Ratcliffe: Baines was right but if he still had to apologise why didn't Lukaku?

07/04/2016  17 Comments  [Jump to last]

In his latest column for the Echo, Kevin Ratcliffe echoes the thoughts of many supporters questioning why Roberto Martinez made such an issue of Leighton Baines's recent comments but kept any discussion he had with Romelu Lukaku regarding his own quotes in the press behind closed doors:

I don't think Leighton Baines should have had to apologise for his comments about Everton lacking chemistry at the moment.

It seems to me that Leighton has had to say sorry for simply telling the truth.

I wonder whether Romelu Lukaku has apologised for what he said on international duty when he spoke about wanting to play in the Champions League next season?

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Craig Mills
1 Posted 07/04/2016 at 00:06:55
Martinez has clearly lost the dressing room and respect of some, if not all the players. Coming out all guns blazing and probably humiliating Baines today, but a week ago there wasn't even a mentioning about Lukaku shouting his mouth off about how he's ready for Champions League next season.

Although I don't like the man, Chris Sutton called it perfect about Martinez, "always looking to blame someone else for his own short comings", mark my words he will be gone very soon from what I was told today, and the man been lined up to replace him.... Eddie Howe

Paul Hewitt
2 Posted 08/04/2016 at 00:09:54
Edie Howe? Bloody hope not.
Andy Crooks
3 Posted 08/04/2016 at 00:16:02
Craig, not Eddie Howe. He is Martinez Mk II. Anyway, we can win the cup if Martinez is sacked. It would be merciful to pay off this sad, demented, talentless, bewildered specimen.

Surely our club have a duty of care and are obliged to spare him public humiliation. He deserves a pay off because he will never work again. What club, other than Everton, would tolerate this inept, vain, arrogant utter prick.
Paul Hughes
4 Posted 08/04/2016 at 00:16:38
I'm not a regular poster but read TW daily and STH. I have been a long time supporter of Martinez but my patience has has worn thin enough to agree with Craig at post #1. Enough is enough and I'll take Eddie Howe in a heartbeat.
Brian Porter
6 Posted 08/04/2016 at 00:40:22
See the other thread on this subject where over 250 have already posted, 99% in favour of Leighton Baines, about one person defended Martinez. The fake manager has overstepped the mark and has now probably lost the team as well as the fans and any support he may have retained in the local press. He has shown himself to be a mean, nasty minded, vindictive dictator with delusions of grandeur and MUST be sacked, sooner rather than later. "What a manager" eh, BK?
Christine Foster
7 Posted 08/04/2016 at 01:44:08
Could be that Lukaku has a deal in that, if we don't make the Champions League, he can leave... and the man who made it is... ??? Hard to have a go in public about Lukaku if you have already sanctioned his departure.

Or... Could it be that he thought Baines's comments reflected badly on him personally and that was more important than criticism of Lukaku?

Take your pick; not many others reasons are there?

Victor Jones
8 Posted 08/04/2016 at 06:34:48
Everton need to give Martinez the sack, ASAP. Get in a top manager, who might just persuade our top players to stay. Otherwise, Lukaku is gone.

Picture this scenario: we sell Lukaku... Stones... and maybe Barkley. Martinez then promotes Kone and talks up Niasse and he brings in reported targets, Nani and Carrick. FFS, we will be relegation fodder next season. Supporting this Everton team under Martinez is like living in the twilight zone... will this nightmare ever end????

Kudos to Baines, he told it as it is. Shame that Martinez has not got the gumption to change anything... and I doubt that he will ever change anything. One-trick ponies never change.

Michael Penley
9 Posted 08/04/2016 at 07:07:40
Isn't it obvious? Lukaku's comments had nothing to do with Roberto's managerial prowess, while Leighton's called it into question. If Martinez was secure in the knowledge that his teams have "chemistry", he wouldn't try to hide that fact from the public.
Jim Bennings
10 Posted 08/04/2016 at 07:21:42
Shift him and get a manager with worldly knowledge and someone the players and fans will listen to and respect.

Liverpool weren't sentimental when it came to firing Rodgers, they didn't sit there and wait because he nearly won them the league, they sacked him and hired a man respected throughout Europe, someone who would get his players fit and playing with passion.

I very much doubt that the Everton players respect Martinez anymore, so many have come out public and dropped subtle hints of his failings, from Distin, to Barry, Mirallas and now Baines, there is clearly unrest in our dressing room and I'd consider sacking him before the Semi to give ourselves a fighting chance of winning it.

Let's be brutally honest anyway, how much has getting to the Semi-Final really had to do with Martinez?

We beat two lower league piles of dross, we were lucky at Bournemouth and Chelsea in the Quarter Final was all about Lukaku.

Sack him and get a short term man in to galvanise this bunch. Allow Martinez that Semi-Final and you can safely guarantee he will screw us up royally.

Anthony Dwyer
11 Posted 08/04/2016 at 09:18:18
Spot on, Rats.
Anto Byrne
12 Posted 08/04/2016 at 09:52:08
Caretaker coach Kev Ratcliffe??
Patrick Carty
13 Posted 08/04/2016 at 11:00:08
I think Eddie Howe would be a step up from Martinez... although I think my springer spaniel would also be a step up from Martinez.

We should aim high, pay big money, and go for a proven manager who has won top honours in the game.

Spencer Ramsay
14 Posted 08/04/2016 at 13:57:06
I agree with you Michael at #9 – the comments are completely different. Rom is simply saying he wants Champions League football, something we already know of course. Supposedly that's why he agreed to stay with us for another season to allow for opportunity to arise... which of course it hasn't.

Baines is suggesting there are issues with the chemistry on the pitch which may point to a failing of the players but possibly more the manager due to him not getting the chemistry right.

So Rom's comment is simply an aspiration to progress but Bainsey's is pointing at issues within the team which Martinez has taken negatively (which he should!).

However that said, I don't see why Bainsey should have to apologise. He's simply saying what is plain and evident to most fans right now!!

Oliver Molloy
15 Posted 08/04/2016 at 15:35:25
Who has Baines apologised to exactly? Has anyone read any comment from Baines.

Martinez has just made the mess he's already in a whole lot messier and BIGGER! Even if we were winning football matches it would not matter to me – he is a total bullshitter and I have had enough...

It will only be a matter of time before he's gone.

Scott Robinson
16 Posted 09/04/2016 at 03:30:18
I can't understand the over-reaction to Baines's comments – he said the truth, it was objective and natural when the chips are down. Why make such a big deal out of it?
Gary Ashworth
17 Posted 09/04/2016 at 12:22:21
I agree with Baines's comments. Not many players are speaking the truth. I understand Martinez's view, but Baines made a great point. Baines's comments show he is committed to the team and wants the team to do better.

Lukaku, his agent and his father are making comments that suggest he is better leaving Everton. They are disrespecting the club. He needs to tell his agent to shut up and focus on doing his job here until the last game of the season. That's what great professionals do. He definitely should apologise to the club and the fans.

Paul Tran
18 Posted 09/04/2016 at 14:37:44
Eddie Howe? Compelling case, please. Unless of course we really are the small - minded, unambitious club we say we're not.

If we get him, it'll tell me the Moshiri money is more myth than reality.

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