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Martinez: We didn’t show up


Everton fell behind after just five minutes when Jamie Vardy swept home an unchallenged cross from the right and never recovered, conceding on two more occasions before Vardy missed a second penalty and the chance to notch a hat-trick on Leicester's big day.
The Foxes were crowned champions after the final whistle following a 3-1 win that underlined their status as deserving title winners but Martinez was left to reflect on another awful result and, with the exception of Matthew Pennington, he offered no defence for his charges' efforts.
“[It was] very poor,” Martinez admitted to Sky Sports after the game. “Obviously we were very aware that we were facing a team that had incredible momentum and we've seen why they are the Champions.
“They've got that intent, the work ethic, the way they get into your box and we never showed up.
“That's the disappointment. We wanted to win the three points [but] we had no concentration. The defending of our box was [non-existent]. As a performance it's a real disappointment.
“We've never performed like this away from home when we've had a real need to get the points,” Martinez continued, overlooking the debacle at Anfield when the team arguably needed a result more than at any stage this season, playing at Anfield four days before a cup semi-final. “It was a really, really poor performance. Only young Matty Pennington applied himself with an incredible desire and intensity and [nobody else] on the pitch matched him."
The performance was unacceptable. I don't think you can expect to go to a football game and just feel that you can turn up whenever you decide to.
Roberto MartinezAsked why he felt his team didn't show up, Martinez didn't have an immediate answer but he cited his players' lack of attentiveness at the back and general lack of impetus going forward as major factors.
“It's hard to put your finger on it. Today was a big footballing occasion [where] we forgot to do the basics. First and foremost you have to defend your box well and then you build a platform to be yourself and I don't think our play was fluid on the ball. Our hold-up play was poor. We couldn't compete [with Leicester] with that lack of intensity and lack of focus.
“We've got another game on Wednesday and, clearly, we have to show a completely different level of performance.”
Martinez went further in his interview with BBC Sport, branding the performance as "unacceptable".
"I don't think you can expect to go to a football game and just feel that you can turn up whenever you decide to."
He spoke for even less time in the media room to the rest of the media shortly afterwards and was forced to acknowledge that in terms of positives to take from his players' display there were, "none at all."
"We looked like a group of individuals. We never showed the basics, we didn't have any intensity or any concentration and when you do that against any team you're going to get punished, especially Leicester because they've probably won the league of being very, very intense.”
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3 Posted 08/05/2016 at 01:44:06
4 Posted 08/05/2016 at 01:57:36
Or, as England's beloved hero Cinderella sweetheart Jamie Vardy might put it, "walk on. Oi. Walk on."
5 Posted 08/05/2016 at 01:57:42
6 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:00:06
I'm sure he never sent them out to be so inept but it happened. He's clearly lost the players and a change is needed.
I don't throw scorn on him like others but he's just not up to the job. Plain and simple.
Let's get this season done then let the board deliver what the majority want.
7 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:04:24
Looks like Martinez has laid the blame squarely with the players, anyway. How dignified of him.
"We've never performed like this away from home when we've had a real need to get the points"
Another classic from Martinez. Add that one to the list of bewildering statements that are standalone sackable offences.
It's a shame more isn't being made of this game in the media. Sure, it was Leicester's day - but anyone viewing from an EFC perspective will surely feel like that was the final straw (yes, another one).
They say you don't come back after you've lost the dressing room. It's abundantly clear that's happened judging from yesterday's 'performance'. It's perhaps even more evident in RM's post-match interview.
He has to go, Bill. Swallow your stupid pride and look after the club you say you love.
8 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:04:58
9 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:20:25
10 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:20:27
No it's not. It's because you are the manager with shite tactics, team selection, training, fitness ... I could go on. Get out of our club. NOW!
12 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:37:07
The Baines apology will go down in folklore and sealed his fate for many.
Chemistry, "showing up" and playing for each other was on show today in bucket loads, sadly the team in blue with it wasn't Everton.
13 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:46:52
14 Posted 08/05/2016 at 02:58:27
How much shame will they allow before axing this clown?
15 Posted 08/05/2016 at 03:02:54
Well, if you know that, why don't you coach defence???
16 Posted 08/05/2016 at 03:10:43
He blamed the players and he's right. They clearly have given up on him as have the fans and, presumeably now, the board. It's over. Hope the new manager is of the level we expect.
17 Posted 08/05/2016 at 03:22:31
We got shown up, YOU got shown up for the bang average bluffer you are...it's just taken some longer to spot than others.
18 Posted 08/05/2016 at 03:52:16
Never before was I like that, through the Walker, Smith or Moyes days. RM is after sucking the life out of me. I hope to god it'll all end soon and he'll be gone.
I actually watched the game live today... haven't been more embarrassed to be supporting us. It's all down to the manager in my eyes. They are good players but instructed to use shite tactics and obviously don't want to play for him anymore. New boss and it'll all change I'm sure.
Koeman or Frank de Boer in... Martinez out.
19 Posted 08/05/2016 at 04:13:30
If anyone can make sense of this man's ramblings please share it with me.
20 Posted 08/05/2016 at 04:31:33
21 Posted 08/05/2016 at 04:51:18
22 Posted 08/05/2016 at 04:53:53
23 Posted 08/05/2016 at 04:58:27
Bring on Connolly move Oviedo into the midfield drag that lazy shit Barkley off. Lennon from hero to zero. Drag Lukaku and Niasse off and give Dowell a run. Roberto has run his course, so full of shit. Get rid of him now and let's have some fresh air into the club.
24 Posted 08/05/2016 at 05:02:38
I don't mean yo show any disrespect to them with the above statement, but come on..... They hammered us with total ease.
It was a complete embarrassment from start to finish, our owner must clearly see now more than ever that Roberto has long run his race and we are desperate for change.
25 Posted 08/05/2016 at 05:14:41
Did you really pay 㾹.5 million for Niasse while selling Naismith? What we have for a manager is a bloody turkey.
26 Posted 08/05/2016 at 05:15:44
They were not alone because I have often been castigated on these very pages for daring to expose the charlatan.
27 Posted 08/05/2016 at 05:37:57
28 Posted 08/05/2016 at 06:20:21
Somewhere Dave Whelan is laughing his ass off "Roberto is one of the top four managers in Europe" "Everton are not big enough for Roberto" Billy Boyspen fell for that one hook line and sinker.
30 Posted 08/05/2016 at 07:26:50
That Boys Pen Billy Bullshit will continue play "the lyre" whilst his blue empire burns all around him.
That the incomprehensible babble-on Bobby will still be in charge come the autumn.
That our sought after, young, talented players will be snapped up by dynamic managers at clubs with ambitious owners.
That our replacement signings will be third rate pretenders.
That clubs, who we would traditionally consider as lesser, will make great use of the incoming financial bonanza, both in terms of players and managerial staff.
That come this time next season, we will look pretty much the way we did during the depressing 90's.
ALL of this can of course be addressed IF Farhad Moshiri lights a fire beneath the two pretenders.
De Boer in charge immediately, would begin sending out some real declarations of intent. But stand by to be amazed, for ALL the wrong reasons.
31 Posted 08/05/2016 at 07:32:37
We've already beaten last season too having currently shipped no less than 52 goals in 36 games - get in. Martinez in on course to maintain his consistent downward trend in league positions year on year with the double whammy of conceding ever more goals each season.
I'm going to stay optimistic and take the boards silence as confirmation that he'll be goon in a few days time. (It'll get ugly if he's still in the dugout come August.)
32 Posted 08/05/2016 at 07:46:01
It is actually uncomfortable to watch and the board need to put him out of his misery.
33 Posted 08/05/2016 at 07:48:42
It will be too late then guys. It might need the majority to get ugly now. Our feelings have to be vented at the last home game and there should be no lap of honour.
34 Posted 08/05/2016 at 07:57:11
35 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:01:24
36 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:08:01
37 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:10:55
Since you have manifestly, and by your own admission (at last), failed to fulfil the terms of your job description, you should be sacked, immediately and WITHOUT compensation...
38 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:19:35
It's as clear as night versus day that the players have no respect for the manager or the club. There is no way on paper the Leicester football team are better than Everton team... we rolled over like puppies yesterday.
Enough of the Mister Nice Guy act, Bill. For the future of this club,sack him ASAP and show us the fans at least your willing to try and put the club first.
39 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:22:03
If we can give the Russians 13 million for Niasse, a few million to see the backside of Roberto, is the deal of the century.
40 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:22:38
He's probably knew that we arent strong enough to play it. So weak in midfield and defence.
43 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:32:25
Surely, you will be cheering on our team on my behalf even it those games do save our hero's neck !
44 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:33:04
45 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:35:58
46 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:37:12
He should have gone last summer...
48 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:38:38
If it's not played out in the media spotlight these days, it seems it's not happening.
Hopefully, things are going on behind the scenes and our dead man walking will soon walk.
What a dismal period the past two seasons have been in our history.
49 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:41:21
50 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:44:02
My view is that Moshiri could turn out to be Moushiri - and not necessarily the one that roared !
51 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:45:35
Fuck off, Mr Martinez, back to that one legged twat Whelan .
52 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:48:50
54 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:54:51
Back to the game.
Mccarthy can only do so much. Barclay never puts any defensive work in. Cleverly is the new Osman at defending plus we played lukaku up from with george weah's other cousin.
Leicester could have scored 8 and nobody could argue. In fact if it meant getting shut of rm I wouldnt have minded.
55 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:55:03
56 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:55:55
57 Posted 08/05/2016 at 08:57:52
Do they really seriously want Martinez walking around that pitch after the Norwich game doing the lap of honour (call it what you will)?
It seems to be the Everton board are just inviting mayhem next Sunday by keeping him on and asking him to do that.
58 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:13:30
That is probably a more accurate reflection of our current level.
Surely the club can see that, and if RM is digging his heels in for financial reasons, surely it must be possible to agree some sort of mutually beneficial severance package.
Might it be possible that the silence is due to lawyers undertaking those negotiations?
59 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:13:43
I cannot understand why Martinez kept him on for so long. I cannot understand the substitutions and most of all I cannot how Martinez is still in a job.
60 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:16:57
Well we did, 3300 of us. Absolute disgrace.
61 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:24:46
So there was no "real need to get points" yesterday? An insult to all blue supporters especially the travelling hordes. I want us to win every game.
62 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:25:05
If Everton do finish any higher than 14th or 15th then I really will start to believe the table does lie.
If we were to finish 15th that's about as good as our level and finishing 11th would be a totally injustice on teams like Swansea who have beaten the likes of Arsenal and West Ham away and Manchester United and Liverpool at home.
I can barely recall us beating a single top side all season.
63 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:31:11
However, don't be surprised if there are large sections of the crowd that do applaud the players (and potentially Martinez) if it isn't cancelled.
I fear there are still large numbers of fellow blues that are either blind to the damage which has been done already, confused by their loyalty for the club/badge and that of the manager, and team, don't agree with protests (as it isn't the Everton way) or worse still just apathetic to voice their disapproval.
Collectively, we have to make our voices heard at the Norwich game against Martinez and Kenwright and tell our fellow blues around us to do the same.
64 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:50:24
Oviedo at right back, Osman and Gibson on as subs, Niasse anywhere near the team, complete lack of fitness right through the squad, total inability of midfielders and defenders to track a runner. I could go on but I can't be bothered, Martinez has instilled a sense of apathy in me that I have never felt in over fifty years as a bluenose.
67 Posted 08/05/2016 at 09:55:06
I disagree with the people giving Niasse a hard time. New team, league and country, initially unfit due to Russian league break and coming into a team going backwards. Not everyone hits the ground running just look at players like Lamela. He was signed in 2013 and only this season has he really come good. Let's give Niasse a pre-season and see what happens.
68 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:02:40
69 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:09:34
Niasse is 26 years old and he's come from Russia not straight from Africa, there shouldn't be a year long settling in period and I'm sorry but he can't even do the basics like trap a ball and pass it, his movement is amateurish.
I will though say it's not his fault he didn't pay 㾹.5 million to bring himself here but let's end this debate, he's probably not even going to be here next season, I believe we'll flog him half price, can't see a new manager sticking with half of these to be honest.
70 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:13:34
72 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:29:34
Oh and Phil (#43), I hate to say this, pal, but your bet comes crashing down at Sunderland on Wednesday. I hope it doesn't but there is no way we'll beat them.
73 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:35:16
He's lost the players and I don't understand why the Board are sitting on their hands.
74 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:37:40
75 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:42:16
It's about time that the men in white coats got a grip of bobby and put him in the padded cell.
He finally sets us up with 442, a plus for him you would think?! Not when you have the majority of your first choice back four missing and you are playing the new champions that have been destroying all comers playing 442 week in, week out! Oveido at rb, even after anfield?! I'm have no words for kneearse and his purchase and selection.
Plus, his comments post match seem quite similar to bainseys from a few weeks ago?! The same ones that Leighton had to apologise for? Funny how no blame apportioned to himself? Shame he hasn't laid into them sooner, might have sounded a bit more sincere, you cheeky bastard.
Nuthouse beckons bobby, I think he draws the match tactics and team selections on his finch farm office walls in a mixture of his own and greame Jones excrement, whilst listening to the best of bill kenwrights bullshit speeches and excuses volumes 1,2,3,4, and 5.
You've been rumbled bobby, the games up. Do the right thing and resign, before this sorry situation gets any worse.
76 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:42:18
77 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:42:22
I'm off to bed soon. I'll be checking first thing to see if he's gone..... again
78 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:43:09
Please please please, just do the right thing and fall on your sword.
Obviously billy bullshitter doesn't want to put us all out of our misery.
79 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:46:20
"We didn't show up" - when was the last time we showed up?
"We've never performed like this away from home when we've had a real need to get the points," - Anfield, Roberto?
"It's hard to put your finger on it." - he has often said of late he doesn't know why we're so bad, how can he not know?! He's the manager! We all know. Maybe he should read TW then he'll know.
"First and foremost you have to defend your box well and then you build a platform to be yourself and I don't think our play was fluid on the ball."
We never defend our box well. Our play is never fluid because we pass it 560 times per move.
He's clearly blaming the players, he's ssying they haven't tried. I think they didn't, their confidence in him is shot, it's ruined (the team).
If he uses the words "inctedible" or "intensity" again, I'll fucking end him.
Also, why does he persist with the "we have great away form" - we've failed to win 12 away games, poor record. Really winds me up! Has anybody been would up more by another Everton manager?? I'd be amazed if there was one!
Some people say he won't go. Could you explain to me then why the board haven't come out and backed him? They might not read TW, but they'll know. The board are stupid, but things are so bad even they aren't that stupid? Why would they keep him???
My seat will be empty v Norwich, I refuse to attend again under him. I am desperate beyond belief for him to go. And as Kenwright has dragged this out, he can go too.
This is the lowest point in my time as a fan. Humiliating and embarrassing. The Red Echo still don't call for his head!
80 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:52:22
Reading the comments on all the different threads on here I just feel sorry all my blue brothers that did watch. the team has not been playing for him for months. we are in May and I can think of one game were the players have shown spirit this calender year the Chelsea game.
De Boers agent this morning say that Frankie would be interested in the Everton Job is the Glimmer of Everton Happiness I have felt in Months.
81 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:53:19
82 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:54:57
When I say 'those' that must mean everyone after the awful performances we have witnessed over the last few months.
The players are a disgrace as well. Call themselves professional? They are a joke. I'd like to see the lot go. Chairman, manager and players.What an embarrassing bunch they are.
Without doubt we are the worst team in the league right now.
Sunderland will defeat us easily in midweek.
83 Posted 08/05/2016 at 10:59:53
84 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:02:28
85 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:14:53
I watched the game in my local last night and the worst part of it was the regulars felt sorry for us.
As an Orient fan said " Absolute shambles and a team without shape and direction"
I am a proud scouser and a prouder blue-nose and I don't want southerners taking pity on me and my team, I just want the manager shown the door so we can rebuild (again)
86 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:28:00
I'll keep checking every hour or so
87 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:31:10
Well well, Roberto. When did you think that one up? Considering the team hasn't been doing it for two seasons it has taken quite some time for the penny to drop. When Moyes became a memory, your teams forgot how to defend. The same mistakes were made over and over again.
And yesterday you put out a formation, against the current champions, which gave them acres and acres of sapce in midfield - please attack us any time you want.
Pathetic!
Adeu.
88 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:31:16
Any incoming manager would need to rebuild the team.
Players out of contract or probably want out.
Howard - Gone.
Hibbert - Gone
Gibson - Gone
Ossie - Gone
Pienaar - Gone
Mirallias - You would think gone after the way he has be treated.
Rom - Enough said
Stones - Enough said
Then you have Barry, Jags , Banies and Kone that are the wrong side of 33. Barry is 37 is Feb.
Out of a squad of 25, 8 will be nailed on to leave and then you have 4 players in the squad that are 33 and over.
For any manager that is some rebuild.
I though this Fraud was meant to be building a squad?
Jesus Christ I despair.
89 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:36:02
90 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:40:06
He should have been saying how bad they have been playing long before now.
I agreed with a lot of posters that this was a good squad but I don't think it is anymore.
There are a lot of prima donnas in our team and not one leader and that needs to change.
Would a new manager want to work with a lot of this team ?
Massive rebuilding job required on our first team squad just to keep up and that's what the board are dreading - spending money !
Robles - has a lot to learn
Barkley - top player, world class ? That's an absolute joke.
Lakuku - 50million ? That's another absolute joke, although I hope we get that for him or more obviously !
Baines - done and dusted.
Coleman- needs to get his form back.
Jags - a year, maybe two left in him.
Funes Mori - suspect, but will get better with new coach.
McCarthy - rubbish sell him
Barry - better than the above and he's giving him 10 years.
Besic - who knows
Cleverley - squad player
Oviedo - sell
Mirallas - sell
Ossie - done and dusted
Deulofeu - who knows
Lennon - showing his true form lately
Stones - has a lot to learn , will be sold I reckon.
McGeady - done and dusted - gone
Pinnear - done and dusted -gone
Kone - done and dusted - gone
Gibson - if only he could stay fit - not worth a new contract unless it's a pay if you play.
Niasse - it looks like we've blown 13.5 million.
91 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:40:14
A damning indictment of what we currently are. Hapless Everton. Hapless Martinez. Fucking fire him. He's a shit manager who talks complete bollocks every time he opens his mouth. I was working with a Leicester fan yesterday, who said he felt sorry for us because if what we've become under Martinez.
When opposition supporters can see it, you know you're up shit creek.
92 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:41:35
This person has called that Martinez will leave after the Norwich game and Martinez already knows this.
Its good enough for me, make of that what you will.
93 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:49:54
Sunderland on Wednesday night will be the same, before next Sunday when the decibels will increase. Hope you've got some ear muffs.
FUCK OFF MARTINEZ!!
94 Posted 08/05/2016 at 11:57:35
95 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:00:11
Equally, it must be assumed that some of Everton's injured players must be feeling that their injuries are going to take longer than normal to clear up!
There were a few people on the park yesterday that were wishing that they were somewhere else.
This is the leicester side that put such a stunning run together to escape relegation last year.
They didn't hide when the going got tough, and when they had spent 140 days bottom of the pile.
Our lads need to look in the mirror- as much as Martinez has got it wrong, some of these players have let us all down on a regular basis.
It is particularly strange that Lukaku terrorised Man U's defence in the second half at Wembley, when there was a final to play for, but before and since that game, he has been in an induced coma.
96 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:03:55
The worst Chairman and Manager we have ever seen. WHY ARE THEY BOTH STILL AT GOODISON PARK? I hope they both get the reception they deserve at the Norwich game - 30,000+ boos ringing in their numbskull heads.
97 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:10:47
I don't get worked up (in a 'O'Neil? Fuck OFF!!' way) re rumours. People want to post them (or get worked up about them) no problem with me.
But looking at that, it would be quite a cruel/stupid move if it did happen in that way (ie: in that order).
In other words (IF he was being fucked off) you could tell him (or announce) tomorrow "Thanks very much, mutual agreement, caretaker manager* for the last two games blah blah", or put him in the position of facing a (potentially) very hostile crowd against Norwich, then telling him.
* by caretaker manager, I mean Joe Royle rather than a janitor
98 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:11:45
99 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:13:15
100 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:15:30
Strolls around the fucking pitch, never breaking sweat, terrible finisher, fucking god awful penalty taker and then demands moves to Champions League teams whenever anyone puts a microphone in his face.
He is one lazy bastard who can't even be bothered to try and score this last few games.
He makes me sick and I'll be glad to see the back of him.
101 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:32:04
"....Everton news before it becomes public....This person has called that Martinez will leave after the Norwich game and Martinez already knows this. Its good enough for me, make of that what you will."
All these 'nailed on' rumours from people with supposed insider knowledge have really begun grating with me this season. How many have we heard recently and how many of them have been proved right?Â
Russian buyout: happening tomorrow lad.Â
American takeover: done deal.Â
Yarmolenko: he's sat eating Shreddies in my conservatory right now. Swear down.Â
Baines V Martinez death match: Bainesy had him down and was about to rip his throat out with his little bare hands, the same way Paddy Swayze did with that rival bouncer in Roadhouse, but Lukaku stopped him at the last minute by melodramatically shouting "Noooooo. Don't lower yourself to his level Leighton". Me mate got it all on camera...but then dropped it down the bog.Â
This is basically what I make of such info whenever someone sees fit to share it:
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A ToffeeWeb contributor has come out fighting over allegations of extreme gullibility after having fallen prey to a ruthless scam artist.Â
Eager Believer (who once spent ten months back in 2009 believing he was David Moyes's top transfer target after all his mates said the papers were just misspelling his name) found himself the butt of jokes after blowing his entire life savings on the back of some random blokes claims to having spent the last sixteen years living in 'outer space'.Â
"Yes, ok. So, I met him in a boozer and he told me his name was Buck Rogers, but it's not like i'm naive and just took what he was saying at face value. Besides he'd been right before. He said Everton would be wearing blue socks instead of white this season and he said it way before the club had released any pictures whatsoever of the players posing like a load of cheaply photoshopped cardboard cut-out's in the new kit", said Mr Believer.
"He was very persuasive and had his story down pat. This guy knew things one could only even begin to comprehend if you had first hand knowledge of interplanetary flight, cosmic colonisatation or had caught that crappy Sean Connery movie 'Outland' late on Channel 5 one night.
Even so, I was still dubious. Could it really be so? What happened next however soon quelled what little doubts I had left. He dug into his pocket and pulled out undeniable proof of what he was saying, in the form of a couple of awe inspiring souvenirs he'd picked up on his intergalactic travels. Two 'space' bars: one from Mars and the other from the Milky Way.Â
I was speechless and begun to shake uncontrollably, like a fat bird on a crash diet driving past a kebab shop with her car window down. Â I had to own them and, to my excitement, Mr Rogers was surprisingly open to a deal. £2000.00 each for items of such star-bursting significance and scarcity seemed a real bargain too.
It's what happened next that really blew my mind (along with my life savings and marriage) though. Rogers produced a third, hitherto unmentioned, space bar, one from an as yet undiscovered planet called 'Chunky Kit-Kat', which he proceeded to explain was populated entirely by a peaceful race of fat as fuck felines wearing football strips.Â
It was only because I was a fellow Evertonian that he was entrusting me with this knowledge, said Rogers. My heart swelled with blue pride at such a selfless display of kinship. "Could I...b...b...buy it?", I stammered. "Soz lad, I'm starving and it's the last one I've got left" replied my blue buddy from beyond the stars. Yet, I wasn't disheartened. Earth scientists were due to discover Chunky Kit-Kat any day now, according to Buck. I knew if I could just empty all my bank accounts and get my arse down to the bookies before 'fat cats in footie clobber central' became common knowledge amongst the nerdy nobs at NASA, I'd net me and my family a nice fucking fortune and never have to work ever again.
How I wish I'd stopped off at that bastard petrol station on my way there, instead of on the way back!Â
As the scales were lifted from my eyes I attempted to seek out Buck the blue, who was...naturally..nowhere to be found. The cheating con artist had clearly seen me coming a mile off. Flogging me a couple of normal, run of the mill, chocolate bars and passing them off as genuine space grub? Never will I so readily buy into the hushed whispers of a fellow supporter sharing supposed 'secrets' ever again.
The opportunistic lying tosser obviously just picked them up from a corner shop on one of his frequent trips back to Earth to watch Everton get twatted."
102 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:35:06
The Press are now openly saying that the Everton players are now playing (well, not playing) to get him sacked. In my near 30 years of supporting Everton I've never heard that accusation made against an Everton team. It's got this bad now. This is how far we've fallen now.
The inevitable fan protests haven't started in earnest yet for a number of reasons:
1. The Bournemouth game was about the Hillsborough decision, by the way fair play to all involved in finally getting justice, that would have been in very bad taste.
2. Leicester were presented with the premier league trophy so any protests would have been easily drowned out.
3. Sunderland away? Why would thousands waste their time and money going all the way up there for another hiding? Thing is our fans are the best in the world and they will do that, I think the club should put on free away travel for it.
4. Which leaves us with Norwich next weekend at Goodison. That's the day of reckoning. I actually wanted Norwich to win yesterday so that their game would have been shown live and the protests would have shown the rest of the country what Everton fans thought of Martinez this season. Come Sunday, Carpe Diam! Show the board we want rid of him and rid of now.
Pellegrini would be better than Roberto, but I'm not keen on him. Koeman is my first choice. But convincing Koeman that we are not a step down from Southampton would be a tough job right now. That speaks volumes of how far we've fallen. It's a sobering thought.
We've a long way to go to get back to being competitive and challenging for the Top 6/7 next season, the next big step starts with the choice of manager for next season.
103 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:38:03
Give him a vote of confidence - everybody blows up, re-quotes "what a manager" anger directed to the owners/chairman. So that one is out
Sack him today - all ask why now and not 2-3 weeks ago because what has changed. New man in charge for 2 games and then what, they move aside for the new person? And what will we gain apart from something to cheer at GP next week.
Sack him next weekend - OK fine, it is 15th May and what are we going to do then that we are not already doing now? and if all the stories are to be believed . . . . .
Sack him 1st June - save compensation, lose just 2 weeks in getting players who are all off playing in the Euros anyway and hopefully a new manager already to be announced.
The issue we all have is impatience. We really want to know he is going but that is constructive dismissal and gives none of the advantages of post 1st June sacking but none of the advantages for the pre-1st June. But we all want to know because we are tired of this dragging on - a lame duck manager, a dead man walking.
And with the media circus that is the premier league and a guy wanting to keep his job (would we not say the same if it was us?) then of course he keeps getting asked for interviews and keeps saying he knows how to fix and wants the time to fix it. And we all think he can't and doesn't know how but want him to shut up but the media won't let him. What do you want him to say in the interview? I have no idea, I have lost the players, my philosophy is not working and I know I am going to be sacked at the end of the season. Yes we do but would you say that to your boss if he asked you why your team is not bringing in the results he demands?
So we all need patience. Frustrating, yes it is.
Our fear is he will not go but we have to agree you cannot say "he will be sacked", you can only say "he has been sacked".
104 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:40:11
105 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:56:59
The Janitor would do better than the Muppet if Joe Royle is not available.
106 Posted 08/05/2016 at 12:58:44
Let's face it the players first to go have to be those who have played so poorly for the last 2 months.
Effort is one thing but achievement is another.
There are of course many differing opinions and one could argue all day about the candidates to be moved out.
Many fans lambasted an aging Tim Howard when things first started to go wrong but it was never his fault.
Overall the strategy of RM was the downfall end of story.
Thank God only 2 games to go of this shocking season.
107 Posted 08/05/2016 at 13:11:59
From a year ago!
108 Posted 08/05/2016 at 13:13:58
You think?
The amount of repetitive 'JUST FUCKING GO MARTINEZ!!' venting I've seen on TW this season makes me think tickets could be going for 5 times their value.
I mean if you're going to continually scream 'JUST FUCKING GO MARTINEZ!!!' why not actually shout it at him (rather than at..no one)
Will consider offers over 𧶀 (time-wasters only).
109 Posted 08/05/2016 at 13:50:11
Our crowd in the main are weak and acceot mediocrity. They'll be too busy clapping a five yard pass, rather than doing this. Everyone gave it in the big un it'd happen against Bournemouth and nothing. Our fans haven't got the arse, part of the problem.
110 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:16:29
111 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:24:37
112 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:26:20
I think we need a leader, someone with the balls to run on the pitch, beckon the crowd with a wave and shout 'Come on!!' as they head towards the the Directors box"
If someone would do that, everyone would I'm sure follow.
But it needs someone who isn't weak, who won't accept mediocrity. Someone not too busy clapping a five yard pass"
It is obvious to me, from your post, that person is..you.
So when I see you run on and beckon, I'll head on too as I'm sure will many others (not sure how I'll get down to the pitch from the upper Gwladys but I'm sure I'll figure something out).
(oh, if I don't see you run on, I'll just assume you're full of shite and guilty of everything you're accusing others of)
113 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:27:25
114 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:38:59
The cushions raining down and around 11, 000 attending (thats how bad it got).
A direct physical attack by a supporter on a great manager.
A fan confronting Nyarko on the pitch.
The atmosphere will be mild compared to how bad its been because this board have lowered our expectation of ever winning the title .
115 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:52:14
116 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:53:30
And there you have it.
Programmed and brainwashed into the plucky little club mentality. The chief perpetrator will continue sitting snugly in the best seat in the house, an onion up his sleeve for when the tears are required.
And all the people went merrily along with it.
117 Posted 08/05/2016 at 14:53:33
I do know someone with a bungee cord though so could ask for a loan of it. I could then join in the protest although not sure how long I'll be able to hang around.
118 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:02:49
119 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:07:54
120 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:09:01
Everton are fast becoming the Coventry City of the 1970s to 1990s era, who always seemed to be in the top flight without ever turning any heads.
121 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:10:05
122 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:58:35
124 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:05:56
125 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:14:54
126 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:19:55
127 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:21:04
128 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:42:43
129 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:53:44
Kenwright has obviously swallowed a lot but his pride, nah even he couldn't manage that without gagging. Why couldn't his bloody Uncle have watched South Liverpool or Marine or anyone bar Everton.
130 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:02:10
No worries on that one, in the end of course, but why should I even be thinking like that??? Only ONE reason, I'm feeling right now, and it's that man again.. at the VERY LEAST my/our PERCEPTION of him!! Sorry Roberto.. and I really AM.. (and also it's all been said and repeated time and again now!) but the only way is OUT (of Goodison) it seems!!...
De Boer is my own personal favourite to take over.. but, whoever.. one tiny (ferkin massive!!!) thing.. if.. if.. IF... Roberto Martinez IS still here with us next season, I WILL support him.. TOTALLY too.. so.. is that bad???.. am I fucking crazy??? Thing is, after all, what culpability have WE ALL had in getting into the heads of our players that if they play totally shite... as they so often have, especially at home as we know!.. that's it is ONLY Martinez's fault??? Isn't that so often a major factor in why otherwise 'good' – if only on paper – teams DO go down? Because the fans fill the players heads with excuses?)...
Don't get me wrong here.. I've already said I think Martinez really must, has to.. at least SHOULD (on further, less reactive/negative, thought), be replaced.. but.. and it's a HUGE but (oo-err, Missus!.. sorry) can we really absolve OURSELVES of ALL responsibility? (Nevermind the PLAYERS, lacking their own demanded and expected WILL and FIGHT, a'la Man U recent times.. the overall shambles left by SAF - who they were AFRAID to let down!! – for our last incumbent Moyes to struggle with on his 'dream' move!!)???...
I only KNOW I don't feel good about ANY of this.
I'm only SURE that Roberto Martinez has proved MOTIVATING his players is his major failing.
But then I remember the good spells, some REALLY good spells, some GREAT results and/ or games under RM, even this season, and I think 'What the fuck happened to THAT team?.. WHO didn't turn up next training session, next game? Roberto or his players or both?'.. the mind boggles.
My head is messed up by my, our, beloved Toffee Blue team right now.. but the answer?
How long is a piece of (blue) string?
132 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:15:30
133 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:22:03
He has the power to sack him but wont so this whole farce is now on him.
Everton fan boys pen my arse............he is a disgrace.
134 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:28:14
Getting your name wrong - my apologies, but be in no doubt that a week Monday, after you have led the protests against the present regime, you will have the respect of all Evertonians and they will all (including me) remember your name.
Obviously, if you bottle out, your name will still be remembered, but it'll be more along the lines - 'Remember that Damian Wilde, came on TW giving Evertonians down the banks for not protesting, but when it was suggested he lead a protest, he shit out"
(could you let us all know a) what time your protest will begin? b) how we will recognise you? c) should we all follow you to the directors box or do you want some of us to head to the technical area?)
135 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:31:46
136 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:59:46
The club will have decided for him to see out the remainder of the season and perhaps he'll make a quiet exit at the end of the match next weekend to avoid any hatred and abuse.
We'll soon see what unfolds and how accurate this information is by this 'administrator'.
137 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:07:21
Yeah, yeah, never mind the deflection, in post 109, you gave it - 'Our crowd in the main are weak and accept mediocrity. They'll be too busy clapping a five yard pass...' etc bollocks waffle.
So I ask you again, what are you doing?
(clue: fuck all)
138 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:17:21
.
But I reckon we'll be sound as your 'zany' and 'intellectualizing' posts are apparently read by Bill and they have puzzled him so much, he got confused and has agreed to sack Bobby.
So it seems you haven't done 'fuck all'. Well in old chap.
139 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:22:36
Like I said yesterday, we are an ex-team, a shadow, a figment of our imagination.
140 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:28:21
141 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:48:45
142 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:51:12
With the Awards Night on Thursday, Kenwright is losing space to manoeuvre - he cant wait until after Sunderland game as it will completely ruin the Awards Night, he cant announce after the Awards Night as he will lose all credibility after hosting a night where he's bound to have to mention Martinez's season.
So its tomorrow - he will hand over reins to Joe or Unsy so they can get the Sunderland game planned and Kenwright will receive the plaudits on Thursday and after the Norwich game.
143 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:58:17
144 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:59:03
145 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:03:47
146 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:09:24
147 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:10:27
That was it?
That sounds weak and mediocre. What were you doing for the rest of the game, clapping a five yard passes? Sounds like you 'haven't got the arse.'
You add 'But I reckon we'll be sound as your 'zany' and 'intellectualizing' posts are apparently read by Bill and they have puzzled him so much, he got confused and has agreed to sack Bobby. So it seems you haven't done 'fuck all'. Well in old chap'
You're right, I haven't 'done fuck all', but there's no pressure on me to do anything as it wasn't me giving it the Chuck Norris and posting shite about how weak Evertonians are.
148 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:10:38
Martinez is a Catalan Vampire who has sucked the life-force out of once great club, our team and its supporters.
Anyone got a very sharp, wooden stake?
149 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:10:39
And it's not just the English fans, I'm a Toffee fan in Brazil. I have pride and passion for our blue shirt. Bill, you must leave the direction of our team. EVERTON BELONGS TO THE FANS, it does not belong to the shareholders and bureaucrats. Respect our immense crowd ... COYB.
150 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:16:49
I hope so although he goes on to say there are rumors that BK plans to keep RM regardless of the discontent. From that remark, I'm assuming he hasn't heard anything directly from the horse's mouth. If BKs mind has gone, we may need to get someone to pretend to be RM and ask to be sacked.
151 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:25:21
152 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:27:59
153 Posted 08/05/2016 at 22:06:03
Still makes the hair stand up all over my body...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p71DzBVSmcI
154 Posted 08/05/2016 at 23:59:01
155 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:17:15
156 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:24:15
157 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:30:02
In this case, you.
So when it became clear that you haven't been part of organising any protest (and bottled out of my challenge to organise one) it also became clear that you don't have the credentials to criticise or question other blues about their commitment.
That you don't like me pointing this isn't surprising, but concerns me not one jot.
158 Posted 09/05/2016 at 11:34:23
159 Posted 09/05/2016 at 20:47:55
160 Posted 10/05/2016 at 20:03:49
It's an outrage that you had to sing "Roberto Martinez get out of our club" alone. . Nobody joined in ? . .Nobody ? . . really cant think why.
Perhaps if you strip down to your bills and shout "you don't know what you're doing" tomorrow night. . . Thats bound to do the trick
161 Posted 10/05/2016 at 20:07:33
162 Posted 10/05/2016 at 20:19:00
There are lots of things Evertonians can do, to show they don't accept mediocrity. Take you for an example . . all you would need to do is to stop gushing over chairman who has presided of 20 years of mediocrity.
163 Posted 10/05/2016 at 20:26:50
And though may not be good enough it simply wont get fans riled up as a string of defeats as the odd win here or there placates and 'buys time' for Roberto.
But this is one manager who surely can't be around next season. The fans are just waiting for the inevitable sacking by Bill.
I don't know if I'm being ironic or not with that last point.
164 Posted 10/05/2016 at 20:37:48
166 Posted 10/05/2016 at 21:11:34
Can fans influence a club? In some ways, no. But I think we can have some influence.
As for singing in me bills...although the ladies would I enjoy it, I would lose my job, so no chance!!
167 Posted 11/05/2016 at 13:43:51
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