No decision on giving Niasse U21s chance

by | 08/04/2016  72 Comments  [Jump to last]

Roberto Martinez says that handing Oumar Niasse an opportunity to build his fitness in Everton's Under-21s side is a consideration but hasn't yet made the decision to do so.

The Senegal striker was signed on 1st February from Lokomotiv Moscow for the third-biggest transfer fee in the Toffees' history but has so far played less than 45 minutes of football spread across half a dozen substitute appearances.

Martinez had put that down to his lack of match fitness following the closure of the Russian league and his initial battles with a wrist problem that apparently required surgery but almost 10 weeks later the 25-year-old is, according to his manager, still only at 50% - 60% of peak condition.

That has raised the prospect of dropping him into David Unsworth's side to build up his fitness and, although Martinez's latest comments suggest that Niasse is struggling to adapt to English football as much as he is to getting back to match readiness.

“Oumar, everyday is a very good day for him in terms of working for longer periods and he's adapting to the level of the British game," the manager told the Liverpool Echo.

“It is too early to see if he needs a game with the under-21s but we will carry on developing his programme as he goes.

“It is important we give him as much as we can because it is not easy to pick up the level with the inactivity he had, with the problem he had with his wrist and, obviously, he is so keen to please and so keen to do things well that sometimes rushes things and sometimes is not the player he is and that's where he needs help.”

The desire to blood Niasse in the Premier League has prolonged Arouna Kone's exile from the first team over the last couple of months but Martinez hints the Ivorian could see more action over the run-in as the manager seeks to arrest a worrying slide in results.

“I think we've got some options,” Martinez said. “Oumar Niasse is still adapting to the competition and probably Arouna Kone has been unfortunate not to have more minutes that he should have.

“But he has been working well and I just feel he is getting ready to help the team again.

“Part of the competition of allowing players to be on the pitch and see where they are. I think Arouna has been a little bit unfortunate he couldn't get more minutes than the ones he has had.”  

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Patrick Murphy
2 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:17:19
I'd prefer it if Kone and Niasse are put in the U-21 squad for the remainder of the season and a couple of youngsters were promoted to the first team squad, they can't be any worse and who knows they may just surpass all expectations.
Ian Ravello
3 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:19:21
This is surely an incredible opportunity to provide Niasse with the valuable experience to edge him closer to demonstrating his phenomenal talent on a world stage.

He is undoubtedly one of the finest players to ever come out of Senegal, and we are blessed to have his unique character within our squad.

I feel that he is now ready to be a key member of our team, further adding to the wonderful chemistry that exists within our squad. He will make an excellent left-back. RM
Peter Larkin
4 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:24:00
In other words he is shite. I can hide him in the reserves and hopefully people will forget about him. Seriously how can a wrist injury make a player 60 percent fit or 40 percent unfit?

The lad has been with us 3 full months with a fucking wrist injury, just sell the lad clearly not up to scratch.

Sam Hoare
5 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:27:50
The curious case of Oumar Niasse. Seems strange that he's not fit yet given that it was only a minor wrist injury. I suspect other things are at play...
Jim Hardin
6 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:35:39
Please, just make it, I mean, him, stop. I am now going out on my ledge to jump, but since it is only two stories off the ground, I won't likely die, but instead will be confined to bed and have to read and hear more from Martinez. This will then likely make me crawl out on the ledge and, well you know how that will end.
Ged Simpson
7 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:38:12
Funny this one. I've no idea if this guy is any good. I feel for him... he's become a pawn in a game. Ugh!
Andrew Clare
8 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:38:46
I seem to remember one of the players commenting that he is a raw talent after one of the first training sessions. From the little we have seen he does look that way.

Hope it works out for him but if not it's a lot of money wasted.

Tony Doran
9 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:40:56
I must admit, a wrist injury is the worst kind of injury when trying to build up your football fitness. All that running, shuttles and leg strengthening exercises play havoc with the wrist. Just ask Jamie Vardy.
David Greenwood
10 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:45:56
If Niasse needs games to get his fitness up, surely he u21's is the perfect opportunity.

If he doesn't get a game, then it does raise some questions as to why not.

My guess would be that Roberto is panicking that a public showing for 70/80 minutes would show that 13.5 million has been utterly thrown away.

Have to agree with Patrick, why no youngsters on the bench. Osman is leaving in the summer, what's the point of him sitting on the bench and not Dowell? At least let Dowell see and experience first team football, he will benefit from this.

Ian McDowell
11 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:46:36
Something about this transfer doesn't seem right. How much scouting have we done on him prior to his arrival? Is he a Martinez signing? I'm baffled by this deal.
Stewart Lowe
12 Posted 08/04/2016 at 18:48:38
If Niasse still isn't fit enough, why wasn't he in the Under-21s immediately? It doesn't make sense....

But then, with Martinez, nothing surprises me.

Brian Porter
14 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:28:07
Our third most expensive signing ever and he can't even get in our U21s? Sounds as if Martinez got his chemistry all wrong with this deal. It's beyond a joke really.

£13.5 million? Russian player of the year? They're having a larf!!! All in the chemistry Roberto! What a manager!! MARTINEZ OUT!

Dave Older
15 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:35:03
Martinez is the true master of waffle huh? I had high hopes for Niasse considering we spent £13.5mill on him.

Something obviously isn't quite right here, I hope he isn't another Lacina Traore. I think we will have to let him have a good summer training camp and see how he goes in the first 6 weeks of the new season. Here's hoping.....

Minik Hansen
16 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:37:09
Uses every excuse to not play him and Koné. Man up and say it straight, Lukaku is first choice, they have to stand further back in line until they prove themselves in training or are needed on the park.
Kevin Judge
17 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:38:22
I agree with Tony Doran here.

How on earth has it taking so long for him to be fit! A wrist injury does not stop anyone getting fit.

I am 53 now I would of been fit in the time Niasse has had.

Definitely something underlining with this signing.

Paul Conway
18 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:40:54
Was Martinez grabbing his ear at different intervals in this interview, like he was in the last video concerning Baines? This gesture is a sure sign of lying, according to body language experts.

I will be looking out for more ear grabbing performances from Señor Martinez and I feel we won't have to wait long.

Barry Kay
19 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:47:36
I seem to remember Kevin Richardson playing with a broken wrist and a certain Gary Lineker and it didn't bother them.

How much utter garbage can one man say is beyond me. I can't take much more. Will someone please please please put this man out of his misery.

Andrew Laird
20 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:54:23
Jim your post reminded me of some British comedy genius by Chris Morris, enjoy;
Colin Glassar
21 Posted 08/04/2016 at 20:59:16
I think you are all misinterpreting Roberto and need to apologise. If you read between the lines you will see he is clearly saying, "I'm a celebrity, get me out of here!!".
Steve Hopkins
22 Posted 08/04/2016 at 21:17:45
On a more positive note, apparently Per Krøldrup is currently on a free transfer and looking for a new club, maybe Niasse could teach him how to head a ball and Per could be his personal fitness coach. Everyone's a winner.
Ray Smith
23 Posted 08/04/2016 at 21:18:20
I think Niasse is being prejudged.

However, Morishi won't allow any more panic/speculative signings.

He will pay for proven talent, and genuine talent.

What future Luke Garbutt and the host of defenders Martinez has bought and farmed out.

Why buy defenders when you don't have a defensive strategy or shut up shop when ahead with 5 mins to go?

Steve Hopkins
24 Posted 08/04/2016 at 21:19:40
When ToffeeWeb went down earlier I genuinely thought Martinez might have gone, I even visited the OS for the first time in about 5 years, it was like Riquelme all over again.....the excitement and then the inevitable let down
Christopher Dover
25 Posted 08/04/2016 at 21:20:19
The desire to blood Niasse in the Premier League has prolonged Arouna Kone's exile from the first team over the last couple of months but Martinez hints the Ivorian could see more action over the run-in as the manager seeks to arrest a worrying slide in results.

So based on above Kone has been denied at least 30 minutes playing time, just think if he had we would now be fourth in the league- from the bottom.

Please can this man be carted away before he drives all of us mad.

Christopher Dover
26 Posted 08/04/2016 at 21:24:33
Steve 24. I like you thought the site had crashed with so many trying to read about his departure.

Disappointed yet again!

Steve Hopkins
27 Posted 08/04/2016 at 21:42:33
Disappointed indeed Chris, story of the last couple of seasons I'm afraid.

Going back to the Official Site after so long has made me think about the way Martinez has changed my relationship with Everton and football. A lot of people have talked about how numb they've become to it all and I couldn't agree more (still remember replacing the TV remote after smashing it to pieces when we lost the 2009 final), this season I found myself chuckling when Howard booted Ayew in slow-mo for the Swansea penalty and was busy cutting my toe nails when United scored on Sunday.

I'm also finding myself watching a lot more of other team's games on TV, particularly Leicester. There was a time when my ridiculously priced Sky Sports package was criminally under used and if Everton lost I never wanted to see or hear about another game for a week otherwise I'd get pissed off and agitated thinking how we'd lost.

Martinez has made me apathetic!!

Edward Wallis
28 Posted 08/04/2016 at 22:14:45
I just put him on You Tube to see if he actually played... he does!!! Looks ok but I know these videos can make anyone look good.

But one strange thing... he had his wrist strapped up in all of the clips. WTF is going on? Why cant he do same for us?

Feel sorry for the guy as in current climate the pressure will build on him as RM management is again questionable!
Andy Crooks
29 Posted 08/04/2016 at 22:18:14
I think Niasse should only be judged after a run in the side. Two late minutes only makes a player look bad and too keen to impress. While Lukaku is fit he might get a chance on the left side and I think with little to play for he needs a chance.
Craig Mills
30 Posted 08/04/2016 at 22:29:36
What a joke – this lad is clearly not ready for the Premier League and it's starting to look like Martinez has brought in a ridiculously expensive misfit. Again the "excuses" Martinez comes out with are cringe worthy and would appear to most as simply – BULLSHIT!!!
Patrick Carty
31 Posted 08/04/2016 at 22:33:18
God, it's getting worse, I can't cope anymore.
Dave Weston
32 Posted 08/04/2016 at 23:06:02
Got to feel sorry for the lad... been given the three bears bullshit by Roberto. He must have told him he was going to be the the main striker but failed to tell him he needs to get into the U21s first. What a joke Martinez is. Roberto, do the honest thing and walk before you are pushed.
Gordon Crawford
33 Posted 08/04/2016 at 23:20:52
Niasse needs a chance to shine and I hope he gets that chance. Whether he is good or not I don't know. But I smell something fishy and it's not coming from my local fish mongers.

The guy said he was raring to go when he signed. And yet Martinez says he isn't fit. If he needs to get fit, then he needs game time. Over to you, Roberto.

James Stewart
34 Posted 08/04/2016 at 23:26:33
Problem is he could stink out in the U21s as well and then the knives would well and truly be out!
Trevor Lynes
35 Posted 08/04/2016 at 23:29:46
He was not an original target and I cannot believe that he was scouted. WHY do we always leave our transfer business so late? It makes no sense when other clubs are buying much earlier.

We missed out on Payet and Shaquiri through being too late and both were worth first team places. We should have bought Delph when he was available.

It seems that Rodriguez and Niasse were poor buys and I do not see Funes Mori as being worth the money so far.

Barry McNally
36 Posted 08/04/2016 at 23:44:33
This gets better! Lukaku must be pissing himself after every training session.
Robin Cannon
37 Posted 09/04/2016 at 02:38:30
Ultimately we don't know anything about Niasse.

While there might be some questions about the Russian League, presumably its Player of the Season with a good scoring record can't be some total incompetent, so I don't buy the "we didn't scout him at all and just realized he's awful".

But hardly feels like he's being managed in a way that might give him a chance. Four or five minutes sub appearances, constant discussion about his failing physical condition, and now this.

Ernie Baywood
38 Posted 09/04/2016 at 03:05:46
His integration isn't being managed at all Robin. He's further from match fitness than he was when he joined us.

There's a good chance that he could be going into pre season having played about an hour of football in 7 months.

After layoffs of that length you're never sure whether you get the same player back.

Dick Fearon
39 Posted 09/04/2016 at 03:50:08
I would put him up for sale as part of a job lot that includes Kone, Osman, Gibson, Hibbert.
Jim Hardin
40 Posted 09/04/2016 at 04:36:59
Andrew #20,

Thanks for the link. I do love Brit humour.

Brian Porter
41 Posted 09/04/2016 at 06:05:39
Trevor Lynes (#35), the only point on which I disagree with you is your comment on Funes Mori. Crap players do NOT get selected for the Argentine national team and he has pretty much established himself there now. If you saw their World Cup qualifier against Chile, you'd have seen just how good he really is.

The problem is, Martinez's defensive set up can make even the best defenders in the world look bloody awful. Martinez has also succeeded in making Russia's player of the year look like a poor, hapless teenager trying to break into the U21s. I doubt Niasse expected it to be like this when he signed in January.

Amit Vithlani
42 Posted 09/04/2016 at 06:19:43
Give the feller a chance. Lets see him start, ideally as centre-forward in the last 3 games of the season.

Playing him in the U21s between now and the last 3 games would be a good move.

What's happened to Henen and Leandro?

Antony Matthews
43 Posted 09/04/2016 at 07:21:09
Maybe he asked Baines what "chemistry" was? And Martinez had already worn out his rack... and given him the "death by the hundred substitution" torture as punishment.

Seems very strange that a he was Player of the Year in Russia and can't get a sniff for more than 5 mins. Something tells me he cacked in Bobby's brown shoes.

Phil Walling
44 Posted 09/04/2016 at 08:21:49
Brett Angell or more Bernie the Bolt? A few games in the U21s should give us the answer!
Andrew Presly
45 Posted 09/04/2016 at 09:11:24
Start him on the left of the 3 behind Lukaku in the next few league games and let's see what he can do.

If he has to shoehorn Cleverley in somewhere then play him centrally next to Barry to give us more creativity through the middle. Really shouldn't though. Besic would be better in there. Another who needs a run of games. McCarthy could do with a break either way, not happening for him.

Anyway, far too early to write off Niasse.

Damian Wilde
46 Posted 09/04/2016 at 09:13:41
U21s? His level is probably U18s – farce. Maybe he'll improve, but I hope we haven't wasted this money as we can't afford to!
Joe Clitherow
47 Posted 09/04/2016 at 09:27:42
Conspiracy theories don't generally cut it with me but the longer this goes on it just makes me wonder about our new Russian connections and whether this is some kind of money laundering scam.

I said I wouldn't judge this lad until I'd seen him for six games, but I am definitely wavering the longer this farce goes on. Was it 12 mins he got against WHU as his longest run? If he can't do anything at all when he is a sub (and he has done absolutely nothing) then clearly he needs reserve games. I don't understand why there is any dithering about "maybe" at all there?

WTF does “It is too early to see if he needs a game with the Under-21s but we will carry on developing his programme as he goes." mean FFS?

That's the kind of meaningless non-specific drivel David Brent comes out with ("making good progress with the report") whilst he is devising game show formats.

Andy Thompson
48 Posted 09/04/2016 at 09:35:39
Whilst I agree we must give the lad a fair chance it is does feel like something isn't quite right here.....? Martinez has quite possibly signed us a 13.5 million turkey and is probably protecting himself from any further ridicule from the fans who would, quite rightly, slaughter him if it is proven this lad can't play!

Why on earth did he sell Naismith who would've contributed so much more – it is simply baffling !? However, like so many others, I no longer care what comes out this inept managers mouth as it is all complete and utter drivel.

Martinez is totally out of his depth and should be put out of his misery as soon as possible so that we can all move on with renewed hope for the next season.

Barry Pearce
49 Posted 09/04/2016 at 09:54:32
This totally scandalous, spending £13.5 million on a player, who may have to play for Under-21s for fitness.

What a load of pure bollocks from Martinez. Please just get rid of this joke of a manager.

He must think Evertonians are as gullible as our board.

Alan J Thompson
50 Posted 09/04/2016 at 10:08:17
Did you all read this article closely and do you clearly understand it and while you were reading it did any of you ask what the other hand was doing?
Phil Walling
51 Posted 09/04/2016 at 10:10:13
I just love conspiracy theories! Was Niasse a Usmanov inspired signing whilst he was putting his best mate forward to take over Everton?
Paul Tran
52 Posted 09/04/2016 at 10:26:49
Paul (18), all the body language experts I've worked with tell me that it's best to look for three 'tells' to accurately judge what people are really thinking.

Absolutely shocking that yet another Martinez signing joins with a fanfare and months later is not playing, apparently not fit, despite the player saying he's fit and raring to go.

McGeady, Atsu, Traore and now Niasse. More ammunition to get him out?

Niall McIlhone
54 Posted 09/04/2016 at 10:56:58
This has been one of the strangest transfers ever seen in my book.

I do think there are some serious and deep-seated issues at Finch Farm as regards the fitness regime, and you only have to look at Leicester City to see how important top fitness coaches are.

Niasse may succeed at our club, I sincerely hope so, but right now this just looks like the latest in a series of very odd scenarios:- Eto'o, Traore etc.

Les Martin
55 Posted 09/04/2016 at 11:08:09
"The Lost Niasse Monster" except the real Nessie is spotted more often!

I am fascinated to see how this story concludes, will he be spotted or sink to the depths like Martinez?

Fran Mitchell
56 Posted 09/04/2016 at 11:43:23
'Tis very odd. I mean, surely if it is fitness rather than an actual injury, he should have been in the U21s from the start. But thinking that it is an idea to do so now, just an idea, seems bizarre and suggests there is something more at play.

It is coming on 2 months....


Phil Walling
57 Posted 09/04/2016 at 12:09:01
I begin to wonder if the 㾹.5M fee was just a made-up figure plucked from thin air!

No club can afford to throw that sort of money at whimsical signings and I can't really believe Roberto signed him on the evidence of YouTube.

Of course, like many managers our man has 'form' as mentioned above. Perhaps all about keeping some agent 'sweet'?

Tom Evans
58 Posted 09/04/2016 at 12:41:45
Just stop it. I have written the guy off as a product of another monumental Everton balls up.

Possibly not the guy's fault himself, but please, no more until he either lines up starting a game, or is quietly allowed to return from whence he came.

Trevor Lynes
59 Posted 09/04/2016 at 12:48:32
I cannot believe why we wait so long to sign players and then appear to make last minute panic buys. Every other club in the Premier League are doing business early and taking the remainder of the window to bed in their new recruits.

We have wasted a lot of money IMO on players like Beckford, Jo, Saha who was bought when past his prime and injury prone, Heitinga, Gibson, Rodriguez and now Niasse. For the money spent on Niasse we could have had a Payet or Delph, each of whom could have come straight into the first team.

Our scouting system seems only capable of bringing in young defenders. I may have to eat my words over Funes Mori but we have for many seasons failed to bring in a decent creative midfielder who can score ten goals a season. Lukaku is our only real goal threat and he looks like leaving us.

How is it that a club like Leicester can find a player like Mahrez? We have never unearthed a gem like him! Leicester have a side of average ability apart from Vardy and Mahrez but by team spirit and hard work they have taken the Premier League by storm.

Teams like West Ham have gone past us in ambition whilst we are still singing about forgotten glories. Our club still has a tremendous following both home and away but the fans are totally frustrated at the club not attempting to live up to their once proud motto.

Moshiri may be the Messiah we have all been waiting for and I sincerely hope that his promise to re-kindle the fire and awaken Everton the sleeping giant comes true!

Jim Hardin
60 Posted 09/04/2016 at 13:19:15

I have an idea for future scouting. Just look at and listen to Wenger and watch the players he passes over as "inconsistent" and then snap them up (Payet) instead of trying to sign away the ones he actually does fancy. Should be worth a couple of good players in the midfield and in attack.

Mark Gardiner
61 Posted 09/04/2016 at 14:03:12
“It is too early to see if he needs a game with the Under-21s but we will carry on developing his programme as he goes."

This is one of the most baffling things that Martinez has ever said. What the hell does he mean, "it's too early" to make a decision? Niasse has been with us since the end of January. If he wasn't fit then then he should have gone straight into the U-21s to get some fitness. Why the hell, when he's been here for three months not being fit is the manager saying it's too early??????

I mean, seriously, what the hell is this idiot doing. How difficult is it to make a decision and why the hell have they been thinking about it for three months and still haven't decided????

This idiot needs to go and go now, please let this nightmare be over.

Jimmy Sørheim
62 Posted 09/04/2016 at 17:40:59
To be clear this guy never made it at Brann FK in Norway, so I truly think he will need the pre-season to get a true picture of his true quality.

I think Martinez is saying that Niasse arrived so unfit that he will not risk him playing for the U-21.

The U-21 side are already fit, and putting Niasse there will only exspose

John Codling
63 Posted 09/04/2016 at 19:25:26
Please end this nightmare and sack this Spanish twat.
Barry Johnson
64 Posted 09/04/2016 at 20:15:28
It looks as if Oumar Niasse is the new Per Krøldrup. £13.5M for a player who can't play in the premier league? I hope they take that out of Roberto's salary when they fire his ass.
Tony Hill
65 Posted 09/04/2016 at 20:44:33
My brother-in-law who lives in Russia watched him quite a bit with Lokomotiv and told me when we signed him that he's a good, very quick player with a powerful right foot. I have a hunch he'll become an asset.

That said, anything is possible with Everton at the moment and he could just as easily sink like a stone.

Allan Board
66 Posted 09/04/2016 at 20:46:15
Is there any logical reason for any of us to be surprised by this? I'm getting seriously angry at the club's failure to act now for the good of its fans.

Seems to me Kenwright is as bigger bullshit merchant as the twat in the brown shoes. The fuckers in power are a disgraceful excuse of management.

Karl Masters
67 Posted 09/04/2016 at 21:08:51
Trevor Lynes – Beckford cost us nothing, scored a dozen goals including a couple worldies against Blackpool and Chelsea in a season and we sold him for £4m. Hardly a disaster!!

And Saha is one of the most complete forwards we ever had. Okay, not always fit, but cost nothing, was on a pay as you play part contract and scored plenty of goals. Some real class goals too, a forward who truly had it all, albeit we got him fairly late in his career, but we got 3 good seasons out of him.

Zahir Jaffer
68 Posted 09/04/2016 at 21:19:21
The Russian league is worse than the Championship, I'd rather get players from the Chinese league than that shithole.

At least our Swiss kid, Tarashaj, is improving as he's not being exposed to RM's bullshit. Add Luke Garbutt to that list too.

Our Under-21s would embarrass Niasse and he'd probably have to hang up his boots if he kicked a ball around with them.

Charlie Lloyd
69 Posted 09/04/2016 at 21:54:44
From what has been seen, admittedly fleetingly, this signing is a worry.

The cameo against Man U reminded me of that lad who duped Southampton into signing him and appeared in one game. I think he was Egyptian.

The latest talk from Martinez is complete waffle. A £13.5 mill signing should be somewhere close to sharpness after several weeks. Over two months since signing and we are still waiting to see a footballer.

Damian Wilde
70 Posted 09/04/2016 at 21:57:51
Karl, agree, Saha was absolute class. This kid won't get anywhere near him.
Robert Duncombe
71 Posted 09/04/2016 at 22:25:19
Saha was rock hard... a wicked player. I say play Niasse from kick-off. All our players are poor at the moment anyway. Our league position means jack shit. If he is poor, then he will not look out of place with our lot. He didn't get a chance today. Give him a chance against Palace.
Lee Gray
72 Posted 10/04/2016 at 11:36:13
Saha one of the most complete forwards we EVER wonder were in the shit....
Andrew James
73 Posted 11/04/2016 at 00:33:53
For me it went wrong when the Yak got injured and AJ was nailed by Wenger.

Lukaku has been the best forward since Sharp. I always loved Rideout....and Amo and Cahill but they don't score like Lukaku.

Jim Hardin
74 Posted 11/04/2016 at 02:52:30
Taking the advice of one poster, I reread the article from my perch on my ledge. If he was hinting at what I think he was, then it means Kone is coming back into the line-up. Time to jump.
Phil Walling
75 Posted 11/04/2016 at 08:37:31
I, too, re-read the thread but moved even nearer to the edge.

How can the manager be considering and us be debating whether, after nearly three months, a £13.5 million signing is fit/good enough to be included in the bleeding Under 21s?

The world of Everton is mad.

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