Liverpool vs Everton

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Will Romelu Lukaku start with the FA Cup semi-final four days away?

“It's the hope that kills you,” as the saying goes but what if you've lost all hope already? It's a rhetorical question that is apt for the collective Evertonian mind on the eve of this season's edition of the Anfield derby. Because, while the all-Merseyside clash has all too often been an exercise in misery for Evertonians since the turn of the century, who can remember a fixture between Liverpool and Everton that was approached with such a mixture of dread, apathy and resignation as this week's has been by Blues fans?

That feeling of numb fatalism isn't being felt universally but it's pervasive enough to be almost tangible as Everton prepare for two fixtures that will be perhaps not quite defining — what has already gone before in the Premier League has already defined quite starkly the continued regression under Roberto Martinez — so much as they will be either damning or up-lifting.

Given the unpredictable nature of local derbies, where the proverbial form book is supposed to go out the window as local pride kicks in, it seems unfathomable that Everton haven't won on Liverpool's turf for almost 17 years. Just three derby wins since 2000. Zero victories at Anfield since the “Kevin Campbell derby”. That bitterly disappointing FA Cup semi-final in 2012…

It's a record that is partly symptomatic of the gulf in resources that has largely existed between the two clubs but one that also speaks to the crushing psychological weight that this fixture has become for Everton Football Club and which Everton fans are forced to examine every time it comes around. It's an ingrained inferiority complex that is never easy to confront but it is especially painful now given how utterly flat the feeling is around the Blues' prospects almost three years into the Martinez project.

And therein lies the supreme irony. It was Martinez who swept into Goodison Park in June 2013 with a new broom of “Sin Miedo”-laden optimism and seemed to banish the “knives to a gunfight” mentality that had become pervasive under his predecessor in fixtures like this that had become daunting exercises for Blues fans.

Two years later, the despondency that hangs over the Blue half of Merseyside this week is completely at odds with how the mood should be going into an FA Cup semi-final, with the prospect of a second trip to Wembley and the shot at a trophy there for the taking. Drifting in mid-table with just nine Premier League wins all season, Everton have been lifeless since that stirring win over Chelsea in the quarter-finals and it's hard to envision where the spark is going to come from based on the performances in the interim.

Perversely, the fact that so many Evertonians have written the derby off — most eyes on squarely on Wembley this weekend — could work in the Blues' favour; perhaps the desperation we've felt in years gone by to get a result on Liverpool's cursed turf has worked against us in a cruel cosmic sense. And yet you just know that when the first whistle blows, those primal instincts coursing through our blue-blooded veins will resurface. It is, indeed, the hope that will kill us!

If form and disillusionment with life under Martinez weren't enough to dampen that hope, however, there's the fact that injuries seem to have caught up with Everton during this congested part of the fixture list, leaving the manager with some difficult decisions to make with the cup semi-final in mind.

Phil Jagielka and Seamus Coleman are ruled out. Tom Cleverley, Aaron Lennon and Leighton Baines are all doubtful. Ross Barkley will probably start despite being named on the bench against Southampton on Saturday and Romelu Lukaku could also play despite playing no part in that 1-1 draw.

Starting both Barkley and Lukaku so soon before a do-or-die FA Cup tie would represent a significant gamble even if they were both healthy but Martinez has to balance the risk of going to Wembley on the back of a defeat in a locally sensitive fixture. Having painted the next two games as “defining” in terms of the season, he can't really afford to lose both — although a win over United would change the complexion temporarily. Furthermore, with Oumar Niasse out of the picture and both Arouna Koné and Leon Osman game but virtually ineffective against Southampton, the manager needs to have those first-choice starters as options.

Bryan Oviedo will be required at left back if Baines doesn't make it but, if not, is one of the alternatives to the injured Coleman at right back along with James McCarthy, Lennon (again, if fit) and youngster Callum Connolly who acquitted himself so well at the weekend. Kevin Mirallas or Gerard Deulofeu's hopes might depend on the fitness of Cleverley, although it's possible that if he doesn't get passed fit that Darron Gibson or Muhamed Besic could be pushed forward and towards the left side of midfield.

Martinez complained this week that his squad — the one that was “too big” in January to accommodate the likes of Aiden McGeady and Gibson as they were listed for loan — has been stretched lately by injuries and suspension and it's true that he will not be going into these important games with anything close to a fully fit squad.

Regardless of the personnel selected, however, few Everton teams have ever lacked the spirit or desire to lift themselves for a derby match with Liverpool. A continuation of the dull, unimaginative and largely ineffective football that his charges have displayed since the cup win over Chelsea would surely condemn Everton to a second Anfield defeat in three seasons.

Because they will meet a Liverpool team enjoying hugely contrasting fortunes now that Jurgen Klopp is a few months into the role and his methods are starting to take hold. The reds are buoyant following their stunning victory over Borussia Dortmund in the Europa League last week, one they followed with a 2-1 win at Bournemouth that keeps both their momentum and quest for European qualification via the league going.

They, too, have a semi-final on their minds but with the likes of Daniel Sturridge and Philippe Coutinho in good form, the shaky confidence they exhibited earlier in the season seems to have ebbed away. Should they find their rhythm and out-match Everton in terms of sheer will to win, then the Blues' back line will have their hands full.

Time is running out for Martinez and his charges to back up the manager's defiant claim that the style of football he is implementing means they “can compete with anyone.” Defeat to Liverpool wouldn't be the end of the world but it would not make for ideal preparation for Wembley which is where the last desperate hopes of a beleaguered fanbase now rest.

Kick-off: 8pm
Referee: Robert Madley
Predicted Line-up: Robles, Connolly, Stones, Funes Mori, Oviedo, Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Barkley, Deulofeu, Lukaku

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Mark Daley
1 Posted 20/04/2016 at 06:35:08
RS have won the last 3 and will be full strength. We are missing Jags and Coleman and Baines isn't guaranteed. 2-0? 3-1? 5-0? A fitting swansong for our manager.

The post-match interview will be a real treat.

Mark Andersson
2 Posted 20/04/2016 at 06:38:50
Fantastic preview, let's see what unfolds. COYB
Marcus Reynolds
4 Posted 20/04/2016 at 06:48:26
I can't bare to watch this. Please make this be another nail in the coffin of Martinez.
Andy Meighan
5 Posted 20/04/2016 at 06:53:39
Not looking forward to this tonight given the form we are in but the only chink in the armour for them is the fact that they do concede. OK, we've been poor creatively recently but most definitely these can be got at.

You mention these 2 games could define the manager's future. Say we lose comfortably tonight and in the semi then I assume most think he'll be history at the end of the season. That's not going to happen.

In fact, I heard a story yesterday that two fans met Kenwright on the train last week and asked him if he's going, to which he replied, "no chance, he's been unlucky this season."

If that's true we are well and truly doomed.

Geoff Freeman
6 Posted 20/04/2016 at 06:54:24
Jon, Could not agree more.
Lyndon Lloyd
7 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:04:29
Andy (5), the tweets related to that meeting on the train with Kenwright and Moshiri were covered by NSNO who added that what the lad reported tallied with what they had heard from their sources within the club.

Taking the exchange on the train on its own, there are a few ways to look at it, the most obvious being that Bill is hardly likely to talk openly in public about a lack of faith in his manager or any temptation to sack him.

Another is that Moshiri ultimately holds sway, even if he only has a seat on the board by proxy, and if he feels strongly that Martinez has to go, then surely that's what will happen in the summer if things go badly awry between now and the end of the season.

In terms of the next two games, if we lose both then the clamour from supporters will become very hard to ignore. Whether that has any effect on the hierarchy's plans would remain to be seen.

Kunal Desai
8 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:18:21
When asked by a reporter yesterday if he feels under pressure and if the board have spoken to him about his position, he said it's a results based business. I imagine he already knows his fate...
Kieran Fitzgerald
9 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:21:00
I don't think morale could get an lower at the moment. Why not play some of the younger players. If we get beaten we get beaten. Having some young eager players around the squad that are getting game time might give the whole place a lift.
Paul Smith
10 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:27:44
Always look forward to the Derby irrespective of form or context. We should see some desire and fight from the boys tonight – still, up against a rejuvenated Liverpool could be tough!
Nev Renshaw
11 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:38:10
The only plus we've got going for us in tonight's fixture is that it's an away game and we seem to put more effort into away games. COYB.
Matt Traynor
12 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:44:40
How ironic in the earlier fixture we were confident of beating them, and it proved to be their manager's last game, despite a draw (and in reality we were fortunate).

Rodgers knew his time was up before the game. That's why he wore a black tie, rather than the customary red.

No club wants to become a revolving door for managers – unless you are Chelsea, that normally only leads to longer term problems. However a well-run club will decide to replace it's manager, find the next person whilst leaving the incumbent in the role, and then make the change.

My fear is Kenwright is so desperate to be loved by all who work for him, his natural inclination is to give him more time – then as Newcastle may find out, making the change and bringing the "right" man in may be too little too late.

We could win all our remaining fixtures, thereby lifting silverware, and I don't think it would change the groundswell of opinion now.

Bob Cumiskey
13 Posted 20/04/2016 at 07:59:53
Come on blue boys, have a real go tonight and send us to Wembley on a high. I was worried sick about this game but as the week has progressed and having listened and read some of the rhetoric coming out of the dark side, the more confident I am becoming of getting a result.

They are far from invincible and very beatable in my opinion and whilst I appreciate our form in the league hasn't been great we are safe with no threat of relegation and should just go out and play with no fear.

For us fans who are there tonight we need to put aside the Martinez out feelings and sing our hearts out. You just never know, but yes Lyndon, it is the hope that kills you!!

We've been up shit creek many times in my 40 years of watching the blues and we have surprised a few teams when our backs have been against the wall, so come on let's try and enjoy the day and remain positive!!! COYB!!

(Takes another blast on his crack pipe and dreams of a derby win!!!)

Jim Bennings
14 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:04:05
Don't know why people think if we rest half a team tonight it's going to make us fresher and play better at Wembley.

We have had two week breaks this season and came back after the rest looking as jaded as we would after three games in a week.

Put simply, if we lose these two matches then there is no going back for Martinez and many of these players.

Whoever sets foot on the pitch tonight should NOT need to be motivated by anyone else for a Merseyside derby.

If there are any shrinking violets in blue tonight then they should never be seen in a blue shirt again and offloaded in the summer.

We have a disgusting record against Liverpool and defeat tonight will put enormous pressure on them to pull out a performance on Saturday that to be honest at the minute I don't think the team is capable of.

It will be interesting to see how many times we cross the halfway line tonight and how many shots we register on target considering we have scored about 5 goals in 13 visits to Anfield and such is our usual timid nature of approaching derbies.

Mike Green
15 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:04:17
I can't remember being so disinterested in a derby match, to the extent that I've told Reds at work I doubt I'll even watch it. But I will obviously, probably through my fingers though.

Martinez and the team seem to have put us in a weird state of limbo where our season feels over despite having the best chance of winning silverware in decades. To be feeling like that on the cusp of a derby game and Cup Semi in the space of four days can only prove there's something deeply wrong.

To be honest I think the issue has been forced by the Moshiri money.

Our expectations have been lifted but I think it's completely undermined what confidence the players and Martinez had (waiting for the hammer to fall), leading to shocking form, which has gone against the grain of how we think we should be performing and has heaped further pressure on the team.

It's a vicious circle which I think will only be broken now by either a huge change in form and a Cup win or the removal of the manager. I am expecting the latter to be the case and don't expect this to go away until Moshiri puts his cards on the table, which won't be until the end of the season.

So, let's pull our socks up, get through these games, get a Cup in the cabinet and see how the chips fall from there. No matter what happens we need action from the top to take the club forward though, they have caused the situation, now they need to fix it.

Ged Simpson
17 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:09:14
I know what you mean, Jon, but we do care about tonight. I've tried the "I don't care anymore" line bit I know and everyone else knows I care about every game.
Ged Simpson
18 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:13:13
God, that corresponding fixture seems so long ago. Love to re-read the thread before that one again?
Rob Hooton
19 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:14:58
Dreading tonight but will be down the ale house with me arl fella hoping we can turn in a couple of long overdue decent performances.

Surely they can't serve up more of the same shite and our 'big' players have done nothing lately so owe us big time.

Dermot O'Brien
20 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:18:47
The general consensus is: we might lose, so let's not even try to win. Let's go out there, pull down our pants and bend over. A loss is okay because it will help RM out the door.

FFS!!! What is wrong with people? Everton – get out there and batter the fucking shite out of them. If we lose we lose but we're taking a good few of those cunts down with us.

Alan Humphreys
21 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:22:13
Grateful I got rid of Sky but momentum is everything as the RS are currently showing. Win or lose, we need a performance to build on.

Roll on Wembley!

Phil Walling
23 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:27:06
Discussing tonight's match on Talk Sport this morning, Alan Brazil said that Roberto's win % over his three seasons is actually better than that of Moyes over the equivalent period. Apparently, it's due to the Catalan's superior expertise with cup-ties.

So, perhaps, even if we get nowt tonight (I've put a 'brown un' on the draw at 13/4) our manager will see us through to the Final.

Here's hoping anyway!

Matt Traynor
24 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:32:05
Phil #23, on Radio 5 this morning they said (I think league only) it was 55%, 31%, 27% (so far) for his 3 seasons.

They also had Michael Ball on, who mentioned he goes to every game, and suggested he, like the rest of the crowd, is bored shitless with the tippy tappy (don't) keep ball.

Keith Edmunds
25 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:39:46
Play the full team. The glow from winning at Anfield will get me through a semi-final disappointment.
Simon Jones
26 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:42:52
I hate derbies. I expect my dark side neighbour will be yelling at his TV every two minutes. Doesn't he know you are supposed to watch these games in respectful silence?
Sam Hoare
27 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:48:06
So strange to be in a position where there are two games to win that would go a long way to putting some smiles back on our faces and yet in winning them we would very possibly be keeping the man who has eradicated the smiles in the first place.

I would give some youngsters a crack tonight. Not because of resting players for the semi but because I think they seem the only ones who really deserve it. Its hard to pick more than 3 players who have been playing with any heart or form for the last month. Funes Mori, Robles, Lennon and maybe Stones and Barry at a push?

Luckily both the derby and the cup seem to provide a platform on which previous form goes out the window and as such a potential release for the players. I fully expect to see a much more energised performance. I'll take a last minute equaliser in the derby and a tight win in the cup please.

Jay Woods
28 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:49:56
It's the biggest myth in football that form goes out the window for derbies. Just go back through our derby record against LFC since their rise to pre-eminence. Even in their decline they have had the edge, thanks to superior funding from a fanbase built up and carried on from their golden age.

Anyway, it hardly matters. Win, lose or draw, the most discredited manager in Everton's modern history will still be at the helm come Saturday. For me, that's the bigger concern.

Phil Walling
29 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:54:15
Matt @ #24; Just had a glance at the record books and it looks like – as usual – Brazil was talking bollox!

Moyes's record for his first three full seasons was 45%, 24% and 47%.

Lesson learned = NEVER trust TS!

Les Martin
30 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:56:20
Lyndon, a great preview. And indeed the defining end to our season.

In Lukaku we always have a punchers chance, but we need to give him chances; with this in mind, I hope Ross is never more than 10 yards away from him.

The fallout from the next two games is what really interests me. COYB's

Martin Nicholls
31 Posted 20/04/2016 at 08:58:06
Simon Jones - I suggest you tell him he should be watching a home game from the stands, not from his couch. In what tangible way does he and his like actually SUPPORT "his" team?
Nicky Styles
32 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:01:55
For me, all negativity is put to the side for the game to tonight. Though I don't post too often here, I have been very vocal on other sites about the frustrations we are all feeling BUT against Liverpool at Anfield I am 100% behind team and manager and wish all involved the best of luck this evening.

Unlike some Blues, I don't hate Liverpool, don't even dislike them to be honest, but it would mean the world to me, nevertheless, if we could do what we haven't done for nearly 20 years and beat them over there.


Eugene Ruane
33 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:10:19
The city's all ours!

I've been defending our city (the blue version) all morning.

All that x-box 'call of duty' stuff too hard for me - this is my idea of a game, saving the lives of Evertonians in the city.


(there's a red and neutral version on there so you can compare scores with chums etc)

By the way, I'm shite and games so you all died about 50 times this morning.

Steve Alderson
34 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:10:55
Jon – (#3). We would only be kidding ourselves that tonight's game doesn't count because we are saving ourselves for Saturday.

As always this is a very important game to Liverpool's fans. Their players understand that, respond accordingly, and we habitually lose.

I've said it before, when we can match Liverpool will to win, and not just in the derby games, then we might start to match their achievements.

Scott Hamilton
35 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:18:08
I think one of the most telling aspects is that not only does it seem unlikely that we'll win tonight's game, it seems impossible.

We've experienced some dark days as blues but I can't remember a derby where I didn't think we at least had a chance.

Martin Nicholls
36 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:24:03
Steve Alderson,

I agree. Responsibility for sending out a team with the will to win rests with the management team – if they can't instil it in those players at their disposal then such players should be replaced with ones with the required will.

Failure to do either should result in replacement of the management team itself. Will to win and fitness are the two most important elements of a winning team – failure by our current crop of skilled individuals proves the point. All that said, COYB!!

Stephen Karnes
37 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:31:14
First Merseyside Derby I won't watch in a very long time. For me, the result is irrelevant at this juncture (easier for me as I don't live in Liverpool). I obviously want Everton to win, but the damage is done and a victory tonight won't change anything about this season for me.
Phil Walling
38 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:41:03
I think I'm right in saying that since the Reds returned to the top division in the early sixties only Catterick (2), Howard (2), Royle and Smith (1 each) have pulled off a league win over there.

That's a paltry SIX wins in over FIFTY years so little blame can attach to Roberto if we don't pull it off tonight. (But it will, of course!)

Barry Pearce
39 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:42:51
Good post sam#37.

I think that's how a lot of us feel.

Gareth Clark
40 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:54:05
I hope for the following line-up:

Connolly, Stones, Funes Mori, Galloway;
Besic, McCarthy;
Deulofeu, Dowell, Oviedo;

Along with a good few youngsters on the bench (Holgate, Foulds, Henen, etc).

I'd rest Lukaku, Barkley, Lennon, Mirallas and Barry – and give Dowell a well deserved debut.

While also giving Howard a last derby day.

Colin Glassar
41 Posted 20/04/2016 at 09:58:49
As the song says, "This could be heaven or this could be hell". I hope it's the former but I fear it will be the latter tonight.
Andy Meighan
42 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:05:51
Lyndon, I didn't realise it had been covered. But you are right, lose these two and the clamour will continue for him to go and rightly so. I just hope they don't embarrass us tonight. Saturday will take care of itself.
Mike Green
43 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:09:00
Well Colin, you have to wait and see – you can check out a anytime but you can never leave...
Ian Burns
44 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:09:55
Great piece, Lyndon, sums up eloquently the feeling on the blue half of the Mersey – more's the pity.

I suggested in one post a few days ago that in some ways tonight's game couldn't come at a better time (howls of derision I know!). The team needs something to give them some impetus prior to Wembley and "just another league game" wouldn't cut the mustard – but tonight's game is a totally different kettle of fish.

The occasion simply demands that we turn up and fight our corner, the very injection of some much needed chemistry is a must and a top performance will carry them though to Wembley in the right frame of mind.

At least that's the theory.

Damian Wilde
45 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:25:26
Very well written article as always Lyndon. Our record at Anfield – wow, what a disgrace.

As for the rumours about RM staying at the helm even if we lose both games, I just can't see it. Maybe that's BK's idea, but the fans will turn I think. The only think that has stopped them doing such so far is our cup run. But I would love to win both, especially Saturday;, we're all desperate to win a trophy to repay the thousands of travelled miles, wads of cash spent and the emotion we invest in them, we just want a trophy. It'd be beautiful.

Kunal, 'results based business' – but according to RM it's not about results, but 'performances'! Mind you, both have been woeful.

Matt, glad Ball said that. I am also very 'bored' of the slow passing game we play.

As for tonight, give a few youngsters a go as on Saturday, they really put themselves about, some heart in their display; prob. because they haven't been as exposed to the Martinez bullshit.

Would love to do the RS, COYB, give us something to cheer about!

Terence Tyler
46 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:26:43
Just get a sick feeling when I think about this game. Not just about the end result that might happen, but how they have turned everything round at their club within such a short time when we seemed to have gone backwards.

The type of football Martinez wants his teams to play for me has now been found to be flawed. hence Leicester and Spurs at the top of the league and not the tippy tappy purist type played by Man city and Arsenal.

Even Barcelona seem to have been found out now, if there latest results are anything to go buy. Up and at them high intensity game has now been proved to be the way forward, if anybody has any doubts about it then just watch tonight's game.

Steve Woods
47 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:27:06
I hope the new owner will abolish the cosy deal that Liverpool have had in place in recent years whereby we always have to play away to them in the second half of the season.
Colin Williams
48 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:39:54
There is very little technical ability difference between most Premier League players. The secret formula is, creating a special environment within the group, making them feel invincible on the grass; giving each player belief they can perform against anyone!!

Yes, tactical expertise can influence a game... but give me a manager / coach with real motivational skills and understands the game – goes to war with you every game, a manager players look up to, and respect... That's when you know you can beat anyone!!

Sadly we have a manager who struggles to hide his shameful weaknesses and pretends to be in control of this magical, special football club.

Dreaming that our club will employ a manager, who doesn't hide behind a philosophy that looks great on paper but a manager who Leads by example, shows his feelings, gets everybody on-board; and makes every player feel they are invincible when they play for this great club!!! Martinez Out!

Tony Abrahams
49 Posted 20/04/2016 at 10:49:13
Hope to wake up tomorrow morning singing "What a difference a day makes".

If we try and play the game in their half, and get bodies round Lukaku, we will win!

Eric Myles
50 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:11:19
Steve #48, I've read before on this site that it's because that's the way WE requested it
Duncan McDine
51 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:14:27
We're going to win today. I have no reason to feel this way, but I do. COYB
Anthony Burke
52 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:15:25
I'm dreading tonight but fingers crossed we can pull something off. All I want to see is passion fight and pride things we have lacked at Anfield for far too long. COYB!!!!
Laurie Hartley
53 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:21:51
I wouldn't start Deulofeu in this game. Lyndon's line up but with one change – Pienaar for Deulofeu.

We need guile and heart in the middle of the park – put Pienaar in the centre.

Connolly, Stones, Funes Mori, Oviedo,
McCarthy, Barry, Besic,
Barkley, Lukaku.

Bring Osman on for Pienaar after 60 minutes.

The one thing going for us going into this game is that they will think they only have to turn up to win – their smug like that. Let's give it to them.

Up the Blues.

John Crook
54 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:22:26
Its a lose lose scenario for Martinez if he attempts to put out a fairly strong side tonight, then take a hiding, which means players already low in confidence and form become even more unconfident for Saturday. The squad should be utilised to the maximum over the next 2 games. I would go with:

Wednesday (4-3-3), GK Howard, RB Connolly, LB Oviedo, CD Stones CD Funes Mori, CM Osman CM Gibson CM Besic, RW Deulofeu, LW Mirallas, CF Kone

Saturday (4-2-3-1) GK Robles, RB Coleman, CD Jagielka, CD Stones, LB Baines, DCM Barry, DCM McCarty, RW Lennon ACM Barkley LW Cleverly CF Lukaku.

I have assumed that Coleman, Jagielka, Baines, Lennon will all be ok for Saturday. From these 2 teams there is only Stones who needs to play 2 full games.

Paul Conway
55 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:35:34
I have to draw the positives out of this one!

I think Robles is going to be busy, but I think its an excellent opportunity for him and the defence to show their mettle.


Steve Harris
56 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:37:40
Funds Mori 13/1 to score anytime tonight with Paddy Power, Niasse 250/1 to score anytime in the next 3 seasons! Joking apart, why hasn't Martinez been hounded for this more in his press conferences?

I think £13.5 million makes him our third highest signing behind Rom and Fellaini so would reasonably think at that price that he at least could give a kick up the backside to Lukaku and galvanise the team for the remainder of the season but all we hear is that he's not fit cos he's got a bad wrist!!

I can remember Kevin Richardson playing a number of games in the 80s with a cast on his arm and scoring against Villa with it on in the League Cup semi final. Surely Martinez should be quizzed on why, after 3 months at the club, he still reckons he's not fit??

Saying that though, if he comes on tonight and scores the winner, I'll be jumping up and down as much as anybody!!

Colin Oakes
57 Posted 20/04/2016 at 11:55:09
I see the horrible's are today being featured on the BBC news website making 'funny' remakes of movie scenes to promote their summer tour of the USA. I suppose its just another example of how the media look to promote these fuckers at any and every opportunity. How about a major feature all about EFC's outstanding and much vaunted community programs?
Declan Brown
59 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:00:38
Right from the very start of supporting Everton nearly 30 years ago, if there's 2 games every season I dread defeat in it's the Derby's. Defeat in these are much much worse than getting beat by anyone else. I just can't take it and it brings out the worst of rage in me.

Even in the years of our decline (Harvey, Kendall MK2, Walker, Royle, Smith) we never took a bad pasting, no matter how bad we were in ability we always put up a fight and had a bit of pride.

The 1990's gave us a good Derby record (8 games unbeaten at one stage, thanks mainly to Big Joe). But once Moyes got in it all went pear shaped.

Relegation (we nearly there twice remember) seemed better than being beaten twice by that lot every season, being in a different division meant they couldn't beat us (i hope that makes sense).

Our record since Moyes got in is just unbearable, something has to be done about the inferiority complex in the players minds before these games, whether it be the manager's mindset or tactics. It's just not acceptable on any level and has gone on for far too long.

I've a cracking DVD called "Victories over Liverpool". Can the players not watch this in the week building up to the Derby to see what it really means to the fans and what it takes to do it?

Tonight, I'm telling myself "don't watch it, it'll take years off my lifespan...again". But it'll be championship manager on the computer and watching it, swearing, shouting etc etc because I simply can't fathom why a player in our blue shirt isn't going after every one of them like a starving lion going for his next dinner.

If it was me playing my only mindset would be looking forward to booting them all over the park and winning. Nothing else would be good enough. Those ba57@rds bring out the worst in me. A draw stops their slabbering, a win for us keeps them quiet for a while.

And yes, tonight on Championship Manager, I'll be managing Everton. Under Harvey, Kendall and Royle we always knew we had a good chance in the Derby's' how has got to be so bad now?

Brian Harrison
60 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:05:08
This is the most relaxed I have been before a derby ever. I never fancy us at Anfield these days so my expectancy of any sort of result is minimal.

I also think the players have decided that all that matters is the game on Saturday at Wembley. Despite a couple coming out and saying its the players fault for this season, I don't believe many have any faith left in RM. So for them it will be all or nothing at Wembley on Saturday.

Tom Bowers
61 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:10:35
It is understandable that many of us dread today's game all things considered and rightly so. RM could easily compound things by still playing a weakened team along with the absent Coleman and Jagielka.

Notwithstanding that , the form of our strongest team is poor and so it seems the RS will be licking their lips.

We can but hope for a miracle because that is all Martinez is clinging to these days and yet sometimes they do happen. Could this be the only one that happens this season (apart from Rom's goal against Chelski)?

Jimmi James
62 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:16:13
Damian #46, I've said it all along mate, RM will be the boss at the start of next season no matter what happens, I hope to be proved wrong but not holding my breath.

BK really does believe its all down to bad luck this season. Crazy situation. Ah well not long now to heaven or hell. Do I come on TW after I get back from the game? Mmmm... let's see.

Dave Brierley
63 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:17:36
Your eloquence depresses me Lyndon particularly those three little words "dread, apathy and resignation." It's hard to argue with any of those emotions and in all my years of supporting Everton I should have the least hope for any sort of result. Particularly after sitting through the shambles on Saturday it is hard to muster any sort of optimism for tonight.

However, in a perverse sort of way, because everything does seem against us, I have a glimmer of hope that we will not only get a point, but that Lukaku will earn his salary for the first time this month and score a winner in the 91st minute.

It's too early for a vodka so I'm stone cold sober.

Timothy Blanshard
64 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:17:55
Declan Brown @61

I feel exactly the same, in my case it's around 45 years since I started supporting Everton. They must/should know what it means to us.

It saddens me to say this but they do need to see a film of teams from our past and be told, that passion, not to mention any "trick" you can pull out of the bag to win; we should get out and get at them quick – let them know they're in for a hard game.

Scott Hamilton
65 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:23:01
"Thirteen things that will definitely happen in the Merseyside derby tonight"


Peter Roberts
66 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:31:21
Colin (#42)

Martinez's reign could be summed up by the line from Bon Jovi "You promised me heaven but put me through hell."

Andrew Ellams
67 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:32:57
I'm 45 years old and in my lifetime only 4 Everton players have scored in winning matches at Mordor. Says it all really.
Andrew Ellams
68 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:33:49
Can't count, it's 5. But still....
Jamie Crowley
69 Posted 20/04/2016 at 12:59:24
I know throwing Connolly in a derby is piling a lot of pressure on a young man. But I thought the kid acquitted himself so well on the weekend.

I'd play him and tell him to rise to the occasion. I like this kid.

I have a meeting this afternoon with my web / marketing guru so I can't watch. Although this is the least excited I've ever been in my 9 years of bastardized, overseas support for a derby, I'm gutted to have to watch delayed.

7 pm EST with 5 sons and the Mrs watching on the DVR is going to have to do. No barstool in America derby this game.

More's the pity.

I'll say a prayer at 2:45 pm EST.

Surprise us and just fucking win please Everton.

Damian Wilde
70 Posted 20/04/2016 at 13:03:59
Jimmi, I hope not, fella! 'Bad luck' is being stung by the odd freak result. What we all know is that there are 'repeating patterns' – down to poor management.

Scott, love the link! Far too many ted shite pundits.

Craig Walker
72 Posted 20/04/2016 at 13:55:08
Colin #42 – as the same song goes "you can check out any time you like but you can never leave".

I've tried not following derbies or pretending they don't matter but I'll end up kicking every ball thinking "why do we put ourselves through this?" and usually it ends in massive disappointment.

Keith Harrison
73 Posted 20/04/2016 at 14:01:27
As Colin and other Eagles afficionado's have pointed out:-

Relax, Said Roberto,
We are programmed to keep the ball,
I'll still be here talking shite next year,
Even if we win f*ck all..............

Cue Joe Walsh, Glen Frey etc.............

I wish Roberto would just take a Mink DeVille (Spanish Stroll)

Brian Harrison
74 Posted 20/04/2016 at 14:09:23
Just read RMs comments in the Daily Mirror, the guy is delusional to say the least. He suggests that the silent majority of Everton fans understand the tough path of trying to introduce a footballing philosophy, that will lift the ceiling which has prevented Everton from joining the elite.

RM is quoted as saying "if we win the 2 games everything will be fine, if we lose everything will be my fault". He goes on to say "it's about the style of football not how good you are with it." "I will always promote a style that will allow us to compete with any team and not have a roof of the top 7."

He finishes by saying "he has had many more signs that fans can see what we are trying to do and where we are going and that gives us real drive and satisfaction"

As you say BK – "What a manager"!!!!!!.
Denis Richardson
75 Posted 20/04/2016 at 14:15:06
Momentum wise this has a reds victory written all over it. No matter how I look at it I just cannot see us getting even a draw tonight. We're gash at the minute, with no passion and the side is knackered on the hour mark. The likes of Coutinho and Firminho are going to have a field day.

Last 6 league games for us: D3 L3, for them W4 D1 L1.....I just hope we can nick a goal from a corner (Funes Mori?) or a Barkley/Mirallas wonder strike.

Dick Fearon
76 Posted 20/04/2016 at 14:24:55
We should treat Roberto's post match comments for what they are, theatrical comedic performances that bear no relevance to reality.

Only by doing that will his pure genius be recognised.

Victor Jones
77 Posted 20/04/2016 at 14:46:03
So Martinez wants to promote a team that would compete with any team.


So that is why we are sitting mid table or lower...

Thank fuck that we managed to "compete " with Villa.....Sunderland and Newcastle Utd.

What a manager.

Anto Byrne
78 Posted 20/04/2016 at 14:46:12
Forget Martinez; it's up to the players. It's not like half of them don't know how to play the game, even the kids proved that. If by chance we get rolled 4, 5 or 6 goals with a strong side, will the board pull the plug on him?

Personally I think the RedShite will be happy with a 1-0 and will be happy to sit back – while we huff and puff. Losing 1-0 and the board will give him more time; getting thrashed will signal the end and do we risk him for the semi-final? Let's see how it all pans out this evening.

Mike Owen
79 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:00:32
Has anyone told Funes Mori not to jump in the Kop when he scores our 89th-minute winner?

And Lyndon, after reading your preview, I had to check it will be 11 against 11.

Come on the Blues!

David Harrison
80 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:14:09
"Numb fatalism" says it all in a nutshell. I feel that numb fatalism is the best mood I can muster at the moment...
Damian Wilde
81 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:19:52
I read it Brian, unbelievable. Another extract:

"It is about the style of football, not how good you are with that style. I will always promote a style of football that will allow us to compete with any team – and not have a roof of the top seven."

So remember everyone, it's all about 'style' – not how good you are.

People say he is 'nice' is he fuck, he's an arrogant wanker.

Damian Wilde
82 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:23:30
Mark Boulle
83 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:32:18
On holiday in Canada this week. The time difference is 7 hours, so KO is st lunchtime here.

For the first I can remember, not just because I'm on holiday, I'm turning my phone off, ignoring it completely and going to a national park.

I cannot believe how slowly this miserable season seems to be crawling towards the end. Bring on the cricket and Martinez's sacking!

David Barks
84 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:35:34
Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to watch this game today. I just don't know if I can do it.
Shane Corcoran
85 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:42:18
So it's the style that matters, not how good you are with the style but yet he understands it's a results business.

Why play any defenders or a goalkeeper at all?

On a side note, I've always been one for rubbishing blues that think we're harshly treated but I've just noticed that Sky have a headline article on how Liverpool might look next season.

I would fucking love it.

Joe Edwards
86 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:51:56
I am not watching it. I never watch derbies because they just make me ill with nerves.

This one has disaster written all over it and we should play a team almost entirely of youngsters both for this and the FA Cup game.
Patrick Carty
87 Posted 20/04/2016 at 15:57:54
I finished listening to our manager's interviews weeks ago, whats the point?

I just want our player's to give their all tonight and Saturday, and if we lose, so be it.

Dara Vaughan
88 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:03:11
Surely an Everton team, no matter whether it's a "knife to the gunfight" surrender monkey Moyes team, or a listless, aimless Roberto Martinez team, can still get up for an Anfield derby?

That redshite jersey should be a bloody rag to a bull for an Everton player, or I've been following the wrong team for a long time now? A few extra strong tackles, and this Liverpool team which is predominantly made up of spice boys (Coutinho, Firmino, Sturridge, Moreno, Lallana, Origi et al,) can be at the very least be roughed up. We'll get to watch as their self-entitlement fuelled over reaction kicks in, and even give the blues a chance, dare I say.

Please, please a bit of fecking pride and fight, we're not going across the park to make friends now are we?

Brian Porter
89 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:04:25
Going back to BK's supposed comment that Martinez's job is safe and that he's been unlucky this season all I can say is that a Chairman who is willing to write off an entire league season as merely 'bad luck' has no right and no business being in charge of a Premier League football club.

And while he's at it, what's his excuse for last season? Was that just unlucky too?
Neil Gribbin
90 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:07:18
I'm actually looking forward to the fool's post-match rambling.
James Hughes
91 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:11:00
I can't imagine Bill speaking to a couple of strangers and saying
" Roberto, well we've had enough of his incredible footy and he will be gone by the end of Monday 16th May" so maybe just trotting out a yarn.

Anyway I am working tonight will have an eye on the forum for updates so just want to say


Andrew Clare
92 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:11:45
A couple months back although we weren't getting the results mainly because of individual defensive errors letting teams back into the game we were looking as though we would win.

We dominated possession and scored plenty of goals. Now probably because Martinez has adopted a more safety first approach to counter the defensive mistakes we look dreadful. Looking at our last few games there are only two that look like possible wins.

We really need an ambitious charismatic leader to bring our club back. I'm fed up with going into these derby games with dread.

Paul Kossoff
93 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:12:55
I will stay away from radios and TV teletext tonight. My blood pressure is high enough without adding to it.

It will only take one look at my son's face to see what's happened at the game. As usual I have bet him 㿀 we will get beat, the reason for that is I never ever win a bet.

COYB, please.
Damian Wilde
94 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:25:26
A mate said he said something like this in a press conference:

"He was saying Everton hadn't underachieved in the league and that the players weren't exactly challenging for the league title beforehand."

Anyone know if true??

Brian Williams
96 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:43:58
Damian. That's true indeed. Said we defintiely weren't underachieving and (as you said) it's not as if this is a team that has been winning titles in the last 5 years bla bla..........

Should be sacked before tonight's game!!!

That last statement wasn't meant to be taken seriously, at the end of the season will do for me..............JUST!

Stephen Brown
97 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:45:52
Those comments were on TalkSport about 4pm! I nearly crashed the car!!!
Dominic Tonge
99 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:54:16
Boys, I think we are going to win.
There, I said it. 2-0 .
Kev Johnson
100 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:55:47
He's just been quoted as saying we're not underachieving. Oh shite, we're in trouble, we really are. He's lost it.
Colin Glassar
102 Posted 20/04/2016 at 16:59:56
I can't tell you why but I've got a peaceful easy feeling as I think it's going to be one of these nights. I think lying eyes is already gone as he's looking more and more like a desperado.

So, let's take it to the limit as love will keep us alive until we have a new kid in town. As the song says,

We may lose and we may win though
We will never be here again
So open up, I'm climbing in,
So take it easy.


Trevor Peers
104 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:04:55
Roberto's statement's are become increasingly more bizarre, maybe he's already been told he's leaving in the summer ?
He's talking utter shite this week like he doesn't care anymore.
Jim Hardin
105 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:05:00
Is this a site for Everton fans or not? Why should the players take this game more seriously than any other game when a surprisingly large percentage on here don't seem to care enough to want to win. Nonsense about sending out an entire team of young players, protecting other players who are not hurt, etc. What a load of Bullocks!

Send out our best 11 who are fit. No square pegs in round holes either. Start with a 4-3-3 since the Rs won't be expecting it and go out and win this. Besides, our away form has been better this season so why can't we win it?

So, pardon my American optimism but we will win this dammit.

Courtesy of my USWNT's supporters, repeat after me, I believe. . . . I believe that . . . . I believe that we . . . . . I believe that we will . . . I believe that we will win . . . . I believe that we will win. and keep saying it until you can shout it! COYB

Colin Glassar
107 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:07:25
Jim, you need a few days in the Hotel California. Chill mate, it's our way of coping.
Damian Wilde
108 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:10:53
I heard it before in TS. It's like someone said to him "okay Bobby, do your absolute best to piss off the Evertonians as much as you possibly can."

Graham, wouldn't surprise me!

Steavey Buckley
109 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:23:02
This is a good time to 'blood' some of the excellent Everton Under-21s to see if they can step up to the plate. Nothing really to lose, it's very rare these past years for Everton to beat Liverpool anyway.

The idea of Martinez playing the likes of Hibbert, Kone and Osman instead, leaves me wondering why these players are still considered first team material, when they are never going to be good enough anytime now.

Phil Walling
110 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:27:58
We're all at it , seeking out soundbites from Roberto and holding him to ridicule. Only the other day I was harking back to 'the positives' he sought to take from Wigan's 1-9 battering at the hands of Spurs in 2009.

In truth, its all bollox and like any other manager he will ultimately be judged on results. There is NO escape from those. It's just a matter of how long it takes Uncle Bill and Mr 49.9% to take a look at them.

In the meantime, I wish him and the team every good fortune tonight and on Saturday.

Keith Harrison
112 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:36:02
Colin, You can't hide Mick Lyons eyes.
There's gonna be a Heartache Tonight,
For the Redshite,
I know.
Ged Simpson
114 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:41:26
Well I don't care this time. I will take no interest in the game as RM has shattered my beliefs in our so-called big club. Then when it is over I will come on here and admit (again) to being a wassock after we win 2-1 by a 98th-minute penalty.

Mick Hoban
115 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:44:55
Colin (107)

Let's hope that whatever happens this week, the only Eagles song title that needs to be attributed to our present manager is "Already Gone".


Colin Glassar
116 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:47:26
Well I hope there's no heartache tonight guys
Colin Glassar
117 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:49:11
Sorry Rob, you'd already done that. I'll be waiting in the weeds.
Phil Walling
118 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:53:04
Not to mention ' Heartache Tonight' or 'Those Shoes' or even perhaps'Lyin Eyes '.

And, no doubt, by the morning we shall all be hoping to 'Get over it'

Ged Simpson
119 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:53:17
Why don't you come to your senses
You've been passing it sideways far too long
David Midgley
121 Posted 20/04/2016 at 17:54:36
Jim Hardin #110. Yes I'm glad this bunch of players. This worn out bunch of pathetic surrender monkeys, who constantly crash my hopes on the rocks of despair, weren't fighting for us in the last war. Pathetic. There's more spirit in a bottle of liniment.

I've been feeling a bit low over our current situation. The drawer in the kitchen ,with all the sharp knives is locked. Can't find any tablets and I've lost the shilling for the gas cooker.

However, all your comments above have given me a bit of lift. So,as we seem to be having a musical interlude – "help me make it through the night".

Jon Cox
122 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:04:16
When thinking about a song for Roberto "Nothing comes close" than the Moody Blues'

"Go Now"


Michael Penley
123 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:06:11
Can we have a bit of optimism here fellas? Tonight could signal the end of the Martinez regime. Pop open the champagne, and know that if we win, a million RS will feel the pain, and if we lose, a RM will feel it too. Probably.
Colin Glassar
124 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:06:16
Done them Phil (107)
Chris Leyland
125 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:12:32
I make it a rule now never to watch Derbies but I am going to stick it on tonight and watch it with an almost detached attitude almost not really caring and I have never ever said that before about Everton, particularly whenwe are playing those graceless, self-entitled lot from across the Park.

Darren Hind
126 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:12:33
Dear me, Lyndon.

I cant believe you of all people have penned such a gloomy preview. I know you are trying to be realistic, but you're acting out of character. Hope does not kill you, its springs eternal

Sure we are second favourites, but this is a winnable game, they are vulnerable at the back and we have 2-3 players who are likely at any given time to cast of their uninspired performances of late and spark into life.

And what's with the people who say they aren't watching? what are you going to do, listen to Dot Cotton or Emily Bishop?

These are the games we should be relishing, if we cant get up for this what's the point.

If you haven't got a ticket, get a couple of Mahatma`s down your neck, get in front of the telly and burst a few blood vessels.

Give these fuckers nothing.

Darren Hind
127 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:17:47
"And we'll aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang the Kopties one-by-one on the Banks of the Royal Blue Mersey!"
Phil Walling
128 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:19:09
That will learn me to skip a few 'Martinez is the Devil Incarnate' messages before posting, Colin!

But rapidly switching artists, let's hope Neil Diamond can be singing a 'Song Sung Blue' tonight rather than drinking 'Red Red Wine' after tonight's game.

Although, I guess we can sing the former whichever way it goes!

Paul Andrews
129 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:20:08
Darren (#131),

We don't agree on much but I'm with you 100% there. We should go there on the front foot and tear into them.

You are probably like me and wouldn't set foot in that ground. Telly for me and on the vino as we speak.

Liam Reilly
130 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:23:41
Many on here have already lost this tie or want to throw the youngsters in to make the excuses tomorrow easier.

Fuck that; Martinez and each one of these footballers should be playing for their future at the club.

It's guts and pride in the shirt needed tonight and guile on Saturday. Believe.

Gerry Quinn
131 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:24:33
Flooded out here in Houston, rain, not tears – but take a bow, Darren, that's the attitude... gerrrout and show them we are still a team to be reckoned with. You've cheered me up no end.
Phil Walling
132 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:24:52
I trust it's not of THAT colour, Paul!
Mike Powell
133 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:27:20
Let's go and win it. Fuck Martinez, win it for us fans... give us something to shout about for a change. COYBS
Jim Bailey
134 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:29:26
With you on that Paul@ 134
And apologies Phil, but mine is of THAT colour, it's generally stronger so will help numb the pain.
Phil Walling
135 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:34:46
Old pal just rang to tell me you could get as much as 11/2 against an Everton win in Liverpool this afternoon. Home team 7/10. I've already taken the draw at 13/4.

But the bookies don't know everything......or do they?

Rob Hooton
136 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:34:54
I'll either be hungover and miserable tomorrow or hungover and dancing into the office in my Blue Suede Shoes.

Come on Everton, just fuckin' come on, you Blues, and do the business

Denis Richardson
137 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:36:23
Right, off to the pub to watch, at least I'll a have pint (and many others nearby) to cloud what's going to unfold....

This is going to be fun!

Brent Stephens
138 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:43:54
Darren #131 - Emily Bishop for me.

OK, maybe one eye on the game.

Phil Walling
139 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:44:47
I suspect Bill will have told Roberto how much these games mean to Evertonians – especially the local ones and suggested that our strongest available team is fielded. And the manager will take notice!

I've already started on the Famous Grouse (much too important occasion to drink the local piss!) so no driving into Pafos for me. Only problem is that Wigan Woman will be in my ear all night!

Chris Morris
141 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:49:41
'If you analyse the Tottenham game, at half-time we went in at a good moment but in the second half we conceded eight goals in 40 minutes, which is impossible to explain. It's a freak event.'......Roberto post 1 - 9 v Tottenham as Wigan boss. What sort of 'good moment' will we have tonight?
Terence Tyler
142 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:51:24
Yamas Phil
Charlie Lloyd
143 Posted 20/04/2016 at 18:51:45
Apprehensive about tonight but there's still hope inside me.

The teams haven't been announced yet!

Graham Mockford
144 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:01:51
My Betfair account is showing a nice healthy balance of +£400 after a NBA accumulator and more than 3.5 goals in both the Leicester and Spurs games.

Whilst I can't quite be positive enough to take 9/2 on us winning I've gone over 12.5 corners at 7/5 and over 14.5 at 29/10.


Martin Nicholls
145 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:03:05
Not in the jocular mood that many of you guys seem to be in. This is deadly serious and I'm with Darren (131) and Paul (134).

Get into them you Blue Boys – take no prisoners and make us proud. The next game is a always the most important – tonight is the next game. Saturday can look after itself. COYB

Martin Nicholls
146 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:04:19
And Liam (135)!
Jim Lloyd
147 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:05:38
Jim (111) I think if you lived in the City, you'd be like us. In effect, wanting to batter them, wanting to at least give them the fight of their lives but dreading what 10pm might bring! As we've been through it so bloody often!

Never mind though, whatever happens tonight, as long as the players go at them, give them a fight then even if we get beat, the players will get full support of the fans.

I think the worry is (certainly for me) that we don't turn up. I can stand getting beat, they're a good team in top form and we've been through several mangles!

I'll be sitting in the parlour with the radio on and just wishing I'd got several bottles of beer in. Ah well, a nice cup of milky tea does wonders for assorted ailments and attacks of the vapours.

If some of the kids play, there'll be no disgrace on them whatever happens, just get stuck into them and keep your heads up lads.

Charlie Lloyd
148 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:05:38
Strong line up. Big test for Oviedo at RB. Mirallas starts on the left which is good. No Kone not even on the bench! No Connolly on the bench. Actually no defenders on the bench.

They just need to get out there and give it to the RS. I can't expect a win but I demand passion.

Over to the players.

Iain Thomson
149 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:06:10
TalkSport giving it large.... pelters for Martinez!
Dave Lynch
150 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:19:29

Texas Flood (Steve Rae Vaughan)

One of my fave pieces of music.

It's an omen I tell ya...

Paul Tran
152 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:22:00
Will completely miss this one as I'm flying home. Hope to land in Inverness at 9:50, just in time to read about a passionate winning performance. We can beat anyone on our day, they're nothing special. Let's just tear into them for 90 mins and make something happen!
Colin Glassar
153 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:25:41
Paella on the hob, glass of glen morangie with drop of water and listening to Willie Nelson whilst the wife slaves over a hot oven.

I hope I'm pissed before the game starts. Come on Everton, try your best is all we ask for.

Jim Lloyd
154 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:29:35
Ah, bugger it! Sod the milky tea. I'm off out for a couple of bottles of the best "Abbot Ale" I can find. Come you you Blues, give of your best...and I'll drink a toast to yez.
Iain Thomson
155 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:34:53
Moyes punditry... For the love of god...
Iain Thomson
156 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:36:42
Away form is 7th... thats not "very good" you havering ballbag!!!
David Barks
157 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:38:37

It's very good compared to home form.

Iain Thomson
160 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:43:14
David... true.. it's a silver lining I will cling to but it's being over emphasised it's a ton of draws.
Rick Tarleton
161 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:47:13
For me this matters more than Sat.COYB
Phil Hoyle
162 Posted 20/04/2016 at 19:52:17
Positive knob here!!! I am praying for a win tonight following a stuffing of the Mancs on Saturday.

Doesn't change the managerial position but I need to read and see something positive around our great club.


Don Alexander
163 Posted 20/04/2016 at 20:21:18
TalkSport played the Beatles' "Fool on the Hill" tonight behind recordings of Martinez' inane comments. The tide is beginning to turn in the media.
Phil Hoyle
164 Posted 20/04/2016 at 20:27:56
Can we bring Peter Reid and Paul Bracewell on??
Carl Peters
165 Posted 20/04/2016 at 23:48:24
This clueless idiot has to go now, ashamed to be a blue tonight. 4-0 to a RedShite team that are fucking shite... a total fucking disgrace.

Everyone of those players with a blue shirt on tonight with the exception of Funes Mori needs fucking.

Forget the semi – we'll get fucked with this idiot in charge... just get this twat out now before he does any more damage.

Dave Abrahams
166 Posted 21/04/2016 at 00:28:32
Got off the plane at half past eleven, prayed silently in the taxi home, willed them to win, I must be round the bend, four fuckin nil, roll on Saturday, got to hope haven't we. Haven't read the reports of tonight's game yet, it looks like it was as bad as it sounds.

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