Everton not looking to offload Mirallas

05/11/2015  66 Comments  [Jump to last]
Updated Roberto Martinez has rejected speculation suggesting that Everton are looking to sell Kevin Mirallas in the January transfer window.

The manager followed up a report in the Liverpool Echo yesterday who suggested that the Belgian remains a key member of the squad despite the fact that he has made just one Premier League start this season.

Mirallas's opportunities this term have been limited by niggling injury, poor form and a three-match suspension and, worryingly for him in the context of next summer's European Championships, he recently lost his place in the Belgium national squad.

However, having offered him a three-year deal that he signed in August, Everton apparently have no intention of letting him go.

"It couldn't be further from the truth,' Martinez said of the notion Mirallas was unhappy.

"Kevin has been a very, very important player while I've been at the football club. The start of this season has been challenging for him because he had a couple of niggles then he had the sending-off so wasn't available for three games. But the way that he's been working in training has been very impressive.

"He's improved as a footballer and it's important for us that Kevin is fresher now going into the second half of the season and we'll get the benefit from that.

"Kevin Mirallas is a very, very important player for Everton - he knows that. What he needs now is to get playing time because the start of the season has been frustrating for him."  

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Sam Hoare
1 Posted 04/11/2015 at 06:51:59
I like Mirallas, he has been one of our best scorers/providers over the last few years but I'm not sure he's the sort of player who is really going to fight for his place and perhaps could be more likely to sulk away on the wing.

He's also approaching the point where his value will start to diminish. If someone bids handsomely for him, let's say £8m or upwards then I'd be tempted to part ways and find someone younger and hungrier. Perhaps someone more in the mold of Kone, a powerful winger able to hold the ball up and link up well with Lukaku.

Darryl Ritchie
2 Posted 04/11/2015 at 07:59:55
When Mirallas came in late against Sunderland, he played like a man desperate to prove himself to the manager and the fans. He was unlucky not score, as he whizzed one just by the post.

I wouldn't bet against him starting vs West Ham.

Martinez is trying to change our reputation of being a selling club; witness the Stones saga. I don't think he has to sell any player to raise funds to buy another player. The TV money has given him control that Moyes could only dream of.

Paul Cherrington
4 Posted 04/11/2015 at 08:40:01
I think we should keep him and he should be starting every match where possible. However if, as seems the case, RM doesn't fancy him and he is only going to get 10 mins here and there, we might as well get what we can for him now.

He is an expensive benchwarmer – one of the young lads could do that role just as easily.

Ian Jones
5 Posted 04/11/2015 at 09:49:53
I feel a bit sorry for Mirallas. He probably needs a good run of games to get up to speed and to feel part of the team. But these days most clubs, Everton included, don't necessarily have a 'first 11' as such with the emphasis on the squad.

I would be happy to see him stay and fight his way back in. However, he can't be too pleased with his lot at the moment. I am sure he feels that at this stage of his career he should be one of the first names on a teamsheet... somewhere. So it wouldn't surprise me if he asked to go.

James Stewart
7 Posted 04/11/2015 at 11:26:19
You don't sell your best players and he is one of ours. I hope he starts next game.
Richard Reeves
8 Posted 04/11/2015 at 11:52:08
It's always good to say we are not looking to offload him as it might make someone put in an offer the club can't refuse, or maybe we really don't want to sell him... who knows? But I would like to see him on the field more often and at the same time as Deulofeu.
Harold Matthews
9 Posted 04/11/2015 at 12:16:23
He knows he won't regain his place in the high flying Belgium squad while he sits on the bench. Sadly for Kev, he also knows that we pay better wages than he's likely to get elsewhere.
Alex Bennett
10 Posted 04/11/2015 at 12:18:52
He is one of our best players when in form. At a lot of other Premier League clubs he would be a definite starter.

It really annoys me when I see Aaron Lennon on the teamsheet instead of him, but that's Martinez for you.

Jon Withey
11 Posted 04/11/2015 at 12:27:40
He's barely been available this season and people are blaming Martinez? Ludicrous.

With Deulofeu and Kone finding form, he is faced with more competition than in years. Even Lennon is more consistent.

That said, I love watching him at his best and would be very sorry to see him go.

Jim Harrison
12 Posted 04/11/2015 at 12:52:55
It's a squad game. Currently we are doing alright in that area of the pitch, and those who have been in ahead of him have both scored hattricks.

Naismith has dropped off a bit, Kone hit form. His time will come, but he needs to seize that moment and make himself undroppable if he wants to be in the team all the time.

Peter Gorman
13 Posted 04/11/2015 at 13:01:46
Jon, I am more consistent than Mirallas, consistently shite that is. I think Lennon gets a hard time on here but if we are looking for an edge then there is no comparison between him and Mirallas.

I wouldn't even have Kone in competition with him, Kone is a striker and it would be nice to see him play as such. Let's have Mirallas and Deulofeu both for a bit and hopefully see some more 6 goal hauls.

Peter Gorman
14 Posted 04/11/2015 at 13:05:01
And also Jon, where do you get it into your head that he has barely been available this season? Other than his ban, he has been bench-warming more often than not. Now that is ludicrous.
Ernie Baywood
15 Posted 04/11/2015 at 13:35:20
Has Kev really made himself a certain pick ahead of Deulofeu, Lennon, Kone (kind of playing as a wide forward if not an attacking wide midfielder), even Naismith? All those have had their moments.

If he's as good as we think he is, then he'll show it and I'll blame Roberto if he still doesn't pick him.

Decent signs against Sunderland. He had an unbelievable game against West Ham (was it last year?). Maybe he'll get a go from the start to make his case.

Love the idea that we might have 4 or 5 attacking wide players... each offering something a bit different and all suitably fresh at different times. Will give us some good options to change up games.

Jon Withey
16 Posted 04/11/2015 at 14:03:36
Well, here are some Mirallas prem stats painfully extracted from the BBC, not massaged to make any point :

1 - started, subbed, draw, Lennon not available
2 - benched, unused, we battered Southampton, Lennon not available
3 - benched, unused, loss, Lennon not available.
4 - benched, used for second half, draw, Lennon not available
5 - benched, unused, batter chelsea, Lennon plays 30 mins.
6 - benched, draw, sent off on 92 mins, Lennon unused
7 - unavailable, win, Lennon used for 10 mins
8 - unavailable, draw, Lennon used for 30 mins
9 - benched, unused, loss, Lennon used for 75 mins
10 - benched, 20 mins sub, loss, Lennon used for 70 mins
11 - benched, big win, 25 mins sub, Lennon benched and unused

It's true he has been benched a lot. I don't see a bias towards Lennon, who hasn't been used much either really. I also don't see where Mirallas has had a big impact on the teams results - note that our 3 best results didn't involve him much.

I remember him being useless for that first Watford game - perhaps Martinez felt the same.

Martinez also seems to have returned the baton to him after a run of trying Lennon.

I guess we'll see next game.

Dave Hall
17 Posted 04/11/2015 at 14:37:34
This really isn't about Lennon, it's about Deulofeu playing with his hair on fire, and leaving no doubt that he's the best playmaker in the side out on the right flank. Mirallas will have to fight to get in on the left side in place of Kone, and there's no chance of that happening this weekend after the games that both Kone and Deulofeu just had.

Our Best XI now is about as clear now as it has been for 2 years:

Coleman Stones Funes Mori Galloway (Baines, once fit)
Barry McCarthy
Deulofeu Barkley Kone

Subs: Howard, Naismith, Mirallas, Besic, Osman, Lennon. Browning

Dan Parker
18 Posted 04/11/2015 at 14:43:37
He's injury-prone, selfish in possession and has an attitude problem. I remember Phil Neville making a comment about being a disruption in the dressing room. He has an abundance of talent which we all want to see but we don't see it often enough.

He appears to see himself as better than Everton, he was convinced to stay after we kept hold of players such as John Stones.

The reality is he'll never have a club calling of a greater calibre of Everton; he's simply not good/consistent enough. Quit moaning Kevin, earn your place on the field, keep it going for dare I say more than 5 games and then talk...

No player is bigger than Everton. They'll come and go; Everton remains.

Jim Hardin
19 Posted 04/11/2015 at 15:51:57

Where is there even one quote from Kev in this article? How do you conclude that he is moaning about anything? There is nothing that I could find in any Belgian newspaper or in articles surrounding the Belgian national team. Even the Echo has no quotes.

If he is unsettled or upset about not playing, isn't that a good thing? Doesn't that mean that he is not happy just collecting a paycheck? Honestly, some TW posters either cannot read and understand the articles or just want to spout their own nonsense, unsupported by any factual underpinning, just to have a go at a player they apparently don't like.

Michael Kenrick
20 Posted 04/11/2015 at 16:15:31
Jon, he was also started two of the three cup games, scoring in one and providing in the other. To say "He's barely been available this season" is complete and utter nonsense.

He's been involved in the squad for every single game, obviously with the exception of his 3-game ban.

Jon Withey
21 Posted 04/11/2015 at 16:48:14
#18: Yes, my imagination. I thought I'd made that clear, obviously not.

It's difficult to see where he fits in - is he a better second-striker than Kone? A better winger than Deulofeu?

Or are we back to this issue where we don't really have anyone suitable for the left wing?

Geoff Evans
22 Posted 04/11/2015 at 17:32:59
Potentially Miralles is a top player.
Dan Parker
24 Posted 04/11/2015 at 19:10:37
Jim, I didn't say I didn't like him, you just assumed that. I actually think he's a great player on the day, we just don't see it often enough. I wasn't referring to this article specifically but a general picture of the player built up over the last few years as it seems to be an ever-present theme.

For your quotes, here you go:

Admittedly the Telegraph 'translation' could be far too loose.

Ultimately we just want to see the performance on the pitch, not talk about it.

Peter Gorman
25 Posted 04/11/2015 at 19:53:24
Jon, building on your analysis (and definitely to massage my point - which is the preference for literally anyone before him) two games stand out for me;

vs Man City: Kone, Cleverley start. City go 1-0 up at 60 mins - Martinez brings on Naismith. 2-0 up, brings on Deulofeu. Unused, loss

vs Man Utd: Lennon, Naismith start. Utd 2-0 up - brings on Kone, 3-0 up, brings on Deulofeu. Unused, loss

Ok, we might have got a win or draw in games where he was unavailable or unused but in these two instances, chasing the game, it seemed pretty clear that Mirallas should consider himself 5th choice winger. In fact, maybe even 6th choice as Besic started against Chelsea with Kone, both replaced later by Lennon and hatrick-hero Naismith.

Given that Deulofeu is a rough diamond and Lennon is just rough (in the nicest possible way), Mirallas should surely be considered our best player on the wing, yet he can barely get a kick. Oviedo could also do a job on the left but he is also notable for his absence so the question is, why shouldn't his attitude be less than rosy.

Naismith is not good on the wing, neither are Barkley or Besic, all of whom have played there to accommodate the latest genius from the manager. Cleverley does an acceptable job there but is better in the middle. Kone is ok there but is way better as a striker.

When it comes to Mirallas, sometimes it really looks like Martinez is taking the piss.

Harold Matthews
26 Posted 04/11/2015 at 19:53:57
Tons of ability when he wants to use it. Seems really up for it at the moment and will get game-time. Kone will not always shine and the less than speedy Naismith tends to be used as an extra ball winner who can defend the box and get forward. Mirallis is pacey with a touch of class. Martinez will know when to use him.
Denis Richardson
27 Posted 04/11/2015 at 20:03:11
This guy should be one of the first names on the team sheet and think it's ridiculous he's hardly played this season. He's consistently gotten assists and goals in the past so not surprised he's pissed off if the likes of Lennon and Naismith and getting games ahead of him.

Also very odd to hand him a new contract and then not play him – unless the club did this to keep his value high with the intention of selling him all along.

Whatever's happened between him and the manager, if he's not going to be play regularly then we should cash in and save the wages/use the funds for a new player - new GK might be an idea, Valdes?

Sam 1, if Norwich were willing to offer £8M(!) for Naismith, I'd hope to get a lot more than that for Mirallas.

John Keating
28 Posted 04/11/2015 at 20:07:13
We should look at not offloading Mirallas.

One we did offload, George Green, has now been offloaded by Oldham. What a waste of talent, for whatever reason.

Brian Williams
29 Posted 04/11/2015 at 22:00:25
I can't really see any reason, other than maintaining his value, that the club would extend his contract only for the manager not to play him regularly unless he's serving some sort of Martinez punishment... a sort of "I'm the boss here, toe the line."

Maybe Martinez is big on the right attitude, and it has to be said Kev's can be poor. Time will tell... come January, it'll be clearer, I think.

Patrick Murphy
30 Posted 04/11/2015 at 22:43:25
Every manager has a player who doesn't always follow the rules. Kevin Mirallas can be one of the most talented and devastating players in the Premier League on his day, but that's his problem it has to be his day. Some managers will tolerate the 'wrong' attitude on occasion if it means it helps him to keep his job, but those managers that are more interested in the development of the team tend to leave them on the bench or in the dressing room. Remember Howard Kendall did it to a couple of players and in the end Howard Kendall triumphed.

I'm sure that Roberto Martinez would much rather have a fully functioning Kevin Mirallas at his disposal but not at the expense of the team. I hope that Kevin puts on his professional head for the remainder of the season as that would be best for him and the team.

If I'm wrong and it is a personal thing with Roberto and Kevin, then it will be Martinez who will suffer in the end, but the truth is, we never know exactly what players do or don't do on the training ground.

Rob Hooton
31 Posted 04/11/2015 at 23:13:38
In one word – Good! I like the idea of a Mirallas fired up with something to prove. He has still not realised his potential and maybe needed a kick up the backside to push him on...
Anthony Dwyer
32 Posted 04/11/2015 at 23:52:41
Mirallas would start most weeks for me, but at the minute there simply isn’t space for him in a Martinez side. Roberto plays 2 defensive mids regardless of anything so that won’t change. This leave Lukaku as a dead cert as well as Barkley, that leaves only two slots. These slots have to be for Deulofeu and Kone.

Mirallas is good enough to hold one of them positions once any of the above players are either injured or out of form. If Mirallas is given a chance in either position or in Barkley's position, he needs 90 minutes to earn his spot and if possible a decent run.

What he’s getting though is half games at best and often he’s overlooked for Naismith or Lennon. If that’s to continue we might as well sell him as we won’t get nothing from him like that.

If we’re to sell a player from that position, I’d sell Naismith, especially if we were to get another ٦M bid. I’d also sell McGeady for a packet of Walkers Cheese an Onion.

Bob Parrington
33 Posted 04/11/2015 at 23:54:08
What has been noticeable this season is a certain level of petulance from Kevin. IMO, it would be good to see the manager, coaching staff channel the emotion involved in the petulance to drive him back to being the excellent player we know him to be. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the alternative might be that he sulks. Hopefully not!
Oliver Molloy
34 Posted 05/11/2015 at 00:10:12
Patrick @ 26,
Who were the the couple of players Kendall triumphed over as you put it – just curious?

And what is your thinking behind "it will be Martinez that will suffer in the end" when you have just said the above regards Kendall!

Patrick Murphy
35 Posted 05/11/2015 at 00:46:48
Oliver (29) Mickey Thomas, Billy Wright and Terry Curran were in my thoughts as was Steve McMahon to a lesser extent although McMahon went because Kendall wanted the money to pay for Trevor Steven.

As none of us know the reasons behind Mirallas's omissions, Martinez would suffer if it was purely on a personal basis, rather than for the overall good of the team. Kendall's decisions were made to help the team or at least history shows that to be the case, it is too early to judge whether Roberto's motives prove to be similar, but I would guess looking in from the outside that they are.

Mark Andersson
36 Posted 05/11/2015 at 00:52:38
It's all about attitude, Kevin has the wrong attitude while Naismith, Kone, Lennon, and the others have the right attitude.

I hope that Martinez management of the squad is going to plan. Dealing with ego's to get the best performance has to be the hardest part of the job.

I trust Martinez in his handling of the squad, it's his tactics I don't trust.

Lewis Barclay
37 Posted 05/11/2015 at 06:37:38
Brilliant at his best. Not at his best enough.

Too much "noise" in the press around him for my liking ... He drives a gold Bentley. There you go I said it.

Tony McNulty
38 Posted 05/11/2015 at 08:40:16
The upside? A talented player. Someone no opposition would want to see running at them with 30 minutes to go. Ability to create and to score goals.

The downside? The head does not always seem right (some of the sending off incidents, and some incidents when he should have been sent off); quite greedy (though talented and egotistical players often are); too much noise around him on and off the field (that penalty incident; his lippy agent; some of the 'mistranslated' press stories emerging from the Belgian press).

I would keep him, although why, given our other priorities, we bought Lennon as well continues to puzzle me. On those days when we play with a single winger there are now four of them vying for the same creative role. But that, as they say in trashy novels, is another story.

Dave Abrahams
39 Posted 05/11/2015 at 09:41:44
Patrick. (32) Kendall wouldn't play Thomas because he hadn't played for a couple of weeks, so he wanted him to play in the reserves to prove his fitness, Mickey refused so was sold pretty quickly.

Not long after Kendall took Keeley,on loan from Blackburn, he had hardly played for a few months, but Howard put him straight into a derby game against Liverpool with disasterous results, we lost heavily and Keeley never played for Everton again.

You are right he sold McMahon to buy Trevor Steven, but McMahon wanted to go after a bust up with Kendall over wages. Heath and Johnson were on £900 per week, Stevie was on less than half of that and was offered a very small wage increase, and I mean very, very small, McMahon refused and was sold to Aston Villa, knocking back Liverpool in the process.

Paul Cherrington
40 Posted 05/11/2015 at 09:57:37
I just don't get why RM gave him the new contract if he had no intention of playing him much and they have fallen out. You would think he would have jumped at the chance to offload in the summer, especially with the other wingers in the squad.

You can see why Kev is annoyed if he's signed that and then realised the manager has done it just to spite him in effect... especially when lesser players walk into the team in his position at times.

Every manager has difficult characters but it's their job to manage them when they are valuable to the team. I still think we should line up with Deulofeu on the right and Mirallas on the left for games.

Harold Matthews
41 Posted 05/11/2015 at 10:20:14
Martinez on the radio saying Mirallis is an important player.
Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 05/11/2015 at 10:54:33
Really don't see what the manager is doing wrong here. We all know on talent alone Miralles would start every week, but his application lets him down badly. All he has to do is get this right and it would be impossible for Martinez not to pick him.

Peter Gorman
43 Posted 05/11/2015 at 12:17:52
I don't see the problem with his application Tony. Last season he did his share of the defensive work as much Pienaar in his pomp. His recent sending off was for an over-zealous attempt to win the ball back near our own area. He was just as robust defending against Arsenal during his last cameo.

If you refer to application going forward, his record surpasses Kone, Deulofeu and Naismith let alone Besic, Barkley, Cleverley and Lennon (our other 'wingers').

Not a personal dig Tony but a lot of fans' arguments seem to be based on the pseudo-science of body-language.

Andrew Ellams
44 Posted 05/11/2015 at 12:48:13
Question is would we be better off had he started more games this season? Maybe he would have been the difference in the games at Swansea and Spurs or the Derby but potentially not. It all depends on which Kev turns up.
Brian Harrison
45 Posted 05/11/2015 at 13:28:22
I think most agree that Mirallas is a talented player, but some question which Kevin might turn up.

I have to say I like Mirallas and cant for the life of me understand why RM signed Lennon. We had plenty of cover for wide positions so why add neither a provider or scorer of goals is beyond me.

I think at present he must start with Kone and Deulofeu alongside Lukaku, so there is no place for Mirallas, but if we are to replace a wide player then he should be our first choice. I would hope that when Cleverley and Besic are fit they compete for a central midfield position and not shoehorned into a wide position.

Tom Bowers
46 Posted 05/11/2015 at 13:42:16
No matter what is being said at the moment it's obvious Everton have several players who may now be surplus to requirements either due to constant injuries, age or lack of form. These include Mirallas, McGeady, Gibson, Pienaar, Osman and sadly Oviedo. They may all still be at Goodison come the end of the season but may not have much of a role to play.

With others probably coming back soon like Besic and Baines it doesn't make sense to keep players who are not going to contribute. Better to bring in one or two players in the window to compliment the squad and free up some wage space by offloading some of the others.

Harold Matthews
47 Posted 05/11/2015 at 14:02:04
Brian. Mirallis has said he prefers playing on the left or just left of centre where he can cut ijn and shoot with his powerful right foot. Lennon is probably the stand-in for Deulofeu but he can sometimes fill in at right back.
Bill Gall
48 Posted 05/11/2015 at 14:59:20
The way Martinez seems to set up the team with 3 players behind Lukaku, it will mean he will alter the players in the position playing behind Lukaku depending on the opposition.

Mirallas will get more playing time if or when Baines gets back into the team. Kone will be kept in the team if he continues with his improvement, and Barkley will be kept in.

The manager will assess his options depending on the opposition: if he thinks their left sided defenders are weaker, he will use Deulofeu and Coleman; if he thinks it is their right side is weaker, he will go with Mirallas and Baines. I do not think he will play them both at the same time.

Oliver Molloy
49 Posted 05/11/2015 at 14:59:41
Thanks for that, Patrick.

Perhaps I am missing your point re manager vs player.
I still don't get your train of thought that Martinez would be the one to suffer if it was a personal thing between him and Mirallas (which I agree with you by the way, I don't think it is).

Are you saying it would harm Martinez's reputation as a man-manager?

For me, and I have said it many times,Mirallas is a big time Charlie who reckons he can cut it with the best (nothing wrong with that if you can do the business, but unfortunately he seems to pick and choose when he wants to put the required effort into his game). I wouldn't be bothered if he left us providing we had a replacement lined up.

Trevor Lynes
50 Posted 05/11/2015 at 16:20:34
We badly need Mirallas firing goals as no one else of the bunch mentioned are doing that basic job.

Mirallas has been second only to Lukaku in goal threat and he had a near miss against Sunderland in the few minutes he played. Mirallas is a Belgian international and when he is playing more often he will make their squad again. Lennon is not up to that standard and was not wanted by Spurs. Players like our two defensive midfielders, Lennon and Barkley do not score often enough.Mirallas will always score goals and that is what our game is all about !!

Jay Harris
51 Posted 05/11/2015 at 16:25:49
I know some people question Kevin's consistency this season but, when given a run in the side in previous seasons, he has consistently scored important goals... something we have been lacking pre Sunderland.

Also, the types of goals he scores give us another dimension.

This season just hasn't got going for him but I would definitely say he is as good as any of our other forwards on form.

Denis Richardson
52 Posted 05/11/2015 at 16:48:30
Have to say I find it funny how many people highlight Mirallas's inconsistency.

Which one player do we have that is consistently good, week-in & week-out? Can't really think of any this season, or last for that matter (unless we're talking consistently poor).

The guy has talent and to get the best out of him he needs to play regularly. Also, I get the feeling that he's a player you need to put an arm round to get the best out of rather than one you need to kick up the backside.

His stats are there for all to see and stack up much better than any other midfielder we have.

Situation is just odd.

Ray Roche
53 Posted 05/11/2015 at 17:32:55
Dave Abrahams (#35),

I was under the impression that, when McMahon wanted to go, Everton refused to to sell him to Liverpool but sold him to Villa, hence his arrival at Anfield, his desired destination, after one season.

As for Thomas, I was playing Welsh League at that time and Thomas was supposed to be playing for Everton that day at, I think, West Ham, but he was on the sidelines watching our match at Conwy! Not the brightest of individuals, wasting what talent he had.

Stephen Brown
54 Posted 05/11/2015 at 17:59:19
I really rate Mirallas, a winger who gets you 10-12 goals is like gold dust! However you can't help feel that he thinks he is doing us a big favour playing for us very much like Rom! When the reality is its the other way round!
Danny O'Neill
55 Posted 05/11/2015 at 18:32:53
Really just echoing the sentiments of a few on here; great talent but inconsistent and appears to sometimes have his eyes set on what he considers higher ambition than Everton, which is usually quashed when the reality hits that clubs of that present stature do not consider his ability in the same category as he does. Cue eat humble pie and say how great Everton is.

I think the inconsistency thing is the key factor at play here. Genuinely top players can produce for, let's say, 90% of the time for 90% of the season (no-one I know is absolutely perfect). Due to Kevin being way below that level of consistency, is there a danger that he is actually a better impact player than a starter, which may explain the above expected bench time ratio for such a good player?

Without the benefit of doing some detailed research, my instinctive memory recalls him coming on to change games in equal measure to him making way because he hadn't had the desired impact from the start. Just a thought; genuinely like him, the type of player we craved for years but wish he was more consistently brilliant with the talent he possesses.

Thomas Surgenor
56 Posted 05/11/2015 at 18:52:11
Goal scoring winger.
Not for sale!

Mark my words, at the end of the season we will all be looking back and wondering what the fuss was about as he will have ousted Kone from that side.

Let's not forget, Mirallas and Lukaku also seem to have a chemistry when they play together.

Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 05/11/2015 at 19:04:22
Peter 39, nothing personal at all, it's just about personal opinions that's all.

I saw Mirallas play an absolute blinder at Upton Park, in the cup last season, where he reached a level I have not seen many Everton players reach in the last twenty years. Not saying you can play like that every week, it would be impossible. But I haven't seen him anywhere near that level, since that night. If that's not down to how you apply yourself, then what is it?

He plays when he wants to (doesn't everyone?) but when you're such a gifted individual, it should always be about pushing yourself to reach new heights. I don't think Kevin Mirallas does this nowhere near enough to himself.

Keith Glazzard
59 Posted 05/11/2015 at 19:41:58
He could win a game for any team in Europe, He's a very good player, no doubt. Given a role in a settled team week in week out, older readers might think Jimmy Husband, maybe he would seem more of a team player, but that's not how we play these days.
If he wants to stay we should certainly keep this excellent player. If he wants to go, how many millions?
Martin Mason
60 Posted 05/11/2015 at 19:52:24
It's a sign of the health of the club that we have an International player of KM's ability having to fight his way into the team and being made to suffer because of his inability to act like an adult in the course of his contracted duties.

RM makes the decisions, he sees KM train all week as well as when he plays at the weekend and he has the right to discipline him as he sees fit for acting like an infant on the field even if that means the ignominy of sitting it out on the bench.

When he is good enough to start, he will do so; at the moment he isn't. For me, he is a poor one-man show and not fit to wear the badge.

Raymond Fox
61 Posted 05/11/2015 at 20:18:24
Similar to what Martin says, Martinez is in a better position to judge when to play him.

RM always emphasises the value of a strong together group, and perhaps Kevin rocks the boat occasionally. I have a suspicion that Besic also fitted that description for a period.

Dave Abrahams
62 Posted 05/11/2015 at 22:17:40
Ray (48), if Stevie McMahon had wanted to sign for Liverpool at that time there is nothing to stop him, he signed for Villa because he didn't want the attention signing for Liverpool would have brought him from Everton fans, he was wrong there because he got loads of abuse from our fans by signing for Villa.

Re Mickey Thomas I was pointing out the hypocrisy of Howard Kendall in not playing him after not playing for two games and playing Glen Keeley who hadn't plated for a few months, but do agree Mickey was a bit behind with his mental rent.

Paul Ritchie
63 Posted 05/11/2015 at 22:22:33
I will probably get shot down for this but what about dropping Barkley and playing Deulofeu in the hole behind Lukaku? He's got a much better eye for a creative pass. Then play Mirallas and Kone wide.
Ray Roche
64 Posted 05/11/2015 at 22:33:45
Dave, "a bit behind with his mental rent". Classic.

As for McMahon, it's just the way I remembered things, you're possibly right, I'll wait for the book to come out!

Paul Cherrington
65 Posted 06/11/2015 at 09:07:11
You have to remember players are only human and, if he can't stand the manager, that would explain his current frustration.

Yes, I know everyone should be a professional and do your best, whatever... but it's easier said than done when you might hate the person in charge. Funny how Moyes had no real problems keeping him happy & playing, isn't it?

Ian Riley
66 Posted 06/11/2015 at 16:46:54
Paul 61, I had the same problem with my manager. I had a personality clash. Then he gave me a three-year contract and an extra £20k a week! If Kevin was that upset in the summer, why didn't he put a transfer request in?

This situation with Kevin has been going on for the past 12 months. He is not a regular, why I don't know? He is a great player who excites me and many other fans.

Who knows what goes on behind the scenes? The more I think about this situation, the more I am confused!

Colin Glassar
67 Posted 06/11/2015 at 19:01:44
Geoff 20, he's 28 now. He'll never be a top player. A more than decent squad player but nothing more.
Trevor Peers
68 Posted 08/11/2015 at 14:07:42
Time to cash in on Kev, he's had his chance, time to find a more reliable left winger, who will consistently work hard and score goals.
Peter Gorman
69 Posted 08/11/2015 at 18:27:58
Trev, are you doing a funny? When has he had his chance? With his few 2nd half cameos?
Keith Monaghan
70 Posted 10/11/2015 at 23:20:54
He should be one of the first names on our team-sheet. Yes, he's lacked consistency - so have others in our regular starters, and some have been consistently poor (like Ross & McCarthy) for months.

His problem, like Rom's, is the poor quality of service he receives. With good quality service, he and Rom would easily get 30 goals between them in a full season.

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