Baines describes injury frustrations

by | 12/11/2015  26 Comments  [Jump to last]

Leighton Baines has been speaking of his need to be patient through his ankle problems as he nears a return to first-team action.

The defender has finally resumed full training after recovering from a second operation on his ankle when he suffered further ligament damage before the start of the season.

He had made an earlier than expected return to non-competitive action during Everton's pre-season trip to Scotland but broke down in training just two days before the season opener against Watford.

"I did it two days before the Watford game, blocking a shot," Baines told the Liverpool Echo.

"It went numb straight away but I felt a little bit sick in my stomach. There wasn't a great deal of pain but there was numbness when the physio was putting his fingers into it. And then, hours after, it had ballooned up.

"The first operation, the ligaments had gone and he'd had to take off quite a lot of bone and restructure the surface.

"He had to reattach the ligaments but the second time, the repair had snapped but there was also another ligament as well, so that was a case of reattaching that ligament. There was no bone work this time but the timescale is the same."

"If I had just had bone work done then it would have only been six to eight weeks but if you have ligament work done then it's 12."

It's the longest Baines has spent on he sidelines in his career and it explains how it has forced him to accept his situation and work slowly to regain his strength.

He and Roberto Martinez hope he will be fit enough to face Aston Villa on Saturday week but the England international admits it will take weeks before he is back to peak condition.

"It's the longest I've ever had out and I enjoy training and running, maybe a bit too much, but I'd have nine or 10 days off and then I would start running again," Baines continued.

"So the break was forced on me, I couldn't do anything aerobically for six weeks and I've not done that ever.

"So it was a forced break but maybe you start to think it was meant to be, but it is hard to buy into that the second time it happens. But you kind of have to, re-set and take the positives again.

"I've just got to be patient now and not rush and not get frustrated if I'm a bit rusty for a few weeks. I need to take my time."

Quotes sourced from Liverpool Echo

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Andrew James
1 Posted 12/11/2015 at 23:33:38
Leighton is one of our finest characters and players. He, like Seamus, has not been as productive on the attacking side under Roberto.

Over to you Roberto, try setting us up so our only truly top class player makes an impact.

David Hallwood
2 Posted 12/11/2015 at 23:50:07
Putting my blue-tinted glasses on, I think we're a couple of tweaks away from being a top side, getting Bainesy back to add experience and dead ball expertise, is definitely top priority.
Kase Chow
3 Posted 13/11/2015 at 00:55:57
David (#2),

On what basis are we a top side??

We almost never win any game of any weighting and have only won away at the top traditional 4 (Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea) once in 10 years.

I know you have have your blue-tinted specs on but when was the last time we had a 20-game run (never mind a 40-game run) that made you think "We're really good, we can sustain this and we can beat the top clubs because we can withstand injuries to our first XI"

No disrespect but what are you on about?!

Michael Williams
4 Posted 13/11/2015 at 01:47:27
After reading Baines's comments in the papers, it appears he is going to need time to get over the mental fear about his ankle. He is going to need at least few games before he forgets about his injury and plays free and confident.
Craig Fletcher
5 Posted 13/11/2015 at 02:35:10
Kase (3) who pissed on your cornflakes this morning? Jeesh, chill out. David never said we are a top side, his words were "we're a couple of tweaks away from a top side", something I agree with.

Those tweaks to me, being a world-class goalkeeper, and a world-class creative midfielder. Much, much easier said than done though, unfortunately, especially on Everton's budget.

Paul Kelly
6 Posted 13/11/2015 at 02:55:57
Another tweak would be a new manager!
Colin Glassar
7 Posted 13/11/2015 at 07:58:30
New manager, world class goalie, world class No 10 etc... And you'd still get the "we are crap" gang moaning about absolutely everything and anything related to EFC.

Welcome back Bainesy btw.

Kase Chow
8 Posted 13/11/2015 at 09:26:51
Craig (#4),

Fair enough. I just wish we were a top side so badly and wish we would start winning consistently.

Liverpool have their worst team for years and we still can't beat them. We DO have a mentality issue that is bigger than a few tweaks, in my opinion.

Anthony Flack
9 Posted 13/11/2015 at 09:44:08
"Who pissed in your cornflakes" – Craig, a great line; unfortunately, I laughed a bit too hard and covered my laptop in porridge.
Denis Richardson
10 Posted 13/11/2015 at 10:15:55
David 2 - if I had the proverbial pound for everytime I've ready on TW something along the lines of "We're just a couple of tweaks/players/magic beans away from being a top side", I'd have bought the club off BK a long long time ago....

I don't mean to piss on your parade but:

i) We don't have a top 'keeper;
ii) We don't have a top defence (anymore);
iii) We start every match with 7 defensive players (and still concede loads);
iv) We don't have decent backup for Lukaku;
v) There are very few creative players in the squad.

I could go on but you get the picture. I think we need a bit more than just tweaks... but I do admire your optimism (not being sarcastic).

Michael Polley
11 Posted 13/11/2015 at 10:35:18
Good to get him back, but it will take time for his match fitness.

Looking forward to seeing his freekicks going into the back of the net.

Alex Bennett
12 Posted 13/11/2015 at 10:54:15
He felt a little bit sick when it happened, I feel a bit sick reading about it.
Ray Roche
13 Posted 13/11/2015 at 11:19:22
Denis (#9)

"We don't have a top defence (any more)".

I disagree. We have a top class defence with Jagielka, Coleman, Stones, Baines, Funes Mori, all Internationals, and Garbutt, Browning, Galloway and Holgate for the next generation. What we don't have is a top defensive coach or a manager capable of getting the best out of them.

With a couple of additions, a new keeper and creative midfielder, we'd give ANY team a run for their money. It's the thought process at management level that needs sorting out.

Trevor Lynes
14 Posted 13/11/2015 at 11:28:52
Baines is a top pro footballer and is a credit to the club. He along with Jags and hopefully the youngsters at the club could be the backbone of our club for a few seasons yet.

We still need a couple more players of top attacking ability before we can call ourselves a 'top' club. Unfortunately, ever since Moore's reign we have been a club who sells rather than thinking long term. We should have made the same conveyor belt of trophy winning when we were doing well in the past, but we have never had a forward thinking board since the late 60's.

We really need a young, imposing goalkeeper and a proper playmaker with the skill to lift the fans and the whole team. We have had players like that in our illustrious past, players who have guile, can pick a pass, can dribble and score a few goals. Players like Collins and Ball.

Lets hope that our coach's can develop a younger version of Pienaar to dove tail with Baines. The latest signings have been drones eg; Cleverley and Lennon. Funes Mori is a defender so none of these three are going to excite the fans. Barkley reaching his potential seems further away than ever. He is a square peg in a round hole so no one seems to know his best position in the side... he is neither filled with guile nor does he score enough! He should be taking games by the scruff of its neck, but he is fitfull in his ability.

Peter Bell
15 Posted 13/11/2015 at 12:05:23
Ray, that's the best post on TW for a long time. We have the defenders; we just need a defensive coach to coach them.
Pete Edwards
16 Posted 13/11/2015 at 13:02:50
Anthony, maybe that's another one to use: "Who porridged your keyboard?" Haha!!
Denis Richardson
17 Posted 13/11/2015 at 14:36:00
Ray, whether it's the defence or the lack of defensive coaching, I don't know. All I know is that our goals conceded column doesn't look good and hasn't for a while.

Re the players, the likes of Howard, Coleman, Baines and Jagielka and hardly spring chickens. Each of them is an international with multiple years of top flight experience – how much extra coaching exactly do these players need in order to defend properly? Even Stones is now in his 3rd full season so he's hardly a debutant, although a bit green still admittedly.

I can understand the coaching argument with the younger guns like Galloway, Browning and maybe Stones but I don't buy it with the seasoned professionals – they should already know their jobs and if not should not be in the side.

If the tactics employed are however the reasons for our defensive crapness, then that's another discussion. Not practicing corners/set pieces etc...

Harold Matthews
18 Posted 13/11/2015 at 14:40:01
We only have two fit centre backs.
Ray Roche
19 Posted 13/11/2015 at 17:28:34

"seasoned professionals – they should already know their jobs and if not should not be in the side"

So, what you're saying is, any club with a first team of "seasoned professionals" does not need a first team coach, because they will all know what to right. They probably won't need a trainer either, because they've all been trained before, haven't they? Sorry to be so flippant, Denis, but ALL clubs have a first team coach and all teams SHOULD and will be practising various defensive scenarios to combat different opposition tactics as well as set pieces, something that Martinez has declared unnecessary, God only knows why, so to say that they should all know how to defend is, well, a bit flippant.

As for spring chickens, Howard is well past his best, Coleman is slightly older than Ball was when he left, Baines is approaching 31, not a pensioner by today's standards and Jagielka has not shown a drop in form that could be put down to his age. In fact he's been frequently outstanding.

With players of that standard the poor goals against column is down to one thing. Poor defensive set up and poor defensive coaching.

Brent Stephens
20 Posted 13/11/2015 at 17:38:35
Ray #18 - far too rational - cut it out!
Ray Roche
21 Posted 13/11/2015 at 17:48:27
Sorry, Brent, got carried away....
Eddie Dunn
22 Posted 13/11/2015 at 18:56:41
I am afraid that we are a very average side in a relatively poor Premier League.

The trouble with considering the merits of the team is that we tend to look at our younger lads as having "potential" and imagine that, in a year or two, they will cut out the mistakes and improve into the big contenders that we long for. Unfortunately, even if we hang onto these future stars, they don't always develop the way we would hope.

Then we have the veterans, who, one season seem to be staving off the march of time, only to find that, months later, they are over the hill. It is a difficult balancing act for any manager.

The very best teams bed-in young players and gently ease-out old stagers, and the best managers do this relatively seamlessly. Ordinary teams, like ours also try to bring in the young lads and ease-out the old, whilst maintaining our ability to remain ordinary, but not drop too low in our league.

We may well have a good striker, and in Gerri, a good winger. We may have a seasoned, class captain, and possibly another class centre half. The current manager is attempting to move the pieces around to make us a good side. Alas, we remain an enigma.

When we thump chumps like Sunderland, we all get excited, but we will piss in our cornflakes and lose to some shit team soon. I suppose we should just enjoy the good games and resign ourselves to not challenging for the top 4, because under Roberto, we will never get there.

Tony Cheek
23 Posted 13/11/2015 at 19:19:25
Sounds like it was a more serious injury than we thought. It would probably have been career ending 30 years ago, but surgery and treatment have vastly improved since then.

Great to have him back, but want Leighton to be eased in, no hurry, just get back to the player he was. Plenty of "winnable" games coming. So easy does it!
Bobby Thomas
24 Posted 13/11/2015 at 19:39:52
Spot on Ray Roche.
Anthony Dwyer
25 Posted 14/11/2015 at 01:32:18
Great to hear Baines is on his way back but judging on his comments he may well take a few months to get back to his brilliant best.

Kase Chow has a fair point I think, he may have sounded a bit negative but he is right in my opinion.

In order to consider ourselves a top team we need to be one of the top 4 sides in the EPL.

Judging by the past 12-18 months we are a million miles away.

We have some great players and some potentially great players but we have no winning mentality, and too many flaws.

I’ve been trying to not bring Martinez into any of my recent posts as I can’t help but be negative when commenting on him, but here it is anyways.

Sticking with Howard, Naisy, plus Barry and Mccarthy as a pairing will never allow us any major success.

Howard had to be replaced after last seasons performance, Robertos failure to do this has and will continue to cost us.

Although Naisy has been moved to the bench in recent weeks and has done ok this season, missing out on opportunities like the one Norwich presented us with (٦m bid) again proved Roberto is not capable of thinking quickly and acting decisively.

This lack of quick thinking is often brought about during matches too with his slow decisions made during substitutions.

Some of Roberto's fans will point out his wins v West Bromwich etc but we should always beat West Brom and never find ourselves 2-0 down to them anyways.

Â٦m for Naisy is basically robbing someone blind and Roberto failed to be ruthless enough.

Howard out with Naisy is about 㾶m.

Gibson, Osman, Hibbert, McGeady all off the wage bill is massive money.

There’s a top class keeper paid for and a few extra top young players brought into the club in the del boy, Besic mould.

Anyways, back to Baines.

Baines and Coleman should be vital to our attack as they were in Roberto's first season, both getting close to the opponent's goal as they are a danger.

At home play one defensive mid.

At home play 2 strikers.

Tweaks will improve us but if you look through our squad we have too much dead wood to become a top side any time soon I’m sorry to say.

Derek Thomas
26 Posted 14/11/2015 at 08:33:07
Baines will be a valuable member of the squad for at least a couple of seasons yet (until June 2018) but I doubt he will ever be 'back to his best' for two maybe reasons

1) Martinez, unlike Moyes, doesn't play a system that has Baines as one of the main thrusts.

2) No Pienaar to play off...

3) Age.

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