Reports: Gibson charged for drink-driving

18/08/2015  119 Comments  [Jump to last]
Darron Gibson is scheduled to appear in a Magistrate's court on 1st September in connection with a drink-driving incident on 16th August, according to a tabloid report.

A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police is quoted as saying: He has been bailed to appear at Trafford magistrates court on Tuesday, September 1.

This is in relation to an incident on August 16 where police were called to reports that a car had collided with a cyclist and failed to stop before pulling into a petrol station and colliding with a pump.

Everton have declined to comment on the allegations according to the report.  

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Trevor Lynes
1 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:22:09
This man should never have been given a contract extension. He was dumped by United and was injury prone before he joined us.Some fans have shown support for him and it is definitely misplaced as I think of him as a waste of money before this latest drink driving incident.

He has a duty to the club who pay his wages to perform professionally and that go's for anyone in any job.

Scott Bosworth
2 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:42:24
Gutted if true. He's always been one of my favorites, but this spells doom.
Steve Durham
3 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:45:55
Fucking tit - 㿞k a week, 𧴵,000 car, ٠m house - distinctly average footballer never fit and with a drink problem. Reflects everything that is obscene with modern football!!
John Daley
4 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:54:28
".. collided with a cyclist and failed to stop before pulling into a petrol station and colliding with a pump.”

....and he walked away, uninjured? I rest my case your honour.

-Lionel Hutz.

Steve Jenkins
5 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:54:48
If convicted, that'll be his Everton career over then.
Mark Riding
6 Posted 18/08/2015 at 23:59:44
"I'd only had a few, I popped out for some electric and some green Rizlas..."
Mike Gaynes
7 Posted 18/08/2015 at 00:01:40
Hit and run with a cyclist?

Crashed into a gas pump???

Lucky he didn't go up in flames.

Think maybe this level of commitment to conditioning has had something to do with his injury jinx?

One four-letter word applies. SACK.

Sean Kelly
8 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:02:27
If true, he's a gobshite.
Gavin Johnson
9 Posted 18/08/2015 at 00:03:26
I only remember he plays for us when I read the updates on whatever injury he's out with. I wouldn't even know what injury he's out with at the moment, there's been that many. It was madness to give him another contract.
Colin Glassar
10 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:05:28
AVDM Mk II? I hope not but I think it's time for Gibson to find another club who will pay his sick pay.
Ross Edwards
11 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:05:33
Oh dear if this is true. He won't be sacked or have his contract terminated though. He'll probably stay on a last chance basis.
Phil Sammon
12 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:12:02
I like Gibbo as a player... but maybe this is the final straw.

We should probably wait for it to be confirmed before making my judgements though.

Mark Riding
13 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:13:08
Mark Riding
14 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:16:50
The failing to stop is shocking. Could have easily killed a cyclist, as I bet his "Nissan Skyline" was shifting a bit.
Jackie Barry
15 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:21:45
If true, sack him. If I did this, my employer would fire me, should be same rule for all.
Mark Riding
16 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:23:43
David Unsworth was nicked driving around my area drunk btw. Just saying like.
Jay Harris
17 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:30:27
Drinking used to be prevalent among pros but I thought that with the fitness regimes in the Prem it was frowned upon now except for the odd glass.

Tut tut, Gibbo.

Colin Glassar
18 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:32:41
I can just see the headlines tomorrow, "Alcoholism rampant in Everton team. Another reason why John Stones should move to squeaky clean Chelsea."
Sean McCarthy
19 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:35:14
A few years ago St Steven Pienaar got done for drink driving (as well as a bit domestic violence against his partner) and yet the majority on here were all singing his praises and claiming we all make mistakes and deserve second chance....

So what's changed to turn us all pious and self righteous over Darron Gibson's misdemeanour?? Comparisons to AvdM are I suspect well wide of the mark. He was beyond redemption and simply stole his wages. Gibson when fit is the only midfielder we have who can see a forward pass. I don't ever condone what he did but I think the "sack him" merchants may wish to bear that in mind!! "He who is without sin" and all that.

I'd rather he concentrated on getting himself fit and not getting pissed before getting behind the wheel. But I wouldn't be looking to sack him for this. Hopefully he'll learn his lesson and contribute to the team throughout this season. We need him more than we need the way past his sell by date Pienaar

David Hallwood
20 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:37:32
Let's face it, he obviously doesn't subscribe to the 'my body's a temple' school. But, if correct, disappointing because, if I was Gibson with my injury and weight issues, I'd live like a monk for the short years I was a pro footballer.
Andy Crooks
21 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:46:54
Sean and David, I agree with both of your posts but now realize they are opposite...err.

Mark Riding
22 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:49:35
As he is in court on deadline day, I hope Sky Sports have someone there.
Derek Thomas
24 Posted 19/08/2015 at 00:51:43
Sack him?...really?? sanctimonious claptrap. Sadly the country is still overpopulated with idiots that drink and drive. But unless you drive for a living, you don't usually get the sack.

He kicks a ball for a living, that's his job, the amount he gets paid is neither here nor there.

Drink Drive = Fine, ban and / or jail. One law for all. You can't sack people for being stupid... much as we would like to. Even if it does free up his obscene wages...just to give it to another.

Paul Kossoff
26 Posted 19/08/2015 at 01:43:52
Anyone who puts other people's lives at risk by driving drunk should be jailed, banned for life, and sacked.
Anthony Dwyer
27 Posted 19/08/2015 at 01:44:29
This goes back to what I have said before, Darron Gibson is always injured because he does not act accordingly.

He just does not act as a 2015 seasoned professional should do and he is never ever fit as a direct result.
Craig Fletcher
28 Posted 19/08/2015 at 01:55:27
I guess Gibbo was celebrating the Southampton win.... bloody idiot.
Gavin Johnson
29 Posted 19/08/2015 at 02:07:02
Certainly makes you wonder whether lifestyle has played some part in his fitness (or lack of). Shandy was always injured, as was Gazza, and, while I'm sure his lifestyle isn't in that category, it does rub salt into the wounds when you hear he's pissed in a £125k motor trying to escape to his £2m mansion when the guy's pretty much done fuck all since he's been here.

The only notable thing I can remember him doing was scoring in his first game against Man City. I'd be surprised if he's played more than 3 consecutive games in over 3 years.

Jackie Barry
30 Posted 19/08/2015 at 02:49:28
Derek, actually there are a lot of high profile companies out there that will not put up with that kind of behaviour, and yes you could very well face being fired from your job for this kind of action.
Conor Skelly
31 Posted 19/08/2015 at 02:56:52
It's not sanctimonious to condemn drink driving. It's irresponsible and highly dangerous and kills hundreds of innocent people a year. Considering the fact the bloke practically robs a living from the club as it is, I would be looking into this very seriously if I was paying his wages. Knob.
Barry Jones
32 Posted 19/08/2015 at 03:17:36
When a player is in rehabilitation from injury (as Gibson always seems to be) the LAST thing that you need to be doing is pissing it up. The fact that he is driving pissed also is unforgivable. Never mind letting himself down, he has let the fans and the club down and we pay his bloated salary.
Matt Traynor
33 Posted 19/08/2015 at 03:28:20
Ferguson was revered, not reviled, when he was sent down. Whether you believe it was justified or not, the fact remains he was imprisoned whilst an Everton player, and throughout his career was up there with Gibson as a sicknote.

Loving the hypocrisy on here. Whilst some employers may sack staff for criminal convictions, I imagine a number of ponitificators, sorry posters, would no longer be gainfully employed if this were standard practice.

Yeah sack him, but be consistent and terminate the contracts of Ferguson and Pienaar as well. Or maybe just fine him, if the contract allows for that...

Jamie Crowley
34 Posted 19/08/2015 at 03:29:18
I love Gibbo. But this is just crossing the proverbial line.

Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass.

Tragic. Such skill.

Garry Corgan
35 Posted 19/08/2015 at 04:00:21
This wasn't solely drinking and driving, it was also a hit and run. It's only an opinion, but, if he's found guilty in court, I believe his contract should be terminated.

As another poster pointed out, there are many non-driving jobs whereupon this kind of behaviour, once proven, would lead to the sack.

Footballers aren't just paid to kick a ball; they're role models to thousands of kids (and some adults) and, while they often fall short of the expected standard, a drunk hit-and-run conviction is a step too far.

Fortunately, as good as he can be on his day, Gibson is one player we can probably afford to part with.

Matt Traynor
36 Posted 19/08/2015 at 04:06:33
Garry #33, that's exactly my point: "Gibson is one player we can probably afford to part with."

We'd be fucked then if Stones was done? Although the media would love it...

Maybe we should pay someone to spike the drinks of Hibbert, Ossie and a couple of others as "we could probably afford to part with" them?

Christopher Kelly
37 Posted 19/08/2015 at 05:05:05
First article I've read where he's not been injured. Barring that mini-miracle, this is just inexcusable. He's barely played and owes the team and fans his best as we've been waiting (too) patiently for him to come good.

When will these suckers learn to get a driver?

Ian Jones
38 Posted 19/08/2015 at 05:58:27
Obviously an irresponsible thing to do. Deserves whatever punishment he gets from the courts. Thankfully no one has died. Hopefully the cyclist's injury wasn't too bad.

It's then up to club to decide their own punishment. However, it doesn't mean he generally has a problem with alcohol that I think some on here suggest he does.

And the comment about Duncan Ferguson is valid. Wasn't he also found guilty of drink driving not long after he came to Everton? It doesn't seem to have held him back in the minds of Everton fans. Perhaps the difference is the alleged hit and run.

Steve Sweeney
39 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:07:23
Still over the Limit at 9:45am, what a tosser, it's not that he can't afford a taxi. Terminate his contract, we need some new lawnmowers.
Brent Stephens
40 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:13:43
Martinez as character witness - "we don't practice avoiding petrol pumps".
Mike Gaynes
41 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:29:07
Sean and Derek, sorry, but if all you see is the drink driving, you've got one eye closed. The guy apparently tagged a cyclist and took off. Over the line in my book.
Andy Meighan
42 Posted 19/08/2015 at 06:52:26
I like Gibson as a player but he's probably another gobshite footballer who thinks he's above the law because he's got loads of money.

I hope they throw the book at him.
Terence Tipler
43 Posted 19/08/2015 at 07:18:10
I was told about Gibson and his drink issues over a year ago.
Jim Bennings
44 Posted 19/08/2015 at 07:38:17
I don't even know why after more than two year's of hardly appearing, that he's even still at the club really!

You wouldn't see him still at a club that genuinely has ambitions of going places, and low and behold another season starts and guess what? Oh yes, Darron Gibson is injured yet again!!

Just find a potential suitor for him in the Championship or wherever, even without his truly appalling episode of drink driving, hitting a cyclist, apparently he's always been a bit of a tool anyway when it comes to off field behaviour.

Let's be honest, people go on about waiting for his return like he's friggin Andrea Pirlo or Iniesta!

He's a semi decent performer, decent passer but due to his injuries he can't strike a ball hard anymore and okay, he played well in the home game against Young Boys but he was totally anonymous in the few others he turned up for.

Get shut!

Joe Foster
45 Posted 19/08/2015 at 07:38:49
Dear oh dear.
Stephen Brown
46 Posted 19/08/2015 at 07:44:43
Agree with Jim #41. The question is who would take him? Never plays and now with this hanging over him! And the complication of £50 grand a week! (daylight robbery)
I can't remember if he signed the new contract that was muted? I hope if was pay-as-you-play! (And I hope it was stipulated pay-as-you-play for Everton -- not Walton Nick!)
Bill Griffiths
47 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:08:40
If this was just a matter of drink driving, I could understand the argument for giving him a second chance. However, he ran down a cyclist not knowing, then fled the scene, crashing into a petrol pump that could have caused very severe consequences indeed.

He should be put on gardening leave and, if convicted, sacked immediately.

Lewis Roll
48 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:19:01
No one here knows the full facts unless you have seen the CCTV, he might only have clipped the cyclist and he's made a meal out of it for all you know -- saw the car and saw a claim... or he might have run him and then reversed over him for good measure whilst downing a bottle of Tequila, either way let the court decide.

On the over-the-limit thing, how many of us can honestly saw we haven't driven the morning after a heavy one?

Dave Hall
49 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:19:09
I'll start the Kickstarter page to fly the "Gibbo Out!" banner over Goodison this weekend.
Eugene Ruane
50 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:25:51
Christopher (35) - 'When will these suckers learn to get a driver?'


They're ludicrously wealthy and could use a tiny proportion of their wages to keep themselves and everyone else safe (maybe the clubs should be exerting more pressure).

I don't expect genius from footballers but the level of thick some of these lads operate at is staggering (always imagine for managers it must be like dealing with a load of Rupert Ritziks from Bilko/The Phil Silvers Show).

It's frustrating to watch but it seems for many pea-brained players, making the obvious sensible, safe decision (that doesn't put lives in danger) will always be trumped by the urge to be seen behind the wheel of a huge, shining, fat-wheeled lump of metal.

I'm (also) always staggered when they get done for twatting someone in a nightclub at some Christmas do -- it's obvious they don't want anything to do with the public so... why go?

Why not just hire a private gaff and make sure there isn't a mobile in the place?

You could almost guarantee them trouble-free careers with the following four-point plan.

1) Don't drive, get a driver.

2) Don't open a fucking twitter account.

3) Steer clear of night-clubs.

4) Don't get married -- you know your knob makes 96% of all your decisions and as you're also plug-ugly and spotty, you won't be able to resist any plazzy-titted, satsuma-coloured scrubber who puts it* on a plate for you (nb: single, you'll be 'Jack The Lad'; married, you'll be 'Love-rat loses house and custody of his tattooed, earringed, Armani-wearing toddlers!').

(* her fanny -- just in case any footballer is reading this and asking himself "What does he mean by 'it'?")

Ian Riley
51 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:29:12
The man has a problem with alcohol! Let's get him help to deal with it. The money is not an issue with an addiction. If he continues after help and support then he must be sacked.
Sam Hoare
52 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:34:27
Silly lad if true. Bit innocent till found guilty and all that.

People on here very quick to say "Sack him" to a fringe player. Wonder whether it would be the same if it were Lukaku or Stones?

Darren Bailey
53 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:35:37
I think I read somewhere not too long ago that Martinez was considering giving Gibson an extension to his current contract which (I believe) has only one year left to run anyway. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Not being funny but, even though he's currently injured, he should be doing all he can to prove to the club that he deserves an extension at the end of the season, off the pitch as much as on it, when he can get on it, and this hasn't helped his cause one bit.

There's no doubt about it Gibson is top quality on his day, just look at that pass to Mirallas vs ??? (I can't remember but we all know the one). Unfortunately those performances are few and far between and I've said it on here before (and got shot down) but players like Gibson, Pienaar, Hibbert shouldn't even still be at the club taking up valuable resources and paying out wages while injured.

I feel this may be the beginning of the end for him at Everton as, with only one year left on his contract (if true), and this happening, the board may have to cut their losses with him. If they don't, then it will take something spectacular for a new contract to be on the table at the end of the season. I think Pienaar and Hibbert also only have until the end of the season so, come next summer ,we may actually have some treatment tables available again.

Tony Marsh
54 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:44:59
Absolute TIT. Should be fucked right off.

Matt Traynor, Ferguson was sent to jail for an on-field action, not pretending to be Rambo and demolishing a town. Gibson is a useless drain on resources. Sticking by injured players is fine but, when they ruin a club's reputation, then it's time to go.

Nigel Gregson
56 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:50:44
Really sad and totally the wrong attitude. For others calling this incident 'being stupid', actually it's more than just being stupid. This is actually criminal. Maybe not to the level of Ched Evans, but criminal nonetheless. I would be very disappointed if the club actually tried to somehow accommodate him.

ps: Eugene -- hilarious and accurate as always.

Scott Hamilton
57 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:52:20

Make an example and sack him.

Paul Smith
58 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:55:34
Great player on his day - best passer of the ball we've got.

In his defence, he must be gutted his career has panned out the way it has, all the injuries and such. Maybe he's taken to going on the lash to forget about what might have been? Who knows?

You can never condone driving under the influence, however, we're never privvy on TW to all the info so I'm not gonna slate him too much.

Andrew Ellams
59 Posted 19/08/2015 at 08:56:14
Walked away uninjured? Surely any half decent lawyer would get him off on mistaken identity.
Eddie Dunn
60 Posted 19/08/2015 at 09:18:33
I hate dangerous driving, but before we all get too sanctimonious we should wait to hear the facts.

I don't suppose it will turn out, but for all we know he could be under the limit, or just over. The cyclist could have been wearing drab clothing and not had lights, or pulled out in front of him, or veered out into his path. The cyclist could have been listening to an iPod or even been drunk!

The player could even have had a reaction from a drink to anti-inflammatories or something else that we are unaware of.

I must add that, if he is found to be guilty of these things, he will face serious consequences. As stated above, others on our staff have had similar problems and are in our employment, So it won't necessarily mean the sack.

Mike Allison
61 Posted 19/08/2015 at 09:20:13
Alcohol slows down recovery, he must know that. Therefore for a constantly injured player to be drinking at all represents a failure to respect his club and profession.

Recent links to Song and Huddlestone suggest that his time is up here anyway.

Jim Bennings
62 Posted 19/08/2015 at 09:38:42

I'm not sure if I'd ever stretch to Gibson ever being "a great player" even on his day.

He's never been a great player, he's a guy that has only been really unfulfilled potential from his early days at Manchester United, due to injuries mostly... but dickhead behaviour doesn't help.

I think the facts are pretty clear, he's been pissed at 9:45 on a Sunday morning, crashed his expensive car, and sat in the cells and been charged.

What gets me is why the hell is this guy paid £50 grand a week at Everton?? When he barely kicks a ball in anger?

I think it's about time we found a new home for our Michael Ironside lookalike pretty sharpish.

Liam Reilly
63 Posted 19/08/2015 at 09:46:19
Guilty until proven innocent.

He may or may not have done it and there may be circumstances surrounding it that won't condone it but maybe will understand it. But hey fuck all that nonsense -- let's just sack him because it's in the Echo.

Eugene Ruane
64 Posted 19/08/2015 at 09:54:54
Ian Riley (48) - 'The man has a problem with alcohol! Let's get him help to deal with it. The money is not an issue with an addiction. If he continues after help and support then he must be sacked'


Well... I agree that money is not an issue with addiction, but is he an addict?

Have you heard (or do you know) something?

The problem, on the face of it, appears to be one of unbelievable stupidity -- drinking and driving, but if it is alcoholism, then of course that is a different matter.

However in fairness to Evertonians passing comment, the story as reported on the news (on the bleedin' hour on the BBC) begins 'Everton footballer....' not 'Alcoholic Everton footballer...'

Jay Wood
65 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:02:12
Picking up on Eugene's comment: "'re also plug-ugly and spotty, you won't be able to resist any plazzy-titted, satsuma-coloured scrubber..."

I'm reminded of Peter Crouch's very honest and comical response to the question:

"Peter, if you weren't a professional footballer, what would you be?"

"A virgin!"

Jim Bennings
66 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:14:03
I have my doubts over whether Gibson is actually an alcoholic but it's a fact certain players are just more prone to dickhead behaviour than others.

For instance I doubt you'd see guys like Baines, Naismith, Stones for example doing what Gibson or the likes of a Johnny Evans does.

Fair play to guys like Naismith, he is what a proper footballing role model is about.

Andrew Ellams
67 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:16:10
It's not some footballers Jim, it's some people.
Eugene Ruane
68 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:20:05
Jay (60) Former Aberdeen star Davie Dodds, may still be a virgin.

The poor man once had to endure almost an entire half of Celtic supporters continuously singing (to the tune of The Piranhas 'Tom Hark') 'Davie Dodds, the Elephant Man, Davie Dodds, the Elephant Man'

Imagine how hurtful that would have been Link er... to Mr Merrick.

Ian Cowhig
69 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:25:47
Drives me mad...

These players must be thick. They get 㿞k contracts based upon their ability to play football, their value to the side and marketability. So currently he is not on the pitch, no value to the team and now with a possible serious criminal offence. Making him as marketable as a fanny in a eunuch sect.

If Everton have offered him a new contract, then it needs changing to pay-as-you-play. Thus matching Gibson's own ambition to carry forward his career.

Ian Riley
70 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:28:55
Mr Ruane, yes you are right I don't know that and addiction is quite different from a one night out. However, I am sure Mr Gibson feels dreadful about the whole situation. Let's support him and get him playing again. I still think he is one the best midfielders at the club.

Sorry to you and anyone I have offended my comments had no evidence. I do think football needs to support young people with vast amounts of money and time on their hands through education.

Everyone makes mistakes in life and hopefully he will learn from it.

John Pickles
71 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:31:20
It can't be that serious, those mobility scooters don't go that fast... about 8 mph tops!
Denis Richardson
72 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:41:11
Drink driving is bad enough but knocking over a cyclist and not stopping takes the biscuit. Then add on the crashing into the petrol station!

Any normal person doing the above would be convicted. The judge might spare a prison sentence for first a offender but there would definitely be a suspended sentence at least with a driving ban and fine. If the above is true then the club should sack him - the above is simply not acceptable and whatever people say about second chances, there is a limit. he could have killed the cyclist. Didn't the WBA striker go to prison for killing someone whilst DUI?

The guys' contract is up end of this season and I would be amazed if there were any plans in giving him an extension as it is. Get rid if true.

Ben Dyke
73 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:51:39
Absolutely incredible that these muppets drink and drive when they have enough money to get someone to dismantle their house brick by brick and relocate it next to the pub/club/restaurant/bar front door for the night, then move it brick by brick back the next day!

What an absolute doughnut he seems to have been.

I'm not sure about the whole sacking thing but we wouldn't be missing anything would we!

Perhaps the best thing we could do is give him a pay-as-you-play contract extension with clauses for bonus payments itemised:

Don't drink alcohol and drive a car
Don't hit cyclists with your car
Don't drive into petrol pumps
Each journey without the above incurs you £100

Appear on pitch £50k
Make an assist 10k
Score £25k


Nicky Styles
74 Posted 19/08/2015 at 10:55:11
I really like the player and want him to get fit asap as he is, as several have already noted, one of our few midfielders who can cut a defense open with a forward pass.

Frankly, I don't give a shit what he does in his spare time (if reports are true) as this has nothing to do with his playing career. As long as he's on the teamsheet end of August, I see no reason to for the up-in-arms posts from many on here.

Little side-note regarding player misdemeanors: What Adam Johnson did was far more scandalous and damaging to his club and he managed to hang on to his job so for fans to speculate that Gibson could/should be sacked for this triviality is ridiculous.

Craig Walker
75 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:09:39
Get shut! I don't care if he's an Everton player or not. He's a clown. A professional athlete, earning money we can only dream of, can't even look after himself and stay out of trouble.
Julian Wait
77 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:15:50

"Alcohol consumption also appears to have a causative effect in sports related injury, with an injury incidence of 54.8% in drinkers compared with 23.5% in nondrinkers (p < 0.005). "

Draw your own conclusions.

(Ref. Paul John Gascoigne et al)

Ernie Baywood
78 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:18:09
If I was paid a fortune and not playing, if I'm perfectly honest, I'd probably spend more time in pubs than I currently do.

That's me, but I suppose that's (one of the reasons) why I'm not a pro footballer.

Eugene Ruane
79 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:22:54
As dumb as Gibson appears to be, it appears he's Jacob Bronowski when compared to Nicky Styles (69).

Now here's someone who really thinks out an argument.

He refers to the offence as a 'triviality', despite it being obvious it was only by sheer (coincidentally) fucking dumb luck that someone on a bike wasn't killed and/or Gibson wasn't incinerated.

He adds - 'As long as he's on the teamsheet end of August I see no reason to for the up-in-arms posts from many on here'.

I'll make a guess that had it been a relative of his on the bike, he'd now be demanding a mob with flaming torches march on Finch Farm.

(Tut! This bluekipper overspill is becoming intolerable).

John Gee
80 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:28:31
I don't get the hysterical reaction. 28-year-old has a drink and does something stupid. So what?
Steavey Buckley
81 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:42:15
The only good thing to come out of the report about Darren Gibson from BBC sports, Gibson's latest injury is a groin injury, not broken toes.

Finally, at the end of the day, footballers are not role models, but there to kick a ball around, hopefully, to those on the same side. Otherwise, a team would have be full of ex-alter boys to fulfil the request of some people.

Gibson if found guilty should apologise to the manager and pay a hefty fine and then try and get fit as soon as possible, because he can really pass the ball to an Everton player.

Colin Grierson
82 Posted 19/08/2015 at 11:57:00
Nicky (69)

Hit and run = triviality?!?!
Colliding with a petrol pump = triviality!?!?

The word I would use is criminality. A relative of mine was killed whilst cycling to work just before Xmas. The driver failed to stop. Gibson's alleged actions could've caused this level of misery for the family of the cyclist.

Some things are more important than football mate. I don't care how important the player is. If it was John Stones I'd want him gone!

Phil Sammon
83 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:05:24
I'd wager we all have a very decent person close to us that has drink-driven in the past.
Nicholas Ryan
84 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:06:48
Presumably, the concept of the Taxi hasn't yet reached Formby or Alderley Edge!
Nicky Styles
85 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:20:56
Eugene Raune, were you this hysterical after Steven Pienaar's domestic abuse charge??

Further, vise-vie your remark:

''I'll make a guess that had it been a relative of his on the bike, he'd now be demanding a mob with flaming torches march on Finch Farm.''

All we know at this point is that no-one was hurt. There are no details as to the speed he was travelling. We do know, however, that the cyclist wasn't injured and that Gibbo did not go up in flames.

Eugene Ruane
86 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:24:46
Phil Sammon (76) - 'I'd wager we all have a very decent person close to us that has drink-driven in the past.'

In the past, possibly.

But anyone these days who is drink-driving, after fucking years of anti drink-driving warnings and information, wants fucking shooting.

To risk the lives of innocent people (and potentially ruin your own) just because you're too fucking stupid to use a taxi service is fucking insane.

James Stewart
87 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:28:06
Tend to agree with Colin @75. Drink driving is stupid but to hit and run is a completely different level entirely. Despicable act and if he weren't a footballer jail time would be very likely.

He is pretty irrelevant to us now anyway. McCathy, Barry, Cleverley, Besic, thats 4 players for 2 positions without counting Gibson.

Brian Hill
88 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:47:48
Nicky Styles, Steven Pienaar has never been charged with domestic abuse. Not only is your moral compass way off line, your factual knowledge is equally pitiful.
Tony J Williams
89 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:47:54
Twat of a thing to do but it's not as if he's been on the lash all night and went straight out in his car.

He's probably been in bed, got up and went for his loaf of bread and a pint of milk...unfortunately he was slightly over the limit.

I won't get too judgemental, as the cyclist was unhurt, so the "hit" may have been his mirror clipping the handlebar or tapping the pedal, we don't know yet.

Also the "crash" in the garage might have been him turning in too quickly and clipping the pump, or may have hit it with his door when opening it. I know loads of people who do that.

Not overly arsed about "what might have been!", He didn't hurt the cyclist and the garage never blew up so all this outrage is a little over the top.

If he hadn't been slightly over the limit then I imagine the press wouldn't have been that arsed about the story.

Yes, he's a dick for driving in the morning, but how many of us know what our alcohol level is when we first get up after a few the night before?

The limit is just less than 2 pints, so he was just over that. hardly pissed was he?

Colin Malone
90 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:48:00
One of many millions who gets done for drinks driving, idiots. If Gibbo's job is driving the team bus, then sack him; if not, get off his back. I know for sure how shitty he must feel, the morning after.
Kieran Kinsella
91 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:48:30
Wow! Throw the first stone huh? We are just hitting bits of this from the press so maybe we should let justice take its course before we judge.

Will he be charged with DUI? Or as some seem to think he is out ploughing pedestrians, I guess he will be charged with attempted vehicular homicide.

Maybe he turned to drink cause he's a young man unable to work for the best part, depressed, anxious about his long term future if injuries persist. Maybe those fears are reinforced when he reads ToffeeWeb and people talk of sending him to the glue factory.

Liam Reilly
92 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:54:11
What it must be to wake up in the morning and have no sins like 99% of posters on this thread.

Quite simply - none of you have any idea what happened; how much alcohol he had in his system (it was early - he may have had a few the night before and still been over the limit), or if indeed he did hit a cyclist or a petrol pump.

He's been bailed to appear before the court; at least wait until the facts are released before nailing him to the cross.

Thomas Surgenor
93 Posted 19/08/2015 at 12:54:34
Always amazes me that with the amount of money these guys are on that they don't pay for a taxi or a driver after a few drinks.

As good as he is when fit, I think I have to agree with the majority and its time to cut our losses. We have more than enough cover in his position.

Perhaps a loan? or a free transfer? But we cannot sack him over this or we will look silly and set a dangerous precedent.

Eugene Ruane
94 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:05:05
Nicky Styles (78) - As I suggested earlier, thinking an argument through doesn't appear to be a strong point with you.

To desperately attempt to justify your 'aww leave him alone, he never killed nobody' position, you ask me..

'Eugene Raune, were you this hysterical post Steven Pienaar's domestic abuse charge??'

Whatever that means (and despite getting my name wrong) tou-fucking-ché!!! (your two question marks and I'll raise you an exclamation mark).

You continue (to dig a fucking big hole for yourself) - "Further, vise-vie your remark: ''I'll make a guess that had it been a relative of his on the bike, he'd now be demanding a mob with flaming torches march on Finch Farm'' All we know at this point is that no one was hurt. There are no details as to the speed he was travelling. We do know, however that the cyclist wasn't injured and that Gibbo did not go up in flames'

Let me spell this out (in basic poltroon).

The only reason no one was hurt and that Gibbo didn't go up in flames was...luck (spawn, jamminess, fluke etc).

And without knowing you at all, I'll state this as a fact - if your mother or father or brother or sister or child was hit by a drunk driver, your response wouldn't be 'well I don't know what all the fuss is, he didn't kill them' ('and I just want to see the driver back at work').

A beyond ludicrous stance (I'm guessing by 'vise-vie' you meant viz-a-viz?)

Mark Riding
95 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:09:57
I think the club should hire a fleet of drivers, so our lads can get right on it in the afternoons. Get the successful 80's vibe going around Goodison.
Eugene Ruane
96 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:12:47
By the way, I absolutely agree with 'he hasn't been found guilty of anything yet' but am happy to debate anyone looking to excuse and/or justify drinking and driving.

Thousands of people have lost family members to this stupid act.

Drinking and driving is simply inexcusable.

Re Gibson, I hope there is some genuine excuse/reason for why he hit someone on a bike and hit a petrol pump and was arrested and charged.

I too think he's an asset and have defended him (as a player) on TW in the past.

Oliver Molloy
97 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:20:31
Liam Reilly @ 84....
I agree, everyone is NOT GUILTY until proven to be so, and for now none of us know what really happened.
However, what it must be like to wake up in the morning knowing you have 20,30,40 grand or whatever going into your bank account while sitting on your arse must be fairly good feeling!
Mark Riding
98 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:22:33
Oliver, the report says he is on FIFTY GRAND a week. That's actually the most surprising part of this story for me.
Oliver Molloy
99 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:26:14
Yeah Mark, I was being conservative,I'm sure he is probably on close to that alright.
Duncan McDine
101 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:33:15
Quite ironic if he's walked away from the crash with no injuries. We're talking about a fella that can sustain serious injuries by just looking at a football.
Stephen Brown
102 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:34:12
On 50k per week over the last two years he has earned over £5m. Effectively he's contributed nothing during that period! Add Pienaar and Hibbo to this and you can see where all the TV money goes.
Joe McMahon
103 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:34:30
Well, if he leaves I fail see see how it's a loss to Everton after just 1 goal and only a handful of appearances since January 2012.
Liam Reilly
104 Posted 19/08/2015 at 13:42:14
Whatever he's on (again no one on here is privy to that information) the club agreed to pay him when he transferred from United.

As he was a sick-note before the move I would suspect that good business sense would prevail and that the club would have some sort of insurance policy that pays out a substantial portion of his wages when injured.

Anyway, I'm hopeful that there are mitigating circumstances to this although I don't condone drink driving either.

Trevor Lynes
105 Posted 19/08/2015 at 14:18:41
How can any sane person condone a hit a run? Driving with a couple of drinks is bad enough but hit and run is unforgivable. Let the fans on here who are supporting Gibson put themselves or their family members in the position of the cyclist and then write their stupid support articles. If it was one of their family members they would be castigating him. There is absolutely no excuse for a man who for months has been getting paid for nothing being as criminally stupid as Gibson.

I cannot see any contractor in any other job being kept on in his position. He is showing no respect for the club or fans who pay his unearned salary.

Ingi Eyjolfz
106 Posted 19/08/2015 at 14:50:14
That's insane. The man cannot play 10 mins of football without getting injured but now he drives into a gas pump and walks away unharmed?
Phil Walling
107 Posted 19/08/2015 at 14:54:08
Mark @ 93. If that report is correct, don't you think it's good to know that our club is so flushed with funds it can afford such generosity ?
Mark Riding
108 Posted 19/08/2015 at 15:16:40
Phil, if fit, Gibbo is very good. In fact, I'd go as far to say his cameo at the end of last season helped us out of a bad run. However, does him being injured again surprise me ? Nope. Does the fact he still likes a lager surprise me ? Nope.
Therefore, his salary, if correct does surprise me. As for the club being flush, we are still looking after some players aren't we. Pienaar, Hibbo spring to mind. We've got rid of some dead wood this window in Distin and Alcaraz, a final sweep up wouldn't go amiss.
Gavin Johnson
109 Posted 19/08/2015 at 15:31:47
Good point there Mark. The 50k will be for his recently signed contract. I think the consensus amongst fans when he resigned was that it would only be for the benefit of the club if he was on reduced wages given he's done jack since he's been with us.
Andrew Presly
110 Posted 19/08/2015 at 15:38:10
That quality through ball to Mirallas was in the home leg vs Young Boys.

Let the courts take care of it & wish him well when his contract expires at end of the season regardless.

Mark Fitzgerald
111 Posted 19/08/2015 at 15:38:22
Shouldn't we just wait for all of the facts to come to light. We're still relying on varying media reports still lacking details.

If it turns out to be a very serious offence where a person's life was very much endangered by an individual heavily over the drink limit, then the punishment, both from the courts and the club, should be fitting.

If it turns out to be an ill judged decision from an individual still legally over the limit from the night before, with the incident with the cyclist being of a lesser variety, then the punishment again, both from the courts and the club, should be fitting.

That said, idiotic in either case.

Paul Smith
113 Posted 19/08/2015 at 15:59:05
Wow! Great thread. Discussing the differing opinions on what constitutes as a serious offence or not. Makes a change from whether our Bill is guilty of siphoning off money in "other operating costs gate".
Callum McNab
114 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:05:52
Wow! Truly Amazes me how many people can defend this prick because he is an Everton player. How many would be saying the same if he had a Red Shite shirt on, or god forbid a relative who was the person that got clipped on the bike?

The fact is that he was unsafe to get behind the wheel, and he has been extremely lucky that he hadn't killed someone or even himself.

I would've thought the very last thing a so-called top-flight Premier League footballer, who is very prone to injuries, would be downing large amounts of alcohol. Especially considering how our club has supported him.

Paul Kossoff
116 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:17:12
Andrew 105, Gibsons conned Everton out of £50 grand a week for little or no return, he has shamed the club, and you wish him well? Unbelievable.
Denis Richardson
117 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:35:11
Kieren 87,

We live in a different world to the players admittedly and you might say everything's relative, but if any player is seriously worried about his future whilst on a 4 year £10m contract, then he can do one and go work in a hospital or inner city school for a month!

We don't know the full facts and we'll wait to see what happens in Sept. However given he's in court barely 2 weeks after the offense I imagine the powers that be consider this to be serious.

For those saying it doesn't matter because their job is to kick a ball, I'll assume you're being sarcastic or are 5 years old. Given that millions of kids around the globe watch the game and run around wearing shirts with the players names on the back, then I would suggest it does matter!

Just because they are young and have loads of cash does not make it ok to break the law and endanger other people's lives. They are supposed to be role models and also represent the club. Personally I have zero tolerance for footballers who break the law and they should face the same punishment as anyone else, if guilty. Youth plus cash is a pathetic excuse given the amount of counselling the clubs provide. He's also not exactly a teenager.

Ian Jones
118 Posted 19/08/2015 at 17:51:28
It's been an interesting thread. Basically, there are few concrete details as to what actually happened or when. The Echo mentions 9:45 pm but some of the posters say it was in the morning. Perhaps it would be better to hold back judgement until the details come out.

However or whatever happened, there really is no excuse to get in a vehicle when over the limit and that relates to anyone. Simple.

Don Alexander
119 Posted 19/08/2015 at 19:10:56
Just seen the headline "Darron Gibson Fails To Stop!"

Stop???!!!.............and Darron Gibson???

Is it April Fools Day or what?

Keith Monaghan
121 Posted 19/08/2015 at 20:09:18
He SHOULD be sacked -- a total embarrassment to the club and bad example to everybody.

The point is he's put innocent people's lives at risk by his actions and cheated on his employers -- like any athlete, in his profession, it's well-known that alcohol reduces performance.

A shocking signing by our former manager -- his fitness record at OT was awful & they couldn't wait to get rid. We should never consider wasting our funds on players often not available to do what they're paid for.

Ian Hollingworth
122 Posted 19/08/2015 at 21:36:26
What a tit. Fergie mugged Moyes off again when he moved Gibbo the Crock on. I would not like to see how many minutes he has actually played for us compared to wages paid.

Criminal to give him a new contract and this incident just means the spotlight is on him and his lack of input to our cause is highlighted. I repeat, what a tit.

Richard Reeves
125 Posted 20/08/2015 at 11:16:06
How insulting and pathetic! Has this man no shame!?.....a Nissan Skyline GT-R Nismo... how old? Seriously though, there is no excuse to drive a car when over the limit and how could you live with yourself if you took someone else's life by being overly careful, driving to slowly and having slower reactions. There's no room for him in our squad anyway so just get rid; it would show what is expected of others.
Steve Ferns
128 Posted 20/08/2015 at 23:17:47
The Hypocrisy gets me, so I'll stay consistent and say, that if true, we should sack him. Perhaps drink driving on it's own is forgivable without other misdemeanours against him, but the hit and run is too far. I just hope the cyclist is ok.

As for the Ferguson comments, I agree with the majority. With the wages they get, and with their supposed love of the fans and the club, is it too much to ask to lay off the booze and the fags during the season. By all means blow up like big nev after you hang your boots up and become an alcy like Kendall supposedly is, we'll still love you, just don't piss your wages (our money) down the drain whilst your still playing for us, and particularly in the case of Gibbo and Ferguson, when you're always injured. and It is an irrefutable fact that alcohol affects injury recovery.

Dick Fearon
129 Posted 21/08/2015 at 11:27:27
I was criticised and verbally abused on these pages for daring to suggest that AvdM was a rat bag. The misplaced sympathy bestowed on that heap of shit was disgusting.

The only good thing to come out of this latest Gibson debacle is our supporter base is more cynical about such things.

Barry Jones
130 Posted 21/08/2015 at 18:26:39
Steve Ferns, I totally agree with you. I am more concerned about the fact that he is boozing in rehab rather than how far over the limit he may have been with the drink driving. The career of a pro footballer is relatively short and the competition for places in top teams becomes more fierce every year.

Surely he can see that he has an obligation to the fans, the club, his family and himself that he puts all the chances in his favour to commit to a successful career. If he is still pissed in the morning imagine how much he must have tucked away the previous night. An athlete? Worse still an athlete in rehab.

This is all about his mentality and his commitment. I do not need to compare him to Ferguson or anyone, this about the commitment of Darron Gibson to Everon FC and his football career. If he had an exemplary fitness record I may possibly be more lenient with him, but he doesn't. I find it unforgiveable.

Jim Potter
131 Posted 22/08/2015 at 22:57:35
If Stones wants the move ....... surely he wouldn't .... would he?

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