Nonsense story links McCarthy with United

For once I agree with Roy Keane!

Hahaha. I always liked Roy Keane :-)

If Side-show Bob is worth 50... Cash in. Lol. Dream on Utd. Keano has it spot on. He and Barkley should be kept at Everton at any cost.

Once again another good young player linked to a move. Yawn... so boring.

I just wish that everyone on all the Everton related websites would get it into their heads that we will always be targeted for our diamond gems of home spun or aquired good players as long as that penniless desperado of a chairman remains at the helm of this club.

For instance there is a link on Grand old Team forum to Sky Sports News site were Martinez stated recently that the McCarthy deal would not have come off without the Fellaini money coming in.Which makes Kenwright a liar for stating we didn't need to sell Fellaini to buy McCarthy.

And as for the Abu Dabi shite... (latest is the deal was called off over non-CL qualification according to Alan Brazil) FFS.

Notice the story broke at the start of the season ticket options and ended when they closed.

Strange that Sky backed it and then removed it. Anyone got a link to Roy's quote? He's obviously enjoying the laid back role as Assistant Manager and ITV pundit. He's letting his hair down as much as he ever will.

It looks like Keane's quote got lost a bit in translation between social media Chinese whispers. I've added his actual quote above which is less tasty but more accurate!

Roy Keane must have found time outside of his anger management and bitterness counselling sessions to become a pundit. Or is it just that he is skipping sessions?

Maybe somebody can enlighten us as to how, if his own managerial escapades were to ever be the subject of a documentary, it would be the footballing equivalent of Bruster's Millions.

I can't see James pushing for a move right now. He is establishing himself in a very good team and is playing for a manager who has shown huge faith in him. Would he take the risk of doing a Fellaini? Just look at how the United faithful treat a talented youngster like Cleverly after a few poor performances. Also I think Van Gaal will be looking at more high profile acquisitions like Strootman.

Typical bone idle lazy big media darling club journalism.

Why the hell would Roberto Martinez sell arguably our best performer last season and a guy who he was so desperate to sign last summer??

More to the point, why the hell would James McCarthy want to take a step down to a club not even in Europe?

Everton at the moment is everything that Manchester Utd is not... Stable, well managed and in Europe with promising young players to take the club forward.

United don't have stability and are a football club in my opinion on its way down, that may not last but certainly the Alex Ferguson dynasty and the days of the Class of 92 are long gone.

Dream on about McCarthy.

Shows the arrogance of the press and the Man Utd supporters...

You will not be getting one of our young players. We don't need to sell... and why would he want to go to Old Trafford? He's at a great club already.

I can't see Van Gaal even knowing who McCarthy is...

Over here in The States, I didn't get to see what kind of a deal Martinez signed when he took the job. Does he have absolute last say on which players we buy and sell? I imagine the buying has to be within the budget the, board allows him but more important to me/us is: Can the board sell players out from under him?

Mike,

We no longer have to sell to buy, at least that's what Martinez has expressed regularly since the turn of the year.

I would read absolutely nothing into the lazy "McCarthy to Man Utd" link, Martinez rates him far too much to allow him to walk away after less than a year.

McCarthy himself doesn't seem the type of lad to rock the boat much like Baines last summer. McCarthy also probably feels he can keep improving here under a manager who loves him to bits and trusts him.

As I say, Manchester United is no longer the massive pull it was under Ferguson a decade ago when they had massive names such as Ronaldo, Beckham, Scholes, Keane, etc etc.

Players only need to look at Marouane Fellaini, a guy who was so desperate to leave last year, he drove to United's training ground... bet when he sits down and has a bit of time to be alone with his thoughts, he could actually be honest and say he hasn't enjoyed playing his football in a United shirt quite like he did in our colours where the Evertonians worshipped him.

To any players thinking of leaving, the grass isn't always greener.

I think it's also important to keep McCarthy's partner... I believe Barry rates a share of the credit for Macca's development.

Manchester City have now confirmed Barry's release. We need him back.

Jim Bennings

Although I agree with you that this is just 'lazy journalism' regarding McCarthy... but I don't think Man Utd are as much in decline as you are making out. Only a year ago, they were Premier League champions. Moyes was out of his depth and failed to sign quality players needed.

In Luis Van Gaal they have a manager who has won everything at the highest level... he will have an open cheque book with £100s of millions at his disposal to strengthen the squad. Don't be surprised if Man Utd are challenging for the PL title next season. Like RS last season, they only have a domestic campaign to fully concentrate on.

The language in this article, though typical, really amuses me. Apparently, Man Utd are 'prepared' to offer Cleverley in return for McCarthy, implying we should be grateful for the generosity of our betters for the fact!

Make no mistake: the journalistic community as a group want only the best for their beloved Man Utd and, having seen Moyes off, will spend the rest of the summer campaigning for what they see as the better players around to follow their destiny, realise their 'dream' and head for Old Trafford.

If the likes of Barkley make an impact in Brazil, you know what will follow... I well remember the campaign that followed Rooney's 'arrival' at the Euros in Portugal.

We all need to get used to the pet name 'King Louis' from now on. We will see a great deal of that name in the paper and on Sky. What is he king of by the way? Until the media decide to turn against him, it is now back to the old agenda, irrespective of where they stand in the table... biggest club in the world, blah blah blah...

McCarthy is loving his time at Everton and has openly said so. He was very high on Roberto's wanted list last close season.

Man Utd is a broken machine; their fans will be over critical for years to come because they are "overspoiled" with success for more than a generation. Moyes, Van Gaal... and whoever is next –the pressure won't just go away.

Van Gaal can bring in a bunch of new players because the chequebook will allow, that doesn't mean they will gel They are losing "The Class of '92" from the pitch and the backroom.

Should McCarthy continue his development (and Roberto is the man to ensure that he will) then he and other Everton first team stalwarts will have numerous admirers. By then, who knows? – we may already be successful in real terms.

Mark

I see where you're coming from but for me even though United were Champions only a year ago, Ferguson was very clever in knowing he was leaving a club where it's best years (at least for the foreseeable future) are behind it.

They were not a great team when they won that title, they were helped along by Manchester City's Mancini sideshow derailing their hopes.

United will still fight for the top 4 next season but it's of my opportunity that they will miss out again.

They need to replace not just great, but iconic figures, it's impossible to replace the likes of Scholes, Giggs, even reliable set in stone performers like Vidic and Ferdinand who have been the mainstay of their defence.

Have they ever been as good since Ronaldo left?. Or Tevez even?

Van Persie is 31 and had been ridden with injuries, Rooney has lost the same sharpness and hunger that he once had in sackloads as a teenager at Everton or in his first 6 years at Old Trafford.
I look at Rooney now and see a tired, often sluggish looking player.

The rest at United are fair players without being world beaters, Mata is quality I grant that but Smalling?? Evans??.Butter??.Rafael??..Carrick??.Fletcher???..Phil Jones???

I just think you may see United go the same way Liverpool went in the early 90's after years of success, suddenly various managerial changes and iconic players leaving or getting older all of a sudden results in the end of an era of domination.

United will still be about the top 5 maybe even 4 within the next few years, I just don't think the attraction is what it once was, plus there is a big question of what happens if the results don't go the way the board and fans want after Van Gaal's early months??

Will they sack him too?

That's meant to say opinion not opportunity...bloody thing has a mind of its own

Tony 642, I can guarantee you that van gaal will have more success with Man U than Moyes. He is simply a far better manager and more importantly will command respect from the Man U players due to his vast experience and the numerous trophies he's won along the way.

Moyes' tenure was always doomed to fail as the senior players simply had little to no respect for him (his biggest mistake was getting rid of the entire back room staff). Unfortunately for us, this will mean a much better Man U to contend with re the league next season and as has been pointed out, they will be able to concentrate fully on the league.

Van Gaal has no European sideshow, a bucketful of cash and three transfer windows to put his team together. Be very afraid...

Spurs had a bucket full of cash last year but found its not actually money that scores you goals but players and Spurs also found out that replacing their own iconic star in Gareth Bale proved impossible.

No matter how much United have got to spend they cannot replace the iconic characters they have had over the last 10-20 year's..

Lets face it, they are not going to sign Lionel Messi or Ronaldo, they are not going to sign Franck Ribery or Yaya Toure or Luis Suarez.

They may get some decent players who have probably past their best years such as Fabregas (a player never lived up to the hype in my eye's even when younger)
They may get Toni Kroos who is a good player to be fair but not quite that great from whenever I have seen him, and why would he join a club that will not be playing Champions League football from at least another year maybe more?

The point is, they have got the big pot of money but they are not going to coax the greatest players from England and Europe to Manchester..

Footballing sacrilege re. Fabregas in my opinion. He is a genius, and suffers at Barcelona because he is played out of position too often. That said, he has still managed 13 goals and 16 assists this season...
Kroos is also class, but will not go there. It would be an illogical step down.

This story is garbage.

Jim #752 I think you are vastly underestimating United - they had less than one bad season and they bit the bullet and changed things around and they will whether we like it or not be back among the title challengers next season.

United will be yet another obstacle in Everton's way for the CL places I'm afraid - despite their relative decline they are still a club who can attract big players and whilst some may say they have been ruthless and lacked dignity that unfortunately is what 'winners' have to do and have always done - remember Johnny Carey and John Moores.

United are done. The fear factor has gone. Teams will still fancy their chances against them, it's an opportunity to knock them further off their perch.

I want Rooney to sign for Jose to see what he can do.

Regarding Manchester United's fortunes next season, what Jim Benning said.

Ferguson is gone. It's all Glazer all the time from now on. Good luck to Van Gaal with that. He's gonna need it.

Patrick

Not underestimating Man Utd, just being realistic. I think they have paid over the odds for too many average English players that aren't really that great at all, the likes of Phil Jones (a glorified younger Phil Neville) and Chris Smalling (a player who thinks he is better than he really is). They have some fantastic players but they have an awful lot of journeymen who are not good enough or just past it.

As for Fabregas... he is a good player, just not as good as everyone expected. I always watched Fabregas at Arsenal and, apart from his last few seasons, he was regularly out-performed by our very own little Spaniard of the time, Mikel Arteta.

Arteta just never got the headlines because he didn't play for a media darling club based in London.

As someone pointed out earlier (sorry, normally reference it but in a rush) – last season we were told McCarthy coming in was not conditional on Fellaini moving out. I knew it was shit – if so, why not sign McCarthy earlier when we needed him (and Fellaini looked out of it those first three games).

Kenwright has only one interest at heart – his own. It's human nature. We've operated under negative transfer spend since Martinez has arrived; Moyes had a low net positive spend throughout his tenure. If he uses cash surplus to pay down debt, he'll get a better price on the market.

His (and his cronies') ownership has cost us so much in lost opportunities. How many times have we thought,"This is it, if we push on"? January comes and goes, and we can't sustain it. Every year he feeds fans a banquet of bullshit and most of them lap it up. Trouble is, with his managers over-achieving relative to transfer spend (notwithstanding a high wage bill), it's hard to protest. Semantics I know, but we'll never know where we could've got to if we'd had owners who invested for the long-term good of the club, rather than carpet-bagging for their own long-term good.

Steven 569, the delightful idea of Keane taking "bitterness counselling" is too good to let lie, shall we send him a check? He could start a self help along the lines of AA. We could get Moyes involved, would make great Endemol type TV.