Martinez remains adamant on Stones

by | 13/08/2015  42 Comments  [Jump to last]
Roberto Martinez has again responded to the issue of speculation surrounding John Stones by insisting for a third time that the 21-year-old is not for sale.

Everton have rejected two offers from Chelsea for Stones and officially informed the Londoners that they are not interested in doing business over the defender this summer but press speculation continues to rumble on, with Manchester United the latest reported suitors.

Martinez was asked about Stones at his pre-match press conference ahead of the trip to Southampton and he again made his position clear.

"I've said before, the player is not for sale and that's the end of it," he said

"Our situation has been very clear from the beginning. We are not a selling club who will lose our best performers.

"He's a huge player for us, a very important player for us and we're looking forward to seeing how he develops with us in the next few seasons."  

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Jamie Crowley
1 Posted 13/08/2015 at 15:36:18
Time to move on. Nothing to see here. Well done Roberto and young John Stones.

What a player this kid is.

Colin Grierson
2 Posted 13/08/2015 at 15:39:58
Unequivocal rebuttal for a change! Well said Roberto. Should've made it that plain from the outset (as long as BK and the gang concur that is!).
Karl Jones
3 Posted 13/08/2015 at 15:46:45
After Baggy face yesterday, Merson's the latest Chelsea henchman. Telling Sky he'd be better off learning from the bench under John "morally clean" Terry than playing for Everton's first team. They'll be sending round someone to kidnap him next.
Ajay Gopal
4 Posted 13/08/2015 at 15:50:51
This is as clear as it gets - "Chelsea, fuck off!"

If Stones is still with us by the end of the transfer window, a huge round of applause for RM, BK and young Stones. There is still hope for the future!

Christopher Timmins
5 Posted 13/08/2015 at 15:54:53
Good to hear, but still looking for 3 to come in with 18 days to go!
Shane Corcoran
6 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:04:28
Colin #2, RM doesn't usually do unequivocal.

Can you imagine asking him what he'd like for breakfast?

Barry Morrison
7 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:19:31
I'm a bit confused by this. Some sources are quoting RM as saying 'he's not for sale', but others - including the Echo - have left this particular line out of their reports.

Has anyone actually seen/heard part of the interview where he said 'not for sale'?

James Morgan
8 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:30:55
My mate works at Carphone Warehouse in Widnes, says he served Alan Myers today. He told him despite what we say that Stones is off.
Anthony Jaras
9 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:33:51
Yes, Barry.

Around the six minute mark.

Brent Stephens
10 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:37:58
Is that the Alan Myers who is no longer Communications Director at EFC? My mate at Dixons says Myers knows sod all.
Barry Morrison
11 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:38:45
Thanks Anthony. Probably means nothing him saying it, but I'm glad to actually hear the words!
James Marshall
12 Posted 13/08/2015 at 16:58:28
It took him over 11 minutes to use the word 'phenomenal' which in itself is phenomenal.

If we sell Stones now, RM is going lose face so badly over this and Everton are going to look like even bigger mugs than they already are. Surely now, this has to be put to bed, but we all know the media will casually gloss over this comment and carry on regardless...

Tony Waring
13 Posted 13/08/2015 at 17:21:44
Karl (3). Was JT really described as "morally clean " ? I can scarcely believe it.
James Morgan
14 Posted 13/08/2015 at 17:52:45
Brent, you don't think he will sill have connections?
Tony Draper
15 Posted 13/08/2015 at 18:00:45
Let's go back to the opening days of the transfer window, Everton sent Chelsea a letter making it plain that whatever they had asked regarding John Stones he was and would remain at Everton FC.

Now here we are today and our manager is repeating the same message in different words. Absolute credit to John Stones and his agent for keeping silent on the matter.

The craploids and talkshite have created all manner of contorted mislogic almost every day to keep this "fairy story" running. What a complete contrast to the dreadful "toys on the nursery floor" tantrums witnessed/reported/created throughout the media circus to sell sterling for our neighbours (the worlds fastest fading giant).

James Marshall
16 Posted 13/08/2015 at 18:10:32
So now the rags are all saying that Martinez has stated Stones won't be sold to Chelsea - at least this is in every headline, then you read the actual quote where he states quite clearly the player is not for sale. Not that he won't sell to Chelsea.

Fucking press, they'll now try to whip up a frenzy for Man Utd to buy him over the next couple of weeks, no doubt, with the bait being Jonny Evans.

On that note, I think Evans would be a realistic shout for us given the fact he'll be mostly second-fiddle anyway, he's the right age, has PL experience, lives in the North West and is about the calibre (realistically) we can hope for in truth. I know we'd all like a 25yr old Franco Baresi but it's just not going to happen.

Steven Higgott
17 Posted 13/08/2015 at 18:12:45
Stones is not for sale, end of. We are not a selling club anymore. Unless the right price comes along that is and that goes to any player.

Hats off to everyone especially Stones if he stays, as this would show all clubs that all the so called bigger clubs can't just wave there cheque books in the air and buy all the best players.

Stones has the Everton fever like we all do and knows what's good for him, he has a bright future the future Everton and England captain.

Colin Glassar
18 Posted 13/08/2015 at 18:14:51
Like I said yesterday, let's put in a bid for Eva. I bet Roberto would treat her better than Mourinho.
Tony Draper
19 Posted 13/08/2015 at 18:22:04
Yes Colin, that would be better than a signing, her record is superb.

To be fair, Hannibal Lecter would treat her better than Jose Meanego !

On the subject of JM, surely it's not only Me that's been saying that he was a very very jolly soul when he first returned to CFC but from about early Feb last season he has become very churlish, petulant and it not only his team that has become highly defensive. Last time this happened he fucked off. (*fingers crossed*).

Karl Jones
20 Posted 13/08/2015 at 18:31:24
Eva's a good shout Colin. I bet she'd sort out the Hammy epidemic.
Brent Stephens
21 Posted 13/08/2015 at 19:29:38
James #14, sorry, James, it's just that we keep reading about somebody who knows somebody etc, so it's the cynic in me. As you say, he probably still has connections. Let's wait and see.
Jon Withey
22 Posted 13/08/2015 at 19:33:01
I hope this is all a smoke-screen whilst we get in our signings - it's getting real boring.
Raymond Fox
23 Posted 13/08/2015 at 20:00:05
Nice one James M, your last paragraph made me smile, spot on I'd say.

I think we need now to get behind the manager and the players because if we got divine intervention from above and Jesus became our manager I think he'd be hard pressed to get many points from the next 9 games.
They look a shocking set of fixtures.

Colin Glassar
24 Posted 13/08/2015 at 20:00:41
And she's fluent in Spanish so maybe she could be Roberto's interpreter? Joking aside, her record at chavdom is excellent and she'd be a great acquisition for s.
Harold Matthews
25 Posted 13/08/2015 at 20:08:15
Chelsea will still see this as Everton trying to get the price up, leaving them to decide where to draw a line on their offer. I'd like him to stay but my confidence is not high.
James Morgan
26 Posted 13/08/2015 at 20:14:13
Brent, I'm isually sceptical about people saying "my mate knows the girl at the chippy who served a guy that washed the car of Kenwrights cleaners cousin who said..etc".

But my mate wouldn't lie about it, whether Alan Myers was just being mischievous or misinformed is another thing.
Don Alexander
27 Posted 13/08/2015 at 20:26:39
Christ, if we got Eva there'd be a bleeding epidemic of hamstrings needing massage, starting in the Gladwys Street end! :)

Brian Williams
28 Posted 13/08/2015 at 22:20:37
FFS Harold how much clearer can it be. Martinez states he's NOT for sale. I think that actually means "he's not for sale."..... Jeez let's move on.
Colin Glassar
29 Posted 13/08/2015 at 22:34:28
Brian, I think some people are awaiting personal visits by Roberto to reassure them that the lad IS NOT FOR SALE !!! Even then they would probably say, "yeah, but no......"
Harold Matthews
30 Posted 14/08/2015 at 02:57:03
Sorry Brian / Colin. After a lifetime of buying and selling things that were definitely not for sale, I will wait till the window closes before I put my feet and relax.

Martinez spouted all this stuff in Singapore. We even had the mysterious letter. Chelsea still shoved in bids and orchestrated loaded interviews with Mourinho, Cahill and Terry. Terrible stuff but they believe there are no rules in the transfer business.

They believe "smaller other clubs" also work their own rules for their own benefit, especially if they own a promising young English talent. This is why, according to Slimey Jose, the top clubs have very few high level English youngsters. Their price is above what the money boys are prepared to pay for someone with so little experience.

It'll take more than the words of a coach to put a halt to this business and the media know it. This is serious stuff with two and a half weeks still to go.

Personally, I believe it highly unlikely that any club out there will meet our valuation of Stones and expect him to stay. We'll see.

Frank Carse
32 Posted 15/08/2015 at 01:52:21
I believe that the vast majority of Evertonians feel that the odds of John Stones moving to Chelsea before the transfer deadline are pretty high. I have a suggestion for the Everton board. Why don't we immediately accept Chelsea's offer of 㿊 + million on the understanding that we get him back 'on loan' for the 2015-16 season? Chelsea would be happy that Stones would be playing (and improving) regularly, as we hear that he would be unlikely to be in the starting line up in the Chelsea team.

This gives us money for 'new' players whilst retaining the services of the best centre half in the Premier League, plus gives us the opportunity to find a quality replacement before the season ends.

Brian Wilkinson
33 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:19:44
Frank@31, Chelsea will not put a third bid in, until we have played Man City on Sunday, after that expect a bid to come in Monday onwards. Jose will want Stones to play against City.

Even then, we should reject the bid.

Brian Wilkinson
34 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:22:49
Besides Frank why would Stones want to sign for a team outside the top four, may as well get that in while the goings good.
Anthony Flack
35 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:32:52
I am used to utter crap being spurted out by Talk Sport, but I was really disappointed at the unsubstantiated garbage Ian Wright came out with last night on 606...

Some passionate toffee came on and unfortunately blurted out that Kenwright was a liar, without any evidence or in fact and charge! This set the scene and allowed Wright to deduce we are a selling club and will sell Barkley, Stones, Lukaku and Mirallas, and then not get the money to reinvest.

Drove me to turn Radio 1 on.... That is bad....

John Hughes
36 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:36:01
How can John Stones learn when the best (ha! ha!) centre-half in the Premier League is sitting on the bench in Eva's seat, while he can play along side Jags who is in the England squad?
Andrew Ellams
38 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:40:37
The bloke should have asked Wright how many first team players had left Arsenal for better things in the last 10 years compared to Everton.
Nick Page
39 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:43:31
Ian Wright has more eyeballs than brain cells. I doubt anyone takes that half-wit seriously, Anthony. IMHO, that utter gobshite spoilt bastard, Mourinho will definitely be coming back with another bid and likely not at the supposed asking price either. I'm not sure Chelsea is the money pit it once was but he's definitely trying to force the issue it would appear.
Paul Jeronovich
40 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:51:52
Under the circumstances, we should not sell John Stones to Chelsea under any circumstances. We would be mad to sell before Euro 2016, Man City may then come calling and they are not shy to buy players at around £50M which is what we should get for Stones.

This underlines the ridiculous way in which we have to sell first to buy even with the increased TV money.

Nick Page
41 Posted 17/08/2015 at 15:59:17
"This underlines the ridiculous way in which we have to sell first to buy even with the increased TV money."

Hence the protests, where’s the money gone etc etc. And if we did get 㿊M, 20% goes straight to Barnsley, another load finds its way into some expense accounts with the rest giving us about 㾸M for one new signing, in a years time. The Bill Kenwright way.

Colin Metcalfe
44 Posted 17/08/2015 at 16:21:12
It would be interesting to know if RM, when taking the position, made absolutely clear to Kenwright that he and no-one else would have a say of who comes in and who goes, which should be the case for all clubs. The manager should be given a budget and be allowed to get on with it.

If the club forces Martinez's hand and sells Stones, I can only imagine there will be an almighty uproar from the fans when you consider the current climate; it will be like Heathrow over Goodison Park!!!

I stated in an earlier post, in my humble opinion, it's a bit too soon for Stones; he is still learning his trade and he only broke into the first team a year ago .

After watching Chelsea yesterday, I have no doubt they will come in with a £30M+ final offer but I think it will be rejected and, as someone posted, if we are in a position that have to sell to buy, then so be it; we keep Stones and go with the squad we have!

Chris Gould
46 Posted 17/08/2015 at 16:48:50
Stones is staying. No doubt in my mind. The media can say what they want. He won't be sold.

RM has made it clear from the start that we aren't selling him. He chats a lot of shit, but I believe him on this. He has a vision and he's stubborn. Stones isn't for sale and RM won't change his mind. I believe that BK has bought into RM's vision, I don't think he will undermine him on this.

We could have sold McCarthy for £20 million, and we have players that can fill his position. We didn't because we don't need to, and want to keep our best players. No way will we sell Stones and be left with one senior centre-back.
3 players will come in. Nobody will leave unless RM no longer wants them.

Maybe the TV money hasn't given us a huge warchest, but it's allowed us to offer better contracts to existing players that we wish to keep. It also means that we don't need to sell.

John Otway
47 Posted 17/08/2015 at 17:30:01
Chris. Imagine the warchest we'd have if we had a marketing and commercial department that knew its arse from its elbow!!

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