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Everton have 'green light' to appoint Koeman

De Telegraaf in the Netherlands reported late last night that a €5m compensation deal was result of tough negotiations between the Toffees' major shareholder Farhad Moshiri and the Saints, represented by CEO Ralph Kruger and director of development, Les Reed, but Everton can now finalise deal after agreeing terms with Koeman.
An agreement in principal was reached with his agent Rob Jansen yesterday but reports in England now claim that a salary package has been agreed and the appointment can now be wrapped up fairly quickly.
Jansen held productive talks with Moshiri and Chairman Bill Kenwright on Koeman's behalf but Everton weren't granted permission to speak directly with the former Dutch playing legend until compensation was agreed. Kruger and Reed were thought to be confident that they could persuade Koeman to stay at St Mary's Stadium, at least to see out the final year of his contract, but the lure of a significantly increased salary, a reported £100m transfer war chest and the promise in Moshiri's ambitious plans appear to have proved decisive. “We have reached an agreement with Everton. Now it is up to the clubs,” Jansen is quoted as saying by Voetbal International and the indications from the British media is that an announcement confirming the deal could come either on Sunday or Monday.
Koeman made his name as a world class defender who starred for all three of the Netherlands' big clubs — Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord — at Barcelona under Johan Cruyff and on the international stage for his country with whom he won the European Championships in 1988.
As manager, he has managed six teams in Holland and also had stints in Portugal and Spain before continuing the renaissance of Southampton begun by Mauricio Pochettino, that despite seeing some of that club's best players sold over the past two summer windows.
He led the Saints to 7th place in his first season and then 6th place this term, falling just three points off the top four but securing Europa League qualification for the second year running.
Koeman would be joined at Goodison Park by his brother and assistant manager Erwin and, possibly, by first team coach Jan Kluitenberg as well, alongside both of whom he worked on the south coast.
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2 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:18:50
No mention of Sammy Lee there?
3 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:32:51
4 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:33:50
If this goes through though, with the resources available to Koeman next season, I'd expect us to be seriously competing for CL places, even without Lukaku and Stones. I doubt that Moshiri will have the patience of BK.
5 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:35:38
6 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:40:45
8 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:49:58
Excellent choice, in my opinion.
Bring on the transfer times, keep Stones and Big Ross. Bring in the keeper and a new striker. Bring on the youth.
Welcome aboard the new Ginger-one.
9 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:55:06
It's not over until "The Grand Old Lady Sings" !
10 Posted 04/06/2016 at 02:03:59
So the fact its Koeman is to a certain extent is irrelevant, its more important is the change in approach, the decison to target one guy, despite the frenzied rumours generated everywhere, when in truth we knew little to nothing
All this done by a new majority shareholder who has to date said nothing except for a few opening platitudes
I do hope he gets to annouce the whole thing, just to symbolize the change in professionalism at the club, and of course the changing of the guard
Mr Moshiri you appear to be on the right track!
11 Posted 04/06/2016 at 02:16:32
Welcome Mr. Koeman! Way too much chatter for this not to cross the line (as I cross my fingers).
Everton under The Mosh is going to see very bright days ahead.
12 Posted 04/06/2016 at 02:22:50
I hope Stones stays only to see him pull Sturridge down clean through al a Koeman c.'94, then we know hes been coached! UTFT!
13 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:18:05
CAN ALL OF US PLEASE JUST HAVE A BREAK FROM THE NEGATIVE STUFF whether justified or not and just enjoy the moment with all of us knowing it absolutely has to be a better time for each and every one of us?
14 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:26:52
15 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:43:07
16 Posted 04/06/2016 at 04:49:47
This guy is exactly what we need and with the right technical director taking over Bill's role in negotiations it will be ok.
The thing is for the glass half empty guys imagine being in the room. Southampton finished in Europe second year running got a new contract on the table and he sits down with moshiri who tells him his 3-5 year plan. Koeman big U turn and no it's not just the ٤m contract it's the vision.. Think about that for a second.
New ground in 3 years hundreds of millions in the squad it must be exciting what moshiri told Koeman and I for one have a semi thinking about it. COYB
17 Posted 04/06/2016 at 05:28:35
18 Posted 04/06/2016 at 05:40:22
19 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:01:33
But I still maintain that we must hear someone from the club say our goal is to win the league, as our great former keeper said. That will tell us all we need to know. Obviously not that we will win the league next year and every year. But are we operating as though that is our goal. That's what we need.
20 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:09:25
Mr Moshiri can not afford to waste any of his transfer budget on poor signings and his experience with RM could have been affected by the purchase of Niasse.
21 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:12:54
22 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:21:30
23 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:31:50
In the words of the late great Brian Moore - "he's going to flick one, HE'S GONNA FLICK ONE!" Who could forget that game? .
24 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:18:35
Usmanov through Moshiri instructs Everton to pay over-inflated price to Lokomotiv Moscow to filter funds into the struggling club.
Welcome Niasse..!!
25 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:24:16
Do spare a thought for Southampton fans, though. They lost their previous manager after only a season and a half. Now they may lose his successor after only two. If the roles were reversed this site would be in uproar.
26 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:31:20
The sleeping giant is waking up!
Well played Mr Moshiri. So far you have done a lot for long sufferring supporters, you have given us some hope and rejuvenated the fanbase after years of crap.
27 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:34:21
So Koeman, Pellegrini and Moyes top that list (although we don't know if Pellegrini has that Latino temperament). Frank de Boer is an unknown factor and this is what've gone with before. Maybe Moshiri feels the job is too big for him. HOWEVER, if we land Koeman, don't be surprised if de Boer takes over at Southampton.
It seems like Southampton and de Boer could be a good match. Then Pellegrini will retire and Moyes will probably be a BBC/Sky pundit until a decent job becomes available.
28 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:44:01
Koeman was my second choice behind Mourinho so I will be delighted when we get him. He has the credibility of being a world class player, performed miracles at the Saints by building a team from scratch, knows how to set teams up to defend as well as attack, speaks perfect English and is obviously driven too. It will be a brilliant appointment as far as I'm concerned.
Nothing is ever guaranteed but this time at least we have stacked the odds in our favour rather than just taking a punt with a guy who'd just relegated his last club.
29 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:45:26
30 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:52:41
However I am made up with this. Its great news.
The quality of candidates we have been linked with this time are streets ahead of the last time.
It's been a long painful road at times but good times are ahead.
32 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:58:26
We are a bigger club, I agree, however before Mr Moshiri came along, we were nowhere near as stable as Southampton who for me are an example of how to run a club so I could see that, pre Mr Moshiri why he would say Na your okay, mate.
This era for the first time in years excites me, just the determination to get the Number 1 target is impressive. Koeman is an excellent fit, so I'm looking forward to next season.
I hate bringing up the Reds but I am looking forward to playing them on a level playing field as well as all the other Sky darlings.
33 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:01:31
34 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:11:14
35 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:16:16
RIP Champ.
36 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:17:11
But I wonder how 'hard' those negotiations would have been really. The Saints no doubt would be trying hard to keep their manager. But would Moshiri have had to sell them his vision also do you think or would he just have waved his chequebook?
All this taking for granted this is now definitely happening... ☺
37 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:19:19
Seriously, I have a good imagination but no real experience of hard-nosed business dealings at this level, or anywhere near it. However, whilst I have been a big cynical critic of BK, I cannot help feeling a sense of gratitude and respect for his transition of sale and power. He seems to have achieved all he has been promising for the last 3 years and kudos for that. Even the Roberto appointment for the first year was looking good and no-one at the end of the day has a crystal ball and can foresee everything.
COYB
38 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:29:20
This shows we now have an owner who won't take second best and is driven for success
Roll on the stadium development
Good times ahead for us toffee fans
39 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:30:47
40 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:34:08
Southampton fans I feel for you if in all probability you will lose your manager.
Stop the negative thoughts! Short memories! Think back to the Walter Smith days! Happy now, thought so!!
RIP Mr Ali!
41 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:43:14
42 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:52:47
43 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:53:33
Taking into account all of the players that are expected to leave the club this summer, Ronald Koeman is the perfect choice for the Everton job.
He proved at Southampton that he can quickly rebuild a team and get them to gel immediately.
Right now, he is exactly what we need.
44 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:07:26
I also love the way Moshiri has seemingly transformed the club in his brief tenure.
He has made us look more professional already, with his handling of Martinez, kick starting the stadium issue again, this pursuit of our new manager and not forgetting his money!
Without getting too carried away (we haven't actually signed a manager yet, or any players of note) things are definitely looking rosy for us, so let's embrace this new weird feeling of being a well run big club!
45 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:10:21
1) Prem experience- good player- tactically astute- experience at top clubs- has rebuilt teams before- disciplinarian, who won't let players rule the roost like what has seemingly happen under Roberto.
If we compare that to others then it is sensible. Emery grabbed me, I will be honest, but he has no experience of England ( not sure I see this as a major issue, but there) English not great also. Risky.
De Boer- Don't get what people assume is better about De Boer. Only been at Ajax and has no expeience of a budget. Rewind back pre Moshiri and I think he would have been the sensible choice. I think Moshiri has been put off though after MArtinez and Niasse. If he is going to give a budget, history of spending well is clearly high up his list. It explains why they have spoken to Moyes.
Overall, I am content. I believe that Koeman will take us forward. How far, nobody knows.
46 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:12:39
47 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:13:01
48 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:15:02
Wake up man!
49 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:15:13
This is what pisses me off about forums, peoples opinion/guesses repeated enough get to be treated as fact over time.
50 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:28:46
Today my thoughts are on one of the greatest sportsman of all time Mohamed Ali, thanks for all your performances in and out of the ring, UNFORGETTABLE,I loved you nearly as much as I loved my team EVERTON. Goodnight God bless Mohamed.
51 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:33:44
52 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:36:16
53 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:37:55
Too late for Lukaku and Stones but I am looking forward to a summer on TW when the transfer targets start to come through as "rumours" - and the arguments start again!
Bring it on!
54 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:39:01
55 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:39:48
Look, Southampton fans have had the nerve to criticise our side our ground and our fans since this story broke so sod them. Were a far, far bigger and better club than the likes of Southampton, Swansea, Stoke, West Brom etc and yet these little tin-pot outfits have the audacity to laugh at us.
I'm nearly 57 and have only ever watched us in the top flight. I wonder how many of the clubs' fans I've mentioned above can say that? I'd guess none. Fuck Southampton and their part time support. I hope we trample all over the bastards on our way up. And that goes for the other 3 as well.
56 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:42:54
RIP Muhammed Ali.
57 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:43:09
In stark contrast, this thread is a cocaine-fuelled high of positivity compared to the usual main forum fare on ToffeeWeb, with the obvious exception of Raymond (49). If this really pisses you off, Raymond, 1) Why do you read them, and 2) Why post on them.
In defence of Paul (44), would you not agree that since Mr Moshiri has came in, our level of professionalism and actions off the pitch have soared to previously unknown heights?
Chris (16). we have already had 3 semi's this year - there is no need for you to get another. Haven't had my breakfast yet mate!!
58 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:47:31
The clip here with Evertonian Freddie Starr on the Parkinson Show is fantastic:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqr_FtlJEcg
Another legend of my youth moves on.
59 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:48:14
60 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:49:24
First signing Forster?
61 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:57:36
It's maybe time for Lyndon and Michael to start a ToffeeWeb members erectile dysfunction thread.
Or just a thread about ToffeeWeb members' members!
I bet Koeman stiffens up our back four at least.
63 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:01:21
But don't ask me about lottery numbers tho'!
64 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:02:39
65 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:06:12
The next few years could be very exciting for Everton and Evertonians and whether Koeman or some other manager helps us to lift silverware is in the lap of the gods, but for the first time in a very long time the chips are stacked in our favour, we all hope that the chance to at least restore some of our former glory is grasped with both hands.
It won't be easy as many clubs share the same ambitions, but at least now, with Moshiri on board, we should be in position to give it a right good go that's all most of us have hoped to see, an Everton FC that strives to achieve tangible progress.
66 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:06:32
Funny though.
67 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:11:54
So let's hope Ron stays away from the fantasy football transfers, uses the good players already in the club, and he fills in the blanks with footballers not bench-warmers.
68 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:18:34
69 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:18:56
It's all media talk at the moment. In what way has our level of professionalism soared to new heights as you put it?
The sacking of Martinez was inevitable because the supporters had turned against him, there had to be agreement between all the owners about the sacking for it to happen.
Let's wait till we see what happens in the manager pursuit and if there is any improvement in our transfer dealings before we are handing out plaudits.
I will be as happy as anyone if Mr Moshiri does indeed turn out to be our saviour but nothing much has happened yet.
70 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:23:53
I like the fact that he comes with no over riding philosophy only a winning philosophy. I know being a great player doesn't mean you will become a great manager, but for me this guy has all the right credentials to be a success.
I know some have questioned whether there is a seed change happening but what is for me beyond question is it is Moshiri's money to invest big money and the possibility of a new ground inside 3 years if the Mayor is to be believed. I honestly don't think Kenwright could have convinced Koeman to leave Southampton.
I posted a few weeks back that a very good source had told me that Koeman was the man they wanted, he also told me that Moshiri speaks very positively about what he wants to achieve. We might at last have a chairman with Sir John Moores drive.
71 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:27:33
72 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:30:46
Since Mr Moshiri came in, we have reduced season ticket prices, at least told a time-scale for a new stadium, sacked a manager, and appear well on the way to appointing another who is a level above our usual suspects Moyes, Dyche, Howes, Pulis and Sparky. All under the radar until a Dutch journalist spilled the beans, not Everton.
The times they-are-a-changing!
73 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:31:32
Forsooth,
Theatrical Bill, (Shakespeare that is, not BlueRinse) foretold a time when BrownShoes' Comedy Of Errors would end, and no more wouldst our woes be compoundeth by temporarily exciting fools.
As he said:
"This life, which had been the tomb of his virtue and of his honour, is but a walking shadow; a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the pitch, and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
Forgiveth not shall he be, this Belgian malcontent, despite the goal-tally that helped us not be dragged too close to Bobby's event horizon around the Championship table.
All that is past may indeed be prologue, but if thou knowest thy history..
74 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:35:31
75 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:42:58
What next, The Wurzels "I was Farmer Bill's Koeman" replacing Z-Cars?
76 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:45:24
LOL.
77 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:50:45
One thing that has irritated the hell out of me the last couple of weeks has been the over the top media cackling about the two Manc clubs now being helmed by the two 'greatest' big name managers in THE WORLD and how it must be such an intimidating prospect for anybody looking to compete. As though the very sight of them sitting on the bench is enough to send fear cascading through an opposition coaches veins. Well, one thing is for sure, Koeman won't face either man in fan boy awe. Both Guardiola and Mourinho got their grounding in the game at Barca during a time when Koeman was a big influence and revered at the club. He helped school a young Guardiola on what it took to be a winner and, in his role as assistant manager, was a close subject of study for the always watching Mourinho's ambitious magpie eye. He's a guy they looked up to and admired, not the other way around.Â
After years of Moyes fawning over Ferguson and Martinez gushing over Guardiola, it's my hope that having a manager who is overly reverential to no other might go some way to helping the club dust off the inferiority complex that has been allowed to settle over it for so long.Â
Incidentally, to those around the catalan club at the time, Koeman was known as 'Floquet de Neu', after the famous albino (vanilla) gorilla kept at Barcelona Zoo:
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No real reason for sharing that, other than I like the picture and I'm already planning on spamming Klopp with it prior to next seasons derby....to such a merciless extent that he begins seeing that beastly visage in his nightmares and wakes up each morning sweat sodden and screaming "Get your filthy paws off me you damn, dirty ape".
78 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:58:35
79 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:09:13
"But if thou knowest thy history..."
That's just gunna tickle my ribs all weekend, thank you.
80 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:10:13
I do hope Ronnie appreciates long-term planning isn't an option these days footie jacked that old pony in years ago.
"Beware the Ides of March"... Well, October / November actually.
81 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:21:22
82 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:24:54
He was a brilliant player, class, and he's gone into management and yeah, had his ups and downs but he has won things throughout his career has a player and manager so he has that mentality and he is ambitious and it could turn out to be a very good appointment. He's a name, got a big reputation, Premier League experience and his style and brand of football suits our league so hopefully during in his time with us we will have success!
I just hope we can get him tied down soon so he can get moved in at Finch Farm, get his feet under table and hit the ground running!
83 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:25:38
DEAL DONE: #Everton have put pen to paper with former #Southampton boss Ronald #Koeman to become their new manager.
Just leave that here.
84 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:33:56
I'm really pleased should Koeman become our next manager. I had a horrible sinking feeling when Martinez was appointed, whereas now it feels like we are finally starting to see the blue peeking out of the grey skies.
Exciting times ahead and with a decent transfer kitty it finally feels like we will be able to compete at the top table on a regular basis once again.
85 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:34:12
The first job is surely getting rid of the deadwood (Gibson, Osman, Pienaar, Oviedo, Kone, Hibbert, Niasse, McGeady) stopping the youngsters being in first team squad. Then onto transfers and our need for a keeper, central defender, box-to-box midfielder and two strikers for starters.
At least now we can have a transfer window we can look forward to and actually spend more than we get in. If he can bring any players with him would have Forster, Van Dijk and Mane.
86 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:39:18
87 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:41:54
88 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:44:46
89 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:45:44
John Connolly
90 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:50:56
91 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:56:49
However, assuming this is true. we have most certainly appointed the best qualified manager in our entire history which is cause for celebration. He has much still to prove and achieve but is better placed than most to do so.
Moshiri has been silent which is generally the sign of a good businessman and reminds me of Sir John who was always stealthy in his dealings which made him and Catterick so deadly in the transfer market. A return to those days of quiet steely professionalism would be welcome and I suspect we will get no pronouncements on a new stadium until the deal is done. Only the council leader has said anything about this to date and Moshiri appears to be a doer rather than a sayer which suits me fine.
For all those who have abused Kenwright, maybe it will turn out that he waited for the right man and then got him as he promised he would all those years ago.
92 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:58:37
93 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:02:24
Dave Thomas?
Zindene Kilbane lol, choked on my butty.
94 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:03:34
95 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:05:21
96 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:09:04
97 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:27:38
Other links say Martinez, de Boer and Howe are the early front runners to replace him at Southampton.
98 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:29:16
Now I feel sorry for them.
99 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:30:41
2016 is turning into a Grim Reaper of a year for truly gifted people.
100 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:31:06
Fraser Forster could follow Ronald Koeman and sign for Everton
101 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:32:06
103 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:34:16
104 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:36:23
106 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:44:46
As a player, he won the Dutch league 3 times; he won La Liga with Barcelona 4 times in 4 years; he got over 100 caps for Holland, at a time when they were a force in world football. He scored the winning goal in a European Cup Final; and he won the 'Euros' with Holland.
He has won the Dutch league 3 times as a manager. He won the Copa Del Rey, managing Valencia. He has recent, credible, and mainly successful, experience in the Premier League.
And how about this for a stat: At PSV, in 3 years, he played 130 matches, and scored 63 goals... Yes, that's a goal every other game, and he was a central defender!! And remember, the Dutch league then had some of the best players in the world.
107 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:50:42
Don't forget RK is still a relatively young manager, will still be learning, those who point out his 'failures' to date, (Mourinho was ace at Chelsea last season wasn't he!)
The Redshite's next anthem will be Whitesnake's 'Standing In The Shadow Of The Blues'
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_P9RMwGJ4
Roll on August, we'll have sold Niasse in a Lukaku wig to Chelsea for a 'cut price' 28 mill. Romlak to PSG for £65m. Stones will stay and be a proper defender. Ramon Feetwarped Mori to Barca for £25m. Incoming will be Fraser Forster, and Van Dijk, Alvarato Morata, Gameiro, and a driving midfield force.
Oh happy days.
108 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:52:05
I don't actually agree that we need a winger of the 'correct' foot on both sides. It'd be nice to have the option but a Lennon/Deulofeu type on one side and a Pienaar/Joe Cole type on the other with a quality overlapping left footed full back (of which we have three) can be extremely effective.
109 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:00:23
Going forward is much easier to coach than the art of defending, and god knows that was where our problems were all of last season. Nobody can deny that.
He's going to get loads of money to spend, and the Premier League is going to be ram-full of top managerial talent next season and we can't afford to get left behind.
Koeman is a good manager, without doubt, and should also be able to attract better players. I'm all for it. He was a class-act as a player, and knows what it takes to win games unlike his predecessor.
110 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:00:24
It's a great post, and is a must read for anyone who wants to know a bit more about Koeman, his tactics, and some of his recent challenges and achievements.
112 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:06:25
113 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:12:19
Make us winners again.
114 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:15:48
115 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:24:42
Welcome, Ronald. Do us proud.
116 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:55:58
117 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:01:09
118 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:24:28
"I for one have a semi thinking about it. COYB."
Ha ha. Steady on!
Raymond:
"Keith, it pisses me off because there is no proof/hard facts that I can see that Mr Moshiri has done anything yet."
No, just spent millions purchasing 49.9% of the club! Sacked Martinez, sorting out a new manager, etc. Some people just love to moan on here.
I wanted Emery, but maybe he didn't fancy it, but you couldn't blame him as at present it would be a step down.
Koeman seems fairly good. I'm not mega excited, but not pissed off. With the overall picture; Martinez gone, youth coming through, new owner, new manager, possible stadium, money for players. A month ago, I felt one of the lowest I have felt about Everton in a long long time, now I feel enthusiastic... excited! Moshiri could be great for our club (one thing Bill did well) and I'm happy he's on board.
People say 'Koeman's only finished 6rh in the Premier League, steady Eddie.' I'm not totally convinced by him, but he manages 'Southampton', what do you expect him to do, top 4, win the league? They're a small club, 6th is mega for them. Koeman has them playing good football and has signed good players, with more... maybe a trophy?
Plus we need to remember Moshiri won't have just hired him 'cause he did okay/well with Southampton, maybe he came across incredibly well in the interview process with vision, ideas, etc.
Anyhow, let's get behind him, exciting times ahead! COYB.
As for Southampton, I sort of feel sorry for them, but on the other hand think they're lucky to have had the last two managers they've had and the players they've had, they're only Southampton!
119 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:27:40
Express Sport understands Koeman will be given the biggest budget in Everton's history this summer following the arrival of major shareholder Farhad Moshiri.
And the ability to compete for top-level players in the market has apparently convinced Koeman to leave St Mary's for Merseyside. Hope he brings some class signings with him, and not payers that are no better than what we have here.
120 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:30:37
I would love Forster as his first signing.
121 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:30:46
It seems we have some very serious businessmen running our club. Proof will be in the pudding of course... but nevertheless exciting times ahead.
122 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:31:14
Sign him up then ship out Lukaku and Stones for silly money and bring in the likes of Mane and Van Djik, (sorry but never really understood the fuss about a defender who's not that good at defending, who also put in a transfer request).
Next season already looking up.
123 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:33:33
And there can be no way that he would take the job on without being satisfied that he would get the backing he needs.
I'm optimistic.
124 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:38:31
Maybe we are seeing evolution not revolution and each year will bring a step forward in management, scouting and players. The signs so far are that this management recruitment has been handled professionally and that augers well for the future.
The area we need revolution is the ground as that is the game changer.
125 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:41:33
126 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:55:38
127 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:56:16
That was the problem under Martinez ... we only got as far as a semi.
Seriously, this is an excellent choice. I wanted Mourinho, but this guy will be a success.
129 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:00:49
Never thought I'd ever be happy to see him come as our leader.
130 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:07:26
Apart from selling him, does anyone think Koeman could fix our Niasse problem?
131 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:11:11
132 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:13:11
133 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:13:33
"... I for one have a semi thinking about it. "
That was the problem under Martinez ... we only got as far as a semi.
"
Laughed me head off ha ha! So under Koeman we may get to a rousing final win?
134 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:13:58
We'll be fighting it out with Chelsea and West Ham behind Spurs, Utd, City and Arsenal. Decent attack And defence.
Leicester and Southampton, who knows.
135 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:15:57
Translated from Dutch:
RL - "So Ron, sell me your plans for the future. Convince me to stay man.
RK - "They don't involve you Romelu, you are being sold to the highest bidder"
RL - "You can't do that to me, I'm the greatest, my dad tells me so every day!!"
RK - "Too much talk Rom from you, your vater and your big mouth agent"
RL - "Please let me stay boss man, my dad will kill me as know one wants to pay da big bucks"
RK - "Bobby E, call security please. Mr Lukaku is leaving"
RL - "Noooooooooooooooo, I want to stay. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!!"
137 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:18:30
138 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:20:14
139 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:20:57
I haven't heard Liverpool fans talking about us recently so that tells me they see a change coming.
Personally I'm feeling excited, and that hasn't been a common feeling in my time supporting Everton.
140 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:21:09
146 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:37:47
150 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:42:54
153 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:49:55
154 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:50:46
Liverpool all the latest in transfer rumours and gossip!
157 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:55:45
158 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:56:09
I'm sure Koeman dropped one of his team for having the wrong attitude.
160 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:59:17
162 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:06:29
Who knows he may bring one or two decent Soton players with him.
166 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:22:37
The Dutchman has appeared as the clear favourite for the vacant Everton position this weekend after Everton pushed hard to secure his signature.
And it appears that they have done just that, with the Daily Mail reporting that the Dutchman has agreed terms with the club after discussions with the Toffees hierarchy Bill Kenwright and Farhad Moshiri this weekend.
168 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:30:56
169 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:33:51
171 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:35:34
172 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:36:38
174 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:40:41
May I be publicly gunged by Dave Benson Phillips if I am wrong.
176 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:43:27
177 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:49:36
There's gonna be some angry Saints fans today, that's for sure.
178 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:57:08
We are 10/1 on being in the top 4 that could shorten
180 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:04:19
I hope the new managers main focus will be on buying the best goalie we can afford as filling this position with a high quality player will be the biggest single improvement in next seasons points tally we can make.
181 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:20:07
182 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:21:57
184 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:46:24
185 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:47:46
186 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:50:38
188 Posted 04/06/2016 at 18:20:20
Ronald Koeman has agreed terms with Everton over his switch from Southampton, according to the manager's agent Rob Jansen.
He told Fox Sports in the Netherlands: "We have reached an agreement with Everton. Now, it's up to the clubs."
189 Posted 04/06/2016 at 18:53:06
Then Koeman had an okay second season and a good season but he could have had a cracking season with much better players. That does not prove Koeman is a great manager.
So why come here? Not sure... maybe a ٣M+ salary with a guaranteed ٣M+ pay off if he proves as good as Martinez. Compared to a ١M salary. Then we are also going to give him a 𧴜M+ transfer kitty and probably a 5-year contract. Would you jump ship?
Southampton must be laughing all the way to the bank... great manager, sorely missed, long term signing for us ....please give us ٦M. Then they will sign FDB and we will have paid FDB's salary for the next 3 years, thanks Everton. The same team that bought Niasse.
190 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:02:37
191 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:05:07
Rather than slag him before he even arrives can't you wait until after his first game in charge?
192 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:10:56
Beggers belief.
193 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:12:26
194 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:15:36
195 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:15:48
What bloody planet are you on. it seems to me that if we'd got Pep as manager, Conte as his assistant, Mourinho sorting out players and Klopp as coach you'd be looking for where we'de gone wrong. For Christ's sake let's give the man a chance. Moshiri wanted him from the start; he was told there was no chance; Southampton said he was staying for the last year of his contract; Koeman said he was happy to stay at Southampton.
Our one (slightly) minority shareholder spoke to him and now it seems he's coming to us! That makes me think we've now got a man in charge who knows exactly what he wants ans goes out to get it. I believe Koeman is an intelligent and principled man and I do not believe for a minute he would have left Saints unless he was totally convinced of Everton's aims and ambitions. Lets hope this goes through and I can't wait for next season
196 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:17:28
197 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:19:32
The Moshiri list was full of top young players from around the world. The BK list had the likes of Bernard Breslaw, Frankie Howard, Charles Haughtrey and Charlie Drake. BK took a long look at it and was heard to say, teary eyed, "What a manager!!".
198 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:19:32
199 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:21:26
I hope his Russian billionaire friend arrives too and we can do an Alex Ferguson, 'Knock those bastards off their perch!'
200 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:25:06
Ha sanyone out there ever seen a glass half full. For Heaven's sake let's be bloody positive
201 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:27:34
Thankyou
202 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:29:14
204 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:29:55
207 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:32:30
No pleasing some people ay?
208 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:33:30
209 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:34:01
210 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:35:23
We will have paid nothing - a very very rich individual might pay all that, but it won't cost us (me/you) a bean so..why worry about it?
It's weird (to me) when I see supporters sweating about money others may spend as though it's costing them.
Let's assume Moshiri (nb: the billionfuckingaire!) has started to make decisions and let's also assume the way he gets what he wants in business is to simply say yes (or no) to a price.
Well...that's it really, if he's happy to pay it, fine with me.
As for Koeman's managerial ability, all this analysis is quite frankly, bollocks.
"His win ratio with FC Pørno was only 37.2%" blah blah.
For every argument for/against Koeman/De Boer/Simeone etc etc, the following can't be disputed.
Last season, Mourinho, a serial winner, couldn't buy a win with a club that have billions.
Ranieri on the other hand, who was sacked as Greece manager after they lost at home the fucking Faroes, took relegation candidates Leicester to the PL title.
Does that tell you nothing?
It should - it should tell you that there are no guarantees and that no one really has a clue how a season will unfold.
If whoever comes in gels well with the squad (ie: they don't hate his guts after 2 weeks) sells a few, buys a few and gets them fit, that'll be a decent start for me.
After that, who knows (not those giving it 'this+this=that', that's for darn tootin').
Want certainties?
Tough - there are none.
Any new manager could be successful, could piss around in mid-table or could take us down.
(obviously if it was Moyes, we'd be more likely to be the pissing around in mid-table).
212 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:38:30
I didn't notice any great tactical nous from Koeman during that fixture, in fact they were brushed aside by a far superior blues side on the day. I was creaming my pants at the prospect of Emery rocking up at Goodison and if he ends up at St Mary's instead, I will have a canary because he is the real deal and would have set us on a road to sustained lasting success.
213 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:49:47
Emery could go to the Saints, get sacked and Southampton relegated. No-one knows, ask our new owner, the Premier League is a big business, and a bigger gamble.
214 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:50:16
I am very encouraged that Moshiri has acted so decisively and has refused to listen to the prats who said that Everton was a step sideways for Koeman and that we should know our place; that is the difference, and it promises a great deal.
215 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:51:24
By contrast, Terry Venables had little success in England, took Barcelona to a Spanish title and a Spanish cup win and a European Cup final which they lost on penalties in 1986.
216 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:04:13
Well, fuck me mystic, Trev, have you been on the old tarot cards again? Talking to Sav and Fletch? Or just abusing the weed? I wish these morons would keep their moronic opinions to themselves. Pisses me off.
217 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:05:10
So whatever happens it has to be a massive improvement from the last two seasons. At least we have a chance of real success this time round.
218 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:08:33
219 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:13:51
220 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:17:07
221 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:17:12
Damian (#118), I'm not pissed off with Moshiri, quite the opposite, I get pissed off with people posting things as if they're facts.
Take your "He sacked Martinez" who says he did? He would have to have the consent of the other owners to sack him.
All we can say is that he probably instigated his sacking. Martinez had to go; he had lost the supporters, his position was untenable at the end.
222 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:25:32
223 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:26:57
Too difficult for Trevor & co to work that out, of course.
224 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:33:11
Likewise, if he had a blinder of a first season and Arsenal etc did came calling I would expect again Moshiri will have his back covered. We shall see!
226 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:38:31
Or, walks in,the lads love him and we are Leicester. Or we are Everton and are mid table. Toss of a coin, that is it. However, I am full of hope.
Some Saints fans saying (honest to God, I don't blame them) that we are the new Pompey.
I like our new approach, I hope he is our new manager but, well, we've, likely, stolen their coach and I feel there's not much Corinthian about it.
227 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:39:14
228 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:40:27
I know the Saints are in Europe this season, but really, what would be the motivation? Can't see it happening.
229 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:45:24
230 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:47:14
231 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:00:29
Why would anybody on this post want to be negative? Koeman might take us to League 2 in 3 years, but it's probably unlikely, he might win us the League, but it's probably unlikely. What isn't unlikely but a fact is that he's one of the best managers in the Premier League and, since he's been there, hasn't put even a toe wrong, let alone a foot. Why don't we all just hope (and think) for the best and look forward to next season with really positive anticipation? We can at least have an off season without foreboding
232 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:01:13
If we do get Koeman every Evertonian should be delighted! As Eugene rightly says above nothing is absolutely guaranteed or can be take for granted but Koeman's appointment is possibly the absolute best we could have hoped for. Any doubters should check out his win ratios as a manager. They're up there with the very best.
Moshiri is undoubtably the best thing that could have happened to us and his joining the board likely to be Kenwright's lasting positive legacy in an otherwise quite uninspiring chairmanship.
Moshiri has handled the whole manager sacking/replacement situation extremely well. He has brought a professionalism to the appointment of a manager, which under BK, would never have been remotely on the agenda. Moreover he appears to have a determination to see that the club achieves the potential that's lain dormant for what seems like an eternity.
If Koeman's appointment comes off it can only lead us in to a new era of optimism and enjoyment the likes of which, for my money, I have not witnessed since the holy trinity graced our side. I accept this latter view is a purely personal perspective.
Let's all try to switch to a positivity to which we are now fully entitled to. I just want to see the press conference and then roll on next season.
Good luck to me and good luck to you!
233 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:06:24
Amen
234 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:13:35
235 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:14:59
I think this man is one real decisive character, says little but does much. Wrong? Yes, I might be but that's how I see him. I go back to his statement in the Programme after he had bought the shares. Not word for word but on the lines of "will give my all for Everton." "The stadium issue needs addressing but it will likely cost a fair bit more than the original one." "I know this club has a great history and I want to get to know more before I develop MY plans for the club."
He said some things but there were a couple of points where he was absolutely clear and the main one, in my view, was the point about MY plans for the club.
If Koeman comes, and it looks very likely. That is the first step (after sacking Roberto!) into taking us back into a top club.
There's been lots of talk on here about the various managers who could have come to the club; but in previous years those talks would have been nothing but pipe dreams.
I think now, that if Koeman becomes our manager, it will be purely because of Mr Moshiri selling him his vision. I feel certain that Koeman was determined to stay at Southampton until eventually going to try for a plum job with someone like Barcelona or Real Madrid.
He might well still do so, but first he will have to show how he can handle the expectations of a Big club.
He will have to produce the results or he will be moved on. He will have every chance to prove himself and I hope he does so. But, Like Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, and Liverpool. We will now be a results driven club with the manager knowing it, and if he doesn't deliver...
So whether he is the best candidate or not, I suppose is a matter of opinion. But the opinion of the feller that matters is Farhad Moshiri, and that'll do for me.
236 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:16:18
237 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:16:58
Koeman has done a great job at Southampton but I'd take Emery over him any day of the week. I think most people would.
238 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:20:41
Koeman (and anyone else for that matter) is a risk as the manager can't guarantee success with so many other variables to take into account. However, he IS a much better manager than both Martinez and Moyes so is the best manager we've had in at least 14 years. If you include the likes of Walker and Kendall Mk III then this is the best manager we've had since Joe Royle ie, FOR TWENTY YEARS!
It may or may not work but before it's even started, that bit of info should be enough to make EVERY toffee happy. So how about we all stop the grumpy moany shit and admit this is the most exciting time to be a blue nose in two decades. And I haven't even mentioned the billionaire who is our new largest shareholder!
Stick a smile on your face 'cos the future is certainly better than the recent past. We can look forward to this transfer window knowing we're not going to be signing players like Niasse, Kone or Denis fucking Straqualursi! We're also going to clear out A LOT of deadwood that should have been done ages ago.
Only thing that's not known is which position between 1 and 10 we will finish in the league next season my money is on top 6 and it's a pity the odds on us finishing top 4 are only 10-1.
ToffeeWeb is known for being miserable but the people moaning about Koeman being appointed should deregister and sign up with the Samaritans.
Get a grip!
239 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:21:32
The long term effects for the club are what people rightly "sweat" about.
240 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:24:28
The Dutchman has been in talks with the Toffees over the past few days after Everton made him their number one choice to replace Roberto Martinez as manager at Goodison Park.
241 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:28:09
Regarding Mr Moshiri I think he will prove to be a great director, in the real sense,for the good of Everton FC, he could even be a part of a great future partnership if Mr Usmanov gets fed up at Arsenal.
All-in-all the future looks much brighter for the club and most certainly for us fans. Already looking forward to next season with hopefully much better performances than the depressing ones that littered Goodison for the previous 18 months.
242 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:31:51
Koeman gets my 100% support as our new manager, but 100% of my praise must go to our new owner, Moshiri, and his team for what looks like a well thought-out, professional approach to this saga. If he has seen Koeman as his No 1 target for a while, and steadily pursued him while looking at other options and potentially taking Arsenal's heir-apparent from them then we are finally dealing with an owner on another level to what we've seen over the last decade or so.
....and that's not even taking into account the new stadium talk etc.
Whether Koeman ends up as a success or failure, Moshiri has done all us fans could hope for, and provided he continues to walk the walk, then I'm the most positive I've been about the club since the mid-eighties!
On a slightly different note I hope Lukaku attracts the silly money his father's mouth suggests he is worth, and we can clear out this mercenary soon. While I'd like to see Stones stay, especially when we have attracted a manager who can potentially undo the damage done to him by Martinez I'd take silly money for him too as his defensive wobbles scare the hell out of me, and I'm sure Koeman and his staff could find a replacement without too much effort at present, given their experience and scouting set up.
The future is bright! COYBs. NSNO at last!
243 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:34:46
Man City's old boss wants a stay in the UK and a big pay check no thanks all that money and still we beat them (just as we beat Southampton 3-0 under Koeman's management).
Koeman will bring a good defensive set up and seems to have an eye for the ball. What is worrying is that he is off ill for two or three weeks last season and his team had quite a dip in performance why?
I would like a manager who wants to be here because of the club, the fans and the players and the money is way down the list. FDB I think would sign for ١M (Ranieri's salary in 2016-17). He would also bring defensive qualities and attacking play. His 4-3-3 attack and 4-5-1 defensive combines Moyes best defensive play and the best European attacking play.
As for Moshiri, he is a clever man but did not make his money through football. he did not select or have anything to do with appointing Wenger. So this will be his first choice of manager. I don't know enough about the other managers not mentioned above but success over 6 years is not luck. Winning a cup is luck ask Martinez and Van Gaal.
244 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:38:40
Let Guardiola, Klopp and Jose jump, flap, gesticulate and whine while our man gets on with the job of restoring us to glory. I can't wait.
245 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:41:20
"It's some job isn't it? Get paid minimum ٣m a year then log on to this site once a day to find out what to do."
Laughed heartily at this one! Yeah, plenty of experts on here... at '?moaning' anyway :D
246 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:42:16
Very curious post on GOT forum from Saints fan. Say he had submit runs with terrible runs. There were times they were thinking his time was up and then he would go on a run. Apparently 2nd most points post Christmas after Leicester.
Biggest issue they had was he apparently did NOT promote the youth. There goes my thinking. But he did come out and say they were not very good which upset the brass over there. Maybe he was right after all the young talent had been picked off. I know I'll not be overly enamored if I don't see our best boys given a run.
The other main gripe was route 1 football.. sounds like the Dutch Moyes was spot on!
BUT he has also beaten every other team.. found ways and adapted the tactics to win. States he is a master tactician, but his style was incongruous to what the club wanted to play. Oddly sounds like FDB would be their best bet and I would love to see him go there so we could get a straight comparison..
Seems like it a done deal and its the one Moshiri wants.
Seems to me we have gone for Moyes without having to get Moyes. Safe, pragmatic but someone who can sort out the mess left behind.
247 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:50:52
Martinez is gone so let's get out of the negative dark cloud he had a lot of us under and embrace the new manager.
Hopefully Mr. Mosh is going to be an owner we will learn to trust and respect over time. The future is looking bright.
248 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:59:04
The mob across the park have theirarm waving, attention seeking serial loser, but we have a manager with the potential to move us up to the next level.
249 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:05:18
250 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:07:58
The main thing to me though, is that Mr Moshiri will expect results and he will give Koeman every opportunity to produce them; but if they don't show, well, I think that will all be in the contract.
Like you, I think he will prove to be a top class owner. I'm not sure why I think this, maybe wishful thinking; but I can see Mr Usmanov selling up at Arsenal and becoming a Director at Everton. Between them, they have a powerful lot of money, but equally importantly, they have links with many more potential sponsors who will be wanting to come on board.
I should stay off this real ale but I'm getting a good feeling about an upturn at long last, in the fortunes of Everton Football Club.
251 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:10:11
252 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:11:06
As if that wasn't enough Koeman had just ruptured his Achilles heel and had needed immediate hospital treatment in the days before the match, so his input was probably minimal (he attended the game on crutches).
Apart from that, it was, as Martinez said, "the complete performance" by us.
253 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:15:14
Koeman is far more than that. He's a very talented manager who's ambitious.
Safe would have been Mark Hughes or som other also-ran manager. To talk about Koeman as being the safe choice is utter bollocks.
Compare his record with the best of the top managers and he shows up well. Anyone else talking about Koeman as If he's some sort of Kenwright compromise is talking shite and to be honest I don't want to hear it right now.
254 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:30:47
255 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:35:16
I still think the real test is whether the club is ready for success. Will we hold the manager to account? Will we support him with funds? Will we insist on a certain direction and level of ambition for the club? That includes commercial performance and a new home.
We've been led by our last two managers in their image. I'd like to see the club lead now under Moshiri. Give the manager a platform to simply coach good players to play to their potential.
In the right circumstances, a good manager can succeed. We don't need to ask for miracles.
256 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:39:59
But Moshiri seems to be a man with the bit between his teeth and that's a good thing. Feeling much more positive about him and his plans for our wonderful clubs future.
COYB
257 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:47:41
I can't wait for the announcement - it will be the best news we've had since we sacked Martinez.
One can (and clearly some are) drive oneself mad wondering about all the what ifs and maybes regarding other candidates but simple fact will be we are a damn sight better off with Koeman than that last clown.
258 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:49:38
259 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:58:19
http://thekitman.co.uk/2016/06/everton-third-shirt-2016-17-leaked/
260 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:22:47
What do Jose Mourinho, Guus Hiddink, Mark Hughes, Jurgen Klopp and Slaven Bilic all have in common?
Answer: They all finished behind Koeman last season.
261 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:23:09
262 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:35:03
"Seems to me we have gone for Moyes without having to get Moyes. Safe, pragmatic but someone who can sort out the mess left behind."
What? Ffs, cheer up.
Be great to beat that wavey armed, arrogant 'five time loser' and his merry bunch of c**ts next season. Go on Koeman, bang him, son.
263 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:38:00
Southampton themselves could have locked Koeman into a longer deal but chose to wait until the end of his second season before offering him an extension. The only loyalty in football belongs to the supporters everybody else in the game are only thinking about their own agendas and bank balances, it is sad, it may even be immoral but that's the way it is.
Perhaps somebody who is slightly older than I can inform us whether Harry Catterick was under contract with Sheffield Wednesday when Everton came calling?
264 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:51:31
I for one am delighted to see Everton being assertive for once, instead of being trampled on in the media and by other supposedly bigger clubs. Long may it continue.
265 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:52:09
No one becomes a billionaire without ruthlessness. I've got work on Monday. We may not win the League next year.......but this Club is back.
About time - stop the small Club mentality on here
266 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:59:51
1) We'll never get a perfect manager as..there's no such thing.
2) No one knows.
267 Posted 04/06/2016 at 00:04:56
What's important is that EFC have hired, by orders of magnitude, a manager better than the one dismissed.
Orders of magnitude better.
The games will be played and we'll see.
268 Posted 05/06/2016 at 00:33:28
I don't know, I think after the top names we have been continually linked with has turned an appointment which the majority of Evertonians would have been ecstatic with after the west ham game and up until Wembley.
I will obviously get behind him, just not over excited yet, however I'm going to convince myself, yeah... Diego who?
269 Posted 05/06/2016 at 00:38:33
I know we'll be a Champions League team in three years with a beautiful new stadium on the water in five years.
We don't know what's going to happen... of course we do. We're gonna rocket up the table and become England's biggest, baddest, silverware-laden team!
Embrace the hope - it's back! We're gonna win the league FFS! ;0)
271 Posted 05/06/2016 at 01:32:55
The deal clincher..... just over 2 months ago a manager was 2-0 down at half time at home to the red shite, made some changes and came out in the second half and shafted them 3-2.... He'll do for me... long may that continue (although I would obviously prefer not to be 2 down in the first place).
274 Posted 05/06/2016 at 02:38:42
275 Posted 05/06/2016 at 02:49:32
And what if he'd refused? What do you think BK would have done??? Sack him?
276 Posted 05/06/2016 at 03:19:34
Money usually does the trick. With that said, the money in the modern game is so ludicrous that it's meaningless. Whether we pay him £1 million, £6 million or £1 billion it's all pie in the sky to the average punter.
278 Posted 05/06/2016 at 06:30:47
So we await the official statement. Koeman will do for me. Just watch two short documentaries on the demise of Villa and Newcastle .
Scary stuff that we were heading that way. Mr Moshiri saw it too good on him for getting rid of Martinez.
Fingers crossed for a summer of hope.
279 Posted 05/06/2016 at 07:49:23
280 Posted 05/06/2016 at 07:58:06
COYB
281 Posted 05/06/2016 at 08:03:29
282 Posted 05/06/2016 at 08:28:27
It appears that Koeman wasn't fully convinced about a signing a new contract anyway, as his statement regarding lack of ambition seems to refer to the club continually selling its best players.
He must think that Southampton will not match his ambition and it seems to be that their previous manager left for the same reason.
283 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:01:50
John Moores was an honourable man but if he wanted something then he knew how to get it, he was a mover and hopefully Mr. Moshiri is in the same mould.
284 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:27:08
285 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:30:30
286 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:37:48
287 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:48:11
288 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:52:17
289 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:01:09
Mind you, he'll have a decent idea from seeing us play, but we're going to have to replace Lukaku if he wants to leave, I'm not sure about Ross Barkley and where he would fit into a team pattern and we don't have much in the way of alternatives if anyonbe is off form or injured.
I hope some of the youngsters make it into the squad on a regular basis, but I we would be doing much better than expected if we madse it into the top 4, or even the top six, in the first season.
That's assuming we get our man, that is!
290 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:13:30
Remember going to the first game of the season down there many years ago. There were three of us and we stayed overnight. As per normal, we won the game, 2-0. We went on the ale after the match, then went for an Indian. After that back on the ale in the town centre. I kid you not, there was not a soul around.
This was in the days when last orders was 10.30. The bar we were in had less than ten people. By 10.45 there was only us three and the landlord was actually waiting at the door to lock up.
The sinbads now think they are a bigger club than us, just because they finished above us in the last two seasons. They finished above Chelsea and the RS last season, so are they bigger than them two?
Big clubs win trophies and don't spend many years outside the top flight. Tried to find their honours list, but couldn't. So here it is, should fit on the back of a postage stamp. FA Cup 1976. Probably not worth making a list for!!
The only thing they have said correct, is the state of Goodison. We all know it's rundown, but still generates a better atmosphere then their flat pack, bought from IKEA, stadium. Our rundown stadium will still, however, have more season ticket holders than their capacity next season.
So should Koeman join us, welcome aboard RK. You will be joining a bigger club, with better players and the best and most loyal fans in the world, who will soon (hopefully) have the best stadium on Liverpool's iconic waterfront, not stuck in the middle of some industrial estate.
292 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:23:26
293 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:25:38
294 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:01:19
Surely that would be a Monday morning/early afternoon type thing?
295 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:06:37
The differences need to be mostly psychological and tactical, the personnel are good. We need two signings (keeper and left side), Stones and/or Lukaku may need replacing, and then we're looking at whether or not players are available that are better than the ones we've got. There won't be many of them.
296 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:15:19
PS: I though Moshiri was loaded - why go dutch ?
PPS: Has BK offered RM a job as a poster designer for his shows yet - with word like incredible, phenomenal etc he'd be in his element.
I know I need to get out more !
297 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:19:59
I don't see anything but a squad of mental midgets - bottlers not winners. Add to that the removal of the deadwood and the ancient and it should be obvious we need a major overhaul.
People also seem to neglect the fact that the league is awash with cash like never before; pretty much every club could claim to have their 'best squad in years' player for player so it is utterly irrelevant.
The question is; is our squad better than the rest in the league. Absolutely not I think is the answer.
298 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:23:47
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300 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:35:26
I can understand why the Southamton supporters would be upset if Koeman undertook to stay, then dunarunna without asking the club for permission to speak with our boss.
I think there's that many ""reports say" and "sources close to the club/manager/player" rubbish; that separating fact and fiction (or creative reporting) becomes more and more difficult.
What Rob says is indicative of how easy "Scousers" get maligned for something, however weakly the story is linked to the people of Liverpool.
301 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:47:54
Evertonians have been calling for a manager who is a winner, someone who is and has been successful, in the hope they can bring that mentality to Goodison.
Everton also need this with their players too. Some players have been without winning anything for so long with us, I feel we need to sign, eventually, players that have that winning mentality.
Two or maybe three players that have actually won things and have the hunger for more, some people slate Lukaku but at least he states he wants to win stuff. We need players signed, who will bring belief into the squad.
Doing the double over the RS would be a good start! I don't think we need a big overhaul, four or five signings and a batch of fearless hungry youngsters courtesy of Mr.Unsworth should do it.
302 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:52:09
303 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:52:15
Koeman has managed eight clubs before us and I'll bet none of them had to work this hard to get him.
304 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:03:13
305 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:23:33
I totally agree, some major work to be done with our squad.
I was reading somewhere the other day that every club in the premier league will have and spend a minimum transfer budget of 60 million .
This league really is awash with TV money.
306 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:27:55
May be a bit early to say it but 'Mortimer, WE'RE BACK!'.
307 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:34:35
Wonder if Everton will ever get to the stage where it lets the supporters' associaton have a seat at the board?
308 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:35:53
I don't see any others that would be.
It looks like Southampton have took the hump and want their pound of flesh, I don't think you can blame them.
309 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:41:00
310 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:10:25
Good post, nicely summsrised. Do you have any links to the gsrbage they're spouting? Be interested to read! :D
Jack:
"hear he speaks several languages - as long as he doesn't speak that all to common dialect, shite I'll be happy - had enough of hearing people speaking shite at Goodison to last me a life time."
Love it! RM spoke a lot of 'shite'!!
People are getting impatient about his appointment, chill out will ya, enjoy the moment.
The good times will roll. COYB.
PS Does anybody know much about his assistant and coach?
PPS The people who said Moyes was coming back, quiet now...
311 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:10:33
As for the Southampton fans, I think most of those posting deranged comments about them being the "bigger club" are actually just kids. The metric by which they are making that absurd claim is finishing ahead of us for the past 2 seasons, which is plainly only something a teenager would posit as a rationale for the claim.
312 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:12:57
Do what needs to be done - my man Moshiri!!!!
313 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:18:35
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/14536889.Koeman__agrees_deal__to_join_Everton/
314 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:19:11
Funny old game
315 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:27:57
I remember way back in '71, when I was a young lad, we hammered them 7-0, I remember so well reading the 'Shoot' (does anyone remember the comic?), a Southampton supporter wrote to ask the date of the next fixture, so he could get revenge!
May I just add, to all the born yesterday supporters of the so-called 'big' Clubs. the sleeping giant who is Everton FC is about to awake... with a hard on!!!
316 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:30:35
I would be surprised if our former manager gets a job in the premier league unless some club are absolutely desperate. He did himself no favours with his constant denials and failures to fix what needed fixed.
I hope he gets a job in Spain, because I want to hear if he speaks the same crap over there as he did over here.
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