This wouldn't have happened last season. So maybe – just maybe – we're getting there!

George Cumiskey
35 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:13:32
Great game for the neutral, a nervous one for Evertonians.

I thought Mina was immense.

Jay Wood

36 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:14:44
Edgy and we didn't maintain the same control and levels of football in the second half, but we just about deserved it. Wolves are a very tricky opponent.

Currently up to 5th so things definitely looking up.

Traore better contained in the second half and Digne redeemed himself by digging out a great cross tight to the goal line for Richarlison's winner. Excellent movement and perfectly angled header by Richy for his second. For those claiming he doesn't play as well wide right today made nonsense of that. And didn't he put his usual shift in, running back and getting in any number of covering tackles, as well as skinning Bolly to get him sent off.

Iwobi impressed 1st half but faded second. Bernard did well when he came on. Kean's hold up play and attempts at turning away from his defender not the best today. How he was being asked today doesn't best suit his game. He should be receiving the ball from deeper with space to run at defenders.

Sigurdsson back to his best today and, like Richarlison, did a lot of grunge work to help out his defence. Delph showed he is going to be a big influence on the team this season. Gomes improved in the 2nd half after being rather anaemic in the 1st.

Another big positive for me is that we increasingly have more quality coming on from the bench.

Still not firing on all cylinders over a full 90 minutes in the league yet, but plenty to be encouraged by.

Steve Brown
37 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:17:04
Paul @ 28, yes he was! Plus Siggy, Gomes and Richarlison finally showed up. A tough game against a good side, but we were better and deserved to win. Agree with those posting on the pace of play, we are exciting when moving the ball with pace but an accident waiting to happen when we slow the pace down.
Jim Harrison
38 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:17:30
What a great game! Credit to wolves, they cane sand made an effort
Jay Wood

39 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:18:09
Just to add, as evidenced by the offerings by different posters, there were many candidates for MoTM. Another positive to take from the game.
Jamie Crowley
40 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:20:19
Spot on Jay @40. Lot of players contributing to a true "team win".
Michael Kenrick
41 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:21:09
Maybe I'm too much of an unemotional neutral then, George, but I thought that was a fantastic game, and something I've been asking for since Day 1 of this season.

Paul (#35), I love the pure energy, desire and skill from the Wolves side, only spoilt by those horrible cynical fouls that should have been far more harshly punished. But every time they came forward, I felt they would score. Maybe the fact that they didn't means they are not as good as they looked at times.

For me, team selection was a perfect response to the abject conservatism shown by Marco Silva at Villa Park, and it paid dividends, even if it was a big slice of luck that got us that vital first goal. But we had to go ahead three times to win this, and you do that by scoring goals — not by holding the fucking ball up!

Jamie Crowley
42 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:21:17
Pickford was superb today as well. Distribution was good, came up with one really big save, commanded his area. Great game for Jordan. Couldn't do much about the two goals.
Jamie Crowley
43 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:22:54
Maybe I'm too much of an unemotional neutral

The last thing in the world anyone would describe you as, Michael, is an unemotional neutral!

Christy Ring
44 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:24:24
David @27, How you can blame Coleman for both goals is baffling to say the least, Digne was caught out badly twice, even though he shouldn't have been marking Jimenez, for the 2nd. A thoroughly deserved win, delighted for Richarlison, and our midfielders played very well.
Gerry Ring
45 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:26:49
Great game & superb performance. Delph excellent & great team effort. How bloody strong are Man City if Delph wasn’t even good enough for their bench. A lot of encouraging signs across the board.
Derek Knox
46 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:27:08
Bill Gienapp, you proved to be a Talisman like I predicted, so good on you there mate, are you available in a fortnight's time?
Derek Knox
47 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:27:08
Bill Gienapp, you proved to be a Talisman like I predicted, so good on you there mate, are you available in a fortnight's time?
Ed Prytherch
48 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:31:29
Delph and Gomes were a good midfield partnership today. I would like to see them start some more games together.
Andy Crooks
49 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:31:54
Michael @42, great post, great write-up as the game went on. No-one else does this. Absolutely top drawer football reporting.
Derek Knox
50 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:34:02
Ed, I felt Gomes only started playing, well into the second half, but agree on Delph.
Derek Knox
51 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:36:27
Any game where we have a one-goal lead is nail-biting enough, but relief and 3 points come the final whistle, is much appreciated. I know it's early in the season but we still seem to lack that killer instinct.
Brian Wilkinson
52 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:37:26
Martin @1, are you ecstatic then?
Ciarán McGlone
53 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:38:12
Richarlison doesn't play as well on the right. Today hardly makes a nonsense of that statement. Both goals were scored in the middle.

His work on the right today was hit and miss. He naturally wants to cut in on his right. If you can't, or don't want to acknowledge that then that's your prerogative...

There was no purple patch for him on the right last season. He belongs on the left or through the centre.

David Milner
54 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:39:22

Seamus was at fault for the first goal as he stuck his foot out & stopped the ball right in front of their striker gifting him the goal, just clear the ball.

The second goal Seamus was playing all 3 of their strikers onside whilst Keane & Mina had moved up to put them offside. Watch the highlights if you disagree.

Brian Wilkinson
55 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:41:21
Well I got well ripped when I said Delph will be one hell of a signing and that he will bring that much needed leadership to the team, when we signed the guy.

Did not go down well with a few posters at the time, but I still say, if we can keep this guy fit, he will be an absolute bargain for what we paid for him.

Jim Gore
56 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:42:31
Chuffed to bits with that result, I love to see us upping the tempo. We're moving in the right direction.
Stephen McNally
57 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:46:22
Delph and Iwobi look to be very astute signings. As for Moise Kean, I don't think he did much today but he will need time to adapt. There were a few good performances today from Richalison, Mina and Delph but Delph deserves MotM. Keep it up, Blues.
Martin Mason
58 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:50:34
Brian@53, probably a bit early yet for me to get all ecstatic but for me that was a great win today and a sign of the way we are heading. I've watched Wolves and they are a good side. I'm feeling positive again.
Kieran Kinsella
59 Posted 01/09/2019 at 16:53:45
Wolves did their homework. They kept trying to get behind the fullbacks and whipping in dangerous crosses. Real test of character but we did well to come through a tough test
Bill Griffiths
60 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:00:00
I think you give Wolves too much credit in your report, Michael.

As I saw it, we were fully in control of the game most of the time, gifting them their two goals.

I thought we showed really good game management towards the end.

Brian Wilkinson
61 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:05:34
Nice one Martin, if you look at the title sides of the eighties when we won the league twice, we always started the season dropping points early doors.

Not sure why, has happened for well over 25 years where we play catch up early doors.

This season I will put it down to the new signings not getting much pre season playing together.

Give it a few weeks and hopefully, we will work out our best starting 11.

The negatives from some were about Delph signing, about not landing Zouma.

I think both Delph and Mina are showing us something different.

Kean will come good, I would certainly keep with that starting 11, using Bernard as an impact sub.

Would also like to see Tosun used from the bench, instead of Walcott.

Mike Gaynes
62 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:09:38
David #54, Seamus and Digne shared blame for both goals.
Alan J Thompson
63 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:10:16
Well, the first 15 minutes were something else but not the best. We were gifted a dream start if that's what the opposition giving you a goal is and then, being considerate, we gave them one back. For the rest of the first half we gave more than we got but Digne looked lost without Bernard.

Obviously, I don't know what was said at half time but Delph dropped into that role that Davies and Schneiderlin have been told how to play (and suffer?), don't go more than 10 yards over the halfway line and we looked a lot less effective because of it. The midfield have to go forward and defend as a unit and no more of this just sitting in front of the back four.

I couldn't believe that when it came to substitutions the two most effective players (Iwobe & Kean) were the players taken off and while we looked more effective down the left with Bernard it needed Richarlison to be moved into the middle. I don't know what Silva's plans are for Richarlison but he has to get him more involved in the middle rather than out wide on the right and he has to have a word in his shell like about falling over for no more apparent reason than a defender is near him.

Still, three points from a side who look like they could and should be a lot better.

Michael Kenrick
64 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:10:35
I don't know about that, Bill.

Traore absolutely skinned Digne for the first cross in. Yes, Coleman should have done better but the lad was there to score. But it would have been nothing without tremendous play by Traore that bested 'the best left-back in the Premier League'.

For the second goal, a brilliant cross in and a very brave header. Yea, Coleman may have been playing on the three attackers but he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head... or is that what people call 'ball-watching'? Either way, the goal could not really have been prevented, unless our 'best left-back in the Premier League' had been a yard or two closer to the ball.

But it's all about opinions. Kudos for yours but thems mine.

Terence Leong
65 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:12:59
Glad that we edged Wolves for the win. 3 points and a lot of positives, though I agree that each time Wolves attacked us, we looked like conceding.

Iwobi seems to be doing well and settled into the system. Kean has done well, considering how much is expected of a lone frontman. However, we are still not playing as a unit for the front four. And as long as we don't get that right, we won't be able to maximize the strengths of each of our attacking players. We are still pretty much attacking as individuals.

Digne did struggle against Traore. It's actually surprising that Wolves didn't try to exploit that more regularly. For a player of Traore's speed and strength, most players will struggle against him going full-pelt at them. This is where defenders need more guile against such players.

There is only so much we can expect Digne to do against such players, given what Digne's qualities are. We can only hope that the defenders learn to exercise more guile in showing players their weak side.

David Milner
66 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:15:40
Michael @64,

I am sure we will agree to differ but the main thing is that we played fast free-flowing football, scored 3 goals & won.

Mike Gaynes
67 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:16:17
Alan J #64, my complaint with the subs were that they were five minutes too late. But they both made perfect sense to me. Iwobi was clearly gassed to my eyes – not fully game-fit yet – and Kean had lost the ball in the middle a couple of times. And Bernard was the one who played in Digne for the cross to Richarlison, so I think both moves were borne out.

And I would say Richarlison is vastly improved on his "falling over" issue – he rode some tough tackles today and kept going. Great effort, end to end.

Tony Hill
68 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:18:29
Great game and atmosphere. I thought they all did well (Kean is obviously learning) but special words for Sigurdsson who I thought was superb, Richarlison, of course, and Delph. I also thought Gomes was transformed in the second half.

I suggested Coleman should be dropped. I thought he had his best game for us today for a long time.

Finally, Pickford's handling on crosses seems to have improved.

Very encouraging all round. Let's enjoy it.

Andrew Keatley
69 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:21:44
I missed the first 15 minutes and the last 15 minutes - so seemingly the good bits. I thought we were fairly timid and directionless from the hour I watched. Obviously great to win, but I think there is so much room for improvement all over the park. Delph adds some much needed guile and athleticism to our midfield.
Sam Hoare
70 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:22:17
Exciting and tense game. Thought it was an unhelpful point when they equalised.

Pickford 8- couple of good saves. Excellent distribution.

Coleman 8 - slightly unfortunate mistake for their equaliser. Thought he was excellent in the second half.

Keane 7 - mostly solid without ever looking impenetrable.

Mina 7 -similar to Keane. One or two times lingering on the ball which terrified me and will get caught out one day.

Digne 7 - much better second half and great assist but arguably at fault for both goals.

Gomes 6 - Got better as game went on and did make a few good tackles and passes. Not at his best yet.

Delph 9- excellent league debut. Read the game well making tackles, interceptions and showing for the ball intelligently. A leader in the middle. I thought he’d be a very good signing, he may turn out to be even better.

Iwobi 8- very useful for 55/60 minutes and was just tailing off a bit before his injury. Carries and passes well. Plus another goal. Think he’ll prove a big player for us.

Sigurdsson 8- worked his absolute socks off. Got a great assist and linked play well. Much more involved in the game than previous weeks.

Richarlison 9- Got better as game went on and never stopped running. 2 big goals and hopefully we’ll see more where that came from.

Kean 6- a tad ungenerous perhaps but did not see a great deal from him today. His movement looks decent though his touch was ropey at times. He will have better days I hope and seems to get in good positions.

Jeff Armstrong
71 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:26:15
I think Digne is one of the best forward-thinking left-backs in the premier league, which is different to being the best left-back in the Premier League, which he is not.
Dave Williams
72 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:27:23
Delph MotM for me closely followed by Mina. Silva sorted out the problem down our left at half-time getting Digne to avoid a sprint contest with Traore. Gomes grew into the game and had a very good second half. Much better from Sigurdsson and Richarlison. Pickford played with a calm authority which he didn't show last season.

I really like Iwobi though Bernard looked decent too when he came on.

We need to tighten up at the back but this team is now showing promise and starting to gel. Mina is proving his critics wrong and as for those who wrote Delph off before he had even kicked a ball – a great lesson to always give players a chance first – what a bargain he is. He ran the midfield for most of the game and I think was responsible for Gomes starting to play better.

Well done, boys – a very entertaining afternoon!!

Alan J Thompson
74 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:40:28
Mike(#67); The subs could well be so but I think that when a player has it over his opposition number then he should be kept on for a few minutes more, not part of a couple of substitutions. Indeed, Richarlison did suffer a couple of old time tackles but there did seem to be at least a couple of times when he went down for no apparent reason and one when his opponent was on the ground and he was two yards passed him.

And dare I ask, what was your opinion before "vastly improved". In any case, I don't think we are too far apart on our opinions on what we saw today and long may we worry about getting forward, players in the box in more numbers then just DC-L, and less about someone doing nothing more than sitting in front of the backline.

Tony Hill
75 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:41:52
Dave @72, yes Delph is true class, the way he goes about his business is a delight to watch. He's a craftsman. We need to pray that he stays fit.

I also think you're right about Delph's effect on Gomes. He won't allow his partner to wallow and drift.

Tony Abrahams
76 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:44:16
I thought the Moutinho sub, stopped Everton controlling the middle of the pitch, and then I thought Everton's subs wrestled them back into control.

Very good game, but a lot of work to do defensively, especially in the centre of our defence, but what a winning goal, for a team which is beginning to show a bit of bottle.

Made up with Iwobi, but I was equally happy with Bernard, because it's a squad game now, and I thought the little Brazilian got us back on the ball, after what I thought were our worst 10 minutes of the second half, leading up to Wolves's second equaliser.

Kase Chow
77 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:46:21
Brilliant win!!!

After all the criticism Richarlison and Sigurdsson have really stepped up

Superb winning goal – no one else in our squad would have scored that goal.

Derek Taylor
78 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:49:09
Who are we kidding about Kean? Certainly no improvement on DCL who will end up starring in midfield!

The new man looked like a Niasse impersonator for much of the game and will do well to claim a regular spot in the U23s.

Otherwise a good performance all round and as enjoyable as any seen in 2019.

Nicholas Ryan
79 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:53:15
Today was an important game. Why? because Wolves are a good side, well-organised, and playing mostly attacking football. They are likely to finish 7th/8th or thereabouts. If we're better than Wolves, we have a decent chance of the Top 6/Europe; if we're worse than Wolves, then we're mid-table at best. Thankfully, we showed ourselves to be better than Wolves.

A couple of points; Iwobi, Kean, Delph [and even Richarlison] didn't have a full-on pre-season and are still 'getting up to speed'.

As my pal pointed out: We mustn't forget that Kean is younger than most of the Everton players who have been sent out to 'get more experience'.

Was it just me, or did Pickford catch more crosses today than in his entire previous existence?!!

Alan J Thompson
80 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:53:51
Derek (#78);

You've got to be kidding!

Richard Mason
81 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:54:44
I thought the midfield controlled the tempo of the game, they sped up when needed, like for the 3rd goal.
Jay Wood

82 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:55:00
Ciaran @ 53.

"Richarlison doesn't play as well on the right."

Apart from today when he was one of many candidates to be MoTM, and the end of last season, when he had his best spell playing there in harness with the Siggy-Coleman triangle.

"Both [Richarlison's] goals were scored in the middle." was Iwobi's.

Richarlison plays EXACTLY the same, left or right. As did Iwobi on the left today and against Lincoln midweek. Both cut inside from the flanks into central positions where (surprise, surprise!) you increase your chances of scoring. They are NOT out and out wingers, instructed to hug the touchline.

Can you really not see or understand that is part of Silva's strategy, pretty much since he arrived at Everton. What Richarlison does not play well, in the way Silva asked him to play mid-season last year, is the target man central forward. Asking Kean to play that role today also did neither him (nor the team) many favours.

"His work on the right today was hit and miss." the two goals he hit on target, plus being denied a hat-trick by a full-length save by Patricia, and best not to mention the other times he linked up well with Coleman, Siggy, Gomes and Delph, or his graft in chasing back and helping defensively.

Other than that, you were spot on with everything Ciaran.

Sam Bull
83 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:58:52
I agree to an extent Derek, but it's early days, surely he's gotta be a bit nervous, and trying maybe too hard,

I don't think he is really a target man, and would be better trying to get in behind. We hardly ever try a through ball to play the striker in, but rather knock it sideways and then cross it.

Tony Hill
84 Posted 01/09/2019 at 17:59:05
Good point, Tony @76, I thought Bernard's attitude and performance when he came on said a great deal about him. He's a top asset for us.
Derek Knox
85 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:02:43
One small point I noticed today after Bernard came on as substitute, a midweek article said that Silva was to encourage Bernard to have a go at goal more often, at one point he crossed into the box.

His cross was met by either Richarlison or Mina who although on target was thwarted back out to Bernard, who was ideally placed albeit from a narrow angle to shoot at goal with only the keeper to beat, but chose to sling another ball into the crowded area, which came to nothing.

Paul Tran
86 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:03:02
Tony, they'd kept it tight the whole game and had started to push harder for an equaliser, which meant we had more space on the break, which is why the substitutions were the right ones.

We may have looked shaky at the back, but how many clear chances did they actually have?

Arguably the best side we've played so far and giving the pacy new signings an hour to create space and chances was better than giving them 30 mins to chase the game, as some have thought.

A good win... and yes, we can do better.

Ciarán McGlone
87 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:04:28
He plays exactly the same on the left or right?

I don't agree in the slightest.

However, it would be churlish to continue arguing about it today.

Tony Hill
88 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:04:39
Oh, and the Wolves fans today were an embarrassment to their club. Stale, bellowing halfwits.
Mike Gaynes
89 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:15:00
Alan J #80, no, he's not kidding. Posted the same thing on the Forum.
Grant Rorrison
90 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:19:22
Tony 88. Yeah, but in what way does that make them an embarrassment to Wolves? :P
Derek Knox
91 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:20:00
Mike G, I am almost convinced that some of our fans watch a totally different game to the rest of us. We have different opinions, yes, that is expected, but I fail to see that Kean could possibly be described as another Niasse!
Tony Abrahams
92 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:20:00
Paul, I thought we made the subs right after Wolves equalised? I thought we were in total control with Gomes finding a bit of rhythm, and Delph, showing a proper midfielder's positional sense but then Moutinho came on for them and I thought we lost just a little bit of control.

Gomes got better, his little switch passing to Digne helped get Bernard into the game, and it was also enjoyable to watch. Digne had a few problems defensively, but what a cross for the winner, and wasn't it great to see Richarlison get across the defender, in a style that I personally thought was reminiscent of Andy Gray!

Peter Neilson
93 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:26:16
Thought Delph was great. Like Gareth Barry, he has great awareness and seems to find that extra second before playing the ball. He was also vocal, even ordering Seamus at one point. Hopefully he can avoid injury and prove to be an important player for us.
Bobby Mallon
94 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:29:16
Digne was my MotM.
Paul Tran
95 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:31:53
You're right about the subs, Tony, that's what happens when I watch a game sober!

Wonderful cross and header for the winner. Digne had a torrid time and I thought he lost his man for their second. He made up for it with that cross, though.

The difference this season is that however they're actually playing, we have more players that can make things happen now. That means we're more able to conjure a goal out of nowhere when we need one.

Colin Glassar
96 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:38:54
Great result but let's not get carried away. When we play the slow game, we give our opponents time to organise and frustrate us but, when we up the tempo, we are a different proposition. Far better playing the high-press, high-intensity game.

My MotM was between Mina and Delph who were superb. Sigurdsson, Gomes and Digne were excellent second half but I'm really worried about Coleman. He's getting slower and his final pass was generally poor today.

Hands off Kean. He's 19, playing in a foreign country in a league which is three times faster than what he's used to. Give him time and he'll be more than fine.

Derek Taylor
97 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:41:23
To those in the rose-tinted, I pose but one question.

Had Calvert-Lewin been in the centre-forward shirt for the whole 95 mins and turned in Kean's performance, would you be praising him on improvement or giving him the usual 5/10 for trying?

Now be honest.

Stephen Davies
98 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:46:59
Peter #93.

You bring up a good point about being vocal. We've been crying out for Leadership all over the field for years and could really do with more of it within the team.

Martin Mason
99 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:48:41
Jay @82, exactly, that is how the wide forwards work in 4-3-3, the cut inside so that you get 3 forwards in the opposing area. The full-backs overlap and get the crosses in.
Bill Gall
100 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:49:49
Well, as supporters, we asked for an improvement from the Villa game and a solid team effort from today gave us that.

I commented last week that it was too early for negative criticism, and it needed to be seen how Silva would react and give the supporters a sign of how the new signings are going to fit in with his tactics.

Today we've seen how the team will be set up this season and it showed promise for the future...

I still believe Richarlison is more effective as a central striker, but Kean looks like he is going to improve, and it will be a great asset for Silva to choose. It was a good team performance today but 1 game does not make a season and hopefully we will continue to improve.

Paul Hewitt
101 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:51:21
Derek @97.

You're on a wind-up, surely?

Alan J Thompson
102 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:51:39
Mike (#89); Oh well, if he backs up his own opinion it must be right!
And do you think that Kean was no improvement on what has been seen previously or do you think it may have been some sort of reason that others stepped up to hide the "fact".
David Pearl
103 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:56:06
I'm in Canada at the moment and missed the game but just watched the highlights after reading the Sky and BBC reports.

It's interesting to start reading all the negatives on early posts and then wonder why we can't wait till the team cross the white line before putting anyone down.

Positive team picked but again that brings in the question of balance between scoring and conceding.

I wonder what those putting down the Delph signing are thinking right now? People never learn, do they...

John McFarlane Snr
104 Posted 01/09/2019 at 18:56:45
Hi all, I'm not long home from Goodison, where I witnessed a pulsating game of football, only to read posts criticising individuals, and some posters playing the 'blame game.'

Every goal that is conceded [in my opinion] can be traced to someone's mistake, the Wolve's fans will be holding their inquests at this moment, and playing their own blame game. I for one will relish the moment, an excellent game of football and a much-needed 3 points.

Josh Barber
105 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:01:50
Great game! Awful mistake from Coleman but we really played well as a team. Delph and Iwobi were magnificent. Kean had his quietest game so far but he just needs one goal. Great header by Richarlison who caught Boly asleep. Thrilled with the 3 points against a very good team!
Martin Mason
106 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:03:10
It is really funny how we see the game. The Telegraph report was of an exceptional game that was won by far the most polished side with Delph outstanding and Richarlison almost unplayable.
Andrew Dempsey
107 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:05:26
Derek #97

It's his first start of the season and for Everton. Who's the one with rose-tinted spectacles on? You, and the DCL apologists, that's who.

DCL can be a great weapon from off the bench, but this guy, Kean, is a superstar in the making.

Let's see if he fails to score (or excite) in his next 14 starts for Everton, at maximum fitness.

John Pierce
108 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:07:33
A game short on genuine quality from both sides, however strong on heart and character from our team. A long time since we dug one out.

Hugely disappointed to see a formation which I thought would struggle against a midfield who out number us.

I thought we never got any real control in the game, but several individuals stood out today to knit the team together. Delph was excellent, did a bit of everything with composure and was head and shoulders the best player on the park.

Richarlison was at his scoring best, appearing to be dead one minute and a veritable Lazarus the next. His header was top top drawer, best header of the ball since Cahill? His energy combined with Coleman's stamina gave us the outlet when Digne understandably suffered until his assist late in the game.
Kean was decent, his movement, anticipation and nark all there, his first touch will come at this level.

Lastly, Pickford, one excellent save, his handling was impeccable today.

Sigurdsson found space on the right and crossed the ball from open play frequently. Iwobi carries the ball, we need that.

The big problem was the centre backs today, I can't find any good remarks about them today. The concerns pre-season are valid and need to be addressed.

Well done, Marco, touch and go but a wild game.

Eric Paul
109 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:12:59
Derek @97 and Andrew @ 107, what is the point you are trying to make?
Darren Hind
110 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:15:12
Of course not Derek @97, but your criticism is a little harsh.

I'm a great believer in the old maxim "if you are good enough, you are old enough"... but only if the youngster is given freedom express himself. Give him responsibility and you will never get the best out of him.

To ask a young man to play up top on his own was a little cowardly from Silva IMO. The more he does it, the less effective we look.

I also think this was a lesson to those who have been screaming to get him in ahead of Calvert-Lewin. Silva does his forwards no favours by isolating them.

We have now seen DCL not start in two consecutive games and despite the hysteria, we have looked no more potent up front. A worldie free kick and a penalty gave us our first two goals against Lincoln. And today, a howler from the kopite set us on our way. That free-flowing football that created loads of chances for our strikers must have happened when I wasn't looking.

We were staring at penalties on Wednesday until DCL was introduced and we wrested back control and possession. We were all thinking we were heading for another draw today until he was again introduced and we were able to sustain more possession and a win. Not sayin it was all down to him, but he clearly gives us a presence and we do retain the ball better when he is one the pitch.

Those wanting to write him off and confine him into the history books need to think again. He's nailed on to start next game.

I was delighted with improved performances from Sigurdsson, Gomes, Richarlison and Keane. I was delighted with the win and I'm delighted that Richarlison's heading ability seems to get better and better.

Wolves were playing their tenth game of the season. It was a good time to play them after their European exploits, but they are no quitters and Maximum effort was required.

Job done, job well done.

Raymond Fox
111 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:18:28
A lot of pluses today, the new signings give us much more of a threat going forward, not too sure if we are too open defensively though.

If we can keep a relatively injury-free squad, we will be right up there with the fight for 5th or 6th – or whisper it quietly 3rd or 4th... perhaps that's being a bit ambitious but we can hope.

The problem I have with 5th or 6th is playing in that Europa League because it undoubtedly affects the Premier League performance the same season.

Richarlison was on song today which makes a world of difference, Delph is looking like a key player and Iwobi is likewise, Pickford's name is hardly mentioned which is good.

With regard to Digne trying to mark Traore, he can make any fullback look silly as he has speed to burn.

Coleman's regular position is more under threat, I'd say, he's not as sharp as he was. Not I might add that anyone has suggested Digne's position is under threat, far from it.

Dave Pritchard
112 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:23:32
Too early to judge Moise and he will surely get better but I wasn't particularly impressed with him today.
Alan J Thompson
113 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:23:55
Derek(#97); As you ask, I'll be honest, DC-L wasn't on for 95 minutes and neither was Kean. If there is anything to be said in DC-L's favour it was, as could also be said for Kean, that we saw more players getting into our opponent's penalty than we have seen previously.

Still, as you say, you've had your one question.

John Keating
114 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:27:11
Well the team and management were rightly slagged after the Villa game, however, today was a vast improvement all around. Long may it continue and improve.

A few more games together and Delph, Gomes and Sig show signs of forming a good understanding and balance.

Defensively we are still lacking and though we were in control of the game we could have finished up with heartache.

Great to see us continue showing a bit more bottle and togetherness

Dave Pritchard
115 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:29:21
Bobby 94 - Digne MotM? One of his poorer games for me but admittedly a great cross for the winner. Very responsible for their first equaliser.
Derek Taylor
116 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:30:04
Andrew 107: I'm no DCL fan, believing as I do that Brands should be hung out to dry for failing abysmally over three windows to come anywhere near replacing Lukaku.

To seek to pass off the likes of Dominic and the kid we saw today as candidates for the role of Everton striker is a crime. Does he think we are rustic hay munchers who buy into all the unadulterated crap we are fed by the hierarchy? We have eyes, and what we saw playing No 9 today was NO advance on anybody else being paid a fortune not to score goals on a regular basis.

As all else has failed, why not give up the search and utilise Richarlison or Iwobi down the middle. At least we know they can both trap a ball and recognise in which direction to aim their shots!

Gavin Johnson
117 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:34:15
I missed the game today but if there were 5 goals it must have been a good game. I thought they'd beat us, so I'm made up with the result.

Fair play to Silva for playing Kean, Iwobi and Delph. While I welcome Kean starting, tbh, I thought that Silva would give DCL a few more games and bring Kean on around the 60-min mark. Iwobi's directness means he starts for me. I think Bernard has talent, but he does flatter to deceive at times.

Ajay Gopal
118 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:44:24
I am one of the DCL 'apologists' – it is incredible how much work he does to win the ball from those long punts upfield, he almost always wins those headers. I do agree though that he needs to start scoring goals.

Moise Kean and Everton may be better served by bringing him on mainly as a substitute this season. I remember West Brom using Lukaku mainly as a substitute the season they had him on loan, and I think he still banged in about 15 goals. Kean is young, he needs time to adapt to the Premier League. In the meantime, DCL can do a fine job of holding up the ball, bringing in Richarlison, Iwobi, Bernard, Sigurdsson into play, and tire out the defenders for Kean to exploit when he comes on with about 30 minutes to play.

Alan J Thompson
119 Posted 01/09/2019 at 19:45:43
Derek (#116); Kean has played most of one Premier League game and to my mind did well but your expertise is writing him off already?

If you think Mr Brands should be hung out to dry for something that happened before he was employed by Everton, then I would suggest that you don't open any windows above the third floor.

Joe McMahon
120 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:00:21
Derek @ 116, that's a bit strong. Marcel Brands has been at Everton for 14 months and you expect him to put right over 30 years of mismanagement.

Today was an attacking and pleasing performance.

Jamie Evans
121 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:09:41
Derek Taylor... oh dear. Kean impersonating Niasse?

Really, Derek?

Stephen Brown
122 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:09:54
Getting more and more impressed with Mina!

In the last 20 minutes he was a really solid in seeing the game out!

Terry Farrell
123 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:10:31
Alan J T,

The 2 players substituted were spent and knackered. It's irrelevant that they played well or poorly. Once you are there, you have to make way.

Many games are won in the last 10 when fitness/fatigue is key. Made up with the starting line up and the result. Richarlison is a proper goal scorer and match-winner.

Amit Vithlani
124 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:11:13
We had a first meet up of the Nairobi Blues supporters club.

We booked a nice outdoor venue and the gods played their part :

- Glorious weather in Nairobi (it rained cats and dogs yesterday);

- A good turnout, 25 of us got together. Its tough getting together on a Sunday which is Church day for many of our club members.

- Our chosen venue was well organised

- Ofcourse 3 points in a rip roaring games.

Fabian Delph is our hero here. He made some timely interceptions and was always looking to pass forwards. I notice quite a few Man City fans saying very good things about him. Lets hope he stays fit!

A couple of Arsenal fans came to our section to say well done after the game and were congratulating us on signing Iwobi. They thought he will flourish.

Completely chuffed with the win.

We did look ropey at the back, the two full backs made mistakes, but we looked very good going forward.

Big things are expected of Kean, but its easy to forget how inexperienced at senior level he is.

I noticed Souness mouthing off on why Kean would ever chose to come to Everton. In my eyes, it must mean the boy is clearly a talent and a certain Marcel Brands has caused some envy.

Dave Evans
125 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:12:17

Why is everyone talking about you and your negativity? We won in a league where no game is ever easy.

Kean? He's doing just fine.

Terry Farrell
126 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:14:45
Amit... love it, mate.
Martin Mason
127 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:17:10

I believe that Brands has a target and a duty not to pay over a set limit for any given player and all that has happened is that the club has refused to pay currently inflated prices for players who are no better than we have.

Richarlison and Iwobe would be failures in the central role as they are both wide players in the 4-3-3 system that Silva prefers. Our system isn't pure 4-3-3 and we end up with our central strikers becoming isolated and goals being very hard to come by for them.

Calvert-Lewin is a very talented player but he isn't a lone striker. Why blame him for being a square peg in a round hole? Kean is also not a lone striker and he has the same problem. Blame the system – not the players.

In terms of not buying overpriced players, we should all support the club for this.

Josh Barber
128 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:18:54
Ajay #118,

Finally, a logical opinion about Calvert-Lewin and Kean. Everyone seems to think we all want DCL banned from the grounds or something. DCL offers something that Kean doesn't - hold-up play and aerial play. If we want to protect a lead it's the perfect time to bring on DCL. In fact, I told my friend at the pub today at the 70th minute that it was a good chance to bring on DCL to take back control of the game.

However Kean clearly tries to score every touch which DCL rarely does. Today was not Kean's best but he was surrounded by 1-2 defenders all game. Still, Kean created a goal-scoring chance at least once per game before today.

I don't understand people calling to play Richarlison or someone else at striker - it would be the same result. We don't provide good enough service to our lone strikers so other players wouldn't offer us much more at the moment.

Alan J Thompson
129 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:21:56
Amit(#124); Bewdy, mate, please let us know the turn out for a Saturday game and may be a rousing chorus of "Will you come to the mission, will you come".
Don Alexander
130 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:22:58
A vibrant, assertive performance today and long may it last, whilst hopefully improving. If it does, we might just be in a position to gatecrash the Sky-babes THIS season, given the wobbly set-ups at Chelsea and Man Utd.

Nurse! "Tablets please"!

Tony Abrahams
131 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:23:13
This little debate has got me thinking that we could actually play some games with a false Number 9 now we have got players with pace.
Peter Mills
132 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:27:17
An entertaining game against a good, tough team. We scored a couple of cracking goals, our goalie made two good saves, our midfielders played well, especially Delph, and we fought hard to get the win.

I’m happy with that.

Anthony A Hughes
133 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:34:49
Really good performance today and not to knock Calvert-Lewin but we've scored 7 goals in the last two games when he hasn't started. Maybe the team set up and chemistry is more geared to him being an a impact substitute. Up for debate?
Dermot Byrne
134 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:36:14
Delph a really good game.

As for attackers, seems we have quite a few with talent now and think each will contribute throughout the season.

I think we may have a boss who will also develop with them and we start seeing right players for right opposition.

Have to say... I think Kean and Calvert-Lewin need to get more balls to run onto and we need to mix wing based attacks with some down the middle.

I also think next game we may sit back and counter and then we could see some thrills from new boys and "old boys" like Calvert-Lewin.

I do love Bernard. Very exciting.

Happy day for me.

Sam Hoare
135 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:36:31
I think very few strikers would score a lot of goals playing as Silva's lone forward. It's something of a thankless task, running the channels and occupying centre-backs to make room for Sigurdsson and the wingers a lot of the time.

I think someone like Haller would have been ideally suited to the role and could have added goals and assists into the deal but it's a big ask for a 19-year-old and a 22-year-old – neither of whom are fully developed yet as players.

We are still a few players short of a top 4/5 team/squad. A developed, rounded striker, a fast centre-back, and an athletic ball-winning midfielder. Hopefully Kean and Gbamin might fulfill the first and last role eventually but they are not there yet.

Eric Paul
136 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:41:24

We played with a front three, not one.

Michael Burke
137 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:45:10
I'm struggling to understand the negativity. It was an exciting game. Both sets of fans were entertained. Is that not what was called for after the farce at Villa?

Everton will feel they could avoid both the goals they conceded, especially the first. There is a lot to be said for just putting your foot through the ball every now and then.

I never felt like we would lose the game. I thought we were in control for the majority of the game and dictated the pace well.

For the few getting stuck into Kean, remember back when you were 19. Take yourself to a new country with a different climate, language, and style of work. How would you be getting on? I'd say he's doing okay.

Eric Paul
138 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:51:43

I can never understand negativity. In my opinion, if you are an Evertonian there are no negatives.

Stephen Brown
139 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:52:35
Apologies if it's been said but I can't believe the comments by the odious Souness about Moise Kean!

Insinuating that he must have an attitude problem otherwise Juventus wouldn't have sold him!! Totally fabricated!

Paul Tran
140 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:58:36
Tony, I'm not sure Silva wants a false nine. I think he's looking for a pacy forward line that's interchangeable. It's inevitable that the forwards will have different individual strengths, which means he's looking for more options to manage the game, or make better choices for certain opponents/situations.

Calvert-Lewin is the best striker we have for holding up the ball. Asking Kean to do that is ambitious – it's clearly not his game. I'd argue Kean looks better at making his own chances. My hunch is that Calvert-Lewin isn't going to be a top goalscorer, but Kean? Who knows?

For me, comparing them as a like for like is simple and unhelpful. It's all about Silva getting the best out of them for the team.

Peter Thistle
141 Posted 01/09/2019 at 20:59:13
If someone could teach Digne to defend, he'd be one of the best in the world. Going forward, he's quality; going backwards, he's a liability.
Ian Riley
142 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:00:50
Interesting to read how people view today's match. We are going to entertain going forward and score goals. On the other side, we will ship goals. Transition it is and we must ride the ups and downs this team will bring.

For me, it's entertaining and a joy to watch quality players. Yes, we need discipline at times but, for the first time, we have a method of scoring goals rather than just keeping them out!!

Yes, I could moan about our defending or choice of players but I won't. Today we showed fight and passion to win the game against a well-drilled and skillful team. Not a bad start to the season.

Christy Ring
143 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:05:15
Kean is young and inexperienced, but today was his first Premier League start, and he needs time to adjust to our league. He has plenty of skill and, I have to say, the criticism is harsh.

Richarlison put in a great shift on the right, and I still think he can do a job up front, when needed.

Neil Copeland
144 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:16:15
It looks like we are starting to see a new identity evolve from the blues. The fight and passion shown in spades against Lincoln was there again today,

Another very entertaining game which was overall very enjoyable.

As others have already said we would have lost this type of game last season and the one against Lincoln and picked up one point at most against Watford.

Delph seems to bring the best out in Siggy and although I thought Schneids would be a better fit than Gomes, I thought Gomes grew into the game the more it went on. It was certainly good to see Marco Silva select such an attacking line-up, hopefully the first of many.

Defensively we seem to be suffering a bit but our forward play is making up for it at the moment. Certainly we will need to improve our defence against the better teams (although Wolves are not far off the same level as Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea) but lots to be very optimistic about. The most pleasing aspect for me is that we look like a team with a purpose and there is a real togetherness out in the pitch.

Looking forward to Bournemouth.

Gavin Johnson
145 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:20:54
It's relief that Richarlison is finding form again. Bernard shouldn't really be in the side when the other 2 forward players aren't playing well.

I think he'll still have a place in the side when we've got 2 goal threats in Kean and Richarlison but, when Calvert-Lewin plays, we have to play Iwobi on the left of the three positions for his directness and power. Bernard, Calvert-Lewin and Walcott offer little threat of goals.

Joe McMahon
146 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:21:39
Peter @141,

To be fair, you could have always said exactly the same about Baines.

Gerard Carey
147 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:30:36
Very harsh by the few having a cut off Kean. First league game to start, it's going to take a little time for him to fit in.

Support our players instead of putting them down. Age profile of the team has really dropped, we have some very exciting young players in the first team now.

Upwards and onwards.

Dermot O'Brien
148 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:33:37
Delighted with the win and especially the manner of it. Having twice been pegged back, we kept fighting and got the rewards. Brilliant.
John Malone
149 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:41:29
Peter @141, very harsh comment, that. I can't remember one player beating Digne one-v-one since he's been at the club; he's been outstanding in both departments.
Trevor Peers
150 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:41:57
Some observations from today's game; it's hard to imagine DCL having a long term future with the blues, everyone admits he's not a striker as he will never score enough goals. If we do buy the extra forward we need, he probably won't get much game time at all. He has got a future in the game but at what level and in what position is difficult to work out.

Kean has a chance to develop into a top striker he seems to have an eye for the goal, is hard to shake off the ball and can beat an opponent with power and pace, even though he hasn't scored yet. But it's not certain he will become a success either because there are no guarantees, it's just potential at the moment.

David Chait
151 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:47:57
When and Sigurdsson and Richarlison play well, invariably we win. Good to have Siggy back... really haven't understood how fans have been on his back cos of the slow start but that should hopefully sort that out as long as he keeps it up.

Kean did just fine. The test will be when he actually gets a goal-scoring opportunity, whether he nails it or duffs it.

Iwobi doing great. Not flash but really effective. Direct, runs, looks to score and make key passes and does a lot of his work in the final third. Exactly what I want from my attacking players.

Delph surprised me with his tackling and, as long as he stays fit, we should be okay in the DFM department with Gbamin out for quite a bit.

Chuffed with the result and 3 points. These are vital as the newbies still settle in.

John Malone
152 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:48:04
John Pierce 108, how were the centre backs at fault today when the first goal came from Digne getting beat down the side and the second came from the fact Silva's zonal marking system meant Gomes and Delph were marking Boly from their throw-in and got beat by the bigger man in the air??
John Reynolds
153 Posted 01/09/2019 at 21:58:05
Caveat - missed the first 15 minutes and haven’t read any of the comments above yet. Small matter of an All-Ireland final to watch (Kerry left it behind them and will lose the replay).

Cracking game and an excellent win. Putting Iwobi, Kean and Richarlison up against their back three was a clever tactic and put us on the front foot. Chapeau Marco.

Good performances all round with a few standouts.
Delph - cool, calm, assured, controlled. Gareth Barry MkII. He should be a key man for us this season.
Richarlison - he’s done his heading practice since Palace and got his mojo back. Hurrah.
Seamus - Vintage Seamie, bombing forward, linking with Richarlison, some excellent crosses.
Iwobi - continues to impress. Like the cut of his jib.

Sigurdsson - back to himself and did more than enough to justify Marco’s faith in him and shush the naysayers for tonight at least.

Gomes was pretty anonymous until someone flicked a switch with half an hour to go and suddenly he was everywhere, picking it up, knocking it about, holding possession.

My jury’s still out on Mina, thought he got lost for Wolves’ second but he was unlucky not to score and make up for it. Two fine saves from Patricio late on.

Three points from a game we possibly could have lost or probably would have drawn in previous seasons. Onwards and Upwards.

Andrew Keatley
154 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:01:18
Trevor (150) - About Calvert-Lewin you say “everyone admits he's not a striker as he will never score enough goals.”

I don't say that. I say he is a striker. And what is “enough” when it comes to goals?

My feeling is that Calvert-Lewin has a lot to offer, and I suspect that – when the team settles down elsewhere and we work out what our best XI is – he will start games and score goals.

Stan Schofield
155 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:13:33
Trevor @150: DCL is a very good player. He hasn't scored a lot of goals, and gets criticised for it. Lukaku scored loads of goals, and still got criticised.

Nobody knows whether DCL will score goals in the future. Who knows, as Andrew @154 says, we might be pleasantly surprised once we start really gelling and achieving some consistency.

Andy Crooks
156 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:16:31
Andrew, I agree, Dominic plays a selfless, utterly thankless role. He does what the coach wants, not what we want. Goal hangers are history so who should Dominic be compared to? Harry Kane?
Brian Wilkinson
157 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:22:48
Derek @97, we had scored one goal all season with Lewin on the pitch.

Since his absence and Kean starting, we have scored 7 goals inside a week, you can claim the third goal when Lewin had come on.

The team is playing with a better tempo, with Kean and Iwobi on the pitch.

That starting 11 today for me is our strongest 11 and without injuries, we have to stick with them.

One final note I would add as a different subject is the form of Mina and also Pickford catching the ball, instead of punching.

Michael Kenrick
158 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:24:50
Darren returns with his favourite bone — yes, the very one he promised he was done with:

"We have now seen DCL not start in two consecutive games and despite the hysteria, we have looked no more potent up front."

Those stats you hate, Darren: 7 goals in two games... versus how many was it? Oh yes... just 1 goal in three games.

'Hysteria' — not that there ever really was any (more Hind Hyperbole), just a difference of opinion on the ineffectiveness of a young player — vindicated in spades.

Andy Crooks
159 Posted 01/09/2019 at 22:29:55
Michael, that is unfair. We played Lincoln and we should have, and did score goals. Brian's post, based on two games is ludicrous and you know it.
Jay Wood

160 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:15:46
It is evident to me that Derek Taylor is given to sensationalism intended to provoke a reaction, as per his post @ 78 describing Moise Kean as "The new man looked like a Niasse impersonator for much of the game and will do well to claim a regular spot in the U23s."

And @116 "Brands should be hung out to dry for failing abysmally over three windows to come anywhere near replacing Lukaku."

But in his defence he also poses a legitimate question @ 97:

"Had Calvert-Lewin been in the centre forward shirt for the whole 95 mins and turned in Kean's performance, would you be praising him on improvement or giving him the usual 5/10 for trying?"

Moise Kean has oodles of potential and I'm confident he will come good. But I personally feel some are over-egging his performance today.

I don't think Silva did him any favours today playing him as the lone target man with his back to goal at the sharp end of the pitch against the likes of the giant Boly. Kean's game is better suited to picking up the ball deeper and running at a retreating defence.

The ball did not stick to him as well as DCL has demonstrated he can do. His attempts at drag backs to get away from his marker in the main saw the ball get away from him and the team lose the ball. He wasn't involved in any memorable link up play that put us on the front foot, or attempts on goal.

For me, Kean's performance today was very much a 5 out of 10, the grade Paul Trail awards him in his match report, correctly (in my eyes) making him the lowest graded performer today.

This view does not represent Kean-bashing or a pining for the return of DCL. Just an opinion I hold based on today's events.

I'm guessing that ultimately - as they have already displayed when all three played together at Lincoln - Silva is looking for a fluent and speedy front three of Iwobi, Kean and Richarlison, capable of interchanging position and all being effective at running at defences be it from wide or down the centre, shooting or heading on target, to really bamboozle the opposition.

To ensure its effectiveness it will require a solid and disciplined midfield, flying full/wing backs and high octane fitness and recovery to get back into position when the ball gets turned over.

I see plenty of evidence that we are on the right path to knitting all that together.

Brent Stephens
161 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:20:33
I enjoyed today. One goal in our previous three league games. And today alone we get three. That'll do me. And an assist from Kean for the first goal.
John Reynolds
162 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:27:01
I’m rapidly becoming Derek Taylor’s biggest fan and think he should be given the Curmudgeon of the Week award. I also loved his confident prediction just before the season started that we should “Expect to see Silva gone by Christmas”. Unfortunately, Simon Dalzeill has gone quiet tonight, so there are no serious rivals for the prize.
Tom Bowers
163 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:37:29
It's a good start to the season despite the Villa result and, whilst they are a work in progress, one can see the potential in all areas. Some obvious kinks to be ironed out and that may take a few more games but being ahead of Spurs and Man Utd after 4 games can't be bad.

Whilst all players appear fit except Gbamin, I would like to see one or two use the sick note ploy to keep out of the international games. You just know other teams will be doing it.

Hugh Jenkins
164 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:41:47
We are sixth. Behind Arsenal alphabetically.

Crystal Palace are fourth – how believable is that?

However, although Crystal Palace's position is a false one, in my view, so is ours.

It's early days and we are bedding in new players. I honestly believe that, this season, we can take up the position that Crystal Palace currently hold and make it our own.

Time will tell.

Derek Knox
165 Posted 01/09/2019 at 23:46:30
At the risk of sounding negative, I have just watched Match of the Day 2, and had a chance to see the highlights and goals again.

I thought the defending, if it can be called that, for their second goal was absolutely shocking, what was he trying to do, just clear it, rather than tee it up for the in-rushing forward? As luck would have it Richarlison scored the winner before the final whistle.

Another of those International Breaks already, and it seems the season has barely started, but it's the same for all Premier League sides. The only good thing being that our South Americans and African contingency are obviously not involved.

Bill Gienapp
166 Posted 01/09/2019 at 00:04:55
Andy (33), Derek (46) and everyone else who wished me well – suffice it to say, that was an absolutely fantastic match for my Goodison baptism and I'm happy to take any credit for having some sort of talismanic influence on the outcome, however small.

Obviously I wanted to win, but if you'd asked me the bare minimum I was hoping for, I'd have said “We need to score. At the very least, I need to hear Goodison erupt.” I thought back to our limp 1-0 home defeat to Leicester after New Year's and felt that would be an awfully depressing experience to take home with me... so when Richarlison scored just five minutes in (and me wearing my Richarlison shirt, no less), I was over the moon. The fact it was 2-1 before even 15 minutes had gone by made it feel like I'd already experienced more excitement than our first three league matches combined!

When Wolves leveled the match late, I was understandably aggravated, but thought “Well... if fate decrees my inaugural match be an entertaining 2-2 draw, I can live with that.” And yet... I had a feeling we were going to find a way to pull it off. And sure enough, the explosion when Richarlison scored the game winner will stay with me for a long, long time. Just an awesome moment.

To be honest, the stars really aligned for this entire experience. My Mom wanted to take me to London for my birthday – neither of us had been before – and obviously making the pilgrimage to Liverpool was #1 on my to-do list. However, we had to start making plans and arrangements at the start of summer, and since the schedule hadn't been announced, all I could do was cross my fingers and hope for the best. And sure enough, not only was Everton at home and facing a very appealing opponent in Wolves, but the match was moved to Sunday, which meant I wouldn't have to hop a train straight from the airport (which I was fully prepared to do, but I'd have been tired and stressed out). The outcome felt written in the stars.

I was a little worried about sitting in the Lower Bullens – section LB6 – since, in spite of the history, I'd heard it wasn't a particularly great way to watch a match, at least when you're near the back. But I loved it, restricted view and all (maybe I would have swapped with the little kid a few rows up who had his nose glued to his Nintendo Switch the entire time, LOL).

I'd write more, but I'm typing this on my iPhone and need to get to bed. I will say, you can tell how excited the fans are about Moise Kean, and how you could just feel a little jolt go through the crowd every time he touched the ball. The place was primed to blow the roof off if he scored – had that happened, it definitely would have been the extra cherry on top of a fantastic day.

Jay Harris
167 Posted 01/09/2019 at 00:07:16
For those criticising Moise Kean, I suggest you look at a rerun of the game.

Nuno had obviously singled him out for man-to-man marking and he constantly kept three defensers occupied which gave Iwobi, Sigurdsson and Richarlison the space.

I know he had a couple of occasions when he could have held the ball up better but, to me, he is head and shoulders above Calvert-Lewin as a centre-forward.

Some great performances today and a very enjoyable game (as we won) but we need to tighten up our concentration at the back and get a bit nastier in the tackle.

Jay Harris
168 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:13:52

I'm so glad you enjoyed your talismanic experience and hope you can make it again in the near future.

Jay Wood

169 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:24:02
Derek @ 165.

"The only good thing [about the international break] is that our South Americans and African contingency are obviously not involved."

'fraid they will be, matey. Indeed, Richarlison and Mina could face each other. Brazil play Colombia Friday night in Miami.

No excuses for non-attendance from Jamie Crowley!

Brazil then play Peru in LA on Wednesday, a replay of the recent Copa America final.

John Pierce
170 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:27:38
John 152.

Nowhere in my post did I say they were responsible for that first goal. I said I thought they had poor games, as individuals and as pair.

You've taken your own interpretation and ran away with it. That's okay. But they were pretty bad, as was Digne but that was to do with a pretty fast player going the other way and he still managed an assist.

Mina and Keane – no acceleration; they will get ruined by a decent centre-forward.

Andrew Keatley
171 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:34:53
I really do wonder where people are getting these ideas about Moise Kean being “head and shoulders” above Calvert-Lewin as a centre-forward. I would love for Kean to be a world-beater, but so far I have seen very little evidence that he is going to live up to his early billing.On the basis of today's showing, I think Wolves got the better young Italian striker, with Cutrone looking a much bigger goal threat.

I'll reiterate – I desperately want Kean to excel – but what I am seeing so far makes me wonder why others are so sure he's already a much better option than Calvert-Lewin.

John Malone
172 Posted 02/09/2019 at 00:48:18
John 170, so on what basis are you saying they had poor games?

I can remember Mina missing one header in the first half and I can't remember Keane putting a foot wrong just don't understand how you can say they had poor games?

If anything I'm shocked at how well Yerry Mina is performing. I had him down as a donkey after last season and was devastated when we never got Zouma but, so far this season, he has played well and was unlucky not to score today.

Derek Knox
173 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:07:50
Jay @ 169,

I didn't realise that there was a game arranged for Brazil and Columbia, fingers crossed no injuries for our guys.

I will try to watch it, if I can find it on an IPTV Channel, and look out for Jamie in the crowd (lol). Pity these international breaks are so disruptive when we seem to be hitting some sort of form and managing to get some points cemented on the board.

Same goes for all our other players who may be involved in matches, hope no injuries.

Eric Myles
174 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:08:27
John #170, while I agree that Digne had a poor game compared to his usual standard, I put that down to not having Bernard in front of him. Digne was much better when Bernard came on.

Our other backs played well. Mina has goals in him as he's a regular scorer for Columbia.

John Pierce
175 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:11:49

Both forwards peeled away from them repeatedly in the first half from long balls. Cutrone found himself in acres several times, where were either of the pair?

They sit 10 yards further back because they have no acceleration. That allows the forwards to drop off and receive the ball. (They are fast over longer distances, but that rarely matters though.)

Keane was nowhere on the 2nd goal from the throw and the flick on was misjudged by Mina. He does often get ‘under' a ball.

The problem is they both like to dominate, especially in the air. However, neither covers the other particularly well when the other loses out; add in the lack of acceleration to a scenario like that and it very easy to exploit.

Have one in the side by all means; paired with a pacy partner, they can then be aggressive and bully a centre-forward who often plays up from on their own.

I appreciate the alternatives are limited but I'd prefer Holgate next to either of them, despite his own flaws.

Jay Wood

176 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:25:40
Derek @ 173. Richarlison and Mina.

The boogers better not be kicking lumps out of each other!

Derek Knox
177 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:41:29
Bill @ 166,

Sorry, I just spotted your post when I scrolled back through the comments, don't know how I missed it the first time.

I am so, so glad that your holiday worked out and that you managed to get the home game in, although had the fixture list not been so kind, you may have been able to attend an away game.

As you will be aware, our travelling Blues always turn out in thousands, but there is nothing quite like the atmosphere at the Old Lady, especially when scoring and winning, which we did both today.

It will be a part of your fondest memory of Everton forever, made up for you Bill!

Ernie Baywood
178 Posted 02/09/2019 at 01:43:01
Christ, it becomes all or nothing very quickly here doesn't it?

I thought Kean had a very ordinary day. I reckon he'll be pretty disappointed that he couldn't really make an impact.

Derek's definitely right – if Calvert-Lewin was that anonymous for 70 minutes he'd be absolutely slated on here.

Where I don't agree with Derek is writing him off and sending him to the U23s. It's his first Premier League start and he's 19. Let's give him some time to settle – he has shown some exciting attributes in his cameos so far.

Gavin Johnson
179 Posted 02/09/2019 at 02:05:37
As for the No 9 conundrum, I think we missed an opportunity to sign Wolves' Raul Jimenez. I didn't rate him when he was at Benfica. He wasn't even a regular starter playing in an inferior league. His goal scoring record was acceptable but unspectacular, but now I'd be hard-pressed to think of any target men who are better. I'd have him over Giroud.
Nitesh Kanchan
180 Posted 02/09/2019 at 05:42:35
This is why I wanted Kean to start against Villa rather than solid Wolves team.

I read this on ToffeeTV comments: "Kean and Iwobi providing so much creativity for the team, there were times on the right wing where Richarlison wouldn't run with the ball whereas Moise Kean took on and beat the defender."

He always tries to get past his defender when away from the box and make things happen, Calvert-Lewin, on the other hand, keeps the ball and passes the ball casually around. We need a more direct approach against teams sitting back.

Against Wolves it was going to be difficult to get chances in the box, let's judge him when he does because he will certainly against Sheffield and Bournemouth. Calvert-Lewin's game is more suited against top 6 but not against teams sitting back unless Silva starts with Kean and Calvert-Lewin, just like Wolves did today with Jimenez and Patrick. I hope to see the Woah soon.

Darren Hind
181 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:02:41

Now you and I both know what I promised. Please don't distort it as something you can use to shout down my opinion on everything.

I promised I would not post about young players coming through taking more stick than big signings down the years. Not because I don't believe it, many life-long supporters (too many for it not to have credence) have whole-heartedly agreed. I made that promise (one I intend to keep) because you, as editor of this site, were getting more and more agitated by it.

My response to the unnecessary dig you made against Calvert- Lewin and those who have supported him at the end of your post @41 was legitimate. This is a day to celebrate and you were looking to provoke... what you embarrassingly call "vindication".

You say there has been no hysteria when calling for Calvert-Lewin to be dropped. I can only assume you inhabit a different Evertonia to me. I see it every day. in pubs, on phone-ins and at the match. I also see it on websites such as this. We have £350m worth of players and the guy who cost next to nothing is talked about more than any of them. Barely a day goes by without several people saying he isn't good enough and should never play.

Whether Calvert-Lewin is good enough or not has become almost secondary. Look no further than this thread. People like your good self making ridiculous assumptions that we have cured all our attacking problems by dropping him.

You are right in saying I loathe stats and your claims offer a perfect illustration as to why. Yes, the stats will demonstrate we scored seven in two games when he DCL was dropped. However, there are facts behind those stats.

Fact one: We scored only five in open play in those two games;

Fact two: Although Calvert-Lewin only played about a quarter of an hour of each game, we scored more goals when he was on the pitch than we did in all the time when he wasn't.

I'm not suggesting DCL was solely responsible for turning these draws into wins, but I AM suggesting that any reasonable person taking those two facts into consideration, will lend very little credence to your claim. Or your stats.

There are 6-7 players who have dramatically lifted their game in the past week. That will almost certainly be the reason for improved performances and results. Not the inclusion or omission of one man. The vindication you speak about may exist, but it will only exist in the heads of people who so desperately want to make it so.

Arild Andersen
182 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:14:09
Okay, perhaps all wasn't rosey, but I walked around with a big goofy smile all Sunday afternoon. I can hardly remember the last time that happened. What difference a couple of goals make.
Alan J Thompson
183 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:38:29
Jay (#169);

Given that cyclone, typhoon, the name of which I've forgotten, do you think the game in Miami will go ahead or be moved and would that affect the schedule of the second game in LA?

Tony Hill
184 Posted 02/09/2019 at 07:58:53
We will need both Kean and Calvert-Lewin this season. We will also benefit from having kept Tosun. Let's encourage them all.
Eddie Dunn
185 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:03:23
A super win against a good side that will make a few people sit up and take us seriously.

I would like to mention the industry of Richarlison, who was a constant threat but also did some solid tracking back, put in some good tackles and, on several occasions, he was the man heading clear in our box when Wolves turned the screw.

Obviously Delph caught the eye with his clever play and only tailed-off near the end as he tired. I thought he would be an important player for us and he is proving to be so.

Finally, on the subject of Moise Kean, it seemed that we were looking to play to him the same sort of balls as we normally play to Calvert-Lewin. He struggled, but on Wednesday when he received the ball from deeper positions and ran at defenders, he looked a better proposition. Obviously Wolves have better defenders than Lincoln, but he hasn't the height or heading prowess of Domenic. I think he will have better games and prove a good signing. Nonetheless, this shows that Calvert-Lewin has lots to offer.

I was surprised at the bold selection from Silva, but in fairness to him, he does seem to run a meritocracy and rewarded those that showed up well in midweek.

Paul Hewitt
186 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:06:02
I really do find some of the comments about Moise Kean absolutely ridiculous. It begger's belief. He's 19 in a new league and country. Give the lad a chances FFS.
Trevor Peers
187 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:07:18
Arlid @182,

I think we've all been given a boost by our performance against Wolves it's a great feeling. All credit to Silva he has devised a way to change our approach to the game in the last two matches. We've come out of safety mode.

That's a sign of a good manager, now we look like scoring and are full of confidence, it's partly down to the inclusion of one man here and one man there, but more than that a change of philosophy, now we're much more exciting to watch, fortune has favoured the brave.

Martin Berry
188 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:25:23
I will just chip in with the Calvert-Lewin - Moise business: I think we are dam lucky to have two very exciting and very "young" players on our books who at the end of the season will be envied by many other clubs.

Be patient — it's a virtue!

Kim Vivian
189 Posted 02/09/2019 at 08:47:21
186. Paul Hewitt - absolutely. Enough said.
Stan Schofield
190 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:16:53
Darren@181: I think you have a point about using statistics in the way they've been used to look at Calvert-Lewin and the last two games. Statistics are dangerous when not taken into 'context'. in this case, the 'context' is the way the team overall is set up, which affects how it gels as a unit.

For example, if the same team had been played against Wolves with the exception of Calvert-Lewin instead of Kean, with Calvert-Lewinbeing deployed in the same way that Kean was deployed, it would be interesting to consider the possible effects. We obviously don't know what would have happened, because it's hypothetical, but at least we can ponder possibilities.

Given the way Iwobi and Richarlison were used, if Calvert-Lewin had been used in the same way that Kean was used, it would be difficult to imagine a significantly different effect. In this respect, it seems that Kean was being used as a target man, rather than maximising his ability to take a ball from deeper positions, and he seemed to struggle in that role, albeit having promising touches and a hand in a goal.

If Calvert-Lewin had been there instead of Kean, he might similarly have struggled, albeit with an arguable better capacity to hold up the ball, because we know he's good at that. He might have handled the role better than Kean. But we don't really know.

In other words, Calvert-Lewin and Kean have different qualities. The effect of those qualities depends on how each player is used. The effect of each player depends on the set-up.

I think that too often there's an over-focus on individual players like Calvert-Lewin and Kean. We need to consider the overall set up. A team is a collection of players where the whole is not simply the sum of the parts. It's a system with many and complex interactions that make it unpredictable in such a way that we simply cannot easily evaluate an individual player's contribution in isolation. It's that fact that renders statistics dangerous, particularly when the statistics are based on only a few games.

Bryan Houghton
192 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:47:29
Re Calvert-Lewin and Moise Kean discussion, both are too young to have the all-round game, with both having parts of their game that need developing. Personally I think they can learn so much off each other. The competition for games, and their own drive to better themselves will massively improve their all round game. They will watch and learn off each other.

Kean, with some of Calvert-Lewin's hold up play, physicality and work ethic – and Calvert-Lewin, with some of Kean's directness and eye for goal, and movement.

It is going to be exciting to watch their development. I believe that we will see two very much more accomplished and dangerous strikers by the end of the season.

James Marshall
193 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:59:31
To the people talking about our 'wingers' in Iwobi and Richarlison – they aren't wingers, they're forwards. We also don't really play with a striker either, we play with a front 4 who rotate, albeit that Kean is asked to play more centrally. A striker, or the old Number 9 role as we used to know it is largely disappearing from the game.

Fluid forward players who can play either side or centrally is what we see now, so the thing about whether Richarlison is better right or left doesn't really matter since he's expected to (and will) play both sides during games.

As for Kean, I thought he was excellent given that he's 19, new to the country, barely speaks the language, and has bugger all experience in Serie A – let alone the Premier League. He has pace, power, awareness, a great touch, good movement and didn't look out of place, without lighting the place up. He was up against a proper rugged, and physical side in Wolves and he did really well.

I think he'll be brilliant once he gets a goal or two. Have some patience with the kid.

Stan Schofield
194 Posted 02/09/2019 at 10:59:37
Bryan @192:

That's a great point that Calvert-Lewin and Kean will learn from each other. Like you, I believe we're very lucky to have two young strikers of their qualities.

Regarding overall team performance, I believe the situation is well summed up by Colin Glasser (can't recall the post numbers). We perform much better as a team, and the players are better, when we play forward and faster. When we keep halting, playing sideways and backwards, it disrupts the flow and reduces the overall quality.

John McFarlane Snr
195 Posted 02/09/2019 at 12:18:47
Hi Derek [165], You say that you thought that the defending 'if it can be called that' for their second goal was absolutely shocking, don't you think that Wolves fans will be just as shocked at our first goal, or are Everton the only team not allowed to make mistakes?

In a post to you on another thread, I made the point that I consider that goals are the result of mistakes, [I stand by that claim]. I'm sure that on reflection, Bill on his first visit will be grateful for the excitement that the five goals generated.

Barry Williams
197 Posted 02/09/2019 at 12:40:07
Paul Hewitt - 186

you'll enjoy this!


The kid Keane is 19, Italian, making his debut . what do people expect?

And this from Souness beggars belief!

Anyway, we continue to go in the right direction! A very entertaining game too!

Gerry Ring
198 Posted 02/09/2019 at 13:23:35
I believe Kean will come good. He needs a few games to settle in. I thought Souness's comments regarding Kean were outrageous & probably slanderous. He was probably still reeling after the huns were beaten by Celtic at Ibrox.
Derek Knox
199 Posted 02/09/2019 at 14:01:52
Hi John @195, & 196,

No problem, although looking back I have either mistyped or predictive text/word correction has altered it: I meant the second goal of the match, that is Wolves' first, but it came out as the second goal for Wolves.

Yes, I agree, that goals are generally the result of mistakes, but that schoolboy type error from Seamus (our Captain no less) was bad, you have to admit.

As it happened luckily it wasn't the loss of three points; let's just hope that we make 'fewer mistakes' than the opposition in the future.

John McFarlane Snr
200 Posted 02/09/2019 at 14:21:42
Hi Derek [199],

Without wishing this to become an ongoing debate, I must add that any mistake that leads directly to a goal is a 'bad mistake', and to suggest that Seamus Coleman should be expected to be more vigilant in his defensive duties because he is 'Captain' is [in my opinion] an unfair expectation.

I trust that your hope that we make 'fewer mistakes' than our opponents, in future fixtures, becomes a reality.

Kim Vivian
201 Posted 02/09/2019 at 14:48:32
On the subject of Kean (and this may have been said – but short of reading back through 200 comments I wouldn't know). He absolutely made the first goal. Did he get an assist for that does anyone know?

There is some real crap being written. I mean who mentioned Niasse and Kean in the same sentence? Unbelievable!!

I have absolutely no doubt he will be a great signing for us. He's still young and desperate to make his mark with a goal. In my eyes, with the very little we have seen of him, he is already doing that, even without a goal.

Michael Kenrick
202 Posted 02/09/2019 at 15:28:25
Darren, you're entitled to your opinion, and I know nothing will change that, but I'm a little worried about your grasp of the facts you quote at me in vindication of your opinion:

Although Calvert-Lewin only played about a quarter of an hour of each game, we scored more goals when he was on the pitch than we did in all the time when he wasn't.

Are you absolutely sure about that?

Steve Barr
203 Posted 02/09/2019 at 15:34:54
This blanket coverage of football has led to a rise in "analysis" by what are at best mainly lazy, average pundits. Just listen to Souness's criticism of Moise Kean.

Lazy commentary based on nothing to be frank!

The same can be said about the analysis of just about every aspect of the game, particularly when it comes to players making mistakes.

Coleman and Digne may have combined to present Wolves with a simple tap in but let's praise the Wolves players for a great piece of football.

Virgil van Dijk was roundly criticised for at least two of the goals Barca scored against Liverpool in the first leg of the Champions League semi-final but he is undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the World.

It's become paralysis by analysis and this focus on mistakes is probably worth highlighting if the players concerned constantly mess up. I know that is not the case as far as Coleman and Digne are concerned.

Bill Gall
204 Posted 02/09/2019 at 15:37:33
Regarding the debate on Calvert-Lewin and Kean. As they are both different type of players, comparing one against the other is like comparing apples to oranges. Both are being used as a central striker, Calvert-Lewin can use his height and jumping ability whereas Kean needs the ball at his feet to use his speed.

My criticism of Calvert-Lewin has always been that he has reached the best level he is playing, and as it was not good enough; Richarlison should have continued in that position. As for Kean, he is inexperienced with the Premier League, and both himself and his teammates have to get used to each other, and also is at an age that he should keep improving.

Both players need encouragement as they are both giving their best for the club and, in my opinion, one of them will not get any better and the other one shows great potential for improvement.

Brian Harrison
205 Posted 02/09/2019 at 16:12:44
I think with the amount of money we have spent in the transfer market over the last couple of years, we should not be debating over Kean or Calvert-Lewin. For me, it's scandalous we don't have an experienced striker of true quality to lead the line and, let's face it, there were options to bring in a top striker whether it was Dzecko from Roma or Diego Costa from Athletico Madrid.

To expect a young lad of 19 with hardly a full season of games behind him, to come to a different country and play in the hardest position on the field, and expect him to hit the ground running was madness. No doubt the lad looks extremely promising but, for me, he is not ready to play week in and week out.

Also, like Kean, Calvert-Lewin would have benefited from having an experienced striker to learn from. Calvert-Lewin has got many attributes but I don't think he is a natural goalscorer. Also, I don't think that Marco Silva is going to change to a 4-4-2 system which may play to Calvert-Lewin's strength.

So I just hope at the end of the season we arent ruing not having bought a quality striker in the summer. As I believe with a quality striker we could certainly challenge for top 6 and maybe this season top 4. While Leicester can keep Vardy fit, they look like a team who we will be challenging for that top 6 position.

Paul Birmingham
206 Posted 02/09/2019 at 16:39:33
Good character to keep it together during a difficult game and charisma and belief to have the guile and vision to win the match with a superbly crafted winner. Plenty to improve and learn from, but there’s a good engine room being built in midfield.

More of the same, this season, every game please.

Forget Yozzer, he’s just a bigoted bitter alpha hotel.

Now to get some consistency and beat Bournemouth. For me the same team starts if they are fit and available.

Tony Abrahams
207 Posted 02/09/2019 at 19:37:52
You do know that Darren is going to say "in open play" Michael!

That last paragraph of Darren’s, about 6 or 7 players dramatically lifting their games is very true, and I wonder how much of this is down to Fabian Delph?

Michael Kenrick
208 Posted 02/09/2019 at 20:09:52
I thought about that, Tony, but it would require linking the two facts, which he did not do explicitly.

Darren's intro to 'the facts' refers to all 7 goals; only Fact one references 'open play' (So what? — it's goals that count. With Calvert-Lewin starting, we just weren't scoring enough. Simples!)

The scope or context of Fact Two is very clear: "we scored more goals when he was on the pitch"

I'm sure he will claim otherwise because he never ever admits to being wrong about anything, especially when people point it out to him, which makes his posts on here so endearing.

Tony Abrahams
209 Posted 02/09/2019 at 20:25:19
He’s like Tyson Fury, after he’s just been knocked-down by Wilder, Michael!

I like DCL, and agree with the people who say we are lucky to have him and Kean. I think they are different types, with one relishing hard work, and the other looking to always make little runs in-behind, but wether either of them is good enough to push us into the top 4 right now is very debatable, and the fact that Kean also hasn’t scored might just mean that Darren was 100% correct when he stated that 6 or 7 players have dramatically lifted their game, which might explain why we have scored 7 goals in our last two matches?

Darren Hind
210 Posted 02/09/2019 at 20:59:24

When I spoke of seven goals I was referring to the stats you put up.
I clearly stated that only five were scored from open play. You cant have a fact two without a fact one.

The forwards on the pitch had no bearing on where Sigurdsson hit his penalty or where Digne put his free-kick. I would assume that goes without saying. I'm happy to let others decide what point I was making.

Andrew Ellams
211 Posted 02/09/2019 at 21:17:18
Great performance yesterday, work still to be done defensively. Delph did a great job of doing what Gana did in midfield, the front three look a real handful and the bench is looking stronger.

One point from the game was how vile Wolves tactics were. Although the deliberate trips and short pulling that brought seven yellow cards was like watching Uruguay and, if that is their best answer to fast attacking teams, they won't be competition this season.

Brian Wilkinson
212 Posted 02/09/2019 at 21:48:15
One or two have picked up on Souness and Kean comments.

In the past weeks a lot has been said about Digne and being up there with the best and that includes Robertson.

It did not take Carragher long to have a little swipe at Digne.

Brian Wilkinson
213 Posted 02/09/2019 at 21:55:08
I am with Darren on this one, we look more threatening with our current set up with Kean and Iwobi in attack, instead of Lewin and Bernard.

Our overall attack is much quicker, Kean is making clever runs, as is Iwobi, which is giving Siggy and Richarlison more freedom to cut in.

I would certainly stick with that starting 11 for now, with a special mention to Delph, and Mina, let’s hope Delph keeps injury free.

Peter Warren
214 Posted 03/09/2019 at 09:10:18
Very pleasing to see Pickford pluck a couple of crosses from the air on Sunday. Excellent start to the season by him.
Derek Knox
215 Posted 03/09/2019 at 09:48:34
Peter, good point regarding Pickford, who has been excellent in the opening fixtures, and has been seldom mentioned in any of TW's Post Mortems, which is obviously good because it means he has been beyond criticism.
Justin Doone
216 Posted 03/09/2019 at 10:48:07
I love to watch a player I know little about and judge him harshly when playing for my team.

In Kean we potentially have a game changer. But he's young and I hope his development and improvement is far greater and quicker than Lukaku's was.

I say that because his style reminds me of him. Big, strong, quick, eye for goal. But poor first touch and passing.

If he's as good as Lukaku in a season or two that's no bad thing but I'd love him to be so much more.

He played well but no better or worse than Dominic. A slightly different type of player but I wish Dom would be more direct and have a pop from 25 yards.

Very early days but I'll say he'll be a HIT. Welcome to Everton.

Justin Doone
218 Posted 03/09/2019 at 11:33:30
Iwobi is a player we have all seen highlights of and in my opinion the real reason we were more of an attacking threat.

Exactly what we needed. Like Richarlison not the finished article but a player with so much ability and attacking threat. He also put in a real shift tracking back as did Ric.

Two have 2 big, fast, skilful, attacking wingers is a joy to watch. I'm a big fan of Bernard but he's not a real winger. He does a good job but I think his brain and skill would flourish as a central attacking midfielder.

I think Siggy could finally have real competition for his place. I'm a big admirer of his but strong competition brings out the best. Plus he's still our main goal threat.

Justin Doone
219 Posted 03/09/2019 at 12:02:47
Goals conceded were preventable but Digne simply got done by a stronger, faster player who did him and put in a decent cross.

The positive being Digne learnt on the job, when to get tight and when to wait for back up. This allowed him to continue to be an attacking threat resulting in an excellent cross for our 3rd.

Troare has to be one of the fastest but after initially struggling Digne did well.

As for Seamus, if in doubt put it out! Instead, he tried to take a touch and was made to look foolish. He should have known better but both full-backs played well otherwise.

Pickford made some important saves and centre backs played well.

I thought Gomes was his usual calm, effective self and made some great interceptions.

Delph had a good game apart from a few needless reckless tackles in the 2nd half but I put that down to tiredness. The only concern with him is fitness. Another ex-Villa midfielder who can control games but those reckless tackles could easily have led to self-harm.

Many positives but a few doubts defensively remain.

Graham Lloyd
220 Posted 03/09/2019 at 12:30:36
Over the season we will need Dom, Kean and Tosun (IMO) so let's get behind whichever one of them is on the pitch. For what it's worth and as others have pointed out, Kean looks more threatening facing goal than with his back to it. That said, he's 19 and starting in the most physical and intense league in the world. Give him time.

As a side note though, how good was Delph? I don't ever recall rating him at all previously either at Villa or City! But hey, what do I know right!! If kept fit, he could be an absolute steal and just what we need on the pitch.

Tom Bowers
222 Posted 03/09/2019 at 13:00:55
It's for sure a strong squad in depth is the key to success and It would appear that Silva has created one. Sure DCL, Cenk, Kean and Walcott will contribute when it matters.

The only question mark is how easy it was for Wolves, Villa and Lincoln to score 2 goals each against the Blues. Okay they came back and won 2 of those games but the defensive side of things needs to be stepped up very soon to face the ''big boys''.

Frank Crewe
223 Posted 03/09/2019 at 13:24:45
I wonder what would happen if we put Iwobi or Richarlison up front and Kean out wide? I know we've tried Richarlison up front before and it was only partially successful. But we have better wide players now so would it be worth trying it again?
Jamie Crowley
224 Posted 03/09/2019 at 14:12:47
Derek and Jay -

I’ve been busy battening down the hatches for Dorian to even realize there’s an international game in Miami with two Blues in it!

Alas, Dorian is heading further east, thank God.

Last time I went to Miami for soccer was to see Everton play in that preseason tournament.

Ain’t going this weekend though, boys! Cheers.

Jay Wood

225 Posted 03/09/2019 at 14:24:00
Jamie, I've been thinking of you (and the whole eastern seaboard) watching the course of Dorian after battering the Bahamas.

What's the latest from your perspective? It seems to have weakened (but only a tad) whilst remaining over the Bahamas, with the likelihood of swinging north, keeping out to sea rather than making landfall in the states.

I imagine even if it doesn't hit the coast you'll still experience some pretty extreme and turbulent weather. Just hope you're safe.

As for the footy, the Brazilian news has made no reference as to whether they still intend to go ahead with the game. Nike, the national team's primary sponsor, will most certainly want it to go ahead if at all possible.

Roman Sidey
226 Posted 04/09/2019 at 11:48:06
The logic of some on here is amazing.

"Calvert-Lewin cost barely anything so shouldn't be criticised so harshly."

Yep. At the end of the season, when our 23-year old-striker has scored 5 goals, there should be an asterisk on the golden boot list that says "but he only cost £1M."

Bill Gall
227 Posted 04/09/2019 at 15:20:19
On a different theme, who believes Delph is the future captain of Everton on the pitch?
Dave Abrahams
228 Posted 05/09/2019 at 15:52:34
Yes, a bit late, just got in from being on holiday, didn't know the score until half an hour ago, seen the goals. lt looked a great game, sorry I missed it, I've read some of the posts, us Bluenoses love arguments or debates don't we, Calvert-Lewin... love him.

Moise Kean, just know I'm gonna love him, two together or a bit of a game each. Everton are on a winner with these two.

Very happy with the result and the performance looked very good as well.

Jeff Armstrong
229 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:29:18
Bloody hell Dave, didn’t realise the moon was open for holidays yet!!😀
Dave Abrahams
230 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:35:06
Jeff (229), yes I know what you mean, but I didn't want to know the score in case it was the wrong one. Anyway, I was over the moon when I found out the score!!!

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